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Rishabh Pant : Performance Watch

hes a match winner but he needs to improve his keeping he will then be a complete player in all three formats of the game
 
Rishabh Pant moves to number 11 in ICC Test batsman ranking - he is highest ranked wicket-keeper batsman with 715 rating.
 
Rishabh Pant becomes the first Indian Wicketkeeper batsman to achieve 700 or more Ratings in ICC Test Rankings. He currently has 715 Rating.
 
Pant is becoming a problem. Fearless batting with some amazing strokes.

Credit to Indian management for picking such a talent and letting him express himself.
 
Rishabh Pant - Sheer talent or talent with hard work ?

Initially there was hype
Now he scores too
And keeping - well thats still a debate but i believe ita improved a wee bit !!!

Where will he end his career as ?

If he had worn the green jersey , would he have flourished in Pakistan too ? Wud he have been picked up after initially failures and keeping howlers ?
 
You can't play some of the shots he is playing without hard work. That's pretty obvious. He also worked to get into shape.
 
Sheer talent + very hard work.
He is very sincere and game aware. It shows in his game now.
 
Nikhhil98 said:
Initially there was hype
Now he scores too
And keeping - well thats still a debate but i believe ita improved a wee bit !!!

Where will he end his career as ?

If he had worn the green jersey , would he have flourished in Pakistan too ? Wud he have been picked up after initially failures and keeping howlers ?
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Can answer the second part of your post - The biggest problem with Pak cricket is that management (& fans) are notoriously fickle - they hype somebody to the stars after one success & drop them off after a couple of failures. I cant see how players like Pant, Jadeja could have developed in Pakistan - their spirits & talents would have been crushed by the whole system well before their day in the sun.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Sorry, I forgot to put my trademark smiley there.
Let me post it again.

He should first try to become Parthiv Patel's successor then think about Dhoni. :inti
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Pant has already outscored Parthiv Patel in tests with a better average. And he's actually played fewer tests than Patel has.

In ODIs Pant is just about 200 runs short, having played half the number of games as Patel.

Patel was the typical flash in the pan. Pant is definitely showing more hunger.
https://www.cricbuzz.com/profiles/74/parthiv-patel
https://www.cricbuzz.com/profiles/10744/rishabh-pant
 
Another match winning innings in a crucial last match
 
It's the x factor that makes him so special.

No bowler can predict what shot he will try on the next ball.

He has that ability to smash even the best deliveries out of the ground.

This guy is more than just a dangerous batsman who can hit a few shots.
 
An Indian Side Without Rishabh Pant? 'Can't Imagine' Says Former England Batsman

Thanks to his stunning performances with the bat across formats, wicketkeeper-batsman Rishabh Pant has become indispensable to Indian cricket team, feels former England batsman Ian Bell. While Pant has been a consistent performer in red-ball cricket in his brief career, there were questions over his wasteful shots in the limited-overs but he has put those doubts to bed with sparkling show in the recently concluded T20I and ODI series against England at home.

During India’s epoch-making Test series win in Australia earlier this year, Pant played an intrinsic role with the bat and behind the stumps. His 97 helped India in saving the Sydney Test and then 89 not out powered them to a memorable win on the final day of the fourth Test at The Gabba.

Against England, he scored a century the fourth Test in Pune and he carried his form into limited-overs matches as well. In the series-deciding third ODI vs England on Sunday, Pant was the top scorer for India with hitting 78 off 62.

“I can’t imagine now an Indian side without him in it. It just feels like he’s the future and (he’s) around some world class players as well,” Bell told ESPNCricinfo.

“We’ve seen a mature series and that’s quite rare at the moment for seeing someone playing like that. I think it’s a rare talent and this is just the start of him now having a successful career. Incredible to watch, a real match-winner,” he added.

Bell reckons that Pant has brought in a much-needed calmness to his approach without compromising on his strike-rate. “He’s had a fantastic series, hasn’t he? Across all three formats. I saw a real calmness about him today. It’s not only high-risk, slogging or anything like that,” Bell said. “Also, he gets off strike and rotates it. So I imagine that those bowlers at the end of their mark are thinking that if they get it slightly wrong, Pant does hurt them.”

