[Reports] Shahid Afridi to address people in Indian Kashmir via telephone on Friday

[MenInG]

Reports on social media saying that Shahid Afridi will address people via telephone after Friday Prayers at Historic Jamia Masjid Srinagar.

Will the Indian Govt Allow it? Is it a wise thing to do from Afridi?

 

[Hitman]

No way will the Indian Govt allow it, not a chance.

 

[JaDed]

It makes sense/ or is is wise if he wants to join politics further down the line.

Don't think the GOI ll allow though, he should probably go live on fb or YouTube and someone should project that in Kashmir as a workaround.

 

[troodon]

May be he can send a recorded Video to cheer up separatists and his fans who adore him.

GOI will never allow his telephonic message.

 

[Varun]

Serious question - is Afridi planning to take a leaf from Imran Khan's book and join politics?

 

[Mian]

Serious question - is Afridi planning to take a leaf from Imran Khan's book and join politics?

Let's see if he has any patience for that because Imran (with recent world cup, charisma fame and newly built free cancer hospital) had to wait 6 years after entering politics to win one seat for his party and 17 years to make any difference at national level with his party. Other Pak cricketers tried politics failed and left without showing any patience including Sarfaraz Nawaz (he even joined altaf bhai party after bhutto), Aamir Sohail (wasin PMLN until Sethi was made head of PCB)

 

[PakLFC]

Can he not Skype them!?

 

[Greenstorm]

It makes sense/ or is is wise if he wants to join politics further down the line.

Don't think the GOI ll allow though, he should probably go live on fb or YouTube and someone should project that in Kashmir as a workaround.

Serious question - is Afridi planning to take a leaf from Imran Khan's book and join politics?

Even if he wants to join politics, anti India stance will not give him any considerable votes in Pakistan. People here consider lot of other things.

 

[Third_Umpire]

Lala taking trolling to the next level. Tweeting was fine, but addressing people on the phone is another thing altogether. What will he even say?

 

[JaDed]

Even if he wants to join politics, anti India stance will not give him any considerable votes in Pakistan. People here consider lot of other things.

Pro Kashmiri might be different from anti India, plus you make it sound like Pakistani voters are much more sophisticated,if that was the case PML and PPP wouldn't be there and joining politics with marketability which LALA is ,not saying he LL be a PM or CM IMMEDIATELY.

 

[Varun]

Can he not Skype them!?

Skype did not exist in 1996.

 

[ManFan]

Lala is smart.

Whether or not he says anything or goes through with this at all, he has garnered a substantial following in Kashmir from a few tweets.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] please rephrase to Indian occupied Kashmir or Kashmir valley

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Where’s the source?!

 

[gani999]

Pro Kashmiri might be different from anti India, plus you make it sound like Pakistani voters are much more sophisticated,if that was the case PML and PPP wouldn't be there and joining politics with marketability which LALA is ,not saying he LL be a PM or CM IMMEDIATELY.

I actually think that Pakistani voters are a lot more sophisticated than people give them credit for.

Were this not to be the case, they would have voted blindly for Imran Khan, who was a national legend with demi-god status. They did not. They chose Sharif, who, despite being corrupt, was a better bet for the country's economy than the PPP or anyone else.

And I don't think that a large number of Pakistanis are going to be swayed by anti-India rhetoric. They may have sympathy for Kashmiris, but are definitely more worried about their own country and lives first.

Shahid Afridi is barking up the wrong tree if he thinks that his India- provoking tweets are going to get him votes in Pakistan. But he isn't the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, is he? What else can one expect from him?

Are any of our Pakistani friends in agreement?

 

[PakLFC]

Skype did not exist in 1996.

But he wants to talk tomorrow!

 

[world cup captain]

Let's see if democracy avails in India as claimed by some people in this thread below.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?271513-Shoes-hurled-at-Du-Plessis-Jadeja-in-Chennai

 

[Slog]

I actually think that Pakistani voters are a lot more sophisticated than people give them credit for.

