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[Reports] Pakistan's FTP commitments in the 2023-27 cycle

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From a media source (subject to confirmation)

June-July 2023: Two Tests, Five ODIs, One T20I against Sri Lanka (Away)
August 2023: Three T20Is against Afghanistan (Away)
Oct/Nov 2023: ICC World Cup in India
Dec 2023/Jan 2024: Three Tests against Australia (Away)
Feb/March 2024: Three Tests, Three T20Is (Home)
May 2024: Three T20Is respectively against the Netherlands, Ireland and England (Away)
June 2024: ICC T20 World Cup in USA/West Indies
August 2024: Two Tests against Bangladesh (Home)
October 2024: Three Tests against England (Home)
November 2024: Three ODIs, Three T20Is against Australia (Away)
Nov/Dec 2024: Three ODIs, Three T20Is against Zimbabwe (Away)
Dec 2024/ Jan 2025: Two Test, three ODIs and Three T20Is against South Africa (Away)
January 2025: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against New Zealand (Away)
February 2025: Triangular series (Home)
February/March 2025: ICC Champions Trophy hosted by Pakistan.
May 2025: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against Bangladesh (Home)
August 2025: Three T20Is against Afghanistan (Away)
Sep/Oct 2025: Three T20Is and Three ODIs against Ireland (Home)
October 2025: Two Tests, Three ODIs, Three T20Is against South Africa (Home)
November 2025: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against Sri Lanka (Home)
Jan/Feb 2026: Three T20Is against Australia (Home)
Feb/March 2026: ICC T20 World Cup in India/Sri Lanka
March 2026: Three ODIs against Australia (Home)
March/April 2026: Two Tests, Three ODIs, Three T20Is against Bangladesh (Away)
April/May 2026: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against Zimbabwe (Away)
July 2026: Three Tests and Three ODIs against West Indies (Away)
Aug/Sept 2026: Three Tests against England (Away)
October 2026: Three T20Is against Sri Lanka (Home)
October 2026: Triangular series (Home)
November 2026: Two Tests against Sri Lanka (Home)
March 2027: Two Tests against New Zealand (Home)
 
MenInG said:
From a media source (subject to confirmation)

June-July 2023: Two Tests, Five ODIs, One T20I against Sri Lanka (Away)
August 2023: Three T20Is against Afghanistan (Away)
Oct/Nov 2023: ICC World Cup in India
Dec 2023/Jan 2024: Three Tests against Australia (Away)
Feb/March 2024: Three Tests, Three T20Is (Home)
May 2024: Three T20Is respectively against the Netherlands, Ireland and England (Away)
June 2024: ICC T20 World Cup in USA/West Indies
August 2024: Two Tests against Bangladesh (Home)
October 2024: Three Tests against England (Home)
November 2024: Three ODIs, Three T20Is against Australia (Away)
Nov/Dec 2024: Three ODIs, Three T20Is against Zimbabwe (Away)
Dec 2024/ Jan 2025: Two Test, three ODIs and Three T20Is against South Africa (Away)
January 2025: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against New Zealand (Away)
February 2025: Triangular series (Home)
February/March 2025: ICC Champions Trophy hosted by Pakistan.
May 2025: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against Bangladesh (Home)
August 2025: Three T20Is against Afghanistan (Away)
Sep/Oct 2025: Three T20Is and Three ODIs against Ireland (Home)
October 2025: Two Tests, Three ODIs, Three T20Is against South Africa (Home)
November 2025: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against Sri Lanka (Home)
Jan/Feb 2026: Three T20Is against Australia (Home)
Feb/March 2026: ICC T20 World Cup in India/Sri Lanka
March 2026: Three ODIs against Australia (Home)
March/April 2026: Two Tests, Three ODIs, Three T20Is against Bangladesh (Away)
April/May 2026: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against Zimbabwe (Away)
July 2026: Three Tests and Three ODIs against West Indies (Away)
Aug/Sept 2026: Three Tests against England (Away)
October 2026: Three T20Is against Sri Lanka (Home)
October 2026: Triangular series (Home)
November 2026: Two Tests against Sri Lanka (Home)
March 2027: Two Tests against New Zealand (Home)
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Feb/March 2024: Three Tests, Three T20Is (Home)

Against Which team?
 
Disappointed
What only 29 Tests.
Even Bangladesh are playing 35 test, England 42, Aus 41, Ind 38.
Plus overall WI are playing 146 , Bang 144 compared to Pakistans 133.
Disappointed with many 2 Tests home series.
Last time Wasim khan said that their home series would be atleast of 3 tests.
 
waheed_sofi said:
Disappointed
What only 29 Tests.
Even Bangladesh are playing 35 test, England 42, Aus 41, Ind 38.
Plus overall WI are playing 146 , Bang 144 compared to Pakistans 133.
Disappointed with many 2 Tests home series.
Last time Wasim khan said that their home series would be atleast of 3 tests.
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Going by this rate, it would be difficult for Babar to play 100 test, at max 90 test. Forget about Shaheen for > 70 test.
 
