(Reports) BCCI preparing to abandon Asia Cup & host 5 nation tournament if PCB refuses neutral venue

[Savak]

There is no way the ICC will let this impasse go on indefinately and not intervene between the two boards, the WC in India is already going to result in a loss to all the ICC members because of the failure of the BCCI to obtain a tax exemption for USD 116 million in taxes, if Pakistan pulls out of the WC and there is no Indo Pak contest, the losses to the ICC will further multiply and the share of all the other ICC members will be affected.

At some point, the ICC knowing this will have to mediate between the two boards. Will be funny to see the Indians further throw tantrums i.e. they are withdrawing from the ICC, they are forming an Indian Cricket Council and they will take all the other ICC members with them.

 

[cricketjoshila]

There is no way the ICC will let this impasse go on indefinately and not intervene between the two boards, the WC in India is already going to result in a loss to all the ICC members because of the failure of the BCCI to obtain a tax exemption for USD 116 million in taxes, if Pakistan pulls out of the WC and there is no Indo Pak contest, the losses to the ICC will further multiply and the share of all the other ICC members will be affected.

At some point, the ICC knowing this will have to mediate between the two boards. Will be funny to see the Indians further throw tantrums i.e. they are withdrawing from the ICC, they are forming an Indian Cricket Council and they will take all the other ICC members with them.

BCCI has agreed to pay in taxes in India on behalf of ICC. So ICC and its members will not lose any money.

Its now a proven fact that 90 per cent of ICC revenues come from India. Next are England and Australia. So money coming from Pakistan is miniscule. I guess Pakistanis need to come out of this delusion that Pakistan matches fund ICC. Its India and only India. So Pakistan not coming wont result in any big financial losses.

ICC cannot do jack. If the Indian government says no. Then its a no for the BCCI.

ICC knows where there bread is buttered. And which country to choose if the push comes to shove.

 

[Smbhayi]

The best reply Pak ever give to India is win the World Cup in India..

 

[Savak]

BCCI has agreed to pay in taxes in India on behalf of ICC. So ICC and its members will not lose any money.

Its now a proven fact that 90 per cent of ICC revenues come from India. Next are England and Australia. So money coming from Pakistan is miniscule. I guess Pakistanis need to come out of this delusion that Pakistan matches fund ICC. Its India and only India. So Pakistan not coming wont result in any big financial losses.

ICC cannot do jack. If the Indian government says no. Then its a no for the BCCI.

ICC knows where there bread is buttered. And which country to choose if the push comes to shove.

It doesn't matter even if the BCCI pays the taxes, the share of the rest of the countries will still be affected, the overall pool is still being subject to tax and all the members end up getting a smaller share as a result.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It doesn't matter even if the BCCI pays the taxes, the share of the rest of the countries will still be affected, the overall pool is still being subject to tax and all the members end up getting a smaller share as a result.

Are you taking the mickey?

The whole tax liability of $116mn will be paid by the BCCI. ICC and its other members won't pay anything.

 

[Savak]

Are you taking the mickey?

The whole tax liability of $116mn will be paid by the BCCI. ICC and its other members won't pay anything.

But because of that liability, the overall pool will be reduced. Without the taxes owing, the pool for all the ICC members combined will be $116 million higher.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You guys are not understanding the reason behind this.

PCB doesnt care about Asia Cup. No one does, its an irrelevant tournament. Issue is that Pakistan now has hosting rights for the next Champions trophy. Pakistan wants to host that in Pakistan, get better sponsors and make a buck and also show the world that Pakistan is safe and Pakistan can bid for more ICC events.

Now to be able to host Champions trophy, PCB needs to host a small tournament like Asia Cup, purpose being PCB wants to show two things. They can host a tournament by catering multiple teams, and that India shows up.

India not showing up sabotages Pakistans who plan. Its funny how [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] is crying about PCB sabotaging BCCI when infact BCCI and India does the same thing.

If India doesnt show up to pakistan for Asia Cup, Pakistan will have to boycott the world cup. Because the ICC is not intervening, they allow BCCI whatever they want to. If Pakistan boycotts the World Cup, and ICC faces losses from the potential money the could had made, than by 2025 Champions trophy, it is hoped that ICC will toughen up and make sure that all teams are properly travelling to other countries.

PCB is not required to cater to India by having these hybrid models for one team. It will start a precedence as [MENTION=99723]boomboomcheema[/MENTION] has said.

India showing up or not will depend on the Indian government. It will not matter whether Asia cup or any other cup is played in Pakistan or not.

PCB first needs to find big sponsors for its home matches and PSL before it thinks about finding sponsors for ICC.

PCB tried to sabotage BCCI. But it fails. BCCI OTOH retaliates and have people like you whining.

India isn't turning up for Asia cup. And PCB can boycott the WC. 90 per cent of the ICC revenues come from India. Next are England and Australia. So pakistan's contribution is little.

What will ICC do? What are their options if India refuses to go to Pakistan? Toughen up? How exactly? How can they punish India?

 

[cricketjoshila]

But because of that liability, the overall pool will be reduced. Without the taxes owing, the pool for all the ICC members combined will be $116 million higher.

BCCI will pay that 116mn from their own pockets. So how will ICC pool be affected?

This is not ICC money thats being deducted but BCCI paying from their own coffers.

 

[Savak]

BCCI will pay that 116mn from their own pockets. So how will ICC pool be affected?

This is not ICC money thats being deducted but BCCI paying from their own coffers.

The ICC Pool and the overall pool will be $116 higher without this tax. All ICC events require tax exemption.

For instance if the overall pool is 1116 without the tax, all ICC members will benefit where 1116 will be divided among the ICC members and everyone gets a higher shares

Because of the tax, the pool will now be reduced to 1000 and all ICC members are now worse off because they will get a much lower shares in comparison to scenario 1 and even the BCCI is even more worse off because they have to pay the 116 tax bill from their share.

There is a reason why the ICC is unhappy over BCCI's failure to obtain tax exemption regardless of whether the BCCI agrees to bear the 116 tax liability.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I hope the PCB maintain a tough stance here.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The ICC Pool and the overall pool will be $116 higher without this tax. All ICC events require tax exemption.

For instance if the overall pool is 1116 without the tax, all ICC members will benefit where 1116 will be divided among the ICC members and everyone gets a higher shares

Because of the tax, the pool will now be reduced to 1000 and all ICC members are now worse off because they will get a much lower shares in comparison to scenario 1 and even the BCCI is even more worse off because they have to pay the 116 tax bill from their share.

