Return of the King - Misbah-ul-Haq rebuilding our home fortress that Mickey Arthur had shattered!

[Shoaibbtt]

You’re right. But Misbah is not the chief selector anymore- judge him on his coaching performance.

Inzi as selector: 6/10
Mickey as LOI coach: 6/10
Mickey as Test coach: 4/10

Misbah as selector: 2/10
Misbah as LOI coach: 4/10
Misbah as Test coach: 6/10

M Wasim as selector: 9/10

That’s my general observation of managerial performances over the last few years.

Inzi was a better selector than Misbah???? Inzi was rubbish in my view didn't even bother selecting or giving domestic performers a long run eg Usman Salhuddin and Saad Ali.

Muhammad Wasim is doing selection as it should be done logically and giving importance (for once) to domestic cricket.

 

[Saj]

2-0 and he's gone from the pariah, the destroyer, the man ruining Pakistan cricket.........to now being the King

Pakistan cricket zindabad.

 

[Hasan123]

He needs to win more series before you start making threads like this.

 

[TheSultan]

Some people might ask:

Why the hell should we become strong at home? We have to win away!

Well, for sure.

But, you can only become a strong Test side if you're first strong AT YOUR HOME.

Gradually, start winning away. SENA is a super hard target for a team like Pakistan, where we haven't won much in our history.

Not necessarily. You need a good pace attack to consistently win abroad. Misbah only relied on spin in his previous stints and the pace bowling rots away and gets badly exposed abroad. This match was a rare occasion where the pacers won the game for pak. It is a step in the right direction. If we win most of our matches like this, then yes winning at home will help.

But if we are reliant on spin for 90% of the victories, then we will become very good.....at winning on dust bowls a la India in the 80s and 90s

 

[Mamoon]

Still no reply [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] ?

What reply do you want? What is the point of comparing the performance of India and Pakistan when India is light-years ahead of Pakistan in all departments?

If Pakistan was good as India I would of course praise them lavishly.

 

[Junaids]

Not necessarily. You need a good pace attack to consistently win abroad. Misbah only relied on spin in his previous stints and the pace bowling rots away and gets badly exposed abroad. This match was a rare occasion where the pacers won the game for pak. It is a step in the right direction. If we win most of our matches like this, then yes winning at home will help.

But if we are reliant on spin for 90% of the victories, then we will become very good.....at winning on dust bowls a la India in the 80s and 90s

Misbah’s two spinners have a combined age of 69, and were outbowled at home by Hasan Ali.

All we have seen is the weakest South African team since the 1950’s lose in unfamiliar conditions.

Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Hawkeye]

He needs to win more series before you start making threads like this.

Has a 100% home Test win record till now, both as the captain and now the coach.

Doing better than Mickey Arthur till now, let's see what's ahead.

 

[Hasan123]

Has a 100% home Test win record till now, both as the captain and now the coach.

Doing better than Mickey Arthur till now, let's see what's ahead.

2 of those series were against Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. We need to see how he does against New Zealand,Australia , and England at home before calling him king . Also would be nice to see better performances away from home.

 

[Hawkeye]

Not necessarily. You need a good pace attack to consistently win abroad.

Yeah, and that's a work in progress. We don't have much talent in the domestics, poor pace bowlers all around.

And you do realize that we've never won in our history in Aus & SA with greatest pace attacks of all time - Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar etc.?

Last series win was NZ in 2003 under our greatest players. This pace attack gave significant trouble to only NZ in NZ. And a few in Eng.

 

[Kroll]

Has a 100% home Test win record till now, both as the captain and now the coach.

Doing better than Mickey Arthur till now, let's see what's ahead.

Nope, 4 drawn series, each time he played SA - twice, one drawn series against SL and NZ. Has lost 4 Test matches in the UAE (including one against West Indies).

 

[Lonewarrior]

misbah and waqar is the worse combo for Pakistani cricket , the more they both stays, the more we gonna decline , mark my words .....
micky arthur was the best coach for Pakistan ....

 

[HappyWarsFan]

misbah and waqar is the worse combo for Pakistani cricket , the more they both stays, the more we gonna decline , mark my words .....
micky arthur was the best coach for Pakistan ....

Mickey was the worst coach, destroying the UAE fortress.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Inzi was a better selector than Misbah???? Inzi was rubbish in my view didn't even bother selecting or giving domestic performers a long run eg Usman Salhuddin and Saad Ali.

Muhammad Wasim is doing selection as it should be done logically and giving importance (for once) to domestic cricket.

Inzi’s selections were okay but not horrible. He missed out on some performers but he also gave chances to Fakhar Zaman, Faheem Ashraf, Shadab Khan, Hassan Ali who all ended up becoming top performers. There were no outright bad decisions, even the most questionable decision was Imam ul Haq who ended up averaging 55 in ODIs. So I have no huge problems with Inzamam’s selection and I rank him as a 6.

Both Misbah and Inzi ignored Fawad and Usman and persisted with Shafiq and Sohail. But Misbah also gave comebacks to Umar Akmal, Ahmed Shehzad, and “surprise package” Mohammad Irfan and gave a Test debut to Musa Khan.

 

[Saj]

I just hope they don't get carried away by beating at home, the worst South African team ever to play against Pakistan in a Test series.

Yes the outcome was 2-0 and it could be seen as progress, but there are still a lot of issues that need addressing and they should not be overlooked.

I hope the progress continues and more importantly nobody gets into a comfort zone after the 2-0 win.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Inzi’s selections were okay but not horrible. He missed out on some performers but he also gave chances to Fakhar Zaman, Faheem Ashraf, Shadab Khan, Hassan Ali who all ended up becoming top performers. There were no outright bad decisions, even the most questionable decision was Imam ul Haq who ended up averaging 55 in ODIs. So I have no huge problems with Inzamam’s selection and I rank him as a 6.

Both Misbah and Inzi ignored Fawad and Usman and persisted with Shafiq and Sohail. But Misbah also gave comebacks to Umar Akmal, Ahmed Shehzad, and “surprise package” Mohammad Irfan and gave a Test debut to Musa Khan.

Harris Sohail in tests was a slap on the face to others that work hard in the domestic field, Harris got a red carpet treatment after injury (probably fell while watching Casper the friendly ghost) and just waltzed into the test team.

Inzi was full of contradiction said we are looking at youngsters yet had Abid Ali, Shoaib Malik and Hafeez in the team. Inzi didn't do his colleague Asim Kamal right either.

 

[Last Monetarist]

He's got some breathing space after these two series wins. No tough tours over the next couple of years either, so he'll be able to cling on to his job.

 

[Kroll]

He's got some breathing space after these two series wins. No tough tours over the next couple of years either, so he'll be able to cling on to his job.

Should have been fired after NZ if not England, he's a lucky bloke to still have the job. Needs to be heavily curtailed if we got any chance in the upcoming T20 WC's.