Abdullah719
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We will rest Hafeez to even it out. 

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So not exactly an 'A' team like some Indians were boasting about.
We beat India in the Champions Trophy final by 200 runsI am never gonna let this one go
Also will tell them that Kohli does not guarantee a victory. Being Amir's bunny he rightfully doesn't want to play this one
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I know we (Indians) are in a foreign forum and need to defend our players but how can anyone justify Kohli sitting out?? He is not injured else would not have been playing the test matches. With world cup only few months away, why would a captain of the team want to opt out?? Should he not be building the ODI team before the world cup??
Pandya, Rahul, Dhawan, Bumrah etc all have had similar workload as Kohli but they will still play. But our captain decided to opt out leaving the team on its own?
I dont care who wins between Ind or Pak but its a very bad preceedent set by an Indian captain. MSD captained this side for 10 years but never opted out of a series saying its insignificant.
If Kohli thinks he will pick and choose series, he can play as a batsman and handover the LOI captaincy to Rohit.
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When did Kohli pick and choose series? If you want to blame anyone then blame your beloved IPL. Bhuvi and Bumrah got injuries there. Kohli too missed County stint because of that. He is not a machine. It's funny you are comparing his workload with a noob like Pandya here. Pandya too was rested for Zim series and Nidhas trophy. Who is he to get a rest here?
Missed Aust T20s, missed Nidahas trophy, Afg test and now missing Asia cup.
So basically since his marriage, he has only played SA tour, IPL, Eng tour. If its not pick and choose, what is??
Dhoni too used to miss series against Sri Lanka when he was the captain. Did you complain at that time? Now that his career is on the last stage he is trying his best to play every match. If any player that deserves any kind of rest in this team then its Kohli. Players like Pandya should try to play every match and improve themselves rather than taking a rest.
When did Kohli pick and choose series? If you want to blame anyone then blame your beloved IPL. Bhuvi and Bumrah got injuries there. Kohli too missed County stint because of that. He is not a machine. It's funny you are comparing his workload with a noob like Pandya here. Pandya too was rested for Zim series and Nidhas trophy. Who is he to get a rest here?
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I see Bangladesh and Pakistan beating you comfortably. But hey, good practice for the youngsters? Its amazing how bad that Indian batting line-up looks without Virat Kohli.This is not even our best team but it is more than enough to beat Asian minnows.
Good a captain with fresh mindset will lead the side. Kohli has lost odi series and looks like might have lost test series as well + playing too many matches. Rohit will come fresh and won't have loss in mind.
I see Bangladesh and Pakistan beating you comfortably. But hey, good practice for the youngsters? Its amazing how bad that Indian batting line-up looks without Virat Kohli.
The only way you might have a chance against Pakistan is if all our pacers are injured and we have to open the bowling with Nawaz and Hafeez. Besides that, this is a complete mismatch. [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] might end up creating a thread for Imam’s fastest 1000 runs soonWe have a couple of old-timers but it doesn't take much to beat teams like Pakistan and Bangladesh. That top 4 is still solid even without Kohli.
The only way you might have a chance against Pakistan is if all our pacers are injured and we have to open the bowling with Nawaz and Hafeez. Besides that, this is a complete mismatch. [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] might end up creating a thread for Imam’s fastest 1000 runs soon![]()
Muhammad Amir. Enough said. Your India A captain still has sleepless nights thanks to this ladLet’s list your pacers against India who could not do anything. Imran, Akram, Waqar, Shoaib who could not win a single match in WCs. Do you think just because CT win, all current pacers are greater than them?
The only way you might have a chance against Pakistan is if all our pacers are injured and we have to open the bowling with Nawaz and Hafeez. Besides that, this is a complete mismatch. [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] might end up creating a thread for Imam’s fastest 1000 runs soon![]()
pandya is a fast bowler? lolWe will be playing on dead UAE tracks. Your trundlers won't be able to survive there like they did in English conditions. Besides we will have one of the fastest bowling unit in Bumrah, Khaleel and Pandya, not to mention the wrist spinners. Good luck to your batsmen facing them.
We will be playing on dead UAE tracks. Your trundlers won't be able to survive there like they did in English conditions. Besides we will have one of the fastest bowling unit in Bumrah, Khaleel and Pandya, not to mention the wrist spinners. Good luck to your batsmen facing them.
Dhoni did not miss a single series either for India or CSK in the first 5 years of his captaincy. I think the the first game he missed due to an injury was an ODI game in Aust 2012 (only 1 game) where Sehwag captained. But ofcourse, I dont expect you to know.
And I dont know who is this Jattmulla you are referring. Even if I am him, not much you can do anyway.
