Ramiz is outspoken and really wants to revive PCB and Pakistan cricket. He understands cordial relations with the BCCI is important to achieve his goals. Recent news about Jay Shah / BCCI inviting him to watch IPL finals and agreeing with Pakistan to host Asia cup bodes well. Will this new found bonhomie between BCCI and PCB help Pakistani players included in the upcoming IPL mega auction? Two new IPL teams will be announced next week and more foreign players will be auctioned. It is imperative Ramiz broaches this subject with the BCCI as soon as possible.
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I don't think so. These things might be above Ramiz and Jay Shah's pay-grade.
Even if BCCI wants to revive relations with Pakistan out of the goodness of its heart, it won't be able to to because of the climate the Indian government has created in India in-relation to Pakistan. We've seen it all happen before with MoU farce.
Likewise, Pakistan also gets political mileage out of bad-mouthing India. It goes both ways, to a certain extent. But at present I see the Indian government as the prime instigator of adopting an adversarial stance towards Pakistan because such a stance helps the ruling party politically. And I just don't see that changing anytime soon.
Even if BCCI wants to revive relations with Pakistan out of the goodness of its heart, it won't be able to to because of the climate the Indian government has created in India in-relation to Pakistan. We've seen it all happen before with MoU farce.
Likewise, Pakistan also gets political mileage out of bad-mouthing India. It goes both ways, to a certain extent. But at present I see the Indian government as the prime instigator of adopting an adversarial stance towards Pakistan because such a stance helps the ruling party politically. And I just don't see that changing anytime soon.
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Nah, this is not a BCCI - PCB issue. India - Pakistan issue.
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And exactly why should Ramiz do that ?
What the hell has Ganguly been doing in the last few years to improve these relationship?
More people with international diplomacy experience have been in this position and failed to improve anything solely because of Indian political influences and negative mindset.
Personally India is not safe for Pakistani cricketers physical and mental safety. Playing IPL is not appealing to Pakistanis, that ship has sailed a long time ago.
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Ramiz is IK appointee and Jay Shah is Amit Shah's son. May be the ones above their pay grades are sending these guys to do their talking. Who knows ? But I would presume that 2023 is far far away to contemplate these things. Bajwa and IK were criticised thoroughly when some love letters were getting exchanged with Modi.
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To be honest my guess is india wants 3 4 pak players in ipl
Because they are expanding to 10 teams
And may be in future they would love to have pak players and may expand league to 12 teams
Because right now the only team that critize the ipl is pakistan because of taking 3 months in a calender year. And BCCI knows if we buy some pakistani players, that will keep pakistan mouth shut.
I dont know about others but thats my guess.
And in return india may tour pakistan in future as i was checking the news where lots of channels are saying India will be first big team that will tour pakistan.
Because they are expanding to 10 teams
And may be in future they would love to have pak players and may expand league to 12 teams
Because right now the only team that critize the ipl is pakistan because of taking 3 months in a calender year. And BCCI knows if we buy some pakistani players, that will keep pakistan mouth shut.
I dont know about others but thats my guess.
And in return india may tour pakistan in future as i was checking the news where lots of channels are saying India will be first big team that will tour pakistan.
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We are a long way off from all this happening but at least some positive news
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True. But I'm going to temper my expectations and believe it when I actually see it.
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J Shah is son of Amit Shah who happend to be the real boss in BJP since Gujarat Victory.
He is the master mind behind all the victories and unassailable lead in Indian elections
So basically it's not above J Shah-s payscale
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IPL's expansion of two teams probably doesn't mean that they are looking to get Pakistani players into the mix.
I would say that PSL is the only league right now that is behind the IPL, and in a few years of improvement, it could be a close competitor in the market for T20 leagues.
Having the PSL at home will increase the revenue for the league and we know what happens once a solid revenue stream is established.
It would be great if Ramiz Raja can improve relationships with the BCCI. I know that he is a well-respected individual in India, and it was a good gesture by Sourav Ganguly to invite Ramiz Raja to watch the IPL final.
Should Ramiz have not been so busy, it would have been great for both to meet.
Ramiz Raja needs to be very level-headed because staying on good terms with the BCCI is something that is going to help in the future.
It would be great to see Pakistani players in the IPL.
I can understand not playing bilateral against Pakistan given the political scheme of things, but player participation in the IPL doesn't really harm anyone unless the players start making foolish statements.
Anyways, I'd like to see how this develops.
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Even if the Pakistani players are allowed in next edition of IPL, will the franchises take the risk of enrolling them?
Has happened before
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Any ideas what reasons Ramiz gave for refusing the invite to attend the IPL final? Does anybody on here think he should have attended or would he have been told from higher up not to attend.
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No, I think he was in an ACC Council Meeting and was invited on very short notice.
