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What it looks like this morning

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The Weather forecast by Met office

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Bowl England out for 50, score 150 in 10 overs, then bowl England out for 20, job done!
 
Looks like we will get a fair bit of play today.

Chance for a few mini-battles to be fought and mind games to be played.
 
I wish Pakistan is able to bowl England out for a cheap score.

And then they should bat like in T20s, give England a target around 200.

Try to bowl them out :))
 
Deewana Mastana said:
Not really.


This is why it was so important for Pakistan to have won that first test.
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Still can’t believe how we choked the first Test.

Would’ve meant a lot for us considering England will most probably win the series because of rain...
 
It will be a frustrating day for Pakistan as England will bat without any pressure of losing the match, as there is not enough time for Pak and England to bat again. England batting line up is too good and long to get folded in one session. It will probably rain a lot anyway.
 
If Pakistan has won the 1st test, the umpires would of moved heaven and earth to get the ground prepared, let’s not think for one minute this is not the case!
 
Mir jibran said:
Living in illusions as always :yk2
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“All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to pursue them.” – Walt Disney.


It all depends on Pakistani team. If they come with a winning mentality they will start winning more matches.
 
Mueez said:
I wish Pakistan is able to bowl England out for a cheap score.

And then they should bat like in T20s, give England a target around 200.

Try to bowl them out :))
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They should do it- even if it means we bowl to them for 35 overs at the end of the day.

Especially if the first innings lead is 100.
 
Heavy overnight rain has left the outfield soggy - Further inspection scheduled for 11am
 
If we dismiss england cheaply- we should definately play attacking cricket looking to get them back in.

Lets be brave and play with them a bit.
 
They haven't learned the lessons, i mean the groundsmen, why not shake hands already and get done with it. Absolute incompetence.
 
Therre is no time for anything,and as I said England batting line up too good to fold easily against our inexperienced pacers. Yasir would not be effective here.
 
Wet outfield apparently.

“Boggy” is the word being thrown about. Rob key says there might not be any play before lunch
 
PakPremi said:
Therre is no time for anything,and as I said England batting line up too good to fold easily against our inexperienced pacers. Yasir would not be effective here.
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Everybody agrees there is no time. That is not to say you have no intent of doing anything.

Set yourself a target to at least put England under pressure.

If we are going to get 85 overs today. We should be looking to split it 35-20-30.

Look to dismiss England in the next 35, bat for 20 very quickly and then put England back in for 30 overs. Show some ambition and let England know we are there for the next game, and the rain has saved THEM.

Even if we can only put them in for the last 20 overs of the day- I would still do it.
 
Abdullah said:
Everybody agrees there is no time. That is not to say you have no intent of doing anything.

Set yourself a target to at least put England under pressure.

If we are going to get 85 overs today. We should be looking to split it 35-20-30.

Look to dismiss England in the next 35, bat for 20 very quickly and then put England back in for 30 overs. Show some ambition and let England know we are there for the next game, and the rain has saved THEM.

Even if we can only put them in for the last 20 overs of the day- I would still do it.
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Getting Eng within 65 overs TWICE. Sounds good. What could go wrong
 
NASSER wants Test matches to start earlier when bad light causes issues...

"Why don’t we start at 10.30am in the morning when it was perfect sunshine? Why don’t we make up time? At the end of the day when it’s getting darker we make up time but at the beginning of the day when it’s getting lighter we don’t make up half an hour. Where is the sense in that? Try and use every window of opportunity to keep this game one."

NASSER continues...

"Imagine taking a kid to a Test match. They have looked forward to it all week. It gets a bit dark, they turn the lights on and 10 minutes later they are walking off. The kid turns to you and says 'why are they going off?' and you say ‘the light’s not good enough?’ Explain that. You have to try and stay on wherever possible."
 
Said so even before that there would not be any play.

Even the next test is going to have a similar fate.
 
It has stopped raining, and the main covers are off again. However, the problem remains the wet outfield, which that short shower didn't help, and a further inspection is taking place at 12:55pm.
 
After T20's with England what's next assignment for Pakistan Cricket Team?
 
Why don’t they call off this Test and play a T20 in the afternoon? There is absolutely no reason to go through the academic process for the sake of it. If not T20, then better allow players a day off.
 
Doesn't look like rain is an issue, still just that wet outfield:

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Just bcoz its England they get away with it. Why cant they cover the entire ground like they do in Sub continent or even in Aust? So when rain stops...they can start the game. This wet outfield issue was there in last world cup as well.
 
Rajdeep said:
Just bcoz its England they get away with it. Why cant they cover the entire ground like they do in Sub continent or even in Aust? So when rain stops...they can start the game. This wet outfield issue was there in last world cup as well.
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I'll repeat again, fully covering the pitch is banned in England. You end up with a load of standing water above the covers in addition to a load of water below the covers due to the sweating effect it causes therefore provides little help and can even damage the pitch.
 