There is a reason why the ICC is unhappy over BCCI's failure to obtain tax exemption regardless of whether the BCCI agrees to bear the 116 tax liability.

What are you even saying?

If the ICC pool is 1116 it will remain 1116 only. They will pay no taxes.None at all. Zero.

BCCI will pay the taxes. ICC won't have to pay anything.

This 116mn is coming from BCCI and not the ICC pool. If there were tax exemptions then BCCI would have saved on this 116mn.

So no, ICC pool isn't getting reduced. Only BCCI's bank balance is reduced.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

India showing up or not will depend on the Indian government. It will not matter whether Asia cup or any other cup is played in Pakistan or not.

PCB first needs to find big sponsors for its home matches and PSL before it thinks about finding sponsors for ICC.

PCB tried to sabotage BCCI. But it fails. BCCI OTOH retaliates and have people like you whining.

India isn't turning up for Asia cup. And PCB can boycott the WC. 90 per cent of the ICC revenues come from India. Next are England and Australia. So pakistan's contribution is little.

What will ICC do? What are their options if India refuses to go to Pakistan? Toughen up? How exactly? How can they punish India?

Hahaha do you even listen to yourself? How come India is paying 116 Million $ tax out of its own pocket then if ICC cant do Jack? They are paying it because they BCCI knows ICC will take the tournament somewhere else if BCCI did nt agree. You are contradicting yourself by asking how can ICC toughen up? BCCI paying 116 M $ out its own pocket is answer to that question.. if India continues to play spoil sports in ICC events like CT 2025.. of course they wont allow it to go on further.. there will be intervention by ICC to stop it. Teams have to visit each other for ICC tournaments .. if they dnt , they eventually risk their own hosting rights being stripped away

 

[cricketjoshila]

Hahaha do you even listen to yourself? How come India is paying 116 Million $ tax out of its own pocket then if ICC cant do Jack? They are paying it because they BCCI knows ICC will take the tournament somewhere else if BCCI did nt agree. You are contradicting yourself by asking how can ICC toughen up? BCCI paying 116 M $ out its own pocket is answer to that question.. if India continues to play spoil sports in ICC events like CT 2025.. of course they wont allow it to go on further.. there will be intervention by ICC to stop it. Teams have to visit each other for ICC tournaments .. if they dnt , they eventually risk their own hosting rights being stripped away

BCCI assured ICC about the tax exemptions. So it is BCCI's duty to compensate ICC so that all other boards don't suffer.

ICC cannot function without Indian money. If they take tournaments out if India, India won't play in that tournament. ICC will lose a big team and 90 per cent of revenues. If Pakistan doesn't play ICC will only lose a team but hardly any revenue.

India vs Pakistan at the ICC is a zero sum game.

ICC cannot do anything once the Indian government says that India won't travel. If they want the Indian team and 90 per cent of their revenue, they will have to fall in line. It will all depend on the Indian government.

Let's see how ICC takes away hosting rights of India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

no wc without pakistan too, son.

So what will ICC do if Pakistan doesn't come to India in 2023?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistan were co host for 2011
MOU existed, zaka ashraf signed, PCB lost the case because the MOU stated that govt permission was required for tours
PCB never tired to sabotage IPL, PCB pulled out due to security reasons
How is a moot a bad thing?

PCB was the co host, India recently hosted the World T20 in UAE, how is that different to what PCB did? If PCB was not given option of co hosting the event in UAE, they were given the due share as they were on the right.

Security situation during the 2000s and now is different, plus Pakistan never gave presidential security in the past. And all teams have toured except for India.

The last sentence is not a fact. India

A co host where no team was ready to go. Pakistani security failure was Pakistan's fault. Yet they tried to sabotage the WC with court cases and relented after taking money.

Icc t20 2021 was shifted because of s global pandemic. 2011 WC had no pandemic. It was pakistani security.

There was no MoU but a letter. And even then govt didnt give permission. But PCB wanted to extract money.

PCB pulled out because India refused to tour Pakistan. They thought they would arm twist India. Backfired.

Why should ICC run a domestic Indian league? Do they run PSL or BBL or CPL? Pakistanis have no stake in the IPL yet pakistanis want a slice of its revenues. Thats why Mani invited ICC to take over IPL.

India toured during 2000s. Australia refused. All countries toured except Australia.

Last line isn't a fact? Lol. So who brings 90 per cent of ICC revenues?

 

[Major]

India showing up or not will depend on the Indian government. It will not matter whether Asia cup or any other cup is played in Pakistan or not.

PCB first needs to find big sponsors for its home matches and PSL before it thinks about finding sponsors for ICC.

PCB tried to sabotage BCCI. But it fails. BCCI OTOH retaliates and have people like you whining.

India isn't turning up for Asia cup. And PCB can boycott the WC. 90 per cent of the ICC revenues come from India. Next are England and Australia. So pakistan's contribution is little.

What will ICC do? What are their options if India refuses to go to Pakistan? Toughen up? How exactly? How can they punish India?

Where did i said PCB is finding sponsors for ICC? PCB gets better sponsor for itself by having an ICC tournament hosting rights. WHether PCB finds itself a big or small sponsor, that is non of your concern.

You whine about PCB sabotaging yet enjoy BCCI sabotaging. Atleast be consistent with your rant.

Bro, you are still stuck in the revenue argument as if the revenue goes to your home. Its not about contribution, its about how to run an administration proeprly which you dont even understand as all you discuss is revenue, share, mola, as if you get money from it aswell.

ICC as a professional body needs to be controlling things and not the other way around. Like i said before, if countries starting pulling out and play politics, ICC's own game will get ruined. Hopefully, india doesnt come and Pakistan doesnt go, ICC will have to start controlling things.

Dont bother replying if its the usual immature Indian response of money, revenue, finance, mola, share. Its not you who i getting paid, its a cricket board, hence there is no point for you to flex.

 

[Major]

A co host where no team was ready to go. Pakistani security failure was Pakistan's fault. Yet they tried to sabotage the WC with court cases and relented after taking money.

Icc t20 2021 was shifted because of s global pandemic. 2011 WC had no pandemic. It was pakistani security.

There was no MoU but a letter. And even then govt didnt give permission. But PCB wanted to extract money.

PCB pulled out because India refused to tour Pakistan. They thought they would arm twist India. Backfired.

Why should ICC run a domestic Indian league? Do they run PSL or BBL or CPL? Pakistanis have no stake in the IPL yet pakistanis want a slice of its revenues. Thats why Mani invited ICC to take over IPL.