This is a valid bahana if we lose but this will also prove that we are a one man army.Indians already have a bahana ready for the oncoming phainti
Let them talk big. Deep inside they know that a 3-0 phainta awaits, so they are having all the fun while they can.![]()
pandya is a fast bowler? lol
This is a valid bahana if we lose but this will also prove that we are a one man army.![]()
It's funny that some folks are calling it a "weakened" side just because one player is not playing. If the absence of player turns Indian national side into India A, then you have bigger problems.
It's funny that some folks are calling it a "weakened" side just because one player is not playing. If the absence of player turns Indian national side into India A, then you have bigger problems.
Lol where did this first 5 years of his captaincy thing come from now? He was rested in 2014 series against Sri Lanka but ofcourse I don't expect you to know that.
I don't understand how this is India "A". Yeah they are missing their best player but still the other 10 regulars are playing. or is this Indian team a one man army ?
The missing player is
Captain
Best player in the team
Best batsman in the world
One of the ATGs in Odi cricket.
So this started a new debate. Is this indian team a one man army?
If the exclusion of Kohli makes us look like an 'A' team then the answer is yes.
And the rest of India team do what exactly?
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So good thing is our teachers are better than in India because they have been chest thumping about their world cup advantage for decades now and we have done this for just an year.
The TTFs will be back in the 11.
01.Rohit *
02.Shikhar
03.Rahul
04.Rayudu
05.Dhoni +
06.Jadhav
07.Pandya![]()
I just realised that Umesh Yadav has once again been dropped from the squad.
Very unfair on Umesh, who bowled his heart out on those English roads in the LOIs.
Can't believe the selectors went with Thakur over Umesh. Unbelievable!
I just realised that Umesh Yadav has once again been dropped from the squad.
Very unfair on Umesh, who bowled his heart out on those English roads in the LOIs.
Can't believe the selectors went with Thakur over Umesh. Unbelievable!
I can see why others think this is still a strong Indian team, but frankly in my honest opinion this team should stand no chance this tournament. Indian LOI team is Kohli or nothing these days. Maybe Sharma can fire against the qualifier, but I don’t see India challenging either of Bangladesh or Pakistan with this batting line-up.TBH even [MENTION=1650]Usman Chadda[/MENTION] is saying that without Kohli this is Ind A team.
BTW you were saying the other day that India will never rest Kohli in a tournament they are suppose to play Pak multiple times. Looks like another one of those many incorrect predictions![]()
You are in for a surprise regarding the speeds of your ‘pace’ attack in the UAE. Pandya is not a fast bowler, please do not make this a joke thread by bringing that part timer into the discussion.We will be playing on dead UAE tracks. Your trundlers won't be able to survive there like they did in English conditions. Besides we will have one of the fastest bowling unit in Bumrah, Khaleel and Pandya, not to mention the wrist spinners. Good luck to your batsmen facing them.
The missing player is
Captain
Best player in the team
Best batsman in the world
One of the ATGs in Odi cricket.
Sachin used to do these pick and choose when he became 37 yo. Our Kuptaan sahab at the prime age of 29 only started this drama.![]()
Even dhoni and raina took rest from 2014 asia cup.I feel india will play better without kohli in this asia cup. Rohit is a good captain in limited over.
Agree sirajh should have been given chance and perhaps krunal pandyaShould have rested Pandya and Bumrah also. Asia cup isnt a significant tournament any more.
So Indian fans and [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] are in a win-win situation here. Defeats to BD, SL or Pak, they can easily say this was our A team. If they win, they will celebrate.
Agree sirajh should have been given chance and perhaps krunal pandya
Rested for the Tests in Australia. Thats important not this Asia cup.
Should have rested Pandya and Bumrah also. Asia cup isnt a significant tournament any more.
Nothing to do with Pakistan. Asia cup just isnt a premier tournament anymore.
Australia tour is far far more important than Asia cup and Bumrah and Pandya should be fit for that.
Bcci has shown what they think by resting their captain their best player the best batsman in the world and arguably one of the greatest batsman in ODIs.
Why are you repeating this broken record and trying to feel good in your own way?
If "Asia cup not important" logic is what makes you sleep at night, then cool.
However, a full strength squad indicates how important it is. Each international cricket match is important.
India Australia tours used to exist long before the Asia cup. Thats not the reason. its more the proximity of the Asia Cup to other big series. Asia is cricket's epicenter. The Asia Cup is therefore of decent importance. India havent rested too many key players and thats because its still important especially in the year leading to a world cup.
Australia tour is far more important than playing no. 5 6 7 in a cup. If India wins the test series in Aus it will be considered a bigger achievement than any asia cup win.