Were this not to be the case, they would have voted blindly for Imran Khan, who was a national legend with demi-god status. They did not. They chose Sharif, who, despite being corrupt, was a better bet for the country's economy than the PPP or anyone else.

And I don't think that a large number of Pakistanis are going to be swayed by anti-India rhetoric. They may have sympathy for Kashmiris, but are definitely more worried about their own country and lives first.

Shahid Afridi is barking up the wrong tree if he thinks that his India- provoking tweets are going to get him votes in Pakistan. But he isn't the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, is he? What else can one expect from him?

Are any of our Pakistani friends in agreement?

Anti Indian politics gets you very little leverage in Pakistan. You can get many retweet and Facebook shares though so it's a win win for Lala

 

[JaDed]

I actually think that Pakistani voters are a lot more sophisticated than people give them credit for.

Were this not to be the case, they would have voted blindly for Imran Khan, who was a national legend with demi-god status. They did not. They chose Sharif, who, despite being corrupt, was a better bet for the country's economy than the PPP or anyone else.

And I don't think that a large number of Pakistanis are going to be swayed by anti-India rhetoric. They may have sympathy for Kashmiris, but are definitely more worried about their own country and lives first.

Shahid Afridi is barking up the wrong tree if he thinks that his India- provoking tweets are going to get him votes in Pakistan. But he isn't the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, is he? What else can one expect from him?

Are any of our Pakistani friends in agreement?

Which would be the case in India as well.. Amitabh didn't become the CM or even win a state, we all know what would happen if Sachin stands up for elections in Mumbai as well.

It's baby steps , which LALA is taking,plus not to forget he loves to be in limelight.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Conference call number and PIN please?

I would love to dial in! Just for the Giggles!

 

[troodon]

Which would be the case in India as well.. Amitabh didn't become the CM or even win a state, we all know what would happen if Sachin stands up for elections in Mumbai as well.

It's baby steps , which LALA is taking,plus not to forget he loves to be in limelight.

Only in South India Film stars taste instant success. These days, even in South India there is no gaurantee that movie stars will succeed. Chiranjeevi is prime example. Poor fellow, he thought he would become CM when he started his political party. Now he is no where in politics. He is back to movies like Amitabh.

 

[bluevision]

The first u19 PM candidate world-wide.
On a serious note, he is taking himself way too seriously

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Afridi will disconnect the phone after speaking 1 sentence. He doesn't have the patience.

 

[j_kazmi]

Afridi has no idea what he’s doing. If some one is going to talk to Kashmiris on the other side of the border then why Afridi out of all people.

He doesn’t know the first thing about politics. He should just stay out of it.

 

[Bewal Express]

I actually think that Pakistani voters are a lot more sophisticated than people give them credit for.

Were this not to be the case, they would have voted blindly for Imran Khan, who was a national legend with demi-god status. They did not. They chose Sharif, who, despite being corrupt, was a better bet for the country's economy than the PPP or anyone else.

And I don't think that a large number of Pakistanis are going to be swayed by anti-India rhetoric. They may have sympathy for Kashmiris, but are definitely more worried about their own country and lives first.

Shahid Afridi is barking up the wrong tree if he thinks that his India- provoking tweets are going to get him votes in Pakistan. But he isn't the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, is he? What else can one expect from him?

Are any of our Pakistani friends in agreement?

Yes we have seen his great economic achievements when during his term the govt has borrowed as much as the country has in its entire history, at a time of low oil prices the trade deficit has balloned, i could go on...

 

[www787]

Having an opinion and raising awareness is understandable and supported but addressing people via phone is ridiculous. Disagree with this. Should not go with it, I hope.

 

[Indiafan]

Let's see if democracy avails in India as claimed by some people in this thread below.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?271513-Shoes-hurled-at-Du-Plessis-Jadeja-in-Chennai

since when does democracy mean allowing people from other countries to interfere in your personal matter?

