(Reports) BCCI preparing to abandon Asia Cup & host 5 nation tournament if PCB refuses neutral venue

[msb314]

PCB is saying that they will visit India for the 2023 WC only if India gives a written guarantee that they will come to Pakistan for the 2025. This is basically Pakistan trying to leverage the 2023 WC participation for their benefit.

India is to host the 2026 T20 WC, the 2029 CT and the 2031 WC, what stops PCB from leveraging their participation in these events in exchange of bilateral tours by India? Hence BCCI will not give away such a leverage to PCB. They will fight it in the ICC board room.

I get that but those events will be after 2025 CT. If PCB wants to leverage those for bilateral cricket - that will be a separate negotiation then. 10-15 years is a long time a lot can change by then..

 

[cricketjoshila]

I get that but those events will be after 2025 CT. If PCB wants to leverage those for bilateral cricket - that will be a separate negotiation then. 10-15 years is a long time a lot can change by then..

But why will BCCI want to handover that leverage to PCB, when PCB has none now?

If BCCI holds its ground and PCB is forces to decide whether they participate or don't participate, the matter is settled once and for all.

 

[Savak]

According to sports reporters, given how the Indian foreign minister belligerently attacked Bilawal Bhutto in India, the Indian government has given strict instructions to do whatever they need to do to take the Asia Cup away from Pakistan.

If Pakistan threatens to boycott the Asia Cup then India will host the Asia Cup with UAE replacing Pakistan and the revenues from the tournament will be shared equally with all the teams. BCCI has assured star sports that they will be fully compensated for the absence of Indo Pakistan contests from their end.

How long will Pakistan keep taking this crap from India?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

According to sports reporters, given how the Indian foreign minister belligerently attacked Bilawal Bhutto in India, the Indian government has given strict instructions to do whatever they need to do to take the Asia Cup away from Pakistan.

If Pakistan threatens to boycott the Asia Cup then India will host the Asia Cup with UAE replacing Pakistan and the revenues from the tournament will be shared equally with all the teams. BCCI has assured star sports that they will be fully compensated for the absence of Indo Pakistan contests from their end.

How long will Pakistan keep taking this crap from India?

might aswell take a stand now. there is no chance of reconciliation under the current regime in India.

Indian position here is very petty.

If they don't want to attend they should pull out themselves and let the other teams make the decision whether they want the asia cup to go ahead or not.

India is setting a dangerous precedent here. If countries bow to this then they could also do it to Bangladesh/Sri Lanka in the future and cite travel fatigue etc.

 

[Savak]

might aswell take a stand now. there is no chance of reconciliation under the current regime in India.

Indian position here is very petty.

If they don't want to attend they should pull out themselves and let the other teams make the decision whether they want the asia cup to go ahead or not.

India is setting a dangerous precedent here. If countries bow to this then they could also do it to Bangladesh/Sri Lanka in the future and cite travel fatigue etc.

Hope the PCB sues the ACC council via the CAS. I can understand India's refusal to tour Pakistan because of Indo Pak tensions but what justification do the likes of Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Nepal have for refusing PCB's hybrid model, not touring Pakistan for the Asia Cup and for voting to take the tournament out of Pakistan. One country ie India cannot dictate and unilaterally make decisions for the entire ACC council.

 

[IMMY69]

It's sport, a game of cricket.

Politicising the game is disgusting but we are now at that situation where Pakistan should just pull out of anything to do with India.

Play other countries, play minnows if they have to... tri series with 12-15th ranked countries.
Doesn't matter how it impacts the financial situation. Just refuse to go to India.

Draw a line under it and stick to it.

 

[Zeshan547]

It's sport, a game of cricket.

Politicising the game is disgusting but we are now at that situation where Pakistan should just pull out of anything to do with India.

Play other countries, play minnows if they have to... tri series with 12-15th ranked countries.
Doesn't matter how it impacts the financial situation. Just refuse to go to India.

Draw a line under it and stick to it.

Agree with every bit of it in an ideal world where self respect is more important than practicality, but sadly what's the point of playing cricket of we can't participate in all its most important events like WCs etc, and India can actually kinda arm twist all other countries to virtually ban Pakistan from ICC or indirectly threaten other countries if they play Pak India won't play them, So Pak has no options here other then to surrender to Indian bullying. Because in this world money always trumps principles and India due to their worlds biggest population have this leverage and there is nothing Pak can do. And there is no hope in future either because hostility between countries will only increase from here on.