India toured during 2000s. Australia refused. All countries toured except Australia.

again doesnt matter. Pakistan was co host, this was told well in advance. The reason why the bid was given to South Asia was because 4 country's were co hosting. Pakistan could had been given the option of hosting it in UAE. India hosted the WOrld T20 in UAE and got the money, UAE were never the host. Doesnt matter if its a pandemic, co host means you are the host and thus PCB was paid legally.

If you are gonna whine about the pandemic than that only shows that India failed to be a proper host as it cant govern and run a cricket tournament at the same time.

PCB pulled out because Pakistan did two tours to India when India should had done one. Zaka Ashraf made the mistake of going to India in 2012, even though we defeated them.

Every league is sanctioned by ICC, if ICC doesnt approve a league it becomes illegal. Again with the usual slice share jargons.... Ehsan Mani doesnt want ICC to take over IPL due to financial reasons, Ehsan Mani wanted ICC to make sure proper laws were being followed.
IPL and BCCI is involved in discrimination and its ICC's job to make sure racism and discrimination should not exists at all levels of the sport.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

BCCI assured ICC about the tax exemptions. So it is BCCI's duty to compensate ICC so that all other boards don't suffer.

ICC cannot function without Indian money. If they take tournaments out if India, India won't play in that tournament. ICC will lose a big team and 90 per cent of revenues. If Pakistan doesn't play ICC will only lose a team but hardly any revenue.

India vs Pakistan at the ICC is a zero sum game.

ICC cannot do anything once the Indian government says that India won't travel. If they want the Indian team and 90 per cent of their revenue, they will have to fall in line. It will all depend on the Indian government.

Let's see how ICC takes away hosting rights of India.

Lol thats load of **... dude what age are you? That tax issue has been bone of contention between icc and bcci for very long time.. and icc threatened to shift tournament multiple times.. reported by indian media too. BCCI is nt running charity to pay 116M $ to support other boards it was supposed to be exempted by Indian Government. Now Bcci has no choice to pay it from their own share lol icc forced bcci's hand.. and all that icc cant do Jack Narrative falls flat based on this fact alone. World cricket functioned before Indian Big money came into it.. icc also existed and it will exist and function even if Indian Money is taken away. ICC's revenue comes from Indian Sponsors is nt charity.. its Business run by Indian Broadcaster and advertisers.. they mint money in these deals. Its not just Icc that will loose out with such childish behaviour.. im pretty sure its people like you in india who get horny on thought of Indian Money being involved in sports but quite misguided to think that India will control the decisions of that sports body.. no member in Fifa can influence Fifa based on money generated by sponsors that could be from a specific country.. this noise is made by Indians only

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

BCCI assured ICC about the tax exemptions. So it is BCCI's duty to compensate ICC so that all other boards don't suffer.

ICC cannot function without Indian money. If they take tournaments out if India, India won't play in that tournament. ICC will lose a big team and 90 per cent of revenues. If Pakistan doesn't play ICC will only lose a team but hardly any revenue.

India vs Pakistan at the ICC is a zero sum game.

ICC cannot do anything once the Indian government says that India won't travel. If they want the Indian team and 90 per cent of their revenue, they will have to fall in line. It will all depend on the Indian government.

Let's see how ICC takes away hosting rights of India.

Why will ICC take away hosting rights from India when BCCI has already bowed down infront of ICC? Daddy ICC is forcing their arrogant kid BCCI to pay their taxes.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Some fans really go below the belt and make fun of Pakistan not hosting teams for almost a decade due to terrorism and blasts that took many innocent lives. These same guys were proudly enjoying IPL hosted in UAE. What was the reason for hosting IPL in UAE or in South Africa? Was India not safe during that time?

 

[Rajdeep]

Some fans really go below the belt and make fun of Pakistan not hosting teams for almost a decade due to terrorism and blasts that took many innocent lives. These same guys were proudly enjoying IPL hosted in UAE. What was the reason for hosting IPL in UAE or in South Africa? Was India not safe during that time?

India was not safe that time due to Covid and hence it was moved to the UAE. There was no terrorism or cricket team attacked in India. Good attempt but its a chalk & cheese comparison.

Also, you get too much distracted what few unknown people say in internet forums. I have also seen many Pakistani fans make fun of India in social media. Pls don't tell me its only one sided and all Pak social media users are saints.

No one is stopping Pakistan to host Asia cup in Pakistan but it is upto India whether to travel or not. They are free to host the tournament without India if they can convince ACC. Indian cricket team will NEVER travel to Pakistan, not now or 2025 or 2035 or...

There was one threat in PP - "what is your prediction for year 2023". Everything I have said so far there has come true - Ramiz Raja removed from PCB chairman, India qualified for WTC finals, Yashasvi Jaiswal will have a breakthrough year etc etc.

In that thread I also predicted - Asia Cup 2023 will be played in UAE and world cup will be in India with Pakistan participating in it. Considering my Nostrodamus isque skillset, if it dosen't happen when time comes...hold me responsible.

 

[Devadwal]

Some fans really go below the belt and make fun of Pakistan not hosting teams for almost a decade due to terrorism and blasts that took many innocent lives. These same guys were proudly enjoying IPL hosted in UAE. What was the reason for hosting IPL in UAE or in South Africa? Was India not safe during that time?

you know the answer why the both time IPL were shifted from India but not due to terrorism

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

you know the answer why the both time IPL were shifted from India but not due to terrorism

2009
Election security fears force IPL to turn to England or South Africa

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/mar/23/indian-premier-league-security-fears


2014
Govt can’t guarantee adequate security, IPL to move abroad

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...s-south-africa-favourite-to-host-7th-edition/
[MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION] Now tell me what's the common keyword in both the articles? Security?

 

[cricketjoshila]

again doesnt matter. Pakistan was co host, this was told well in advance. The reason why the bid was given to South Asia was because 4 country's were co hosting. Pakistan could had been given the option of hosting it in UAE. India hosted the WOrld T20 in UAE and got the money, UAE were never the host. Doesnt matter if its a pandemic, co host means you are the host and thus PCB was paid legally.

If you are gonna whine about the pandemic than that only shows that India failed to be a proper host as it cant govern and run a cricket tournament at the same time.

PCB pulled out because Pakistan did two tours to India when India should had done one. Zaka Ashraf made the mistake of going to India in 2012, even though we defeated them.

Every league is sanctioned by ICC, if ICC doesnt approve a league it becomes illegal. Again with the usual slice share jargons.... Ehsan Mani doesnt want ICC to take over IPL due to financial reasons, Ehsan Mani wanted ICC to make sure proper laws were being followed.
IPL and BCCI is involved in discrimination and its ICC's job to make sure racism and discrimination should not exists at all levels of the sport.

