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[REPORTS] Mohammad Hafeez is not in Mickey Arthur's plans for the 2019 World Cup

I remember in the past he said something like he likes the more experienced players to have another string to their bow. Hafeez doesn't bowl anymore now with the ban, and Arthur's probably frustrated at that given that Hafeez's batting performance is far from stellar.

I don't know exactly where Hafeez fits in either. Sarfraz should be batting at five and Hafeez doesn't have the reflexes or form to bat top 4 anymore. That means either 6 or 7, which makes it a choice between him and Malik (and I think Arthur prefers Malik) or Fahim/Imad (or whoever allrounder plays at 7).

I personally think we play too many bowlers, and we need to strengthen our line up. A bowling allrounder at 7 isn't really needed. A batsman/batting allrounder is required. We have enough part time bowling options. And in Fahim's case, he could probably fight out the third pacer slot. But again don't think Hafeez is the option, especially when he can't bowl. Talat seems a better option.
 
If this is true. Shukar hai alhamdulilah Allah tala has accepted my dua. Now plz take Malik and azhar out of mickey bhais plans.
 
Mickey and Inzi both need to be on the same page regarding this. I feel Inzi ends up shoving a few players down the coach and captains throat. Inzi lacks critical thinking and so do our players and PCB staff.
 
What if they remove Hafeez, Malik, Azhar, and after that they introduce Butt, Kamran and Shan to the ODI team. :ashwin
 
DRsohail said:
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] he will do it or like to do or its ur theory??
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A bit of both. He is being coach for almost 2 decades now, and I can see a pattern in his Managment from SAF & AUS, PAK as well. Besides I have read lot in him. Great coach, but not for BD - not the person to manage a side dominated by spin - both with bat & ball
 
Unless he has a proper plan for number 5, a player that can propel the score to something respectable then I would say this decision is good
 
Mickey for President :yk

Time to kick out Malik and Azhar now.
 
Amazing that the coach and management have woken up to the fact that WC is nearing. If he is not in the plan, why is he in the team? Will he be dropped for the upcoming ODI series? We will have to wait and see if this report is true.
 
CadPakFan said:
Yes he is in fact, his contract with the PCB is up till the 2019 WC.
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Thank You =) I hope PCB doesnt change their minds.

There is still sometime for the board to try fresh players in place of Hafeez. Bring in new Blood, give them some game time.. prepare them for the Wc. Lets hope some gems are found.
 
giri26 said:
Amazing that the coach and management have woken up to the fact that WC is nearing. If he is not in the plan, why is he in the team? Will he be dropped for the upcoming ODI series? We will have to wait and see if this report is true.
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When IS the next ODI series?
 
We haven't played the Saffers in a while, playing them in an ODI series is long over due. Funny they never played us after we beat them in 2013.
 
yasir said:
He should have been out 10 years ago :facepalm:
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That's plain silly.... when he was bowling, he added lot of value.

His mistake was believing in his own hype and continuing to bat up the order. He should have settled for a lower order role against the older ball.
 
What's mickey's plan..... there are far too many holes to fill with this current joke line up.
 
Hamstead_joy said:
Before the World Cup they are facing England in England and South Africa in South Africa. That would be scary for our batting lineup. Hafeez is'nt a great player but neither is Malik or Azam. Arthur should be careful, I'm sure these kinds of news are being done in the media to create animosity between Hafeez and Arthur.

Hafeez is on tour right now, Arthur is not stupid to start speculation. Sick of the games Pakistani media plays fore their own favorites.. Media is also responsible for the team defeat by cooking up stories to promote division and infighting. This reporting is being done to definitely favour Shoaib Malik and Shehzad more than Hafeez or Arthur.
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Yeah Pakistan need Hafeez to teach the youngesters how to play Steyn.
 
Abdullah719 said:
According to some news floating around in the media today, Arthur and the management have decided it's time to start preparing for the World Cup next year and they are going to favour young players going forward. Due to Hafeez's bowling ban, his spot is under question and Arthur is reportedly not keen on his inclusion in the team.

Thoughts?
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About time,. this should have been done 12 years ago! :facepalm:
 
WhenSultansBowled said:
The hack should have never played for Pakistan.