He continued, “We’ve seen a maturity as this series has gone on. That Test match hundred again would have given him a lot of confidence.”

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news/an-indian-side-without-rishabh-pant-cant-imagine-says-former-england-batsman-975726
 
People called him a poor man's Afridi. But he's turning out to be a poor man's ABDV. If he continues the same path, he is the next AB. Great batsman, good keeper.
 
gani999 said:
Pant has already outscored Parthiv Patel in tests with a better average. And he's actually played fewer tests than Patel has.

In ODIs Pant is just about 200 runs short, having played half the number of games as Patel.

Patel was the typical flash in the pan. Pant is definitely showing more hunger.
https://www.cricbuzz.com/profiles/74/parthiv-patel
https://www.cricbuzz.com/profiles/10744/rishabh-pant
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I think our Pseudo secular :inti: is secretly a Pant fan, he is reverse jinkxing him imo and its working Pant is blowing up...
 
'He can change game on its head': NZ bowling coach wary of 'extremely dangerous player' Rishabh Pant ahead of WTC final


Now, as India gear up for the WTC final against NZ, Pant is expected to be the key player for the Virat Kohli-led team. And NZ bowling coach Jurgensen is aware of what the left-hander can do with the bat.

New Zealand bowling coach Shane Jurgensen believes the Kiwi bowlers need to be wary of the threat possessed by India wicketkeeper-batsman Rishabh Pant during their World Test Championship final which takes place next month.

Pant has been in supreme form in the past few months. He was the key player in Australia as helped a depleted Indian team pull off a miraculous Test series win Down Under. Pant also was the star of India's Test series win at home against England. He performed brilliantly in the ODI and T20Is as well, and his splendid run saw him getting the captaincy role for Delhi Capitals in the Indian Premier League 2020.

In the absence of injured Shreyas Iyer, Pant led DC brilliantly and helped them to the top of the table before IPL 2021 was suspended by the BCCI and IPL Governing Council.

Now, as India gear up for the WTC final against NZ, Pant is expected to be the key player for the Virat Kohli-led team. And NZ bowling coach Jurgensen is aware of what the left-hander can do with the bat.

"Well, Pant is an extremely dangerous player who can change the game on its head. We saw how well he did it against Australia and England. He's extremely positive-minded, but with that comes potentially the opportunity to take his wicket," Jurgensen told The Telegraph.

"Our bowlers need to execute well, stay calm and make it as difficult as possible for Pant to score runs. He's certainly a free-flowing batsman and a tough one to stop, which we should keep in mind," he added.

Jurgensen also praised India's bowling attack and said that the team has a lot of options available to them.

"It's a challenging bowling attack that India have. A lot of options are available for them. It'll be a very, very stiff challenge we could face from Bumrah to Shardul, who's an all-rounder and has done well in Australia too. There's Mohammed Siraj and even their spinners, who can spin it both ways. It's a group of formidable, outstanding Test bowlers," he signed off.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/he-can-change-game-on-its-head-new-zealand-bowling-coach-wary-of-extremely-dangerous-player-rishabh-pant-ahead-of-wtc-final-101621846366430.html
 
rhony said:
People called him a poor man's Afridi. But he's turning out to be a poor man's ABDV. If he continues the same path, he is the next AB. Great batsman, good keeper.
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Pant is the combination of AB and Gilchrist. A match winner like Gilly and possess the genius of AB.

His only real test will be to handle swing and seam. His game vs pace, bounce and spin is brilliant.
 
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Ab Fan said:
Pant is the combination of AB and Gilchrist. A match winner like Gilly and possess the genius of AB.

His only real test will be to handle swing and seam. His game vs pace, bounce and spin is brilliant.
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Most Indians struggle vs swing.So won't be surprised if he struggles too.
 
Saurav said:
Most Indians struggle vs swing.So won't be surprised if he struggles too.
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Our batter's real struggle is against seam movement. Out test batters can negotiate swing, spin and bounce on par with other elite teams. They just soil their pants facing seaming conditions.
 
JattMaula said:
Our batter's real struggle is against seam movement. Out test batters can negotiate swing, spin and bounce on par with other elite teams. They just soil their pants facing seaming conditions.
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they have struggled in Eng,NZ where there is swing in the air

Seam bowling is tough for anyone to face as ball moves only after pitching and the direction is random
 
Ab Fan said:
Pant is the combination of AB and Gilchrist. A match winner like Gilly and possess the genius of AB.