Hosting rights can be stripped of a unfit host. Pakistan was unfit to host the tournament as no country was ready to visit a unsafe country. Yet first Pakistan tried to shift the entire tournament out of the SC and then tried to sabotage the tournament by court cases.

First Pakistani security fails. Players get attacked and injured. They still have the audacity to ask to host the tournament. And Pakistan was not the sole host of the WC. Other hosts too have to agree in any changes to the hosting venues. They didn't. Others can't be held responsible for Pakistan's failure.

So PCB pulled out to arm twist BCCI. Result. Pakistanis out of the IPL forever.

Ehsan Mani has zero say in Indian policy and so does ICC. Indian government policy says pakistanis are not allowed. Hence pakistanis are not allowed. Just like Russians are not allowed in many countries today. Its just policy against hostile nations. Pakistanis will not be granted visas and allowed to play here.

 

[Rajdeep]

2009
Election security fears force IPL to turn to England or South Africa

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/mar/23/indian-premier-league-security-fears


2014
Govt can’t guarantee adequate security, IPL to move abroad

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...s-south-africa-favourite-to-host-7th-edition/

[MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION] Now tell me what's the common keyword in both the articles? Security?

No clue what are you talking about. Seriously, you can't be that naive.

Those were precautionary measures take by GOI due to general election. IPL were not shifted out of India due to security concerns or terrorism but as a precaution to reduce the stress on police staff as most will be busy for election.

The fact that England team came to India to play the test series 3 weeks after Mumbai attacks says it all really. Kuch aur socho bade bhai to defame India bcoz this one was laugh worthy comparison.

 

[Major]

Hosting rights can be stripped of a unfit host. Pakistan was unfit to host the tournament as no country was ready to visit a unsafe country. Yet first Pakistan tried to shift the entire tournament out of the SC and then tried to sabotage the tournament by court cases.

First Pakistani security fails. Players get attacked and injured. They still have the audacity to ask to host the tournament. And Pakistan was not the sole host of the WC. Other hosts too have to agree in any changes to the hosting venues. They didn't. Others can't be held responsible for Pakistan's failure.

So PCB pulled out to arm twist BCCI. Result. Pakistanis out of the IPL forever.

Ehsan Mani has zero say in Indian policy and so does ICC. Indian government policy says pakistanis are not allowed. Hence pakistanis are not allowed. Just like Russians are not allowed in many countries today. Its just policy against hostile nations. Pakistanis will not be granted visas and allowed to play here.

first of all you are no one to judge whether Pakistan were unfit to host or not. Also pakistan was never unfit to host. And also there is no such role.

Pakistan got paid so its irrelevent what you have to say, i think iCC must have been adviced by their own lawyers and thats why Pakistan got paid rightly so. Funny how court decides something and a nobody is saying no its other way around.

Pakistan were host, you can whine all about it. Hosts are made well in advance. India was unfit to host during the pendamic yet they got the money for the event played in UAE.

Funny how WC hosting happened in 2011, IPL discrimination started from 2009.

Country policy and an ICC sanctioned league are two seperate things

Pakistan has been granted visas many time, so please. Also, ICC can intervene if host doesnt grant visas.

By your own admission you have just shown how India is unfit to host a tournament due to their poliicalization which icc says is ot allowed

 

[Major]

2009
Election security fears force IPL to turn to England or South Africa

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/mar/23/indian-premier-league-security-fears


2014
Govt can’t guarantee adequate security, IPL to move abroad

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...s-south-africa-favourite-to-host-7th-edition/

[MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION] Now tell me what's the common keyword in both the articles? Security?

hmm so India aws unfit to host even an IPL event twice and a World T20 event once.

By [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] logic, ipl money should had gone to South Africa in 2009

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

No clue what are you talking about. Seriously, you can't be that naive.

Those were precautionary measures take by GOI due to general election. IPL were not shifted out of India due to security concerns or terrorism but as a precaution to reduce the stress on police staff as most will be busy for election.

The fact that England team came to India to play the test series 3 weeks after Mumbai attacks says it all really. Kuch aur socho bade bhai to defame India bcoz this one was laugh worthy comparison.

I gave you two articles to read and you still don't have any clue? I know you are an andhbhakht but kabhi toh aankhein khol liya kar bhai. India wasn't safe due to elections that is why BCCI had to move IPL out of India. This is not a precautionary measure but a weakness in the Indian security system. Where are we hosting IPL next year?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol thats load of **... dude what age are you? That tax issue has been bone of contention between icc and bcci for very long time.. and icc threatened to shift tournament multiple times.. reported by indian media too. BCCI is nt running charity to pay 116M $ to support other boards it was supposed to be exempted by Indian Government. Now Bcci has no choice to pay it from their own share lol icc forced bcci's hand.. and all that icc cant do Jack Narrative falls flat based on this fact alone. World cricket functioned before Indian Big money came into it.. icc also existed and it will exist and function even if Indian Money is taken away. ICC's revenue comes from Indian Sponsors is nt charity.. its Business run by Indian Broadcaster and advertisers.. they mint money in these deals. Its not just Icc that will loose out with such childish behaviour.. im pretty sure its people like you in india who get horny on thought of Indian Money being involved in sports but quite misguided to think that India will control the decisions of that sports body.. no member in Fifa can influence Fifa based on money generated by sponsors that could be from a specific country.. this noise is made by Indians only

Indian government doesn't give tax exemptions. Thats why after 3 years F1 races stopped in India.

BCCI is doing what it is legally and ethically bound to do. Protect the financial rights of all ICC members. The issue with Pakistan is a different thing altogether. There the law says Indian team will not travel to Pakistan as Indian government has banned it.

Why will Indian sponsors pay money for a tournament Indian team has boycotted and Indian government has banned the team from? Are they foolish?

Go tell the ICC to function without Indian money and lose 90 percent of its revenue. But before that tell this to the ACC. Right now everyone sways to the BCCI money.

If getting sponsors is so easy ask PCB to fund the event and make up financially for the absence of India.

And i am old enough to have seen ICC bend its knee to BCCI in 2002 when Indian players refused to sign ICC ambush marketing clause and sponsors started pulling out when BCCI said it will only send a second 11. ICC tried to threaten Indian stars with a ban. Indian government and courts banned transfer of any money to ICC from India and mooted a possible ban on the ICC CT 2002 broadcast.

Result: ICC came on its knees. Indian players signed a amended clause as per their choice.

Next time learn history.