He is a chairman so he is probably busy in meetings, especially since he's new to the role.
Had this invitation been extended earlier, I would say he should have gone. But from what I've heard, Jay Shah conveyed the invitation to him during the ACC meeting.
I hope he thanked the BCCI for their invitation on short notice.
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I think some franchises will definitely look at the possibility of grabbing a few Pakistani players.
The risk-reward ratio comes into play. I don't think they'd risk retaining Pakistani players early on, but they'd be more than happy to buy a few especially since finding replacements is not that difficult once the tournament begins.
If tomorrow, let's say, Pakistani players are invited to play in the IPL, I can quite easily see the following players contending:
Babar Azam, Mohammad Rizwan, Shaheen Shah Afridi, Hasan Ali, Wahab Riaz, and maybe Imad Wasim.
Personally speaking, I don't think franchises will have much to lose. We've seen them dish out crores on players who've hardly contributed.
I can definitely see a few Pakistani players fitting into the plans of IPL teams. Left-arm pace will always be desirable.
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Harris Rauf and Shahnawaz Dahani also. Possibly Mohammad Wasim JR
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No way, every pakistani player would give their left boll to play the IPL. The financial rewards are too great. Ask Root
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No, franchisees won't buy players they've never heard of or players who don't have an international reputation.
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But then they are buying all of these mediocre players from big bash?
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Tbh
Franchisee have spent crores on many players like Pujara, Sam Billings, unadkat etc who never took the field, so why not take take the risk?.
Logically it makes sense to pick up top Pakistani players as they will bring more eyeballs to the sponsors and also they will perform better than Big bash players.
My only point of risk was not money but blocking of a potential slot that is if visa issues or inter board squabbles
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In a 10 team IPL, Harris Rauf will get picked and I would suspect that he will do well. Rauf is one of the leading wicket takers in T20 cricket in the past couple of years. He would do very well under Kohli as captain but I guess Kohli is moving on now...
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No way, every pakistani player would give their left boll to play the IPL. The financial rewards are too great. Ask Root
Joe Root was most likely told by a franchise that they are definitely going to bid for him, otherwise he wouldn’t do this randomly after all these years
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It maybe about their availability and not ability
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In absence of other options.
There are certainly some Pakistani players worth the risk, but some who aren't.
A player like Hasan Ali, who has always issued political statements against India, is something franchisees won't tolerate.
On the other hand, a soft-spoken, respectful bowler like Shaheen Shah Afridi is something franchisees will look forward to.
You also have to consider things from a political aspect, such as the player's reputation in India.
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Hypothetically assume that Pakistani players are invited to register for the IPL Auction.
I'm curious to know who you think would get some attention from franchises.
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Afridi will get a gig for sure.
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Babar
Shaheen
Shoaib Malik(CSK dad army)
Rizwan
Hafeez
These 5 surely. Rest if their is some unknown player but may be has some X Factor like a round arm action or something different the IPL scouts will pick them.
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Babar
Fakhar
Shaheen
Hasan Ali
Imad Wasim
Rizwan (outside chance)
The rest of the lot stand zero chance. The only reason those subpar Aussie BBL bullies get constantly picked is the lobbying done by Aussie coaches / mentors , who're present in almost every team. Pak players don't enjoy that luxury.
Anyways it's a moot point as there's more likelihood of me getting hit by lightning twice than BCCI given permission to allow Pak players into the IPL.
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Shaheen Afridi,
Babar,
Rizwan.
Shaheen being left arm fast bowler can start a bidding war during auction.
Babar had been criticised earlier for not scoring fast but he has improved a lot recently. Imagine him securing one end while someone like KL Rahul going full throttle from other end.
For Rizwan, I've seen Pak fans complaining about his hitting ability as well, but remember he is a wicketkeeper batsman.
You look for a keeper first than select one who is better batsman than others.
SRH is playing with Saha. Other franchisees played with likes of Parthiv, Naman Ojha for years.
I don't see any reason why Rizwan wouldn't get a bid in IPL auction when there will be 10 teams looking for a decent wicketkeeper batsman.
I don't have much idea about T20 stats of players like Haris, Imad etc, so can't comment on them.
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Babar, Shaheen and Rizwan - will get definite call up
Hasan Ali - maybe
but the primary question was can Ramiz raza help in thawing the frigid relationship? I think he could have but he passed an opportunity to sit and have a discussion
Hasan Ali - maybe
but the primary question was can Ramiz raza help in thawing the frigid relationship? I think he could have but he passed an opportunity to sit and have a discussion
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I don't think BCCI and PCB relationship needs any repairing because there is no problem there.
The only reason BCCI won't work with PCB on any front is for the optics of it. Just like they had to part ways with VIVO for last IPL season due to China LAC flare up.