His only real test will be to handle swing and seam. His game vs pace, bounce and spin is brilliant.
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he did score a test ton in England vs England
 
England will be challenging, he must not look to hit every ball’: Kapil Dev’s advice to Team India’s ‘valuable’ player

Kapil Dev stated that playing in English conditions will be challenging and Rishabh Pant needs to spend more time in the middle, instead of looking to hit every ball.


After a wonderful stint as Delhi Capitals captain in the Indian Premier League (IPL) 2021, Rishabh Pant is gearing up for the upcoming England tour. Team India will be travelling to the United Kingdom to play New Zealand in the final of the World Test Championship which begins on June 18 in Southampton. Later, in the month of August, Virat Kohli & Co are also slated to square off against the hosts in a five-match Test series.

Following his heroic in the Test series Down Under, Rishabh Pant will be considered as the first-choice wicket-keeper in the tour. It’s his second visit to England for a Test series and former Indian captain Kapil Dev wishes to see him playing his part well.

While speaking to Mid-Day in an interview, the legendary all-rounder stated that playing in English conditions will be challenging and Pant needs to spend more time in the middle, instead of looking to hit every ball.

“He looks a very mature cricketer now from the time he came into the side. He seems to have far more time to play his shots and obviously his range of strokes is awesome. But England will be challenging. He must spend more time in the middle and not just look to hit every ball. We used to say the same about Rohit Sharma, who had so many shots, but would step out and get out so many times,” Kapil Dev was quoted as saying.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/england-will-be-challenging-he-must-not-look-to-hit-every-ball-kapil-dev-s-advice-to-team-india-s-valuable-player-101622013497097.html
 
Pant struggled and eventually got out scoring just 4 today.
 
MP2011 said:
Played hideous shot today.
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Everyone wanted him to play aggressively and he went after a wide one.There will be failures.Can't have it both ways

I'd have this than Pujara's tuk tuk and eventually getting out
 
I'm not watching - how is he with his keeping in these conditions?
 
Saurav said:
Everyone wanted him to play aggressively and he went after a wide one.There will be failures.Can't have it both ways

I'd have this than Pujara's tuk tuk and eventually getting out
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I know he plays this way. But let's agree that shot was poor, extremely poor considering the state we were in at that time. Lot more was expected out of him.
 
Conditions were tough when he was batting, but it was like men v boys. He looked like a walking wicket.
 
He needs to improve when there is swing and seam. Can't flash the bat away from body, that's quite basic stuff.
 
MP2011 said:
I know he plays this way. But let's agree that shot was poor, extremely poor considering the state we were in at that time. Lot more was expected out of him.
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He wasn't gonna get runs any other way

NZ bowlers didnt give anything.First ball wide he went for it.

Would have been out soon with tuk tuk too
 
People are reading too much into his dismissal. He probably missed two balls and played a rash shot to get out. But the conditions were very difficult to bat in and he was against high quality swing bowlers.
 
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All eyes on Pant now. Hope he pulls off another of those innings and turns the match in India's favour
 
No other batsman in test world cricket puts up a smile on your face like Rishabh Pant does.

Let this guy always bat positively and remain a free spirit.

What a joy to watch!!
 
Played an ugly inning so far after getting dropped once on 5 but it is adding to the total so thats what matters at the moment. :inti
 
In Test history, there have been 70 wicketkeepers to bat in 35+ Test innings. Only three - Adam Gilchrist, Andy Flower, AB de Villiers - average more than Rishabh Pant.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Played an ugly inning so far after getting dropped once on 5 but it is adding to the total so thats what matters at the moment. :inti
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Thats test cricket.

Only quality batsmen make the most of dropped catches and he's done just that. These are priceless runs. Its evident things are not easy out there. 54 is the highest individual score in this test so far.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Thats test cricket.

Only quality batsmen make the most of dropped catches and he's done just that. These are priceless runs. Its evident things are not easy out there. 54 is the highest individual score in this test so far.
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Rishabh Pant is one of the greatest match winner of all-time in my honest opinion. A truly once in many many generations cricketer.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Thats test cricket.

