Recipe to ace targets against India in T20s: Defeat Jasprit Bumrah psychologically and the rest of the attack will collapse

[kron]

I'm pretty sure that "Choking loser" knows more about fast bowling than the forum experts here who are coping real hard ever since Bumrah started winning series and tournaments for India.

For sure he may know more. But then many so called expaaart bowlers have been absolutely awful at coaching or even predictions. So I wouldnt entirely base it on their alleged knowledge.

But yeah point is that we as Pakistani fans need to understand and respect a legend when you see one.

Our neighbours India have the goat bowler in bumrah and he is better than Steyn.

 

[kron]

Marshall
McGrath
Hadlee
Ambrose
Steyn
Imran
Wasim
Bumrah
Lillee
Donald
Garner/ Holding

That’s my list. Lillee has phenomenal WPM so I am not really bothered with his Asia record which is such a low sample and it didn’t matter much back.

Wasim imran and Steyn are not better than bumrah in any format tbh.

Across formats not even worth comparing

In tests even there I don’t think so. Just don’t see it at all.

Only Steyn might be on par. Bumrah just needs one good away series in nz or SA again and hopefully draw or win then I have him above all comfortably. Like super comfortably.

 

[Ab Fan]

Wasim imran and Steyn are not better than bumrah in any format tbh.

Across formats not even worth comparing

In tests even there I don’t think so. Just don’t see it at all.

Only Steyn might be on par. Bumrah just needs one good away series in nz or SA again and hopefully draw or win then I have him above all comfortably. Like super comfortably.

Quality wise, Bumrah has gone past them. Only on longevity account, they are ahead of Bumrah.

 

[kron]

Quality wise, Bumrah has gone past them. Only on longevity account, they are ahead of Bumrah.

Fair

If you use that metric fair enough.

I care only about quality and impact. Match winning ability where he is definitely up amongst the best ever

If he quits odi and only plays t20 and tests I reckon he could have longevity too.

 

[GabbarOnCrease]

You had your chance to respond to the original point and you started nonsense so I repeated nonsense. I respond based on the IQ of the poster.

Funny how your IQ based responses still haven’t produced a single cricket argument. All we hv had so far is accent analysis and self proclmd intelligence

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well dale Steyn as a choking loser in almost all icc events anyway.
What does he know about winning?

But he was a great. A true great in tests. 5 or 6 years world number 1 is incredible in tests. And they won maces in patches.

What does bangldesh know about winning anything

 

[Hikaru]

I hope Kiwis didn't read this masterpiece analysis, or we can be in trouble.

 

[kron]

What does bangldesh know about winning anything

What has Bangladesh got anything to do with bumrah?

Our neighbours, India have the goat bowler.

Steyn is inferior to bumrah

 

[cricketjoshila]

What has Bangladesh got anything to do with bumrah?

Our neighbours, India have the goat bowler.

Steyn is inferior to bumrah

Bangladeshi @sweep_shot thinks bumrah. Is a chucker

 

[JaDed]

It may sound hilarious, but if anybody in NZ could ace Bumrah it's Jimmy Neesham or Chapman

Yeah none did, Neesham got bowled

 

[MP2011]

I say it again, how lucky we are to have Bumrah in our ranks and not in opposition ranks

 

[MP2011]

To see the perennial sook still sooking about Bumrah makes it all the more sweeter

 

[Ab Fan]

Fair

If you use that metric fair enough.

I care only about quality and impact. Match winning ability where he is definitely up amongst the best ever

If he quits odi and only plays t20 and tests I reckon he could have longevity too.

That’s fair. He is a GOAT in T20I, won two T20I WCs with significant contributions. Qualitatively, up there with best in Tests and has done well in both ODI World Cups too.

Now, I think he should forget T20s for 1.5 years and focus on ODIs till 2027 WC and play tests. The workload for test is light so play ODIs and Tests for next 1.5 years till 2027 WC.