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waheed_sofi said:
Going by this rate, it would be difficult for Babar to play 100 test, at max 90 test. Forget about Shaheen for > 70 test.
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In 4 years, Pakistan are playing just 49 ODIs, not to mention many of these will be scrapped at last moment.
In 2011, 2013, Pakistan played more than 33 ODIS/year.
Going by this rate, Babar will play <200 ODIs (currently M89, 4400s runs) , so he will score around 8500 ODI runs.
And in 90 tests, around 7000 test runs (currently 41 tests, 3000s runs).
Overall a decent career but not great one.
He is never going to reach Younis, Inzamam, Javed, Anwar (in ODIs), or Yousuf's runs tally.
Disappointed, considering the talent and consistency he has.
 
Tests

2023: 5 Tests
2 v SL (Away)
3 v Aus (Away)

2024: 10 Tests
3 v WI (Home)
2 v Bang (Home)
3 v Eng (Home)
2 v SA (Away)


*Note: This means Pak will complete all their WTC matches by Dec 2024.

2025: 2 Tests (***?)
2 v SA (Home)

2026: 10 Tests
2 v Bang (Away)
3 v WI (Away)
3 v Eng (Away)
2 v SL (Home)
 
ODIS

2023: 15 (Assuming 10 games in WC)
5 v SL (Away)
World Cup in India

2024: 6
3 v Aus (Away)
3 v Zim (Away)

2025: 27 (Assuming 5 games in Triangular + 5 Games in CT)
3 v SA (Away)
2 v NZ (Away)
Triangular (Home)
Champions Trophy (Home)
3 v Bang (Home)
3 v Ire (Home)
3 v SA (home)
3 v SL (Home)

2026: 17 (Assuming 5 games in Triangular)
3 v Aus (Home)
3 v Bang (Away)
3 v Zim (Away)
3 v WI (Away)
Triangular (Home)
 
T20i

2023: 4
1 v SL (Away)
3 v Afg (Away)

2024: 18 (Assuming 6 games in WC)
3 v WI (Home)
3 v Netherlands, IRE and Eng (Away)
T20 WC (USA/WI)
3 v Aus
3 v Zim

2025: 21
3 v SA (Away)
3 v NZ (Away)
3 v Bang (home)
3 v Afg (Away)
3 v IRE (Home)
3 v SA (Home)
3 v SL (Home)

2026: 18 (Assuming 6 games in WC)
3 v Aus (Home)
T20 WC (Ind/SL)
3 v Bang (Away)
3 v Zim (Away)
3 v SL (Home)
 
CricketingMinds said:
ODIS

2023: 15 (Assuming 10 games in WC)
5 v SL (Away)
World Cup in India

2024: 6
3 v Aus (Away)
3 v Zim (Away)

2025: 27 (Assuming 5 games in Triangular + 5 Games in CT)
3 v SA (Away)
2 v NZ (Away)
Triangular (Home)
Champions Trophy (Home)
3 v Bang (Home)
3 v Ire (Home)
3 v SA (home)
3 v SL (Home)

2026: 17 (Assuming 5 games in Triangular)
3 v Aus (Home)
3 v Bang (Away)
3 v Zim (Away)
3 v WI (Away)
Triangular (Home)
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I think these Triangular series are T20.
 
Babar Azam is currenly 27 and has played 40 Tests.

5 More tests in this FTP (3 v Eng + 2 v NZ)

Then 29 from 2023-2027

Thats another 36

Assuming best case scenario....Babar plays ALL tests....

He will have played 76 Matches by 2027 when he is 32y Old.
 
CricketingMinds said:
Babar Azam is currenly 27 and has played 40 Tests.

5 More tests in this FTP (3 v Eng + 2 v NZ)

Then 29 from 2023-2027

Thats another 36

Assuming best case scenario....Babar plays ALL tests....

He will have played 76 Matches by 2027 when he is 32y Old.
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Still he will finish below 8000 runs.
He won't play beyond 35.
He is currently playing all three formats + PSL which is going to increase year passing.
Look at Kohli, even with his freakish Fitness he is struggling since last 3 years and has regressed.

Point is Pakistan are playing/getting less amount of cricket considering it is a 4th richest board with great history and currently playing much better cricket than WI, BAN, SA and others.
 