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Having an opinion and raising awareness is understandable and supported but addressing people via phone is ridiculous. Disagree with this. Should not go with it, I hope.

Why not? Long overdue!

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why not? Long overdue!

Long overdue? Lol. What locus does Afridi has in India or J and K?

 

[cricketjoshila]

since when does democracy mean allowing people from other countries to interfere in your personal matter?

Have they ever experienced Democracy?

 

[IMMY69]

Long overdue? Lol. What locus does Afridi has in India or J and K?

So you finally admit it..
Thank you!!

 

[English August]

Do they still call it telephone in Pakistan? Welcome to 80s!

 

[DeadBall]

Do they still call it telephone in Pakistan? Welcome to 80s!

Please let us know the correct term so that we can modify the title accordingly.

 

[Pakistanian]

Do they still call it telephone in Pakistan? Welcome to 80s!

It's 2018 in America and we still have telephones.

 

[RumiNYC]

Please let us know the correct term so that we can modify the title accordingly.

 

[Pakistanian]

Long overdue? Lol. What locus does Afridi has in India or J and K?

You don't need any "locus" to have a right to free speech and an opinion. Afridi has a huge fanbase in Kashmir, they value his opinion and that's all that matters.

 

[www787]

Why not? Long overdue!

Not the most effective way to solve this issue.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And anyone is entititled to criticize one’s opinion. But, it should be left for professional. This act won’t save innocents life and won’t end oppression.

 

[Waseem]

The first u19 PM candidate world-wide.
On a serious note, he is taking himself way too seriously

Clearly Indians are taking him way more seriously than he takes himself seriously

But Yes trolling to next level by Afridi!

 

[www787]

Have they ever experienced Democracy?

Pakiatan will be holding another democratic election soon.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You don't need any "locus" to have a right to free speech and an opinion. Afridi has a huge fanbase in Kashmir, they value his opinion and that's all that matters.

Afridi has no rights in India and J and K is Indian territory.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakiatan will be holding another democratic election soon.

Where Army calls the shots? In true democracies, civilian govt calls the shots not the army.

Has any PM in Pakistan completed his 5 year term?

 

[emm-tee]

Afridi has no rights in India and J and K is Indian territory.

Let's discuss these *rights* you speak of.
The innocent ones from the region apparently don't know much about that term.

 

[English August]

Where Army calls the shots? In true democracies, civilian govt calls the shots not the army.

Has any PM in Pakistan completed his 5 year term?

Indeed. There is more to democracy that holding elections. Even Russia held "elections" recently where Putin won 90%+ of the votes. A complete farce.

Role of armed forces is one of the critical markers of true democracy. They need to stay in the barracks unless called to action by the civilian government.

 

[www787]

Where Army calls the shots? In true democracies, civilian govt calls the shots not the army.

Has any PM in Pakistan completed his 5 year term?

If there is solid evidence of corruption against Indian PM, wouldn’t the law of the land have him/her disqualified?

PM has been removed, party is still a ruling party. Not Army.

Had happened all over the world.

Accountability is probably the most important tool to sustain democracy.

 

[JaDed]

Only in South India Film stars taste instant success. These days, even in South India there is no gaurantee that movie stars will succeed. Chiranjeevi is prime example. Poor fellow, he thought he would become CM when he started his political party. Now he is no where in politics. He is back to movies like Amitabh.

Pawan Kalyan might you never know.

 

[Madplayer]

Lala is smart.

Whether or not he says anything or goes through with this at all, he has garnered a substantial following in Kashmir from a few tweets.

What makes you think People in Kashmir werent crazy for him already?

 

[Wonderwoman]

Afridi will open a pandora's box here, it is open invitation for Indians to meddle in the affairs of Balochistan, FATA etc.

 

[Greenstorm]

Afridi will open a pandora's box here, it is open invitation for Indians to meddle in the affairs of Balochistan, FATA etc.

As if they are not already meddling.