India is cricket's epicenter not rest of Asia.
Half of India's test side doesnot play ODIs. So only Pandya and Kohli have played all matches from IPL to Eng tour and deserved rest. Our bowling attack is totally different except Bumrah.
Eng is #5 Test Side, Aus is now #6 just few points above BD in ODIs these days.
In LOI it is, WC>>CT>>Asia Cup>WT20>>Bilaterials. Nonetheless, I can understand that you are bored since you have won this many times already and number of participants are very less.
Kind of sad India are resting their best player for Asia Cup. Never understood why India seem to place little importance on the asia cup. It's a tournament for best of asia. It's a bit like Euros in football. Surely a tournament win should mean more than an odd series win.
Think's it's partly to do with India's approach to the rivalry over recent years. India want to prioritize playing against the others of the big three and India-Pak relations have been poor. And while India do play with Sri Lanka, they haven't really developed that sort of rivalry.
It's kind of weird. India want to develop a rivalry with Aus and England, who always will have a deeper rivalry amongst themselves than anyone else. On the other hand it seems like Pak always have a rivalry with India whether India want to have a rivalry with them or not. Just an awkward mess really.
MSK: Virat's been playing almost non-stop, he is absolutely drained
Calcutta: The senior national selectors'-scripted "workload management" protocol for the 2019 World Cup has kicked in, with India captain Virat Kohli rested for the Asia Cup.
Had the Asia Cup been a low-key tournament like the Nidahas Trophy in Sri Lanka, towards the end of the 2017-2018 season, the decision wouldn't have evoked much discussion.
The September 15-28 Asia Cup, however, features Pakistan and, whether one likes it or not, India vs Pakistan games continue to mean just about everything on both sides of the border.
That being so, unless Virat has a major problem (thankfully, it's not so), he should have been heading to the UAE after England.
The last Test, at The Oval, ends on September 11 and India's first match, in Dubai, is against a qualifier on September 18.
Virat need not have played that game, but taken the field a day later, versus Pakistan.
Nobody disagrees with the principle of managing workload, but to start with the Asia Cup is rather hard to digest. Key players have, in the past, not been rested in series which really have been of no consequence.
It's unthinkable that Pakistan's selectors would have rested the No.1 player, who is also the captain, in a tournament where India's a participant.
Big question is why did the Board of Control for Cricket in India, which is 'hosting' the Asia Cup away from home, keep the itineraries so tight?
Somebody must answer.
"Sometimes, decisions are taken keeping the bigger picture in mind. The World Cup is only eight-nine months away, so workload becomes critical, especially for those who play all three formats," chief selector MSK Prasad told The Telegraph.
Speaking around an hour after he and his colleagues (except Devang Gandhi, who was on a conference call from Southampton) met in Mumbai on Saturday, Prasad added: "The decision to rest Virat, which was set rolling during/after the Nottingham Test, has been a collective one.
"We had a series of discussions and Virat was a part of them...
"Reality is that Virat has been playing almost non-stop, except for about a month from the latter part of May (after the IPL). He's absolutely drained and it is not fair to expect him to keep performing at such a high level...
"A call had to be made. Besides, we have a very important tour of Australia, from November. That's a priority."
Surely, Virat could have been rested in the two-Test series against the West Indies, from October 4... Prasad responded by informing the "workload" factor would come into play when the squads for the Tests, five ODIs and the three T20Is get selected.
Another selector accepted that Virat could have been rested for the two Tests, but he "wasn't a robot and cannot play like one."
Of course, Virat isn't a robot. But, maybe, it wouldn't be out of place to reproduce what he told this Reporter in Dhaka after a smashing 183 versus Pakistan in the 2012 Asia Cup.
The interview had been conducted by the poolside of the Pan Pacific Sonargaon before a gym session.
Here goes: "Obviously, it's different. India-Pakistan matches have always had their history. As kids also, we used to be keen for this huge game. So, that's always been on my mind, that this is a dream match for any cricketer playing for India or Pakistan...
"If you do well, it's going to be a totally different high. I experienced it in the last game (in Mirpur) and it was wonderful...
"Obviously, it was a high-pressure match and you do think about it before the game. Everyone watches, so that sort of comes across your mind and is hard to ignore."
Pretty revealing that from Virat, who one assumes would have relished the challenge of defeating Pakistan, especially after being upset in the 2017 Champions Trophy final.
Indeed, so passionate is Virat that one would expect him to even play on one leg - against Pakistan. That's the aura which has grown around him.
Virat has been a party to what is a massive call by Prasad and Co, but would there also be a "collective decision" with regard to "workload management" during IPL XII, which precedes the 2019 World Cup?
One waits with much anticipation.