So another 3-0 whitewash for Pakistan in Dec 2023 / Jan 2024. :batman:
 
CricketingMinds said:
Tests

2023: 5 Tests
2 v SL (Away)
3 v Aus (Away)

2024: 10 Tests
3 v WI (Home)
2 v Bang (Home)
3 v Eng (Home)
2 v SA (Away)


*Note: This means Pak will complete all their WTC matches by Dec 2024.

2025: 2 Tests (***?)
2 v SA (Home)

2026: 10 Tests
2 v Bang (Away)
3 v WI (Away)
3 v Eng (Away)
2 v SL (Home)
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2 tests in 2025 is mad, im guessing theyll schedule a 2 test series in zim before going to SA. and maybe a test against ireland when they go for the odi tour. 5 tests is still pretty poor.
 
Pakistan Want To Host More Tri-series Events to Generate Revenue in New FTP: PCB Sources

Pakistan Want To Host More Tri-series Events to Generate Revenue in New FTP: PCB Sources

PTI

Last Updated: JULY 20, 2022, 23:34 IST

Karachi

A Pakistan Cricket Board source said on Wednesday that in the new FTP, which will be finalised at the ICC chief executive's meeting next week, Pakistan has included two home tri-series.

The Pakistan Cricket Board has included two tri-series involving Australia and England at home in their Future Tours Program, which is set to run from 2023 to 2027.

A Pakistan Cricket Board source said on Wednesday that in the new FTP, which will be finalised at the ICC chief executive’s meeting next week, Pakistan has included two home tri-series.

“Pakistan has taken the stance that since it will not be playing India in any bilateral series in the new FTP cycle it wants to host more tri-series events at home to generate revenue," the source said.

He said that in the new FTP, Pakistan would be playing fewer Tests compared to other countries.

“Bangladesh and West Indies have more matches because they will play India several times in the new FTP while Pakistan will not."

The source said another issue which PCB has raised was that top three cricket-playing nations — India, Australia and England — all have scheduled five-Test series against each other in the new FTP while other sides will be playing mainly two, three or in some cases four Test series.

“Eight five percent of the new FTP is final and Pakistan will play a total of 133 international games between 2023 and 2027, including 12 home series against Australia, England, New Zealand," he added.

The source said that Pakistan will play a minimum of 29 Tests, 49 ODIs and 55 T20 internationals in the new cycle but matches might increase as well at the time of finalisation of the FTP.

Link: https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...e-revenue-in-new-ftp-pcb-sources-5593681.html
 
How many tests will West Indies play or South Africa compared to Pakistan's.
 
How can we blame IPL for ruining cricket when we are complicit ourselves? Tests are the purest form of the game yet we are putting it as a lower priority to making money.
 
The 2 Test series agains Bangladesh and Sri Lanka make sense. They are not profitable. They definitely need 3 Tests at home and away against all SENA countries
 
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waheed_sofi said:
Disappointed
What only 29 Tests.
Even Bangladesh are playing 35 test, England 42, Aus 41, Ind 38.
Plus overall WI are playing 146 , Bang 144 compared to Pakistans 133.
Disappointed with many 2 Tests home series.
Last time Wasim khan said that their home series would be atleast of 3 tests.
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My money is on less than 29. There is a good chance the WI tests will be cut down to 2. Equally good chance of BD series getting cut to 1 test. T20's will be added in their place.
 
Rana said:
The 2 Test series agains Bangladesh and Sri Lanka make sense. They are not profitable. They definitely need 3 Tests at home and away against all SENA countries
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High probability of BD test being just 1.

Also, it is a stretch calling two tests a series.
 
Wasim said we were doing away with 2 test series if I recall correctly. It seems we are back to that nonsense.

Less tests than even BD. This is a a travesty and shouldn't be acceptable.
 
I think more cricket will be squeezed in, PCB should be aware of the shortage of test cricket for Pakistan.
 
If Pakistan was playing India, number of tests would have been higher. We are the only country that doesn't get to play India
 
That's downright pathetic. We are wasting the peak years of our best players by not playing enough tests. Some of them have serious potential to be greats but with so few tests, we are robbing them.

We then complain why don't we have bowlers with 200 wickets, batsmen with 7000 runs etc. Well, the opportunities are meagre. 4 peak years are gone and they would've played twenty something tests.
 
Marooned said:
That's downright pathetic. We are wasting the peak years of our best players by not playing enough tests. Some of them have serious potential to be greats but with so few tests, we are robbing them.

We then complain why don't we have bowlers with 200 wickets, batsmen with 7000 runs etc. Well, the opportunities are meagre. 4 peak years are gone and they would've played twenty something tests.
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What do you mean "we are robbing them"? You do know Pak has almost zero influence in dictating the FTP, right?
 