 

[BreadPakoda]

NZ missed the trick again. Should have shown some daleri against Bumrah. Starting with Rachin who instead of smashing him for sixes gave away his wicket first ball. When will teams learn.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Plan FAIL lol

 

[Buffet]

Based on my read, OP made a light hearted thread but some posters are taking it a different way.

Even on serious note, you can't simply play Bumrah's 4 overs for 15-20 runs in high scoring games. Yes, the hardest bowler to hit but you got to still try to hit. Some time it will come off and you will have easier time winning those games.

 

[Josh]

Based on my read, OP made a light hearted thread but some posters are taking it a different way.

Even on serious note, you can't simply play Bumrah's 4 overs for 15-20 runs in high scoring games. Yes, the hardest bowler to hit but you got to still try to hit. Some time it will come off and you will have easier time winning those games.

When teams are already 5 wickets down, they take calculated risks.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Based on my read, OP made a light hearted thread but some posters are taking it a different way.

Even on serious note, you can't simply play Bumrah's 4 overs for 15-20 runs in high scoring games. Yes, the hardest bowler to hit but you got to still try to hit. Some time it will come off and you will have easier time winning those games.

80% of the deliveries were slower balls. Guptill said it is harder to pick his slower balls compared to others is because of his wrist position that allows the ball to dip.

 

[Suleiman]

A source in India tells me NZ was compromised, so op Final Solution was called off.

Moreover, I predicted in the match thread even before the game that Bumrah will take 4 wickets, rest of the prediction was pretty close too, but I am only human.

https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...2026-trophy-in-ahmedabad.320803/post-12948050

Trust me I know what I’m talking about when it comes to this kid, he has been analyzed properly, yet his fan girls don’t think I have the intellectual firepower to beat him psychologically.

If 1 other batsman was willing to deploy this solution it’d be curtains. So far Sahibzada is on board and he’s done well. Need 1 more. Who will be the last member of this unit?

 

[kron]

That’s fair. He is a GOAT in T20I, won two T20I WCs with significant contributions. Qualitatively, up there with best in Tests and has done well in both ODI World Cups too.

Now, I think he should forget T20s for 1.5 years and focus on ODIs till 2027 WC and play tests. The workload for test is light so play ODIs and Tests for next 1.5 years till 2027 WC.

Thing is
Let’s say you are bumrah

What would you do?

All the glitz money and glamour is in t20

Odi pays next to nothing

Tests gets you add money I guess but still not close to t20 overall

However a good test player allows you to be selected for things like IpL etc too.

I don’t blame the players tbh. I was very afraid of this situation and unfortunately it is happening

Just hoping he just gives less importance to t20 and focuses on odi WC and tests

 

[kron]

A source in India tells me NZ was compromised, so op Final Solution was called off.

Moreover, I predicted in the match thread even before the game that Bumrah will take 4 wickets, rest of the prediction was pretty close too, but I am only human.

https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...2026-trophy-in-ahmedabad.320803/post-12948050

Trust me I know what I’m talking about when it comes to this kid, he has been analyzed properly, yet his fan girls don’t think I have the intellectual firepower to beat him psychologically.

If 1 other batsman was willing to deploy this solution it’d be curtains. So far Sahibzada is on board and he’s done well. Need 1 more. Who will be the last member of this unit?

I heard that too. Our neighbours apparently spiked their food which made them drowsy during the game

 

[Buffet]

When teams are already 5 wickets down, they take calculated risks.

In powerplay, he went for 9 runs in 2 overs. NZ was not 5 wickets down at that time.

You can't chase 255+ scoring that way. It's not that batsmen are not trying but I was making a point that it becomes very hard to make up against others. If chase is 170-180 then it's ok to take 15-20 runs in 4 overs against Bumrah but not when chasing 250 runs.

 

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@Suleiman

Did you get your answer today ? With 224 to get in the remaining 17 overs when Bumrah came into bowl there was no other option for NZ batsmen but to attack Bumrah and all that ended up happening was that they couldn't hit him for a single 4 ( let alone a 6 lol ) in his 4 overs.