 

[Major]

There the law says Indian team will not travel to Pakistan as Indian government has banned it.

plz show me this law that the Indian parliament passed

 

[cricketjoshila]

hmm so India aws unfit to host even an IPL event twice and a World T20 event once.

By [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] logic, ipl money should had gone to South Africa in 2009

IPL 2014 was partially played in India and partially in UAE.

BCCI paid South Africa money to host the IPL.

It was to not stretch the security personnel to the max.


Japan was unfit to host the Olympics in 2020

11 countries in Europe were unfit to host the Euro.

And so many more such examples.

But in no case players were attacked with bombs and bullets and injured.

 

[Major]

IPL 2014 was partially played in India and partially in UAE.

BCCI paid South Africa money to host the IPL.

It was to not stretch the security personnel to the max.


Japan was unfit to host the Olympics in 2020

11 countries in Europe were unfit to host the Euro.

And so many more such examples.

But in no case players were attacked with bombs and bullets and injured.

BCCI was unfit to host 2022 World T20, should had given full refund to UAE govt.

Anyways, your argument is irrelevant as court decided at the end of the day. Go file a case in court

 

[cricketjoshila]

plz show me this law that the Indian parliament passed

Google and you will find multiple statements by govt mininsters.

Few posts back you yourself posted that PCB lost the case to BCCI because govt permission was needed to goto Pakistan and that permission didn't arrive.

If PCB thinks there is no such requirement they can sue BCCI again.

 

[Major]

Google and you will find multiple statements by govt mininsters.

Few posts back you yourself posted that PCB lost the case to BCCI because govt permission was needed to goto Pakistan and that permission didn't arrive.

If PCB thinks there is no such requirement they can sue BCCI again.

plz show me a law that was passed by your parliament. I dont care what a minister says.

You will go to court on the basis of here say?

plz show us the law here. Thanks

 

[cricketjoshila]

BCCI was unfit to host 2022 World T20, should had given full refund to UAE govt.

Anyways, your argument is irrelevant as court decided at the end of the day. Go file a case in court

India didn't host the 2022 Wt20. Nor did UAE. Australia did.

When UAE hosted the WT20 they were paid for hosting the event.

No court decided. PCB wanted to stall the tournament by court cases at the 11th hour. It extracted money to let go.

That's why BCCI has not signed the members participation agreement for the next ICC cycle. Indian participation in 2025 CT is not guaranteed and BCCI will likely put it into writing.

 

[cricketjoshila]

plz show me a law that was passed by your parliament. I dont care what a minister says.

You will go to court on the basis of here say?

plz show us the law here. Thanks

You caring or not caring doesn't matter.

The court cared when they threw the PCB case out saying Indian government permission is needed by BCCI to tour Pakistan.

India isn't visiting pakistan not in 2023 and may not in 2025.

ICC PCB or whoever else can do whatever they want.

 

[Rajdeep]

I gave you two articles to read and you still don't have any clue? I know you are an andhbhakht but kabhi toh aankhein khol liya kar bhai. India wasn't safe due to elections that is why BCCI had to move IPL out of India. This is not a precautionary measure but a weakness in the Indian security system. Where are we hosting IPL next year?

Why would I read the article when I am well aware why those 2 IPL editions were moved out of India? There is a good chance that IPL 2024 will be moved out of India as well. Considering India is a country of 1.5 billion people, it takes huge toll on police to conduct general electios. So to reduce the stress, IPL been asked to conduct outside. Its due to precautionary measure and not bcoz India is unsafe.

During covid, why you think govt was asking people to stay indoors? Its bcoz if too many people fall sick, it will be a stress on hospitals and not bcoz doctors/hospitals are incapable of treating people. Similar was the reason why IPL was moved and perhaps will be moved next year as well.

Your agenda of comparing it with security situation in Pakistan where a cricket team was attacked with A47 won't work unfortunately.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why would I read the article when I am well aware why those 2 IPL editions were moved out of India? There is a good chance that IPL 2024 will be moved out of India as well. Considering India is a country of 1.5 billion people, it takes huge toll on police to conduct general electios. So to reduce the stress, IPL been asked to conduct outside. Its due to precautionary measure and not bcoz India is unsafe.

During covid, why you think govt was asking people to stay indoors? Its bcoz if too many people fall sick, it will be a stress on hospitals and not bcoz doctors/hospitals are incapable of treating people. Similar was the reason why IPL was moved and perhaps will be moved next year as well.

Your agenda of comparing it with security situation in Pakistan where a cricket team was attacked with A47 won't work unfortunately.

We can discuss all we want here.At the end of the day ICC will bend to BCCI because thats where the money is.

20 years back the same thing happened.

 

[nextover666666]

We can discuss all we want here.At the end of the day ICC will bend to BCCI because thats where the money is.

20 years back the same thing happened.

Yet ICC got India to pay the taxes, looks like BCCI is bending to ICC not suprised BCCI always bends down to money

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Why would I read the article when I am well aware why those 2 IPL editions were moved out of India? There is a good chance that IPL 2024 will be moved out of India as well. Considering India is a country of 1.5 billion people, it takes huge toll on police to conduct general electios. So to reduce the stress, IPL been asked to conduct outside. Its due to precautionary measure and not bcoz India is unsafe.

During covid, why you think govt was asking people to stay indoors? Its bcoz if too many people fall sick, it will be a stress on hospitals and not bcoz doctors/hospitals are incapable of treating people. Similar was the reason why IPL was moved and perhaps will be moved next year as well.

Your agenda of comparing it with security situation in Pakistan where a cricket team was attacked with A47 won't work unfortunately.

The only agenda I can see here are from andhbhakhts who remember that a team was attacked in 2009 but forget that NZ, Aus and Eng all have toured Pakistan successfully. It seems they still can't digest this fact and are stuck in 2009.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

We can discuss all we want here.At the end of the day ICC will bend to BCCI because thats where the money is.

20 years back the same thing happened.

So who is paying the taxes?

 

[Ab Fan]

South Africa is also the best venue to host IPL. Pitches won't be slow, they wil be fast and pacy. In 2009, RCB reached finals that was hosted in South Africa.

 

[Rajdeep]

The only agenda I can see here are from andhbhakhts who remember that a team was attacked in 2009 but forget that NZ, Aus and Eng all have toured Pakistan successfully. It seems they still can't digest this fact and are stuck in 2009.

Now you are changing the topic bro. You equated the attacks on SL team 2009 with IPL moving out to UAE due to elections. Its a chalk and cheese comparison which has no basis.