PCB should try to convince South Africa & New Zealand to convert 2 match series into a 3 tests series. It will increase 4 tests in the cycle.

Apart from that, they should negotiate with Ireland to play short series of 1 test, 3 odis etc. both home and away. This way we can further add 2 tests.

In this way PCB can easily play around 35 test matches.
 
I have just noticed that there is no home series against Australia in the next cycle.

Since there are no more security concerns, Pakistan should request Australia for a home series around 2026/27. It can further add 3 test matches.
 
This is just a provisional plan isn't it? It is not final - hopefully there is still work going on. I agree with the above posters who say too many two test series. Come on, add a third test to those series.
 
CricketingMinds said:
Tests

2023: 5 Tests
2 v SL (Away)
3 v Aus (Away)

2024: 10 Tests
3 v WI (Home)
2 v Bang (Home)
3 v Eng (Home)
2 v SA (Away)


*Note: This means Pak will complete all their WTC matches by Dec 2024.

2025: 2 Tests (***?)
2 v SA (Home)

2026: 10 Tests
2 v Bang (Away)
3 v WI (Away)
3 v Eng (Away)
2 v SL (Home)
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2 tests in 2025? Surely that can't be right. Would be absurd on PCB's part if they agreed to that.
 
2 tests in 2025 would be an absolute farce beyond any words.

They absolutely must be working on this, no way can this happen.
 
Babeikh said:
This is just a provisional plan isn't it? It is not final - hopefully there is still work going on. I agree with the above posters who say too many two test series. Come on, add a third test to those series.
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Seems to be but depends on how badly PCB fight to get it changed
 
I agree with the general sentiment that these are too few tests. But I am glad that atleast we are playing far more 3 match test series than the current FTP. Let's be real, no way we are playing a 5 match series against any team. But atleast we have 3 match series against Australia, England, West Indies. Would have preferred 3 match series against NZ and South Africa too but I don't think their boards are interested in that.

Most boards seem more interested in maximizing their revenue from T20I series. So now I guess we will be getting 5 match T20I series on a regular basis, which (beyond a commercial stand-point) is an even more ridiculous idea than 5 match ODI series.

PCB also seem keen on the idea of more triangular series, which I like. Been a long time since multiple team series used to be a regular thing. Infact that's possibly the only way to make an ODI series with more than 3 matches matter.
 
Rana said:
The 2 Test series agains Bangladesh and Sri Lanka make sense. They are not profitable. They definitely need 3 Tests at home and away against all SENA countries
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As if Pakistan test tours are profitable for all SENA countries.
 
From the ICC:

The ICC Board approved both the men’s and women’s FTP from 2023 to 2027 and these will be published in the coming days.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
As if Pakistan test tours are profitable for all SENA countries.
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Who are you to say they are not? If they are not then they wouldn’t bother inviting us like they do every other year.

Indians can’t sell out a stadium in West Indies and hardly had any fans in the away series to England this summer.
 
Rana said:
Who are you to say they are not? If they are not then they wouldn’t bother inviting us like they do every other year.

Indians can’t sell out a stadium in West Indies and hardly had any fans in the away series to England this summer.
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They are not because the respective boards said so. A Google search will help you.

They invite other teams because they cant invite the same team every year.

India hardly had any fans in England, yet according to ECB, their only two profitable years are when India tours or when there is the Ashes.

https://www.insidesport.in/ecb-eyes-india-tour-ashes-to-strengthen-finances-0323052018/

Same is the case for Australia. As you were very much involved in posting in threads during the last India tour, i hope you remember the posts about the financial aspects of India touring Australia.

India cannot sell out a stadium, yet WI makes most money when India tours.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/we-make-most-money-when-team-india-comes-to-play-it-s-our-biggest-income-stream-jamaica-cricket-president-101652785444761-amp.html
 
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Rana said:
Who are you to say they are not? If they are not then they wouldn’t bother inviting us like they do every other year.

Indians can’t sell out a stadium in West Indies and hardly had any fans in the away series to England this summer.
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Pakistan tours are not profitable even for the ECB, buddy. Let alone the likes of Australia, SA , NZ etc.

Having fans does not mean its profitable . Indian fans pay enough to keep Indian tours profitable as evidenced by broadcast deals.

You can just be honest and say you don't want to watch Pakistan play BD or SL. If profitability is the metric, then you should barely play any test cricket at all.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Pakistan tours are not profitable even for the ECB, buddy. Let alone the likes of Australia, SA , NZ etc.

Having fans does not mean its profitable . Indian fans pay enough to keep Indian tours profitable as evidenced by broadcast deals.