 

[U$ofA]

might aswell take a stand now. there is no chance of reconciliation under the current regime in India.

Indian position here is very petty.

If they don't want to attend they should pull out themselves and let the other teams make the decision whether they want the asia cup to go ahead or not.

India is setting a dangerous precedent here. If countries bow to this then they could also do it to Bangladesh/Sri Lanka in the future and cite travel fatigue etc.

In other words, you do not want PCB to make decisions.

 

[U$ofA]

Hope the PCB sues the ACC council via the CAS. I can understand India's refusal to tour Pakistan because of Indo Pak tensions but what justification do the likes of Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Nepal have for refusing PCB's hybrid model, not touring Pakistan for the Asia Cup and for voting to take the tournament out of Pakistan. One country ie India cannot dictate and unilaterally make decisions for the entire ACC council.

I think you missed the discussions in the earlier pages. It was established that the BCCI has been brought to it's knees and ICC is running things. So what you are saying may not be true.

 

[U$ofA]

Agree with every bit of it in an ideal world where self respect is more important than practicality, but sadly what's the point of playing cricket of we can't participate in all its most important events like WCs etc, and India can actually kinda arm twist all other countries to virtually ban Pakistan from ICC or indirectly threaten other countries if they play Pak India won't play them, So Pak has no options here other then to surrender to Indian bullying. Because in this world money always trumps principles and India due to their worlds biggest population have this leverage and there is nothing Pak can do. And there is no hope in future either because hostility between countries will only increase from here on.

You too seem to have missed the discussion on BCCI being on it's knees. ICC is in control now.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

In other words, you do not want PCB to make decisions.

PCB has made a decision.

BCCI has threatened to play a counter tournament instead.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Hope the PCB sues the ACC council via the CAS. I can understand India's refusal to tour Pakistan because of Indo Pak tensions but what justification do the likes of Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Nepal have for refusing PCB's hybrid model, not touring Pakistan for the Asia Cup and for voting to take the tournament out of Pakistan. One country ie India cannot dictate and unilaterally make decisions for the entire ACC council.

ACC will simply cancel the Asia cup because of absence of India and hence no financial viability.

Other boards are then free to play wherever they want.

And you want PCB to sue other boards so that PCB has more hostilities to contend with. Good. BCCI will only thank you.

 

[cricketjoshila]

PCB has made a decision.

BCCI has threatened to play a counter tournament instead.

PCB has made a decision. So has the BCCI and the other boards. Everyone has the right to decide. No?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

PCB has made a decision. So has the BCCI and the other boards. Everyone has the right to decide. No?

Yeah they have the right to do what they like.

But I dont understand Indian stance here overall. I know you will jump up and down to justify it but this was extremely petty.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yeah they have the right to do what they like.

But I dont understand Indian stance here overall. I know you will jump up and down to justify it but this was extremely petty.

Indian stance is that they won't go to Pakistan.

PCB doesn't want to foot the bill of the extra cost of holding Asia Cup in two venues. Plus what if India reaches the final?

I have said it earlier i am saying it again. PCB needs to convince the other boards and not the BCCI.

 

[MenInG]

From a media report:

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) has received support from cricket boards of Sri Lanka and Bangladesh with regards to moving this year’s Asia Cup out of Pakistan.

According to sources, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh are willing to host the Asia Cup if it’s moved out of Pakistan.

Additionally, if Pakistan decides against playing the Asia Cup, the Asian Cricket Council (ACC) could also consider replacing the Men in Green in the event with United Arab Emirates (UAE).

Jay Shah, who is the president of ACC and secretary BCCI, has also assured the broadcasters that the losses suffered due to Pakistan’s absence will be compensated during a series involving India in the near future.

 

[MenInG]

Misbah speaking at an event:

“We all know, both Pakistanis and Indians, that everything depends on the governments of the two countries. I think the fans should play an active, positive role. Cricket fans should not be deprived of such a big game.