The only way that makes sense is if you are accusing of match fixing.​

 

[RexRex]

I'm curious to how this bulldozing Indian batting lineup would play against Bumrah .. could they hit boundaries off him freely ?

 

[Romali_rotti]

Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella's tweet:


Congratulations to team India on a fantastic t20 WC win, tough luck today New Zealand @JaspritBumrah93, once again a match winner when it mattered the most.

 

[cricketjoshila]

A source in India tells me NZ was compromised, so op Final Solution was called off.

Moreover, I predicted in the match thread even before the game that Bumrah will take 4 wickets, rest of the prediction was pretty close too, but I am only human.

https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...2026-trophy-in-ahmedabad.320803/post-12948050

Trust me I know what I’m talking about when it comes to this kid, he has been analyzed properly, yet his fan girls don’t think I have the intellectual firepower to beat him psychologically.

If 1 other batsman was willing to deploy this solution it’d be curtains. So far Sahibzada is on board and he’s done well. Need 1 more. Who will be the last member of this unit?

How many matches pakistan won against India? Because of this sahibzada solution deployment

 

[Suleiman]

Indians are skimming over the fact that I very bravely as a neutral fan predicted Bumrah will get 4 wickets in the match thread before the match even started.

Trust me, I know what I’m up against. I know Bumrah.

However this is just Mark I of the final solution. And I don’t trust NZ players with it.

So I am back in the Batcave for now refining the solution.

 

[Advaith]

A source in India tells me NZ was compromised, so op Final Solution was called off.

Moreover, I predicted in the match thread even before the game that Bumrah will take 4 wickets, rest of the prediction was pretty close too, but I am only human.

https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...2026-trophy-in-ahmedabad.320803/post-12948050

Trust me I know what I’m talking about when it comes to this kid, he has been analyzed properly, yet his fan girls don’t think I have the intellectual firepower to beat him psychologically.

If 1 other batsman was willing to deploy this solution it’d be curtains. So far Sahibzada is on board and he’s done well. Need 1 more. Who will be the last member of this unit?

Ok newzealand is compromised what about others and Pakistan?? They all are compromised too ??

 

[Devadwal]

P.O.M Award + P.O.T Award in ICC

7 times - 𝗝𝗮𝘀𝗽𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗕𝘂𝗺𝗿𝗮𝗵
6 times - Starc + Hazlewood + Cummins + Rabada

Now Need POTS in NZ Tests, 20+ wickets in 2027 WC & Olympic Gold.

Then we can simply call him UNDISPUTED GOAT .

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Indians are skimming over the fact that I very bravely as a neutral fan predicted Bumrah will get 4 wickets in the match thread before the match even started.

Trust me, I know what I’m up against. I know Bumrah.

However this is just Mark I of the final solution. And I don’t trust NZ players with it.

So I am back in the Batcave for now refining the solution.

Bumrah wasn't even the most impactful bowler in the final. It was Axar who removed both Allen and Philips in the PP and then Mitchell.

 

[jeetu]

Very few bowlers in history creates an aura where batsman knew precisely what was coming and still struggle to cope with it.
Bumrah with yorker. Every batsman is aware that yorker is coming but they get deceived by its pace. To Bumrah's credit yorker is extremely accurate.
Mcgrath / Hadlee with unreal accuracy. Both lacked pace and were not exponent big swing and seam delivery. Despite that batsman kept falling to them. Expecting bad ball by them seems to be wishful thinking.
Waqar with toe crushing yorkers. During early 90's every batsman knew that 150kmh yorker was coming and were still helpless against it.
Many other great example too , but these comes to my mind first.