You can just be honest and say you don't want to watch Pakistan play BD or SL. If profitability is the metric, then you should barely play any test cricket at all.
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So the ECB should have cancelled the Pakistan series in 2020 instead of begging us to save their summer if we are not profitable to them.

Stop spreading nonsense
 
Rana said:
So the ECB should have cancelled the Pakistan series in 2020 instead of begging us to save their summer if we are not profitable to them.

Stop spreading nonsense
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You are not profitable and ECB has said that in the past. For them only Ashes and India tour are profitable.

https://www.insidesport.in/ecb-eyes-india-tour-ashes-to-strengthen-finances-0323052018/

No revenue in 2020 is better than some revenue to decrease the losses..

Start accepting the facts. Pakistan team is not a big revenue earner.
 
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cricketjoshila said:
You are not profitable and ECB has said that in the past. For them only Ashes and India tour are profitable.

https://www.insidesport.in/ecb-eyes-india-tour-ashes-to-strengthen-finances-0323052018/

No revenue in 2020 is better than some revenue to decrease the losses..

Start accepting the facts. Pakistan team is not a big revenue earner.
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Pakistan team has been touring England frequently nonetheless in the past few years. They don’t mind having us here more often than not. Do you have an issue with that?
 
Pakistan have a very large population so it is still going to get plenty of viewings on the broadcasts. It's hard to know unless we get exact numbers and more concrete information regarding revenue generated from each country.

Pakistan has been a middling to below average team for a pretty long time though so that likely don't help with how much interest a Pakistan team coming over generates or how much broadcasts are willing to pay for those tours.
 
Rana said:
Pakistan team has been touring England frequently nonetheless in the past few years. They don’t mind having us here more often than not. Do you have an issue with that?
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They have all other teams too. Just that except India and Australia rest of the tours are not profitable. Thats what [MENTION=113824]Nikhil_cric[/MENTION] said but you called that nonsense.
 
Nasty Naz said:
Pakistan have a very large population so it is still going to get plenty of viewings on the broadcasts. It's hard to know unless we get exact numbers and more concrete information regarding revenue generated from each country.

Pakistan has been a middling to below average team for a pretty long time though so that likely don't help with how much interest a Pakistan team coming over generates or how much broadcasts are willing to pay for those tours.
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Very large population doesn't always convert to revenue. Pakistan's broadcast revenue from its own domestic rights isnt a lot.


For example PSL broadcast deal is worth 12 million a year. Not a big deal compared to IPL BBL or the Hundred. CSA league has yet to announce their broadcast deal


India Australia England all have billion dollar plus broadcast deals.
 
cricketjoshila said:
They have all other teams too. Just that except India and Australia rest of the tours are not profitable. Thats what [MENTION=113824]Nikhil_cric[/MENTION] said but you called that nonsense.
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Because it is nonsense and it is driven by anti-pakistan rhetoric which is always nonsense if it comes from a particular place

If the Pakistan visit does not financially benefit the ECB, they would have simply cancelled the 2020 series when covid was rampant in the UK. But you will not have an answer to that

Nor will you be able to explain why Pakistan has toured England so many times since the 2016-2021 mark playing numerous ODIs, T20s and Tests if the visit isn’t financially beneficial to them. I don’t see West Indies, Sri Lanka, South Africa, Bangladesh or New Zealand being invited as much as Pakistan have been invited in recent history to England

So I suggest that you do not expose your inner hate and jealousy towards Pakistan based on nothing and google articles that don’t give the actual picture
 
Rana said:
Because it is nonsense and it is driven by anti-pakistan rhetoric which is always nonsense if it comes from a particular place

If the Pakistan visit does not financially benefit the ECB, they would have simply cancelled the 2020 series when covid was rampant in the UK. But you will not have an answer to that

Nor will you be able to explain why Pakistan has toured England so many times since the 2016-2021 mark playing numerous ODIs, T20s and Tests if the visit isn’t financially beneficial to them. I don’t see West Indies, Sri Lanka, South Africa, Bangladesh or New Zealand being invited as much as Pakistan have been invited in recent history to England

So I suggest that you do not expose your inner hate and jealousy towards Pakistan based on nothing and google articles that don’t give the actual picture
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There is a clear statement from the ECB spokesperson that tours other than India and Australia are not profitable. Its the ECBs statement not mine.

Why is it anti pakistan? This statement means tours by SA PAK NZ WI SL etc are not profitable. Pakistan is just one amongst them.

England also hosted WI during 2020.

How difficult it is to understand that some revenue is better than zero revenue. If england had not hosted pakistan and WI in 2020, it would mean zero revenue while their fixed expenses remained. Pakistan and WI tours though not profitable bring some revenue to offset the expenses and rest they draw from their reserves.

How are these reserves formed? From excess revenue they generate the expenses when India and Australia tour.