 

[adi_62941]

The blame of all this happening must be put on elected government of India as well as khaaki wardi of Pakistan who are the root cause and initiators of all these tensions.
We all know India and Pakistan can play in each other places if politicians dont bring their nose into sports.
Now withe hostility shown by Indian minister against Bilawal, it is quite clear that India is no mood to talk with Pakistan government on any mutual collaboration and they have dictated their foreign policy against Pakistan in recent SCO meeting.

Pakistan must play with brain rather than heart. Its a time when we need cricket. Pakistan cannot afford to skips the tournaments like asia cup and WC. Just stage asia cup in UAE and take all hosting profit. Go to india for WC and show them our courtesy. There is no any doubt doing this Pakistan will have good support from other boards for CT2025. and India will not afford to miss ICC tournament without any major major reason. Even the elections in india is near, who knows the tensions between both countries can go down.

We have to take some brainy decisions for bigger benefit

 

[light]

You guys are not understanding the reason behind this.

If India doesnt show up to pakistan for Asia Cup, Pakistan will have to boycott the world cup. Because the ICC is not intervening, they allow BCCI whatever they want to. If Pakistan boycotts the World Cup, and ICC faces losses from the potential money the could had made, than by 2025 Champions trophy, it is hoped that ICC will toughen up and make sure that all teams are properly travelling to other countries.
[MENTION=99723]boomboomcheema[/MENTION] has said.

Let's assume that you are correct and PAK does not show up to the WC. What do you as a fan and a nation accomplish from this? NOTHING! The form PAK is in now, they are probably in the race to lift the cup. Come 10 years from now, no one is going to give any care about why PAK didn't show up, in fact people will only remember who lifted the WC in 2023, that's all. ASIA CUP and Champion's trophy is nothing compared to the WC.

 

[Major]

Let's assume that you are correct and PAK does not show up to the WC. What do you as a fan and a nation accomplish from this? NOTHING! The form PAK is in now, they are probably in the race to lift the cup. Come 10 years from now, no one is going to give any care about why PAK didn't show up, in fact people will only remember who lifted the WC in 2023, that's all. ASIA CUP and Champion's trophy is nothing compared to the WC.

forget the form, forget the world cup. Winning the world cup is never certain.
What is certain is taht we are hosting champions trophy. India not coming jeopardises that. Alot of people are not understanding this issue and just attacking Sethi for no reason.

Sethi is on the right here, and if they dont act now, by the time champions trophy comes, we will be shifting that too. Why shouldnt we Pakistanis not go watch an ICC tournament in Pakistan? Why should we have to sit at home and watch al ICC encounters on TV?

This is what many overseas Pakistanis fail to understand and they keep on bashing sethi

 

[light]

forget the form, forget the world cup. Winning the world cup is never certain.
What is certain is taht we are hosting champions trophy. India not coming jeopardises that. Alot of people are not understanding this issue and just attacking Sethi for no reason.

Sethi is on the right here, and if they dont act now, by the time champions trophy comes, we will be shifting that too. Why shouldnt we Pakistanis not go watch an ICC tournament in Pakistan? Why should we have to sit at home and watch al ICC encounters on TV?

This is what many overseas Pakistanis fail to understand and they keep on bashing sethi

I am with you on your argument about watching your own team play in your own background. However, as a fan, why do you care about the political shenanigans? If you ask me, both BCCI and PCB are being stupid here. All you want to see is watch Pakistan play and represent your nation, am I not right? The world cup will be played with or without Pakistan, that's up to Pakistan to decide. India isn't helping the cause but to me it seems like one has to cave at this point. Who caves, I could care less. I watch cricket for cricket, not the politics behind the sport.

And if you're telling me to "forget about winning the World Cup", then you my friend don't think you realize why you are even supporting your own team. The point of any sport is to win the WORLD CUP/Championship. In cricket, there is nothing bigger than the 50 over world cup.

Going forward, I hope none of these 2 boards gets the right to host ASIA CUP. Should be given to SL/BD or host it in UAE.

 

[Major]

I am with you on your argument about watching your own team play in your own background. However, as a fan, why do you care about the political shenanigans? If you ask me, both BCCI and PCB are being stupid here. All you want to see is watch Pakistan play and represent your nation, am I not right? The world cup will be played with or without Pakistan, that's up to Pakistan to decide. India isn't helping the cause but to me it seems like one has to cave at this point. Who caves, I could care less. I watch cricket for cricket, not the politics behind the sport.