No one is denying that the attacks of 2009 is a thing of past and Pakistan is relatively safe now. The fact that they have successfully hosted many series is a testimony of that. Not sure why you are bringing this topic as I don't think anyone has denied it. But even if becomes the safest place on earth, Indian team won't travel there as the issue is political. BCCI cant go against GOI and ICC can't go against BCCI...so it is as it is.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Now you are changing the topic bro. You equated the attacks on SL team 2009 with IPL moving out to UAE due to elections. Its a chalk and cheese comparison which has no basis.

No one is denying that the attacks of 2009 is a thing of past and Pakistan is relatively safe now. The fact that they have successfully hosted many series is a testimony of that. Not sure why you are bringing this topic as I don't think anyone has denied it. But even if becomes the safest place on earth, Indian team won't travel there as the issue is political. BCCI cant go against GOI and ICC can't go against BCCI...so it is as it is.

Not sure? Can you please read the title of this thread and come again lol? So BCCI can't even play at a neutral venue either? Same place where they have proudly hosted IPL twice? Is that also not safe?

 

[Rajdeep]

Not sure? Can you please read the title of this thread and come again lol? So BCCI can't even play at a neutral venue either? Same place where they have proudly hosted IPL twice? Is that also not safe?

Says who? BCCI would love to play in UAE. Last 2 Asia cups were played in UAE, did BCCI object? So why would they now?

It is PCB who is not very keen of moving the tournament out of Pakistan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yet ICC got India to pay the taxes, looks like BCCI is bending to ICC not suprised BCCI always bends down to money

Its BCCI's responsibility legally and ethically to pay the taxes. Else all smaller boards lose a portion of their revenue.

But its not legally and ethically required to visit Pakistan. And won't pay a dime for that.

 

[msb314]

Says who? BCCI would love to play in UAE. Last 2 Asia cups were played in UAE, did BCCI object? So why would they now?

It is PCB who is not very keen of moving the tournament out of Pakistan.

If BCCI is happy to play in the UAE - what is then the issue of the “hybrid” model as proposed by the PCB?

 

[cricketjoshila]

If BCCI is happy to play in the UAE - what is then the issue of the “hybrid” model as proposed by the PCB?

Who will pay the extra cost of hosting the teams and all other crews in two different countries?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Some posters think BCCI paying legal taxes is bowing down to ICC.

Kuch bhi matlab.

 

[Arabian_Tiger]

Some posters think BCCI paying legal taxes is bowing down to ICC.

Kuch bhi matlab.

THIS

"India isn't visiting pakistan not in 2023 and may not in 2025.

ICC PCB or whoever else can do whatever they want."


One can argue till eternity but that wont change the above mentioned thing.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Some posters think BCCI paying legal taxes is bowing down to ICC.

Kuch bhi matlab.

So how is ICC bending to BCCI then?

 

[Ab Fan]

BCCI is the best.

 

[U$ofA]

Where did i said PCB is finding sponsors for ICC? PCB gets better sponsor for itself by having an ICC tournament hosting rights. WHether PCB finds itself a big or small sponsor, that is non of your concern.

You whine about PCB sabotaging yet enjoy BCCI sabotaging. Atleast be consistent with your rant.

Bro, you are still stuck in the revenue argument as if the revenue goes to your home. Its not about contribution, its about how to run an administration proeprly which you dont even understand as all you discuss is revenue, share, mola, as if you get money from it aswell.

ICC as a professional body needs to be controlling things and not the other way around. Like i said before, if countries starting pulling out and play politics, ICC's own game will get ruined. Hopefully, india doesnt come and Pakistan doesnt go, ICC will have to start controlling things.

Dont bother replying if its the usual immature Indian response of money, revenue, finance, mola, share. Its not you who i getting paid, its a cricket board, hence there is no point for you to flex.

ICC and professionalism cannot be used in the same sentence. They just don't go together.

ICC is not going to change. All they are interested is selling the broadcast rights every few years and pocketing that $$$ coming from India. Sure they give part of it to the boards. That is just so the boards are happy and turn a blind eye to ICC's non performance.

 

[Major]

India didn't host the 2022 Wt20. Nor did UAE. Australia did.

When UAE hosted the WT20 they were paid for hosting the event.

No court decided. PCB wanted to stall the tournament by court cases at the 11th hour. It extracted money to let go.

That's why BCCI has not signed the members participation agreement for the next ICC cycle. Indian participation in 2025 CT is not guaranteed and BCCI will likely put it into writing.

BCCI was host for the world t20 2021 for which they were unfit for. They wwere only paid fee for stadium not the profit made even though in reality they were the host. India still made money

 

[Major]

You caring or not caring doesn't matter.

The court cared when they threw the PCB case out saying Indian government permission is needed by BCCI to tour Pakistan.

India isn't visiting pakistan not in 2023 and may not in 2025.

ICC PCB or whoever else can do whatever they want.

plz present the so called law that you made up, where is this act or bill that should had been presented in your parliament if it is an existing law.

You said it was a law, please present the law here, or admit that you were lying like always.

 

[cricketjoshila]

plz present the so called law that you made up, where is this act or bill that should had been presented in your parliament if it is an existing law.

You said it was a law, please present the law here, or admit that you were lying like always.

It is an existing rule that's why court threw out PCB's case and made them pay legal charges to BCCI.

The former external affairs minister under whose tenure the BCCI letter was given to PCB stated the same during court hearings

BCCI said this, Ministers said it, court agreed to it. Whether you agree or not isn't going change it. Infact you yourself agreed that it was the reason why PCB's case was thrown out. The only person lying is you.

 

[cricketjoshila]

BCCI was host for the world t20 2021 for which they were unfit for. They wwere only paid fee for stadium not the profit made even though in reality they were the host. India still made money

a detailed email to the Apex Council members recently, the BCCI said that of the USD 7 million fee to the ECB, USD 1.5 million is for hosting, USD 5.5 million is the cost for operation and USD 400,000 is the operational cost for the six games in Muscat. The BCCI has given away the ticketing rights of the tournament in UAE and Oman to ECB and OC and expects a good turnout during the 33-day event.

You need to read. Emirates and Oman board received much more than the stadium fees.

 

[Major]

It is an existing rule that's why court threw out PCB's case and made them pay legal charges to BCCI.

The former external affairs minister under whose tenure the BCCI letter was given to PCB stated the same during court hearings

BCCI said this, Ministers said it, court agreed to it. Whether you agree or not isn't going change it. Infact you yourself agreed that it was the reason why PCB's case was thrown out. The only person lying is you.

plz show us the law which has been passed by your parliament thanks.

dont need if ands butts, need the law that you claim. Or admit you lieing.
funny how you changed from law to rule.


the floor is yours

 

[asfandyar]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] is right. The choices are pretty straightforward, there is nothing to discuss. India isn't coming over for Asia cup, we won't go there for world cup. I don't know why Pakistanis give importance to Indians, India and their cricket team? Only makes us look desperate. We have a lot going on in Pakistan that deserves our attention.