Only quality batsmen make the most of dropped catches and he's done just that. These are priceless runs. Its evident things are not easy out there. 54 is the highest individual score in this test so far.
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Not sure which match were you watching but that was the ugliest test inning from next gilchrist in making. :inti
 
Threw his wicket just like 2019 WC Semi.

Two years and he still can't understand that had he stayed for 10 more overs today, his team might have shared trophy with Kiwis.

Moreover what I hate that people defend him by saying that's how he plays.
 
Thanos said:
Threw his wicket just like 2019 WC Semi.

Two years and he still can't understand that had he stayed for 10 more overs today, his team might have shared trophy with Kiwis.

Moreover what I hate that people defend him by saying that's how he plays.
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And that too after getting dropped once.

Anyway match is not finished yet. :inti
 
Thanos said:
Threw his wicket just like 2019 WC Semi.

Two years and he still can't understand that had he stayed for 10 more overs today, his team might have shared trophy with Kiwis.

Moreover what I hate that people defend him by saying that's how he plays.
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Agree with this. Its like giving him free pass for his senseless batting, time and time again.
 
I personally felt that he started batting sensibly post lunch session because he knew they had to dig in. After lunch, he was leaving the ball well and was showing similar match awareness he showed in GABBA.

He started off poorly, looking to just throw his bat but post lunch, he was batting sensibly.
 
stupid shot after a decent and significant innings

Still he's least of our worries

the trio of Pujara,Rahane,Kohli have been failing too long
 
Thanos said:
Threw his wicket just like 2019 WC Semi.

Two years and he still can't understand that had he stayed for 10 more overs today, his team might have shared trophy with Kiwis.

Moreover what I hate that people defend him by saying that's how he plays.
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Would you have Pujara's tuk tuk before he eventually gets out?Looks all tight and sound,right?
 
Looks like a hack everytime he bats…not the prettiest to watch. Today he was being wild. Needs to calm down.
 
Ab Fan said:
Rishabh Pant is one of the greatest match winner of all-time in my honest opinion. A truly once in many many generations cricketer.
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Be patient bro. Yes he has the potential but to call him one of the greatest match winner of all-time already is a bit far-fetched
 
Just imagine Pant batting after this lineup:

Sehwag
Gambhir
Dravid
Sachin
Ganguly
Laxman

OR

Hayden
Langer
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Symonds

He played very well when one of the top order (like Rahane or KL Rahul or Pujara) had partnership. In that case he will bat more sensibly with right mixture of defense and aggression. At the moment he is being almost exposed to new ball (can you believe it!) with fast bowlers fresh & with so much scoreboard pressure! India are literally like 60/4 or 120/4 in 30 overs. This is the case where opposition are on top of the game and their bowlers are into their 2nd spell after a break!

Pant will be effective (like Gilchrist), ideally if the score is like 320/4 or 260/4 in 100 overs or at least 160/4 or 130/4 in 60 overs. He needs that older ball, his role is to take advantage of tiring bowlers & old ball & dried-up pitch! Everyone has a specific role to play in the team! Gilchrist was the known as Gilchrist because he was the part of "strong" Australian lineup (6 Solid batsmen before him & 4 Giant bowlers after him! That's why he understood his responsibility correctly!)

At the moment Pant is taking huge role of a huge rescuer in this team! (Like S.Tendulkar used to take in 90s...) I don't think Indian team at the moment is such a dumb team to be compared with our 90s team! Throwing out Shastri and throwing out Kohli from captaincy can give better shape to this team.

Coming back to Pant, OK you can criticize him for throwing his wicket & poor shot selection (a bit), but don't put all the blame on him & put the entire batting responsibility on him! Try to get into the position of 260/4 or 130/4 which I explained above!

Kohli is complaisant with his batting (& captaincy) because other batsmen in the team are also batting poorly under him (Pujara, Rahane, Rohit...) I am sure Kohli would have got pinched & understood his responsibility if he was in the team comprising of Sehwag, Dravid, Sachin, Laxman... Perhaps he would have given up captaincy (or at least not behaved like a kid jumping around) if he was in the company of these greats! He is behaving irresponsibly because current Indian team is weak in batting & strong only in bowling (minus swing bowling) & alround ability! So he (and the entire team + management) is having this notion of "Chaltha hai..."
 