 

[Pakistanian]

Afridi will open a pandora's box here, it is open invitation for Indians to meddle in the affairs of Balochistan, FATA etc.

yeah cause people there would love to hear an Indian cricketer speak lol

 

[MenInG]

Afridi will open a pandora's box here, it is open invitation for Indians to meddle in the affairs of Balochistan, FATA etc.

You must ask yourself, if there was a receptive audience, why has it not been done before? We have certified 'people' like Tareq Fatah etc who would be speaking all day if anyone cared to listen.

 

[Wonderwoman]

You must ask yourself, if there was a receptive audience, why has it not been done before? We have certified 'people' like Tareq Fatah etc who would be speaking all day if anyone cared to listen.

There is plenty of receptive audience, India just needs to make that interference as a state policy like Pakistan has done.

 

[MenInG]

There is plenty of receptive audience, India just needs to make that interference as a state policy like Pakistan has done.

Sorry - maybe I am not making myself clear. Are you saying that NO private citizen in India is interested in the affairs of Balochistan?

 

[cricketjoshila]

If there is solid evidence of corruption against Indian PM, wouldn’t the law of the land have him/her disqualified?

PM has been removed, party is still a ruling party. Not Army.

Had happened all over the world.

Accountability is probably the most important tool to sustain democracy.

70 years of existence of Pakistan, how many PMs have completed the 5 yr term?

What crime was Nawaz Sharif convicted of?

 

[WildSwing]

Let's see if he has any patience for that because Imran (with recent world cup, charisma fame and newly built free cancer hospital) had to wait 6 years after entering politics to win one seat for his party and 17 years to make any difference at national level with his party. Other Pak cricketers tried politics failed and left without showing any patience including Sarfaraz Nawaz (he even joined altaf bhai party after bhutto), Aamir Sohail (wasin PMLN until Sethi was made head of PCB)

Clearly lala is much bigger and more popular than Imran khan, Lala has much more charisma than imran khan so he won't have to wait and win nothing like Imran khan, if lala enters the politics today he'll smoke Imran khan and become the PM of pakistan which IK has been dreaming for the last 20 years

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

its embarrassing for both nations that this joke has gotten this far

 

[R3verse Swing]

70 years of existence of Pakistan, how many PMs have completed the 5 yr term?

What crime was Nawaz Sharif convicted of?

How many Indian PM's assassinated in the same period?

 

[R3verse Swing]

since when does democracy mean allowing people from other countries to interfere in your personal matter?

I swear to god I have never understood why Indians are so fickle and insecure.

Commenting on a situation in another country is akin to interfering? What does democracy have to do with it? Do you even know what democracy means? It tell you what it means, to guarantee the voice of the minority. India should try it out.

No wonder all it took was one tweet.

 

[Mamoon]

So when is Afridi going to address Shias, Ahmadis and other minorities?

The actual Pakistanis who are being oppressed by their fellow Pakistanis?

The apologists claim that Afridi's intentions are purely humanitarian and it has nothing to do with nationalism. If that is true, why are his fellow Pakistanis not higher in the pecking order than Indian occupied Kashmiris, who are not Pakistanis to begin with?

If his actions have to do with nationalism, why aren't the people of his nation higher in the pecking order than Indian occupied Kashmiris?

Can anyone answer these uncomfortable questions without resorting to ad hominem or using other deflection tactics, commonly referred to in Pakistan as aaye, bayen, shayen.

 

[Mamoon]

Serious question - is Afridi planning to take a leaf from Imran Khan's book and join politics?

Why not?

In terms of maturity and sanity, they are both at the same level.

 

[cricketjoshila]

How many Indian PM's assassinated in the same period?

How many Pakistani PMs assasinated? More than India i guess.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I swear to god I have never understood why Indians are so fickle and insecure.

Commenting on a situation in another country is akin to interfering? What does democracy have to do with it? Do you even know what democracy means? It tell you what it means, to guarantee the voice of the minority. India should try it out.

No wonder all it took was one tweet.

Give this advise to Pakistan. Not India.