Did you get your answer?

May be because pakistan was free to tour? They can't invite Australia and India every year. So they have to fill the gaps.

I suggest you accept the reality that based on the statement of ECB spokesperson. Except India and England rest of the tours are not profitable. Its not pakistan specific.
 
cricketjoshila said:
There is a clear statement from the ECB spokesperson that tours other than India and Australia are not profitable. Its the ECBs statement not mine.

Why is it anti pakistan? This statement means tours by SA PAK NZ WI SL etc are not profitable. Pakistan is just one amongst them.

England also hosted WI during 2020.

How difficult it is to understand that some revenue is better than zero revenue. If england had not hosted pakistan and WI in 2020, it would mean zero revenue while their fixed expenses remained. Pakistan and WI tours though not profitable bring some revenue to offset the expenses and rest they draw from their reserves.

How are these reserves formed? From excess revenue they generate the expenses when India and Australia tour.

Did you get your answer?

May be because pakistan was free to tour? They can't invite Australia and India every year. So they have to fill the gaps.

I suggest you accept the reality that based on the statement of ECB spokesperson. Except India and England rest of the tours are not profitable. Its not pakistan specific.
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You keep saying ‘maybe this and maybe that’. You and your mates here do not really have a clue do you?

‘Some revenue is better than no revenue’

So what is it? They are still not profitable? Just accept the fact that International cricket isn’t just big 3, as you have been trying to tell everyone for the past 6-7 years or so.

It hurts you to realise that Pak fans do not want 3 match series against SL, WI and Bangladesh but want 3 match series or more against the top teams. Why are you and Nikhil_cric burning at this thought?
 
cricketjoshila said:
There is a clear statement from the ECB spokesperson that tours other than India and Australia are not profitable. Its the ECBs statement not mine.

Why is it anti pakistan? This statement means tours by SA PAK NZ WI SL etc are not profitable. Pakistan is just one amongst them.

England also hosted WI during 2020.

How difficult it is to understand that some revenue is better than zero revenue. If england had not hosted pakistan and WI in 2020, it would mean zero revenue while their fixed expenses remained. Pakistan and WI tours though not profitable bring some revenue to offset the expenses and rest they draw from their reserves.

How are these reserves formed? From excess revenue they generate the expenses when India and Australia tour.

Did you get your answer?

May be because pakistan was free to tour? They can't invite Australia and India every year. So they have to fill the gaps.

I suggest you accept the reality that based on the statement of ECB spokesperson. Except India and England rest of the tours are not profitable. Its not pakistan specific.
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Also what reality of ECB spokesperson? The one who travelled to Pakistan to apologise and add two more T20s for the November tour?
 
Rana said:
You keep saying ‘maybe this and maybe that’. You and your mates here do not really have a clue do you?

‘Some revenue is better than no revenue’

So what is it? They are still not profitable? Just accept the fact that International cricket isn’t just big 3, as you have been trying to tell everyone for the past 6-7 years or so.

It hurts you to realise that Pak fans do not want 3 match series against SL, WI and Bangladesh but want 3 match series or more against the top teams. Why are you and Nikhil_cric burning at this thought?
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Revenue and profits are not the same thing.

It doesn't only matter what pakistan fans want, the other side got to want it too. Apparently they don't because the other boards make losses.

The only one clueless here is you, because despite a clear statement by ECB to the contrary, you think pakistan team's tour to England is profitable.

PCB's own chairman has stated

The PCB gets 50 percent of its funding from the ICC. The ICC conducts tournaments and the income generated from them is distributed among its member boards,” Raja told the panel.

“Now, 90 percent of the ICC funding is generated from the Indian market. In other words, Indian business houses are running Pakistan cricket. If tomorrow, the Indian Prime Minister decides that they will not fund Pakistan cricket, there’s a possibility that the PCB can collapse.”
 
Rana said:
Also what reality of ECB spokesperson? The one who travelled to Pakistan to apologise and add two more T20s for the November tour?
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The reality that pakistan's tour to England are not profitable for ECB.

That has nothing to do with English team not touring pakistan.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Revenue and profits are not the same thing.

It doesn't only matter what pakistan fans want, the other side got to want it too. Apparently they don't because the other boards make losses.

The only one clueless here is you, because despite a clear statement by ECB to the contrary, you think pakistan team's tour to England is profitable.

PCB's own chairman has stated

The PCB gets 50 percent of its funding from the ICC. The ICC conducts tournaments and the income generated from them is distributed among its member boards,” Raja told the panel.

