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Result : South Africa v England | 2nd Test | Jan 2-6, 2016 | Cape Town | Match Drawn

Robert said:
Could be that he is only a pick for England or Kiwi matches from now on. Give the new ball to Finn and bring on Wood.

Glory be, Finny gets a second wicket!

This track is no good. Maybe a Lillee or Holding or Marshall or Waqar could get something out of it with sheer speed, but twelve wickets in four days, come on!
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Yeah even Steyn wouldve struggled on this track at his age.
 
Ab Fan said:
Only if they can get England out before tea..
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A draw is the most likely possibility but you never know with test cricket. South Africa have two bowlers who have pace and if they can get Cook today, they'll put England under some pressure.
 
Hmm unexpected declaration. Batting on wouldve been better IMO. Maybe he thinks the pitch is going to break up buy wouldn't that mean SA will have to bat last?
 
The township boy comes good. Very special moment despite the very streaky edge :P

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Probably a reasonably boring draw in the end, but a teeny chance of an Adelaide 06.

South Africa don't really have the bowling attack to win this one though. The quality is not there at the moment; and, lest we forget, they very quickly conceded 629 runs too, and they will still be tired from that.

It would need a total mental disintegration from England for South Africa to even have a chance of forcing a result in 100 overs. Stranger things have happened. But I don't think it will this time.
 
Who is England's nightwatchman? I feel for that guy.
 
1272 runs....13 wickets.....4 days....

Only good thing about this match is Stokes scintillating innings & Buvama bhai maiden 100.

Hope for a better tomorrow..
 
Mamoon said:
Why would you want an opposition player to score against your team? It is absurd.
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They want the team to win and their favourite player (who happens to be in the opposition) to have a good game. A win-win situation, not absurd at all :).
 
James said:
Probably a reasonably boring draw in the end, but a teeny chance of an Adelaide 06.
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No McWarne to worry about this time.

I can see Chef and Compo batting to a careful 200-1 before the two skippers shake hands and call it a day.
 
Cook should be looking to use the 2nd inns to regain some much needed form in this series.
 
absolutely dismal from england.. Improvement in batting/ bowling won't matter if they don't sort out these issues.
 
Poms don't sledge now remember, during the kiwi tour while the english media were having their love fest with bmac(while slamming our lot for being evil thugs) we even had jimmy anderson telling us he had given up sledging...

Say what you like about our lot at least they aren't bullshitters they sledge and are proud of it, english media and players have always irked me with their self righteous hypocrisy with sledging always quick to bring up our lot with regards trash talk while they do the exact same thing themselves every match.
 
trogger said:
Poms don't sledge now remember, during the kiwi tour while the english media were having their love fest with bmac(while slamming our lot for being evil thugs) we even had jimmy anderson telling us he had given up sledging...

Say what you like about our lot at least they aren't bullshitters they sledge and are proud of it, english media and players have always irked me with their self righteous hypocrisy with sledging always quick to bring up our lot with regards trash talk while they do the exact same thing themselves every match.
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Jimmy's statement took the cake lol..
 
trogger said:
Poms don't sledge now remember, during the kiwi tour while the english media were having their love fest with bmac(while slamming our lot for being evil thugs) we even had jimmy anderson telling us he had given up sledging...

Say what you like about our lot at least they aren't bullshitters they sledge and are proud of it, english media and players have always irked me with their self righteous hypocrisy with sledging always quick to bring up our lot with regards trash talk while they do the exact same thing themselves every match.
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The recent NZ-Aus series was played in good spirits, can't recall too many issues other than the odd Starc tantrum.
 
ATG Cook once again standing up when it counts. To be fair though, Steyn has been at his best in this match...
 
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Nikhil_cric said:
How will his pace magically improve if he's suddenly bowling with a Duke ball? He may swing it more but pace will remain the same.
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Anderson is probably at the point where he needs a certain type of condition to get wickets. He can't even get this ball to reverse because the outfield is so lush.

I'd like to see him come on first change from now on.
 
Wow, what a game this has been. If South Africa get Root quickly enough, we just might get a result to this game.
 
Robert said:
Anderson is probably at the point where he needs a certain type of condition to get wickets. He can't even get this ball to reverse because the outfield is so lush.