In a twisted way Pakistani cricket's darkest period and Hafeez' career go hand in hand.
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Agreed hes been the symbol of mediocrity that pakistan team has produced in last decade :facepalm:
 
Hafeez doesnt deserve it before malik. If he can bowl he should be there till the 2019 world cup..
 
wished they got rid of Malik first, but I wont be surprised if Sarfaraz is kicked out, kamra akmal comes back and Malik becomes captain for world cup
 
I hope to god this is true man. Once they achieve this great achievement I hope they look to take out Shoaib Malik and Azhar Ali.
 
There is absolutely no way Pakistan can play the next World Cup with both Hafeez and Malik.
 
I think it is unfair on Hafeez if he is thrown out before Malik.
Hafeez scored 2 half-centuries against New Zealand and Malik
couldn't even make 1.
 
batfirst said:
I think it is unfair on Hafeez if he is thrown out before Malik.
Hafeez scored 2 half-centuries against New Zealand and Malik
couldn't even make 1.
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Useless half-centuries, played to save his place in the team. Malik is so incompetent, he can't even be selfish here.
 
Let's see if Hafeez gets a chance to play in these two dead rubbers and then we'll see more about the relationship with these two.
 
Great move from mickey to not allow him to bash minnow .i think the plan is clear for him he will part of squad as a 3rd opener so he won.t be first choice opener unless imam fail miserbliy he won.t be able to play.
 
Mickey for a long while has tried to get rid of him, however this won't be an easy battle because unfortunately for us Hafeez is well connected and the media isn't going to take it well.
 
topspin said:
Mickey for a long while has tried to get rid of him, however this won't be an easy battle because unfortunately for us Hafeez is well connected and the media isn't going to take it well.
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Basically it seems like Mickey has wrecked the plan which was to get Hafeez back into team playing all matches v Zimbabwe, hoping he would crack a couple of 40s and a 20 odd with bat , chip in with 1 and 2 wicket hauls, and cement his place till the World Cup. But looks to me like Mickey has an allergy to mediocre cricketers which is a condition that yours truly also suffers from unfortunately.
 
Majid Khan said:
Basically it seems like Mickey has wrecked the plan which was to get Hafeez back into team playing all matches v Zimbabwe, hoping he would crack a couple of 40s and a 20 odd with bat , chip in with 1 and 2 wicket hauls, and cement his place till the World Cup. But looks to me like Mickey has an allergy to mediocre cricketers which is a condition that yours truly also suffers from unfortunately.
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Wouldn't mind elaborating?

Just to make it clear I don't agree with Hafeez's selection in any way. Shouldn't be near the squad.
 
topspin said:
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Wouldn't mind elaborating?

Just to make it clear I don't agree with Hafeez's selection in any way. Shouldn't be near the squad.
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Simple - I oppose the 'job for life' type selection of mediocre cricketers who are NOT and DO NOT have potential to be world class , by all means try them to see what they can offer but they under no circumstances should be allowed to play international cricket for 10+ years in all forms , for a country which has the kind of raw talent that Pakistan has in cricket...
 
Majid Khan said:
Simple - I oppose the 'job for life' type selection of mediocre cricketers who are NOT and DO NOT have potential to be world class , by all means try them to see what they can offer but they under no circumstances should be allowed to play international cricket for 10+ years in all forms , for a country which has the kind of raw talent that Pakistan has in cricket...
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Couldn't agree more well put. Nepotism will unfortunately continue to be rife in Pakistan cricket sadly.
 
Mickey sending a clear message with Hafeez's non-selective.

Here's hoping he stands firm and wins this battle.
 
mak36 said:
Mickey sending a clear message with Hafeez's non-selective.

Here's hoping he stands firm and wins this battle.
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Absolutely.

Even if he plays in the last two ODIs, Mickey is showing him who is in charge and that he should be under no illusions that he is an automatic pick just because he is a senior.
 
Saj said:
Absolutely.

Even if he plays in the last two ODIs, Mickey is showing him who is in charge and that he should be under no illusions that he is an automatic pick just because he is a senior.
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Spot on, and that's exactly the way it should be.

It seems Mickey is also letting Inzi know the same (who I assume is more sympathetic to Hafeez's inclusion).
 
Imagine Hafeez’s plight: series like these have helped to sustain a truly mediocre career. He must be gutted at missing out
 
So glad this guy is made to sit and watch from the bench - shouldn't even be on the bench in fact! Should be watching from his tellie at home.