Pakistan situation is slightly different as it's going to be more long term with our history of wars and ever since IK and Modi have taken over situation between India and Pak has hit a road-block and there is no resolving that, not in the near future.
So in India at least no one will take the risk of doing business with Pak be it entertainment or sports lest they invite fury of the people and government of the day certainly won't risk losing votes over it. So no Rameez Raja is going to solve this issue.
The only reason BCCI won't work with PCB on any front is for the optics of it. Just like they had to part ways with VIVO for last IPL season due to China LAC flare up.
Pakistan situation is slightly different as it's going to be more long term with our history of wars and ever since IK and Modi have taken over situation between India and Pak has hit a road-block and there is no resolving that, not in the near future.
So in India at least no one will take the risk of doing business with Pak be it entertainment or sports lest they invite fury of the people and government of the day certainly won't risk losing votes over it. So no Rameez Raja is going to solve this issue.
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Wasim Khan said this too.
He said people would be surprised to know how amicable the relationship is between PCB and BCCI
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Lol at people fantasising Pakistani players in IPL.
Maybe Babar's great grandson might get to open the batting with Dajjal's pota in an IPL game one day.
Maybe Babar's great grandson might get to open the batting with Dajjal's pota in an IPL game one day.
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It aint happening as long as Modi is in power
That's exactly I was about to post.
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Ramiz is respected in BCCI and it's not a problem between BCCI and PCB. Had it been so, it would have resolved long ago.
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Making the right noises, Ramiz
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Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Ramiz Raja on Monday said the 2023 Asia Cup in Pakistan will be a 50-over competition. He was talking to PCB digital following his return from Dubai, where he also met the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) officials.
"The ACC has agreed and approved that the 2023 event in Pakistan will be a 50-over competition and will be held in September. This aligns very nicely with the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2023, which will be held in October and November," said Raja in an official release.
"We are looking forward to hosting this tournament in Pakistan and I am confident it will be a well-organised event because this is what the fans want," he added.
The ACC has also confirmed next year's tournament in Sri Lanka will be played on a 20-over format and will be a prelude to the ICC Men's T20 World Cup 2022 to be held in Australia from October 16 to November 13.
On the ACC, Ramiz Raja said: "The ACC was set up to create a unified approach and collective stance so that we had one voice and if there was a situation, all stood together. I would like to see our relationship with other boards and the ACC be strong so that if there is an issue, like we had with the withdrawal of a couple of sides, a strong and joint statement could come out from the ACC platform.
"My message at the ACC was that we should not forget this philosophy and I am optimistic there will be better outcomes in future."
On his meeting with the BCCI officials, Ramiz Raja said: "I met with BCCI President Sourav Ganguly and Secretary Jay Shah on the sidelines of the ACC meetings. We need to create a cricketing bond, while I have also believed that politics should stay away from the sport as much as possible and this has always been our stance."
"A lot of work needs to be done to revitalise Pakistan-India cricket but there needs to be some comfortable level between the two boards and then we can see how far we can go. So overall, we had a good discussion," he added
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...ng-bond-with-bcci-pcb-chief-ramiz-raja/824541
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Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Ramiz Raja on Monday said the 2023 Asia Cup in Pakistan will be a 50-over competition. He was talking to PCB digital following his return from Dubai, where he also met the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) officials.
"The ACC has agreed and approved that the 2023 event in Pakistan will be a 50-over competition and will be held in September. This aligns very nicely with the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2023, which will be held in October and November," said Raja in an official release.
"We are looking forward to hosting this tournament in Pakistan and I am confident it will be a well-organised event because this is what the fans want," he added.
The ACC has also confirmed next year's tournament in Sri Lanka will be played on a 20-over format and will be a prelude to the ICC Men's T20 World Cup 2022 to be held in Australia from October 16 to November 13.
On the ACC, Ramiz Raja said: "The ACC was set up to create a unified approach and collective stance so that we had one voice and if there was a situation, all stood together. I would like to see our relationship with other boards and the ACC be strong so that if there is an issue, like we had with the withdrawal of a couple of sides, a strong and joint statement could come out from the ACC platform.
"My message at the ACC was that we should not forget this philosophy and I am optimistic there will be better outcomes in future."
On his meeting with the BCCI officials, Ramiz Raja said: "I met with BCCI President Sourav Ganguly and Secretary Jay Shah on the sidelines of the ACC meetings. We need to create a cricketing bond, while I have also believed that politics should stay away from the sport as much as possible and this has always been our stance."
"A lot of work needs to be done to revitalise Pakistan-India cricket but there needs to be some comfortable level between the two boards and then we can see how far we can go. So overall, we had a good discussion," he added
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...ng-bond-with-bcci-pcb-chief-ramiz-raja/824541
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