I'd like to see him come on first change from now on.
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He was never a bowler for all conditions like Steyn but his declining pace means he will certainly become a lot more dependent on conditions . Two series against the visiting Lankans and Pakistanis and I think he should call it quits. I
 
Bilal7 said:
Guessing you didn't watch any of it.
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Aside from the Stokes assault (against a weakened SA bowling attack and an out of his depth captain), what has been great about this batathon?
 
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Aman said:
Aside from the Stokes assault (against a weakened SA bowling attack and poor captaincy), what has been great about this batathon?
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That has played a big part in making this a great match.
 
Aman said:
Aside from the Stokes assault (against a weakened SA bowling attack and poor captaincy), what has been great about this batathon?
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Some new records and 5 days of cricket. Besides, I'm sure this was custom made to give our batsman some confidence, nothing wrong with that.
 
Ozymandiasza said:
Some new records and 5 days of cricket. Besides, I'm sure this was custom made to give our batsman some confidence, nothing wrong with that.
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Yeah, I have no problem with that either, it's your home series and you can prepare whatever you like. Although I do hate these types of wickets, I understand SA's need for such a pitch.

What I don't buy is the crap about this being a 'great' Test.
 
Aman said:
It's not a great match.
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Wonder what you're doing on this thread then. Anyway, I don't mean to argue about this game's quality with someone who hasn't watched it.

I'll say it again; England and South Africa are the best places to play test matches in.
 
Bilal7 said:
Wonder what you're doing on this thread then. Anyway, I don't mean to argue about this game's quality with someone who hasn't watched it.

I'll say it again; England and South Africa are the best places to play test matches in.
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15 wickets over 4 days of cricket.
 
dandapinda said:
Amla bhai hit 200 & Moeen bhai 155...so obviously great match.
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Another guy who has been here for the past couple of days but instead of enjoying the show, has been whining about everything. Go do something else, don't make yourself miserable.
 
Aman said:
15 wickets over 4 days of cricket.
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It is a nice change of pace from what we usually get in South Africa. It will become boring if the pitches for the remaining matches are similar to this one.
 
Bilal7 said:
Wonder what you're doing on this thread then. Anyway, I don't mean to argue about this game's quality with someone who hasn't watched it.

I'll say it again; England and South Africa are the best places to play test matches in.
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Obviously , but not all pitches are equal..in Both places there are flat wickets in every series [Nothing wrong in this as we didn't need all matches played in same type of surface]
 
Bilal7 said:
Another guy who has been here for the past couple of days but instead of enjoying the show, has been whining about everything. Go do something else, don't make yourself miserable.
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Why should i have to follow any match with one eye? i will tell what i see rather than whether my favorite player scored enough runs.

PS : Enjoyed Stokes innings..one if the best test innings in recent times...
 
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Should get the spinner on early. Ali got a few to turn yesterday.
 
Bilal7 said:
It is a nice change of pace from what we usually get in South Africa. It will become boring if the pitches for the remaining matches are similar to this one.
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There are enough flat wickets around the world, I've seen enough 600 v 600 scores over the years to judge a great Test from a poor one.

Ross Taylor made 290 in Perth recently on a road (broke a record which stood for over 100 years), many here complained about the pitch (which I agree with). In honesty, I don't even rate the knock or Test highly, it was a poor Test where there was no way of getting a result, the runs the batsmen scored were too soft to rate.

This is the same kind of Test (if not worse), it's day 5 and we're still in the early stages of the 3rd innings! But somehow it's a great Test? Had NZ been playing on this wicket against Aus, would you still call it a 'great' Test, and if so on what basis?
 
Aman said:
There are enough flat wickets around the world, I've seen enough 600 v 600 scores over the years to judge a great Test from a poor one.

Ross Taylor made 290 in Perth recently on a road (broke a record which stood for over 100 years), many here complained about the pitch (which I agree with). In honesty, I don't even rate the knock or Test highly, it was a poor Test where there was no way of getting a result, the runs the batsmen scored were too soft to rate.

This is the same kind of Test (if not worse), it's day 5 and we're still in the early stages of the 3rd innings! But somehow it's a great Test? Had NZ been playing on this wicket against Aus, would you still call it a 'great' Test, and if so on what basis?
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500 v 500*
 
Aman said:
There are enough flat wickets around the world, I've seen enough 600 v 600 scores over the years to judge a great Test from a poor one.

Ross Taylor made 290 in Perth recently on a road (broke a record which stood for over 100 years), many here complained about the pitch (which I agree with). In honesty, I don't even rate the knock or Test highly, it was a poor Test where there was no way of getting a result, the runs the batsmen scored were too soft to rate.