He deserves the Damien Martyn treatment for the shot and the T20 approach he adopted on this wicket.
 
Pant! what a costly mistake. Needs to keep a cool head.
 
Saurav said:
Would you have Pujara's tuk tuk before he eventually gets out?Looks all tight and sound,right?
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No one is asking Pujara to play like Pant OR Pant to play like Pujara.
Test cricket needs both Pujara and Pant.
You bring top order failure to defend Pant and I fully agree that top order should've performed better.

What you are ignoring is that top order batsman were out on balls tempting enough to play.
That happens with every batsman in seaming conditions.

But there is no excuse if batsman dances down the wicket and swings his bat when championship trophy is on line.
When team is 6 wickets down and you are playing to avoid defeat.
Had he controlled his urge for few more overs, India could have shared trophy with NZ.
Yes an "ICC TROPHY" that we are waiting since 2013.

The least I expect from an international player is to play to his strength BUT consider the situation first and then decide his shots.

Anyway, you can continue giving him freepass for reckless shot selection.
For me, "That's how Pant plays" has already cost India a berth in WC19 final and WTC championship trophy. (Ofcourse blame is on other players too).
 
Thanos said:
No one is asking Pujara to play like Pant OR Pant to play like Pujara.
Test cricket needs both Pujara and Pant.
You bring top order failure to defend Pant and I fully agree that top order should've performed better.

What you are ignoring is that top order batsman were out on balls tempting enough to play.
That happens with every batsman in seaming conditions.

But there is no excuse if batsman dances down the wicket and swings his bat when championship trophy is on line.
When team is 6 wickets down and you are playing to avoid defeat.
Had he controlled his urge for few more overs, India could have shared trophy with NZ.
Yes an "ICC TROPHY" that we are waiting since 2013.

The least I expect from an international player is to play to his strength BUT consider the situation first and then decide his shots.

Anyway, you can continue giving him freepass for reckless shot selection.
For me, "That's how Pant plays" has already cost India a berth in WC19 final and WTC championship trophy. (Ofcourse blame is on other players too).
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And won us series in Aus.

Pant wouldn't have survived if he tried to play like top order.Doesn't have the technique

So he went for runs and it seemed to be working.He targetted the least effective bowler Boult and tried to attack.And it was a great catch which normally would fall in safe lands.It always looks ugly when it doesnt come off

If it worked we could have another 30 runs and put real pressure on NZ to even win.

Besides he's still young.Will learn to mix caution with aggression over time
 
Saurav said:
And won us series in Aus.

Pant wouldn't have survived if he tried to play like top order.Doesn't have the technique

So he went for runs and it seemed to be working.He targetted the least effective bowler Boult and tried to attack.And it was a great catch which normally would fall in safe lands.It always looks ugly when it doesnt come off

If it worked we could have another 30 runs and put real pressure on NZ to even win.

Besides he's still young.Will learn to mix caution with aggression over time
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Pretty much sums up your understanding of the game. Thanks!
 
Thanos said:
Pretty much sums up your understanding of the game. Thanks!
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His understanding is absolutely correct.

If you take Pant drawing at Sydney and winning us in Brisbane and Ahmedabad then take Southampton as well.
 
Ahmed216 said:
Be patient bro. Yes he has the potential but to call him one of the greatest match winner of all-time already is a bit far-fetched
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Nope its ok to call him greatest now. He has achieved everything in life after playing match winning knocks against Australia. He also got extra lives in those knocks as well. He has a habit of throwing away his wicket initially during his inning. I am sure teams would never like to drop his catch initially because he always make them pay for that mistake later. Luckily for NZ he couldn't do that in WTC final. :inti
 
Saurav said:
And won us series in Aus.

Pant wouldn't have survived if he tried to play like top order.Doesn't have the technique

So he went for runs and it seemed to be working.He targetted the least effective bowler Boult and tried to attack.And it was a great catch which normally would fall in safe lands.It always looks ugly when it doesnt come off

If it worked we could have another 30 runs and put real pressure on NZ to even win.