“Now, 90 percent of the ICC funding is generated from the Indian market. In other words, Indian business houses are running Pakistan cricket. If tomorrow, the Indian Prime Minister decides that they will not fund Pakistan cricket, there’s a possibility that the PCB can collapse.”
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How does any of this still negate the fact that ECB have been inviting Pakistan frequently in the past 6-7 years? That wouldn’t happen if the issue of profit/revenue would have been the case.

Out of all the non big 3 sides, Pakistan has repeatedly been invited to England. Not NZ, not SA, not SL, not Bangladesh and not WI. So stop pigeon holing Pakistan with the other ICC member nations regardless of statements made by officials here and there.
 
Rana said:
How does any of this still negate the fact that ECB have been inviting Pakistan frequently in the past 6-7 years? That wouldn’t happen if the issue of profit/revenue would have been the case.

Out of all the non big 3 sides, Pakistan has repeatedly been invited to England. Not NZ, not SA, not SL, not Bangladesh and not WI. So stop pigeon holing Pakistan with the other ICC member nations regardless of statements made by officials here and there.
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How does inviting other teams negate the fact that ECB has said that all tours barring India and Ashes are not profitable? Are tou saying ECB doesn't know its own finances?

Is pakistan being relatively free doing the English summer? No IPL etc a factor?No india series?

How many tests are pakistan going to play in england in the next FTP? How many tests they played in england in the last FTP? How many ODIs and T20IS in this FTP compared to last one?

Pakistan itself, by the admission of its chairman is dependent on ICC for 50 per cent of its revenue. There is the big 3 and then the rest. Thats the truth.

Pakistan and PCB are not some kind of financial giant in cricket thats the hard truth.
 
Saj said:
From the ICC:

The ICC Board approved both the men’s and women’s FTP from 2023 to 2027 and these will be published in the coming days.
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Do you have any inside news. Did PCB succeed in getting few more test matches or not. Above mentioned FTP has only 29 tests, which is disappointing I would say.
 
MenInG said:
From a media source (subject to confirmation)

June-July 2023: Two Tests, Five ODIs, One T20I against Sri Lanka (Away)
August 2023: Three T20Is against Afghanistan (Away)
Oct/Nov 2023: ICC World Cup in India
Dec 2023/Jan 2024: Three Tests against Australia (Away)
Feb/March 2024: Three Tests, Three T20Is (Home)
May 2024: Three T20Is respectively against the Netherlands, Ireland and England (Away)
June 2024: ICC T20 World Cup in USA/West Indies
August 2024: Two Tests against Bangladesh (Home)
October 2024: Three Tests against England (Home)
November 2024: Three ODIs, Three T20Is against Australia (Away)
Nov/Dec 2024: Three ODIs, Three T20Is against Zimbabwe (Away)
Dec 2024/ Jan 2025: Two Test, three ODIs and Three T20Is against South Africa (Away)
January 2025: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against New Zealand (Away)
February 2025: Triangular series (Home)
February/March 2025: ICC Champions Trophy hosted by Pakistan.
May 2025: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against Bangladesh (Home)
August 2025: Three T20Is against Afghanistan (Away)
Sep/Oct 2025: Three T20Is and Three ODIs against Ireland (Home)
October 2025: Two Tests, Three ODIs, Three T20Is against South Africa (Home)
November 2025: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against Sri Lanka (Home)
Jan/Feb 2026: Three T20Is against Australia (Home)
Feb/March 2026: ICC T20 World Cup in India/Sri Lanka
March 2026: Three ODIs against Australia (Home)
March/April 2026: Two Tests, Three ODIs, Three T20Is against Bangladesh (Away)
April/May 2026: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against Zimbabwe (Away)
July 2026: Three Tests and Three ODIs against West Indies (Away)
Aug/Sept 2026: Three Tests against England (Away)
October 2026: Three T20Is against Sri Lanka (Home)
October 2026: Triangular series (Home)
November 2026: Two Tests against Sri Lanka (Home)
March 2027: Two Tests against New Zealand (Home)
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Rameez should shut up an dpay more attention to FTP, it is overloaded with ODI's and light on tests. Whats with cop out of a lot of series with 2 tests only?
 
Kaddy said:
Do you have any inside news. Did PCB succeed in getting few more test matches or not. Above mentioned FTP has only 29 tests, which is disappointing I would say.
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Nothing official as yet from either PCB or ICC.
 