This is the same kind of Test (if not worse), it's day 5 and we're still in the early stages of the 3rd innings! But somehow it's a great Test? Had NZ been playing on this wicket against Aus, would you still call it a 'great' Test, and if so on what basis?
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Once again, this is different to what we usually get in South Africa and so the novelty factor has helped make it enjoyable. If Australia were only laying out roads once in a while, their matches would be enjoyable too. Variety makes test matches interesting.

England could have been three down right now and under pressure with the South African pacers bowling well. This match is still alive so I suggest you turn on your telly and watch some of it instead of speaking without having seen any of it.
 
Bilal7 said:
Once again, this is different yo what we usually get in South Africa and so thr novelty factor has helped make it enjoyable. If Australia were only laying out roads once in a while, their matches would be enjoyable too. Variety makes test matches interesting.

England could have been three down right now and under pressure with the South African pacers bowling well. This match is still alive so I suggest you turn on your telly and watch some of it instead of speaking without having seen any of it.
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When India produces a rank turner, what's the difference (one favors one aspect more than the other)?

IIRC you were adamant about all of the pitches in the series being poor.

India produces pitches which are favorable to spinners, what's the difference between India and SA?
 
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Aman said:
When India produces a rank turner, what's the difference (one favors one aspect more than the other)?

IIRC you were adamant about all of the pitches in the series being poor.
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Mohali and Nagpur were both rank turners and after the entire cricketing community lambasted their pitches, they produced a decent one for the dead rubber. They've also been producing rank turners in series prior to their most recent one. How is this similar to South Africa laying out a flat track that still has pace and bounce? FYI, Stokes played the innings of his life and England produced 17 chances in their bowling innings.
 
Bilal7 said:
Mohali and Nagpur were both rank turners and after the entire cricketing community lambasted their pitches, they produced a decent one for the dead rubber. They've also been producing rank turners in series prior to their most recent one. How is this similar to South Africa laying out a flat track that still has pace and bounce? FYI, Stokes played the innings of his life and England produced 17 chances in their bowling innings.
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17 chances against an out of sorts SA side is hardly remarkable.

Where were the complaints when England won the series in India on rank turners?

What is so wrong with rank turners? They're just like green tops and produce far more interesting cricket to what we're seeing now. And IIRC, a lot of Pakistani's (including yourself) were calling for them for the series against Aus and Eng to take full advantage of home ground advantage...
 
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Game on hai! How long can Compton and Taylor survive? Stokes is a wonderful player but he'll come out swinging.
 
Aman said:
17 chances against an out of sorts SA side is hardly remarkable.

Where were the complaints when England won the series in India on rank turners?

What is so wrong with rank turners anyway, they're just like green tops and produce far more interesting cricket to what we're seeing now.
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People don't like seeing the same exact formula in every single game. England and South Africa have variety in their pitches which makes their matches very enjoyable.
 
Bilal7 said:
Game on hai! How long can Compton and Taylor survive? Stokes is a wonderful player but he'll come out swinging.
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Compton, Taylor, Stokes, Bairstow, Ali and Broad can easily score 150 between them to shut this game out.
 
Aman said:
Compton, Taylor, Stokes, Bairstow, Ali and Broad can easily score 150 between them to shut this game out.
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You think AB, Amla, De Kock, Faf and Bavuma can't get that many in 20 overs?
 
Bilal7 said:
People don't like seeing the same exact formula in every single game. England and South Africa have variety in their pitches which makes their matches very enjoyable.
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Producing a flat track is as good as reducing a Test series by a Test as neither side is unlikely to get a result.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Still going to be a draw here. England can just block all day without any pressure.
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Even if they're bowled out, they can pack the fielders on the boundary and slow the scoring.

What do you think are the chances SA even go for it given a chaseable total?
 
Aman said:
Producing a flat track is as good as reducing a Test series by a Test as neither side is unlikely to get a result.
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What I'm seeing is a game that can still have a result right now. This reminds me of the Abu Dhabi test and I hope you know how that turned out.
 
Aman said:
Still plenty of batting left, this isn't an ODI with fielding restrictions nor is this a side who is willing to go for it.
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If you think that South Africa cannot chase 150 in 20 overs, when they are 1:0 down and after what Stokes and Bairstow have already done on this pitch, then we have nothing more to discuss.
 
Morris has surely showed that he is a worthy replacement/all rounder. Hope to see more from him.
 
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