 

[R3verse Swing]

How many Pakistani PMs assasinated? More than India i guess.

Why do you always fail to give a straight forward answer?

Are you busy Googling it?

One thing I can tell you, anyone with the name Gandhi is assassinated in India, including non-PMs! That's how bad it is.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Give this advise to Pakistan. Not India.

Dalits, Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Atheists, and Women, in India, say hi!

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why do you always fail to give a straight forward answer?

Are you busy Googling it?

One thing I can tell you, anyone with the name Gandhi is assassinated in India, including non-PMs! That's how bad it is.

One thing i can tell you is that many Indian PMs have completed their 5yr terms as PMs.

How many Pakistani PMs have done it? Assasination,Coup,Courts something always comes up.

Pakistani PMs get removed get hanged and exiled thats how bad it is.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Dalits, Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Atheists, and Women, in India, say hi!

Hindus Shias Hazaras Sikhs Christians Atheists Ahmedis Women cant even say Hi from Pakistan.

Hindus from Pakistan are seeking refuge in India

 

[R3verse Swing]

Hindus Shias Hazaras Sikhs Christians Atheists Ahmedis Women cant even say Hi from Pakistan.

Hindus are seeking refuge in India

Bankrupt response. Means you admit to what I was saying. Though you agree lower caste Hindus are seeking refuge in India.

Great!

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Hindus Shias Hazaras Sikhs Christians Atheists Ahmedis Women cant even say Hi from Pakistan.

Hindus from Pakistan are seeking refuge in India

I like how you didn't mention Muslims as a minority, think that says everything about how you view them, not to mention the sects you did mention.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

So when is Afridi going to address Shias, Ahmadis and other minorities?

The actual Pakistanis who are being oppressed by their fellow Pakistanis?

The apologists claim that Afridi's intentions are purely humanitarian and it has nothing to do with nationalism. If that is true, why are his fellow Pakistanis not higher in the pecking order than Indian occupied Kashmiris, who are not Pakistanis to begin with?

If his actions have to do with nationalism, why aren't the people of his nation higher in the pecking order than Indian occupied Kashmiris?

Can anyone answer these uncomfortable questions without resorting to ad hominem or using other deflection tactics, commonly referred to in Pakistan as aaye, bayen, shayen.

How come you missed out women in Pakistan? Don't they count as oppressed who deserve an address from Afridi in Pakistan? Is this a case of you showcasing your sexist slant again?

 

[R3verse Swing]

One thing i can tell you is that many Indian PMs have completed their 5yr terms as PMs.

How many Pakistani PMs have done it? Assasination,Coup,Courts something always comes up.

Pakistani PMs get removed get hanged and exiled thats how bad it is.

Nonsensical answer.

The point is you make it out that Pakistani PMs have tough time yet PMs in India have more chance of getting assassinated BEFORE even completing a term.

I know you have been upset of late, but take a rest.

 

[Mamoon]

How come you missed out women in Pakistan? Don't they count as oppressed who deserve an address from Afridi in Pakistan? Is this a case of you showcasing your sexist slant again?

Afridi is the champion of sexism. His statement over women's cricket is there for everyone to see. However, he happy to play the humanitarian gimmick so why doesn't he extend the same logic to people of his own country?

Secondly, sectarian violence and oppression of minorities is a bigger issue in Pakistan than sexism. Of course sexism exists and it is a problem, but women of specific race, ethnicity, religion etc. are not targeted - it is uniform across the country.

However, Shias, Ahmadis and other religious minorities are targeted only because of their religious beliefs. Nonetheless, it appears that you still have an axe to grind because you decide to deflect the real issue at hand (in the Usman thread) and focus on the implied sexism in my tone which was completely baseless to begin with.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Afridi is the champion of sexism. His statement over women's cricket is there for everyone to see. However, he happy to play the humanitarian gimmick so why doesn't he extend the same logic to people of his own country?

Secondly, sectarian violence and oppression of minorities is a bigger issue in Pakistan than sexism. Of course sexism exists and it is a problem, but women of specific race, ethnicity, religion etc. are not targeted - it is uniform across the country.