Ramiza Raja speaking in an interview

"There weren't any big decisions in this meeting as mostly associate members were present - But yes, increasing leagues matter was discussed and we raised concerns over it. This has now become a serious business and ICC will give paper [written assurity] on it. Because FTP has been squeezed due to the increasing number of leagues"

"There is complete homework behind FTP finalisation. It's not something done overnight. We had a look at it and I think two-match Test series should be converted into three-match. And, we are fighting for it, soon you will hear good news"
 
MenInG said:
Ramiza Raja speaking in an interview

"There weren't any big decisions in this meeting as mostly associate members were present - But yes, increasing leagues matter was discussed and we raised concerns over it. This has now become a serious business and ICC will give paper [written assurity] on it. Because FTP has been squeezed due to the increasing number of leagues"

"There is complete homework behind FTP finalisation. It's not something done overnight. We had a look at it and I think two-match Test series should be converted into three-match. And, we are fighting for it, soon you will hear good news"
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Hopefully it's not just talk, but it's atleast good to hear they are fighting for more tests. We desperately need more tests.

I think we, as a team have a lot to offer to test cricket provided we get our fair share of games. Surely, we should be playing more than bdesh, lanka and WI.
 
PCB should be pushing for all their home test series to be 3 test match series. If away series end up being less then so be it, pakistan should try and maximize games at home. Series during winter should be geared towards 3 test matches series / 3 test match series and in between have some sorted of traingular odi or T20 series.
 
Kaddy said:
Do you have any inside news. Did PCB succeed in getting few more test matches or not. Above mentioned FTP has only 29 tests, which is disappointing I would say.
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29 Tests is nowhere near what it should be.

It seems that too many countries are prioritising T20Is over Tests.
 
Busy time for Pakistan cricket - coming right up!

The T20I series against the second-ranked side, England, will launch Pakistan’s bumper international season.

Following the September and December matches against England, Pakistan will host New Zealand twice – first for two Tests and three ODIs in December/January and then in April for five ODIs and five T20Is – West Indies for three T20Is in late January and finally the 50-over ACC Asia Cup.

Complete schedule of England Test series as well as New Zealand and the West Indies series will be announced in due course.

Apart from five Tests, eight ODIs and 15 T20Is in the 2022-23 season, Pakistan will also stage 187 men’s domestic matches in six senior competitions, 33 HBL Pakistan Super League 2023 fixtures and 19 Pakistan Junior League 2022 games.
 
What an exciting home season it is going to be. Happy to see all these ODI's scheduled vs NZ as well.
 
@Saj

any news on new cycle list for pakistan.
 
MenInG said:
From a media source (subject to confirmation)

June-July 2023: Two Tests, Five ODIs, One T20I against Sri Lanka (Away)
August 2023: Three T20Is against Afghanistan (Away)
Oct/Nov 2023: ICC World Cup in India
Dec 2023/Jan 2024: Three Tests against Australia (Away)
Feb/March 2024: Three Tests, Three T20Is (Home)
May 2024: Three T20Is respectively against the Netherlands, Ireland and England (Away)
June 2024: ICC T20 World Cup in USA/West Indies
August 2024: Two Tests against Bangladesh (Home)
October 2024: Three Tests against England (Home)
November 2024: Three ODIs, Three T20Is against Australia (Away)
Nov/Dec 2024: Three ODIs, Three T20Is against Zimbabwe (Away)
Dec 2024/ Jan 2025: Two Test, three ODIs and Three T20Is against South Africa (Away)
January 2025: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against New Zealand (Away)
February 2025: Triangular series (Home)
February/March 2025: ICC Champions Trophy hosted by Pakistan.
May 2025: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against Bangladesh (Home)
August 2025: Three T20Is against Afghanistan (Away)
Sep/Oct 2025: Three T20Is and Three ODIs against Ireland (Home)
October 2025: Two Tests, Three ODIs, Three T20Is against South Africa (Home)
November 2025: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against Sri Lanka (Home)
Jan/Feb 2026: Three T20Is against Australia (Home)
Feb/March 2026: ICC T20 World Cup in India/Sri Lanka
March 2026: Three ODIs against Australia (Home)
March/April 2026: Two Tests, Three ODIs, Three T20Is against Bangladesh (Away)
April/May 2026: Three ODIs and Three T20Is against Zimbabwe (Away)
July 2026: Three Tests and Three ODIs against West Indies (Away)
Aug/Sept 2026: Three Tests against England (Away)
October 2026: Three T20Is against Sri Lanka (Home)
October 2026: Triangular series (Home)
November 2026: Two Tests against Sri Lanka (Home)
March 2027: Two Tests against New Zealand (Home)
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from oct 24 to Mar 27, Pakistan will only play 16 Tests pathetic , the main reason Pakistan cricket is in decline.
 
So Pakistan are playing just 3 test matches in the entire 2025?

2nd test vs SA away (1st test end of 2024), then 2 tests at home vs SA

Absolute shambolic schedule
 
There is market for Test cricket in Pakistan as evident by the last two games of Eng Series where pitches made the game interesting, its the only way for PCB to make$$$$ improve tour team , get good broadcast deals and sponsors.
 
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