Rajdeep said:
Just bcoz its England they get away with it. Why cant they cover the entire ground like they do in Sub continent or even in Aust? So when rain stops...they can start the game. This wet outfield issue was there in last world cup as well.
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This w looked at in the past.
Older followers will remember the Brumbrella — it fell out of fashion as it caused problems to the playing surface.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brumbrella

The weather in England means whole ground coverings don’t work well and have now been legislated against.

Roof coverings (like at Wimbledon centre court) would, but are prohibitively expensive — apparently 100 million pounds to cover Lords for example
 
HitWicket said:
I'll repeat again, fully covering the pitch is banned in England. You end up with a load of standing water above the covers in addition to a load of water below the covers due to the sweating effect it causes therefore provides little help and can even damage the pitch.
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Then how it works in subcontinent?
 
Rajdeep said:
Then how it works in subcontinent?
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There's naturally far less moisture in the ground therefore that moisture can't be drawn to the surface as a result of the covers. It also tends to be warmer so any standing water dries faster.
 
MMHS said:
Why don’t they call off this Test and play a T20 in the afternoon? There is absolutely no reason to go through the academic process for the sake of it. If not T20, then better allow players a day off.
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I like the idea.

But I am sure they can't arrange a T20 that quickly.
 
The only way we could get a result game now is for both captains to agree that England will declare now, then Pakistan will declare their 2nd innings on 0/0, and then finally England will have a run chase this afternoon for the 230ish. That would be really exciting!! And it’s been done before. But even nice Joe Root (with his current 1-0 lead in the series) isn’t that sporting surely!
 
What a awful place to play cricket. So much rain

England needs to have ground roof other places are fine
 
I hope they take the tea right now.

Otherwise, they will play 40 minutes and leave for tea. Then, come back, play for 5 minutes and go off again for bad light.

I've been so frustrated with all these.

When it doesn't rain, the outfield is wet. When the outfield isn't wet, it's tea time. When it's not tea time, it's bad light.
 
Tea to be taken 1500-1520

56 overs to be bowled.

Last hour is 1800 or 41 overs which ever is later.
 
Southampton is a nightmare in terms of rain. Manchester is much much better.
 
We can only hope weather for next test is better otherwise it will turn out to be a disappointing series for all the cricket fans. Both teams played pretty good cricket in the first test and this match had everything to be a solid contest as well but unfortunately spoiled by weather.
 
I hope ECB changes the venue for next Test.

We, fans, desperately want to watch some cricket!
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I like the idea.

But I am sure they can't arrange a T20 that quickly.
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Normally not, because squads are different; but now a larger squad is kept together- not ideal, but better than the joke going to happen there shortly. Also,!the birth of ODI was from a similar situation- after five days of little play & washout on scheduled sixth day (6 day Test), they decided to play a 40, 8 balls over game with five bowlers to be used .... it all started there, like Test cricket at MCG as well
 
Match about to start i would have never started with abbas or afridi..there is no use just start with shan masood
 
Give Shan Masood and Fawad Alam a long bowl.

No chance of a result in 35 overs (plus 6 for innings changes) so rest the pace bowlers.
 
Good thing from England’s perspective is that they get chance to judge Sibley and Crawey one more time
 
Junaids said:
Give Shan Masood and Fawad Alam a long bowl.

No chance of a result in 35 overs (plus 6 for innings changes) so rest the pace bowlers.
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Lol they’ve been rested enough. Workload clearly isn’t an issue at this point. If anything, rustiness might be so best to give them a bowl.
 
Lol this is the type of ball which I bowl when I’m trying to bowl... (I’m a batsman) :)))
 
Just feels like this test has been such a farce with the umpires taking so much time out of the game and just now giving England practice and our guys some phainta.
 
Deewana Mastana said:
Just feels like this test has been such a farce with the umpires taking so much time out of the game and just now giving England practice and our guys some phainta.
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If you also take the Windies series into consideration as well the umpires have been quite biased.

Shows how important neutral umpires are.
 
Shaky over from Abbas. Looks unsure how to handle a tall batsman batting way outside his crease.
 
Mueez said:
If you also take the Windies series into consideration as well the umpires have been quite biased.

Shows how important neutral umpires are.
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The umpires knew that Pakistan would be a more challenging outfit and if they didn't abandon play they could have cost the game.
 
Deewana Mastana said:
The umpires knew that Pakistan would be a more challenging outfit and if they didn't abandon play they could have cost the game.
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I agree. That’s why it was a bad decision by Pakistan to bat first in these kind of conditions.
 
This type of rust from the bowlers should be expected after bowling 5 overs the previous 4 days and sitting on their butt the rest of the time waiting for rain or bad light to subside.
 
If Abbas is going to continue to bowl at least bring Rizwan up. Sun is out, good visibility, ball not doing as much in the air.
 
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