Remember the days when he was untouchable? Would go entire series nicking off, getting run out, getting others run out, chucking, getting tested, chucking again... Good times :hafeez
 
Just posting the same thing here that I added in another thread....

Here are some excerpts from an article about Hafeez published recently in a major news outlet:

They should give an explanation for such questions. If the selection was made after all due attention, then we do not expect to see the insulting treatment administered to a senior player like Hafeez.
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A player who had been representing the country in international cricket for the past 15 years should have been given at least five matches to establish his place in the team. Had he not performed throughout the series, he would have been left with no choice but to consider stepping down.
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Throughout the past few years, Hafeez has undergone a disturbing, military-level, scrutiny of his balling action. After finally getting the clearance, he was allowed to join the team only to see that the management had a different plan for him.
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We saw how a weak Zimbabwe team succumbed against the performance of Pakistan. However, watching a former captain applauding the team while behind dropped out is a deplorable sight for a cricket fan.
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In addition to being an all-rounder, Hafeez is also blessed with a solid IQ for cricket.
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Quite a campaign underway to get him 'respect'.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Just posting the same thing here that I added in another thread....

Here are some excerpts from an article about Hafeez published recently in a major news outlet:











Quite a campaign underway to get him 'respect'.
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How is it an in-form AB De Villiers retires at 34 just a year before the World Cup, but we continue to be "blessed" with 37 year old Hafeez who is well passed his prime?
 
Abdullah719 said:
Just posting the same thing here that I added in another thread....

Here are some excerpts from an article about Hafeez published recently in a major news outlet:











Quite a campaign underway to get him 'respect'.
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I remember reading articles like this about 'senior player' Javed Miandad having been treated unfairly at World Cup 1996, which you can accept given his stature and class as a batsman not just in Pakistan but recognised at the world level.. Miandad was a legend, although clearly past his best in 96.

Then we had articles like this about 'senior player' Mohammed Yusuf a decade or so later, which you can still understand in that Yusuf was a fine batsman even then, among the best in the world, and could have possibly played for a another couple of years, and for whatever non-cricketing/political reasons, he was out of the team.

And now another decade or so later, we read such articles about 'senior player' Hafeez -- who was given luxury of nearly 15 years playing in all formats for Pakistan despite repeated failures and mediocrity, he was given every opportunity to capitalise against weaker teams to cement his place and even now , is he really the Miandad of today ?
 
Majid Khan said:
I remember reading articles like this about 'senior player' Javed Miandad having been treated unfairly at World Cup 1996, which you can accept given his stature and class as a batsman not just in Pakistan but recognised at the world level.. Miandad was a legend, although clearly past his best in 96.

Then we had articles like this about 'senior player' Mohammed Yusuf a decade or so later, which you can still understand in that Yusuf was a fine batsman even then, among the best in the world, and could have possibly played for a another couple of years, and for whatever non-cricketing/political reasons, he was out of the team.

And now another decade or so later, we read such articles about 'senior player' Hafeez -- who was given luxury of nearly 15 years playing in all formats for Pakistan despite repeated failures and mediocrity, he was given every opportunity to capitalise against weaker teams to cement his place and even now , is he really the Miandad of today ?
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That aggressive media campaign (carried out by journalists from Javed's city who not only were big in newspapers but also also were influentials in all 3 cricket magazines that were produced in Pak at that time (Cricketer(urdu), Cricketer(English) and Akhbar-e-Watan and all 3 magazines were based out of Karachi) and regionislm caused Pak its best chance at winning another WC.

This is what I wrote it 2011

Bouncer said:
Miandad's farewell cost us a world cup. Any deserving ODI player would have helped Pak much much better than JM in that WC as JM was selected based on Media's continuous pressure to include him in the WC squad just so that he can "achieve a record for Pak for appearing in his 6th WC"

Why would we want a repeat of that?
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...game-but-when-and-where&p=8852438#post8852438
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And this is what I wrote in 2016 on this topic of JM's inclusion in 96WC and how it deprieved Pak from another WC.
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I am glad someone else thinks this way too. I have always believed that biggest reason for 96WC failure was JM's inclusion that destroyed the combination.

I personally would have not even favored basit who had lost the touch over a year and half prior to 96WC. I would loved to have Asif Mujtaba in the middle order, with batting line up full of strikers/stroke makers like Anwar, Sohail, Ijaz, Inzi, Malik having Mujtaba would have been a good strike rotator in the WC. Plus he was a left handed which would have helped not only with playing Anil in QF but also playing Shane if Pak were to face Aus in any knock out stage.