Besides he's still young.Will learn to mix caution with aggression over time
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It seems he can only be credited for an indian win and can't be credited for a loss ever lol. May be you don't remember australians also dropped his catches in those innings. He should learn to not throw away his wicket. This is the main reason why he was dropped from LOI teams. :inti
 
An outrageously talented batsman and a genuine match winner. Looking forward to watch him replicate the things he did in Australia once again.

He is the only batsman in the Indian squad who gets into Indian WT20 best XI without doing much of note in T20 internationals. It just tells us the kind of reputation and fear factor he possess. A truly once in many generation cricketer.
 
Ab Fan said:
An outrageously talented batsman and a genuine match winner. Looking forward to watch him replicate the things he did in Australia once again.

He is the only batsman in the Indian squad who gets into Indian WT20 best XI without doing much of note in T20 internationals. It just tells us the kind of reputation and fear factor he possess. A truly once in many generation cricketer.
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Thanks for accepting that he hasn't done anything in IT20s which means those who want him out of T20 team have a point too which should be respected. 32 T20s is a pretty good sample size. Others also deserve similar number of opportunities to showcase their talent. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Thanks for accepting that he hasn't done anything in IT20s which means those who want him out of T20 team have a point too which should be respected. 32 T20s is a pretty good sample size. Others also deserve similar number of opportunities to showcase their talent. :inti
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Who'll be your keeper for WT20 team?And what will be top 6?
 
Saurav said:
Kishan has done enough?
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And what special Pant has done so far in 32 T20s? It seems you do not even want to give chance to others. Pant also got to play in the 2019 ODI world cup, not sure what had he done before that to get a chance there? There is nothing wrong in trying new players when one player has already got more than 30 matches and still looks average in that format. He is pretty lucky because there were others who were discarded before even playing 10 games for India. I can see the same happening to Shaw and Kishan in the future. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
And what special Pant has done so far in 32 T20s? It seems you do not even want to give chance to others. Pant also got to play in the 2019 ODI world cup, not sure what had he done before that to get a chance there? There is nothing wrong in trying new players when one player has already got more than 30 matches and still looks average in that format. He is pretty lucky because there were others who were discarded before even playing 10 games for India. I can see the same happening to Shaw and Kishan in the future. :inti
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You want to give chance to players in world cup? Kishan is tried in bilateral series like the ongoing SL matches but wont make a cut for world cup. Pant is the best keeper bat available in the country and is automatic selection in all 3 formats.

But as I said yesterday, you know all these very well too but just trolling.
 
Rajdeep said:
You want to give chance to players in world cup? Kishan is tried in bilateral series like the ongoing SL matches but wont make a cut for world cup. Pant is the best keeper bat available in the country and is automatic selection in all 3 formats.

But as I said yesterday, you know all these very well too but just trolling.
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Thanks for this.I'd replied same.

To add to this,MS Dhoni played almost 10 years without making a T20I fifty yet there was no complaint from this guy.But loves to attack youngsters
 
Rajdeep said:
You want to give chance to players in world cup? Kishan is tried in bilateral series like the ongoing SL matches but wont make a cut for world cup. Pant is the best keeper bat available in the country and is automatic selection in all 3 formats.

But as I said yesterday, you know all these very well too but just trolling.
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Lol what? Then how will they learn to play under pressure? Didn't Pant get a chance in the world cup too? He is still trying to cement his place in both the LOI teams. You can't call it a trolling when someone is giving a solid reasoning and presenting stats here. You on the other hand is living on a different planet and are continuously failing to tell me on what basis he should be selected in the T20 team. That's called trolling. :inti
 
Saurav said:
Thanks for this.I'd replied same.

To add to this,MS Dhoni played almost 10 years without making a T20I fifty yet there was no complaint from this guy.But loves to attack youngsters
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You must be living under a rock when I was criticising Dhoni on this forum then? Or may be you only get hurt when I talk about Pant here? Pant has got 32 T20s under his belt and Kishan has played only 3. We are talking about T20s here not ODIs. He can surpass Pant pretty quickly before you even realise. He too is a youngster just like Shaw but since you worship Pant you couldn't notice that.

You asked me to post my top 6 and I just did that. If I knew you would get so hurt by my Top 6 I would not have posted it lol. :inti
 
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