However, Shias, Ahmadis and other religious minorities are targeted only because of their religious beliefs. Nonetheless, it appears that you still have an axe to grind because you decide to deflect the real issue at hand (in the Usman thread) and focus on the implied sexism in my tone which was completely baseless to begin with.

I am just using your own example. You used the minorities that Afridi didn't address in this speech to launch an attack on his motives, I am similarly using the ones you didn't address to criticise you. I haven't even got round to the transgenders truck drivers you TOTALLY failed to bring up as to why they were missed out in Afridi's speech. We shall get to those soon.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Bankrupt response. Means you admit to what I was saying. Though you agree lower caste Hindus are seeking refuge in India.

Great!

Poor you. You have no shame that you make fun of the illtreated Pakistani hindus who are seeking refuge in India.

No wonder Pakistani hindus are leaving Pakistan as the likes of you betray the mentality that is behind their ill treatment.

 

[www787]

70 years of existence of Pakistan, how many PMs have completed the 5 yr term?

What crime was Nawaz Sharif convicted of?

Lets not play this game.

Changing your questions trying to fit your narrative.

India gets Pakistani channels and if you do not you can google why he was disqualified.

If PM's aren't corrupt then can, and next one will.

Does India allow corrupt PM to stay PM?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Nonsensical answer.

The point is you make it out that Pakistani PMs have tough time yet PMs in India have more chance of getting assassinated BEFORE even completing a term.

I know you have been upset of late, but take a rest.

Why will i be upset? Have a very good life by god's grace.

So how many Pakistani PM's have been assasinated, hanged or exiled or removed from office?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lets not play this game.

Changing your questions trying to fit your narrative.

India gets Pakistani channels and if you do not you can google why he was disqualified.

If PM's aren't corrupt then can, and next one will.

Does India allow corrupt PM to stay PM?

We get Pakistani channels? Which ones?

If PM is corrupt he should be in jail. Why is he not?

 

[R3verse Swing]

Why will i be upset? Have a very good life by god's grace.

So how many Pakistani PM's have been assasinated, hanged or exiled or removed from office?

You are free to believe what you want, but it's nothing compared to India's sorry state of politicians. The name Gandhi is enough to get you killed. 2 Prime Ministers, and Founding Father of India.

At least Pakistan's Supreme Court puts its PMs on trial, serve justice, unlike in India where an internationally banned terrorist is let off scott free with blood on his hands, and voted in as PM of India.

 

[Wonderwoman]

Sorry - maybe I am not making myself clear. Are you saying that NO private citizen in India is interested in the affairs of Balochistan?

Not even 1% of Indians would be able to place Balochistan on the map.

 

[Wonderwoman]

yeah cause people there would love to hear an Indian cricketer speak lol

Do you remember a Kohli fan being arrested in Pakistan??
Anyway... I didn't say the meddling will be restricted to just Indian cricketers, if people feel Afridi is justified in inciting violence against my countrymen, I would do my very best in whatever possible to return the favor, that would be the mentality on this side of border. and remember there are 6-7 times more Indians. and bigger trolls than Afridi here.

 

[world cup captain]

since when does democracy mean allowing people from other countries to interfere in your personal matter?

I'm not understanding how you're calling this a personal matter. When a government continues to harm people under its control, its no longer a personal matter. Other countries intervene when such occurrences take place. Even the U.S. would have acted out the way it did with the Syrian government using gas on its citizens had India not been a potential economic superpower.

 

[DRsohail]

Pro Kashmiri might be different from anti India, plus you make it sound like Pakistani voters are much more sophisticated,if that was the case PML and PPP wouldn't be there and joining politics with marketability which LALA is ,not saying he LL be a PM or CM IMMEDIATELY.

Pro indian or anti india will not matter otherwise Jumat-e -Islami would have been in power and PMLN would have never been in power.People here are now consider other things more important.