What happened in Bangalore is that Indian medium pacers..Venkatesh in particular found a rhythm against right handed heavy batting line up after 10 overs of Pak inning in which runs dried up a bit...which panicked Inzi and Ijaz and they went for false strokes...throughout the period between over 15-35 spinners "settled into bowling" against all the right handers...Man, would have killed to have a left handed batsman somewhere in that middle order.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...gations-of-match-fixing&p=8898146#post8898146
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I hate this bump, give me fresh hope that Professor was gone for good

Now we probably have to watch him minnowbash

I hope Murzabani takes him out
 
Hafeez should retire now out of shame.. not playing even a dead rubber. Mickey is showing who the boss is.
 
RehanG said:
Hafeez should retire now out of shame.. not playing even a dead rubber. Mickey is showing who the boss is.
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He would have been liking his lips to score moutain of runs against zim side and secure his career till 2020 t20 worldcup but mickey have just troll him
brilliantly
 
Mickey knows how to play the game. He needs to cement Asif Ali in the playing XI (and keep Hafeez out) which is why he sent Asif sent out to bat. Asif delivered the goods and scored a 22 ball fifty. Result.
 
TBH I don’t mind if he is in the squad as a cover for Asif Ali @ No 6 & that’s it , we have better options as cover for the opening spot.
 
I love this!

When was the last time Pakistan benched a senior player?

But credit to Hafeez for taking it on the chin like a champ. If this was afridi or younis khan they would have already went to the media crying about how they are heroes and should not be benched.
 
When Hafeez is selected then it's Sarfraz's fault.

When Hafeez does not play a single game, Mickey deserves all the credit.

PP logic
 
Can you imagine if Hafeez had scored that double ton instead of Fakhar? He would have guaranteed a spot for another decade.
 
It will be very interesting to ee if Hafeez plays in the 5th ODI.

If he doesn't - then the message is crystal clear for him.
 
Mickey will now select him in Asia Cup squad and then in Test squad and also for LOI squad for Aus and NZ and make him warm the bench throughout these series and tournaments, Hafeez will then be a part of 30 member preliminary squad for WC and finally be dropped from 15 man squad for WC. Mickey is playing it smart, be like Mickey
 
With the current form of our openers it would tricky to drop them. The lower order has played much and our bowling has been solid. So as a batsman or bowler, Hafeez isn't needed.
 
gazza619 said:
Can you imagine if Hafeez had scored that double ton instead of Fakhar? He would have guaranteed a spot for another decade.
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Even as woeful as this Zimbabwe attack is, they would have to start bowling under arm and that too with a tennis ball for Hafeez to get near a 200 in an ODI game.
 
Mickey arthur is the best thing to happen to Pakistan cricket since Imran khan.
 
Saj said:
It will be very interesting to ee if Hafeez plays in the 5th ODI.

If he doesn't - then the message is crystal clear for him.
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Message is crystal clear. Question is, will Hafeez be able to understand it?
 
Majid Khan said:
Even as woeful as this Zimbabwe attack is, they would have to start bowling under arm and that too with a tennis ball for Hafeez to get near a 200 in an ODI game.
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Even then he'd miss one that didn't go completely straight :))
 
Abdullah719 said:
Select him for Tests? :inzi2
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TBH I wouldn't mind that ATM as we have home series against Aus and NZ coming up

This can be a good bowling attack and lower order:
Hafeez
Shadab
Amir/Hasan
Yasir
Abbas

I doubt Hafeez will bat at 7 though
 
Very interesting scenario.

If he was injured, he would have been sent home.

Clear as day that Mickey Arthur didn't want to pick him during the series.

Food for thought for the professor.
 
Mickey has been visiting PP. Many of his decisions have been in line.

Either that or PPers are smart enough to recognize or select a team.
 
Everytime we do banghra over his non selection, he still is selected a series or two later. Let's see what happens before rejoicing too much.
 
He should retire himself , he has already harmed enough . Harris Sohail , babaar , Saud shakeel should have played much before.
 
where can you fit him top 6?
unless imam , faheem , asif ali fail very badly i dont see hafeez making in the XI with emergence of Asif Ali
Hafeez will have to sit out
 
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