 

[CricVet]

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[cricketjoshila]

plz show us the law which has been passed by your parliament thanks.

dont need if ands butts, need the law that you claim. Or admit you lieing.
funny how you changed from law to rule.


the floor is yours

The rule was shown to the court and they accepted it. ICC accepted it. Thats what matters.

If you don't want to accept, dont. The authorities that matter have accepted it.

 

[nextover666666]

Some posters think BCCI paying legal taxes is bowing down to ICC.

Kuch bhi matlab.

Some Posters cant be taken seriously at all.... [MENTION=2099]Cricket[/MENTION]joshilla I always get a good laugh reading your nonsense.

 

[nextover666666]

Its BCCI's responsibility legally and ethically to pay the taxes. Else all smaller boards lose a portion of their revenue.

But its not legally and ethically required to visit Pakistan. And won't pay a dime for that.

Always have to bring up Pakistan, my post was about BCCI bending to ICC and BCCI always bending over to Money and making Money their god, learn how to read mate.

 

[pratiktc]

What is all this discussion of laws and rules?

India is not going to Pak for Asia Cup. This is final. Either Pak finds a neutral venue or loses the tournament.

Regarding 2025 CT, it is still 2 yrs away. Whatever call Indian government has to take on ICT participation they will take closer to tournament dates. Accordingly, PCB/ICC etc will have to adjust their tournament to ensure its viability.

 

[Major]

The rule was shown to the court and they accepted it. ICC accepted it. Thats what matters.

If you don't want to accept, dont. The authorities that matter have accepted it.

plz show us the law that you claim

thanks

 

[msb314]

What is all this discussion of laws and rules?

India is not going to Pak for Asia Cup. This is final. Either Pak finds a neutral venue or loses the tournament.

Regarding 2025 CT, it is still 2 yrs away. Whatever call Indian government has to take on ICT participation they will take closer to tournament dates. Accordingly, PCB/ICC etc will have to adjust their tournament to ensure its viability.

PCB is not going to “lose” the Asia Cup. Either BCCI accepts the hybrid model or there will be no Asia Cup.

Regarding 2025 CT - there is no adjusting.. It will happen in Pakistan with or without India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Always have to bring up Pakistan, my post was about BCCI bending to ICC and BCCI always bending over to Money and making Money their god, learn how to read mate.

BCCI paying 116mn taxes is bending over for money.



Learn to understand facts

 

[cricketjoshila]

PCB is not going to “lose” the Asia Cup. Either BCCI accepts the hybrid model or there will be no Asia Cup.

Regarding 2025 CT - there is no adjusting.. It will happen in Pakistan with or without India.

BCCI will play its own 5 nation. Its not going to lose anything.

CT is in 2025. Government may give clearance for a ICC tournament. We don't know yet. But BCCI hasnt signed the MPA yet so nothing is final.

ICC executive board will decide whether the tournament will go ahead without India and whether its financially viable to do so.

Personally i don't have a problem if ICC decides to go ahead with the CT 2025 without India.

It means the 2026 T20 WC, 2029 CT and 2031 WC can all go ahead in India without Pakistan.

 

[Major]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] still waiting for the so called no playing in Pakistan law which you claimed

 

[nextover666666]

BCCI paying 116mn taxes is bending over for money.



Learn to understand facts

Yes they are bending over for money, in the sense if they dont pay the taxes they will lose hosting right, hence they will lose out on money, I believe you need to learn to understand facts, and stop always defending BCCI, as the rate your going you will next say Ashok Dinda is a better bowler than Wasim and Waqar combined hahaha

 

[Savak]

Cricket Joshilla is in denial that the overall situation of the ICC members and the BCCI and the ICC is worse off because of the $116 million tax liability. Everyone's share is negatively impacted by $116 million as a result of the tax liability, the overall revenues of the tournament is $116 million less. BCCI is in violation of the hosting agreement they signed with the ICC. Even if BCCI foots the $116 million tax bill, as a result everyone will now have to share the total revenues minus the $116 million tax liability.

ICC should in the future avoid hosting tournaments in India until the Indian government provides guaranteed tax exemptions.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Indian government doesn't give tax exemptions. Thats why after 3 years F1 races stopped in India.

BCCI is doing what it is legally and ethically bound to do. Protect the financial rights of all ICC members. The issue with Pakistan is a different thing altogether. There the law says Indian team will not travel to Pakistan as Indian government has banned it.

Why will Indian sponsors pay money for a tournament Indian team has boycotted and Indian government has banned the team from? Are they foolish?

Go tell the ICC to function without Indian money and lose 90 percent of its revenue. But before that tell this to the ACC. Right now everyone sways to the BCCI money.

If getting sponsors is so easy ask PCB to fund the event and make up financially for the absence of India.

And i am old enough to have seen ICC bend its knee to BCCI in 2002 when Indian players refused to sign ICC ambush marketing clause and sponsors started pulling out when BCCI said it will only send a second 11. ICC tried to threaten Indian stars with a ban. Indian government and courts banned transfer of any money to ICC from India and mooted a possible ban on the ICC CT 2002 broadcast.

Result: ICC came on its knees. Indian players signed a amended clause as per their choice.

Next time learn history.

Again stop posting ** please.. there is no ethics or morality behind BCCI paying up 116 M$. Similar thing happened in 2016 t20 wc .. icc deducted Bcci share and they went into appeal why did go to appeal in icc over the issue? BCCI kept seeking extension in time to obtain exemption from INDIAN Government. There were some bitter emails exchanged between icc and bcci over this issue.. eventually bcci caved in and agreed to pay 60-116 M $ from its share of pool money to make up for refusal from Indian Government... and now everyone knows that icc put its foot down and bcci could nt do anything... there is no morality or ethics... nobody loses out 116M$ just because they care for others specially bcci

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Indian government doesn't give tax exemptions. Thats why after 3 years F1 races stopped in India.

BCCI is doing what it is legally and ethically bound to do. Protect the financial rights of all ICC members. The issue with Pakistan is a different thing altogether. There the law says Indian team will not travel to Pakistan as Indian government has banned it.

Why will Indian sponsors pay money for a tournament Indian team has boycotted and Indian government has banned the team from? Are they foolish?