 

[kron]

Very few bowlers in history creates an aura where batsman knew precisely what was coming and still struggle to cope with it.
Bumrah with yorker. Every batsman is aware that yorker is coming but they get deceived by its pace. To Bumrah's credit yorker is extremely accurate.
Mcgrath / Hadlee with unreal accuracy. Both lacked pace and were not exponent big swing and seam delivery. Despite that batsman kept falling to them. Expecting bad ball by them seems to be wishful thinking.
Waqar with toe crushing yorkers. During early 90's every batsman knew that 150kmh yorker was coming and were still helpless against it.
Many other great example too , but these comes to my mind first.

If bumrah played on uncovered pitches in tests back in 90s
He would legit average 10

They are lucky no one had to play bumrah in 90s

Marshall
Mcgrath
Hadlee
Bumrah
Ambrose
Steyn
Imran khan
Rabada
Cummins

In that order

Those are best ever in tests

 

[Ab Fan]

If bumrah played on uncovered pitches in tests back in 90s
He would legit average 10

They are lucky no one had to play bumrah in 90s

Marshall
Mcgrath
Hadlee
Bumrah
Ambrose
Steyn
Imran khan
Rabada
Cummins

In that order

Those are best ever in tests

7.5 to be precise

 

[sithb]

A bumrah without the t20s / IPL and one who was purely concentrating on tests would have played 90 tests and be close to 450 wickets. With the same average and strike rate that he's displaying now.

 

[prash88]

Target Shaheen Shah Afridi. Hit him for a six first over is working for India and many teams to beat Pakistan everytime...

 

[guard]

For sure he may know more. But then many so called expaaart bowlers have been absolutely awful at coaching or even predictions. So I wouldnt entirely base it on their alleged knowledge.

But yeah point is that we as Pakistani fans need to understand and respect a legend when you see one.

Our neighbours India have the goat bowler in bumrah and he is better than Steyn.

‘We’ Pakistanis….

 

[sweep_shot]

If bumrah played on uncovered pitches in tests back in 90s
He would legit average 10

They are lucky no one had to play bumrah in 90s

Marshall
Mcgrath
Hadlee
Bumrah
Ambrose
Steyn
Imran khan
Rabada
Cummins

In that order

Those are best ever in tests

Did you check Bumrah's last 2 years performance in Test? South Africa literally made Bumrah (and India) to grovel in the recent Test series.

Bumrah would probably be a water boy in the 90's.

 

[kron]

Did you check Bumrah's last 2 years performance in Test? South Africa literally made Bumrah (and India) to grovel in the recent Test series.

Bumrah would probably be a water boy in the 90's.

The series where he averaged like 22?

Indian batsmen let him down

He still bowled well

And yes he would average 10 in 90s trash pitches.

 

[Sachin fan]

The series where he averaged like 22?

Indian batsmen let him down

He still bowled well

And yes he would average 10 in 90s trash pitches.

Imagine the high standards they hold Bumrah to, where a series where he averages 22 is somehow seen as a bad series for him.

 

[nish_mate]

Imagine the high standards they hold Bumrah to, where a series where he averages 22 is somehow seen as a bad series for him.

Excuse his ignorance, they are used to 22 averages for their team, albeit for batters.

 

[kron]

Imagine the high standards they hold Bumrah to, where a series where he averages 22 is somehow seen as a bad series for him.

It’s bumrahs fault our neighbours couldn’t score 120 chasing right?

Lol

In the second test they played badly but it just seemed like the right players weren’t picked.

 

[JaDed]

The series where he averaged like 22?

Indian batsmen let him down

He still bowled well

And yes he would average 10 in 90s trash pitches.

Lol facts are never his friends..he ignores them continuously try emojis..

 

[kron]

Lol facts are never his friends..he ignores them continuously try emojis..

He just doesn’t want to admit that we Pakistanis can’t compete with the endians anymore.

They are on a different level since 2003 ish.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Imagine the high standards they hold Bumrah to, where a series where he averages 22 is somehow seen as a bad series for him.

Yeah I don't think my bro @sweep_shot realised he was actually complementing Bumrah for the recent south africa test series . By Bumrah's standards he should be avging 20 or below not 22, which makes him the greatest fast bowler of all time