And if you're telling me to "forget about winning the World Cup", then you my friend don't think you realize why you are even supporting your own team. The point of any sport is to win the WORLD CUP/Championship. In cricket, there is nothing bigger than the 50 over world cup.

Going forward, I hope none of these 2 boards gets the right to host ASIA CUP. Should be given to SL/BD or host it in UAE.

you are not understanding. Hosting an ICC tournament sends a message that you can host a tournament. We will never get world cup hosting rights in futre if we dont host champions trophy.

When you get to host a torunament, you get more sponsors, your services in ground improve, your broadcasting deals get much better.

Pakistan is not at fault here.

The only way Pakistan can protest is letting one world cup go. Boo hoo if we dont play a world cup, something much bigger is at stake right now. If Pakistan lets go of the world cup only than ICC may become a bit serious with what BCCI is doing.

We end up going to the world cup, champions trophy isnt happening in Pakistan, and till 2040, Pakistan will never be made host of any ICC tournament. Even if we do get host, we would be co host, where the final would never be played in our grounds.

PCB earns less money due to these acts of BCCI. Our broadcasting deal gets sold for much less because of all this.

Why Should SL and BD get to host? Why shouldn't Pakistan get to host? You are looking this from just a viewer perspective. I am looking at this from the perspective of more sponsors and sending a message to the cricket world that we can host tournaments.

 

[Savak]

Again speculation in the media. Latest reports as per the youtube channel of a senior Pakistan sports reporter is that Sethi has not back tracked from the PCB position that the Asia Cup has to be played in Pakistan with India playing its games outside Pakistan. In order to address the logistical concerns off Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Afghanistan and co, Sethi even presented a revised itenary, schedule where all the games in Pakistan would be played in Lahore and all of India's games would be played in Dubai and he showed the logistical costs of travelling and lodging would be covered under ACC's budget and all the team's would get sufficient rest.

Based on the revised plan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan were not really able to object to it from a travelling, logistical and cost point of view. Sethi also showed the emails he received from these boards where they did not object to playing the Asia Cup in Pakistan originally and he expressed his disappointment with these countries for now back tracking under pressure from the BCCI. He also threatened that if the Asia Cup was pulled out of Pakistan, not only would the PCB pull out from the Asia Cup but also withdraw from the ACC as the purpose of the ACC was to bring the Asia countries together but the forum is proving to be a toothless body. Sethi also threatened that taking the Asia Cup away from Pakistan could have an impact on them touring India for the ODI WC in October.

Right now the Asian Cricket Council has promised to look into Sethi's revised proposal, schedule for the Asia Cup and get back to the PCB in a few weeks time.

 

[FearlessRoar]

The Asian Cricket Council has begun planning for the locations of the next four Asia Cup events

The game of cricket is also affected by the India-Pakistan political conflict and India's stubbornness. Last year, the Asia Cup was supposed to be hosted by Pakistan, but India's refusal led to the entire tournament becoming uncertain.

In this context, the Asian Cricket Council (ACC) is now planning to host the next four Asia Cup tournaments. They have sought advice from Indian broadcasters and are making plans to bid for the media rights of the event.

According to a report by cricket-related website Cricbuzz, the Asian Cricket Council aims to secure media rights deals for the next four tournaments. This tender includes four Asia Cup events, two in the 50-over format and two in the T20 format.

To avoid conflicts between Pakistan and India, the Asian Cricket Council intends to refrain from holding matches in both countries. Last year, the Asia Cup was scheduled in Pakistan, but due to India's refusal, the tournament had to be held at a neutral venue.

Possible hosts for future tournaments include Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, the United Arab Emirates, and Oman.

However, broadcasters are interested in a long-term plan. The previous media rights deal was worth around $80 million for the four editions, and the Asian Cricket Council body is expected to increase the price.


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[Flat_Track_Bully]

Possible hosts for future tournaments include Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, the United Arab Emirates, and Oman.

Screw Pakistan over council?

Pakistan should boycott Asia cup after the last debacle.

 

[PakEngFan]

Screw Pakistan over council?

Pakistan should boycott Asia cup after the last debacle.

They don't have any shame.

 

[U$ofA]

Screw Pakistan over council?

Pakistan should boycott Asia cup after the last debacle.

Several posters over several years have been posting this. But PCB keeps doing the opposite.