Go tell the ICC to function without Indian money and lose 90 percent of its revenue. But before that tell this to the ACC. Right now everyone sways to the BCCI money.

If getting sponsors is so easy ask PCB to fund the event and make up financially for the absence of India.

And i am old enough to have seen ICC bend its knee to BCCI in 2002 when Indian players refused to sign ICC ambush marketing clause and sponsors started pulling out when BCCI said it will only send a second 11. ICC tried to threaten Indian stars with a ban. Indian government and courts banned transfer of any money to ICC from India and mooted a possible ban on the ICC CT 2002 broadcast.

Result: ICC came on its knees. Indian players signed a amended clause as per their choice.

Next time learn history.

As far Ambush Marketing saga back in 2002... ICC did nt bend over to BCCI.. the issue was between players and ICC.. BCCI washed its hands by announcing second tier squad so much sway over icc they eventually told icc to deal with Main players directly over the ambush marketing clause and asked icc to not fine them ( not punish ) after giving relaxation to Indian Players . meeting was held in London between Main Indian players and icc.. players eventually agreed to the clause.. only amendment was that clause time was reduced to 18 days before and after tournament instead of 30 days... dude you are not that old

 

[cricketjoshila]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] still waiting for the so called no playing in Pakistan law which you claimed

No playing is Pakistan is the policy. The policy is framed by the union government under constitutional power granted to it to frame foreign policy. Its mentioned in seventh schedule under the union list of the Indian constitution.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Cricket Joshilla is in denial that the overall situation of the ICC members and the BCCI and the ICC is worse off because of the $116 million tax liability. Everyone's share is negatively impacted by $116 million as a result of the tax liability, the overall revenues of the tournament is $116 million less. BCCI is in violation of the hosting agreement they signed with the ICC. Even if BCCI foots the $116 million tax bill, as a result everyone will now have to share the total revenues minus the $116 million tax liability.

ICC should in the future avoid hosting tournaments in India until the Indian government provides guaranteed tax exemptions.

If BCCI pays the taxes of its own coffers how is the ICC pool affected?

ICC will hold 3 more tournaments in India, whether you like it or not.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Again stop posting ** please.. there is no ethics or morality behind BCCI paying up 116 M$. Similar thing happened in 2016 t20 wc .. icc deducted Bcci share and they went into appeal why did go to appeal in icc over the issue? BCCI kept seeking extension in time to obtain exemption from INDIAN Government. There were some bitter emails exchanged between icc and bcci over this issue.. eventually bcci caved in and agreed to pay 60-116 M $ from its share of pool money to make up for refusal from Indian Government... and now everyone knows that icc put its foot down and bcci could nt do anything... there is no morality or ethics... nobody loses out 116M$ just because they care for others specially bcci

That decision is still pending in the court. No?

Taxes need to be paid in India. And BCCI is paying those taxes as they didn't get the tax exemptions. If they had got the exemption they wouldn't need to pay.

Paying taxes is the legal way to go.

 

[U$ofA]

Yes they are bending over for money, in the sense if they dont pay the taxes they will lose hosting right, hence they will lose out on money, I believe you need to learn to understand facts, and stop always defending BCCI, as the rate your going you will next say Ashok Dinda is a better bowler than Wasim and Waqar combined hahaha

Cricket Joshilla is in denial that the overall situation of the ICC members and the BCCI and the ICC is worse off because of the $116 million tax liability. Everyone's share is negatively impacted by $116 million as a result of the tax liability, the overall revenues of the tournament is $116 million less. BCCI is in violation of the hosting agreement they signed with the ICC. Even if BCCI foots the $116 million tax bill, as a result everyone will now have to share the total revenues minus the $116 million tax liability.

ICC should in the future avoid hosting tournaments in India until the Indian government provides guaranteed tax exemptions.

Again stop posting ** please.. there is no ethics or morality behind BCCI paying up 116 M$. Similar thing happened in 2016 t20 wc .. icc deducted Bcci share and they went into appeal ������ why did go to appeal in icc over the issue? BCCI kept seeking extension in time to obtain exemption from INDIAN Government. There were some bitter emails exchanged between icc and bcci over this issue.. eventually bcci caved in and agreed to pay 60-116 M $ from its share of pool money to make up for refusal from Indian Government... and now everyone knows that icc put its foot down and bcci could nt do anything... there is no morality or ethics... nobody loses out 116M$ just because they care for others �� specially bcci

The question to ask is, why is BCCI paying the taxes? They wouldn't be doing this if they are not gaining from this. My guess is the $116 million is a drop in the bucket compared to the gains. I bet there are some closed door, behind the scenes agreements made with the ICC that heavily benefits BCCI.

In the long run this $116 million could prove very expensive to the other boards because of deals/barters made between BCCI and ICC.

 

[cricketjoshila]

As far Ambush Marketing saga back in 2002... ICC did nt bend over to BCCI.. the issue was between players and ICC.. BCCI washed its hands by announcing second tier squad so much sway over icc they eventually told icc to deal with Main players directly over the ambush marketing clause and asked icc to not fine them ( not punish ) after giving relaxation to Indian Players . meeting was held in London between Main Indian players and icc.. players eventually agreed to the clause.. only amendment was that clause time was reduced to 18 days before and after tournament instead of 30 days... dude you are not that old

Again wrong.

BCCI said it will send a second string side. Immediately the sponsors were up in arms and not willing to pay.

ICC threatened with a ban. BCCI filed a case in thr Delhi High Court via proxies. Court ordered stoppage of all foreign remittance to ICC from India.

Members of the Indian parliament demanded a ban on the telecast of ICC tournament. The government assured them that if Indian players are banned such steps may be taken.

ICC reeling from such a retaliation, agreed to a modified contract which restricted the Indian players from advertising for a rival sponsor during the tournament only. It also restricted the usage of player images by ICC sponsors for the duration of the tournament only


The earlier rule had put restrictions from 30 days before the event till 30 days after its completion. The earlier rule allowed usage of image rights for 6 months

Thats how BCCI forced the ICC on its knees.

 

[Major]

No playing is Pakistan is the policy. The policy is framed by the union government under constitutional power granted to it to frame foreign policy. Its mentioned in seventh schedule under the union list of the Indian constitution.

first it was a law, than it was a rule now its a policy. Atleast be consistent.
Now show us this written law, rule or policy

 

[U$ofA]

first it was a law, than it was a rule now its a policy. Atleast be consistent.
Now show us this written law, rule or policy

Whatever it is, it exist and is the reality. The important thing is how to move on from here. Who is going to blink first - BCCI, PCB or ICC?