'Rising Muslim population needs to be curbed, is reason for increase in lynchings" : BJP MP

[Abdullah719]

NEW DELHI: A day after a BJP lawmaker from UP said Hindus should have at least five children to save Hindutva, another BJP leader has said that it's of "grave concern" that the Muslim population is increasing because that's the reason for growing incidents of terror crime and lynching, reported Times Now.

BJP MP from UP, Hari Om Pandey, further said in an interview with the TV channel that at the rate the Muslim population is growing we will see the creation of another Pakistan and that doesn't bode well for India. He further said a bill must be brought in Parliament, applicable to everyone, to control population.

"The main problem in India is because terrorism, crimes, mob lynching are increasing and the reason for this is the population of the country. There's a huge increase in the country's population today compared with the time of independence and the reason for that is one community, that of the Muslims," said Pandey.

The MP from UP's Ambedkar Nagar constituency said that Muslims don't believe in birth control or any form of planning, and Muslim religious leaders say it isn't allowed in Islam.

"They say 'Allah talaa however much our population increases it isn't enough', and because of that terrors, crime lynchings are all rising," said Pandey.

Pandey also said one Pakistan in the neighbourhood is enough - "they just had elections and already they are being called 'Aatankistan' (Terroristan)" - and unless a bill is passed in parliament to curb population "we will produce another Pakistan".

Two days before Pandey's comments, BJP UP lawmaker Surendra Singh said "Hindus must produce at least five children to keep India strong and keep Hindutva intact" in the country, reported news agency ANI.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...jp-mp-hari-om-pandey/articleshow/65158314.cms

 

[troodon]

Well BJP/RSS clowns doing what clowns do and say.

When you have thugs masquerading as politicians in ruling party, these statements are inevitable.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Well BJP/RSS clowns doing what clowns do and say.

When you have thugs masquerading as politicians in ruling party, these statements are inevitable.

Don't know why the things we only discuss in our drawing rooms is making headlines.

 

[troodon]

Don't know why the things we only discuss in our drawing rooms is making headlines.

When an elected representative starts making terrible statements, they are bound to make headlines.

Instead of saying, family planning should be made mandatory for everyone, he says Lynchings are due to increase in rising Muslim population

 

[TM Riddle]

Don't know why the things we only discuss in our drawing rooms is making headlines.

That killed me!

 

[CricketCartoons]

When an elected representative starts making terrible statements, they are bound to make headlines.

Instead of saying, family planning should be made mandatory for everyone, he says Lynchings are due to increase in rising Muslim population

If Hinduism will not be protected in India, then where? Even in Pakistan, despite being close to 98% muslim, and Islamic Republic, had to pass laws for protection of Islam. So don't be lulled into a false sense of security that Hinduism is safe because we Hindus are in majority. We must enact and enforce everything to protect Hinduism from munafiqs.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Don't know why the things we only discuss in our drawing rooms is making headlines.

unless a bill is passed in parliament to curb population

What bill would you like to see passed? How can Muslim numbers be stalled by this bill? If no bill is passed how many years before Muslim population is bigger than the Hindu population?

 

[CricketCartoons]

What bill would you like to see passed? How can Muslim numbers be stalled by this bill? If no bill is passed how many years before Muslim population is bigger than the Hindu population?

If I was a lawmaker, I would pass a bill with one child policy for muslims (two child policy if the first child is not a male). Make conversion illegal and punishable, from any religion to any religion. Atheist views should be punishable by imprisonment. Invoke blasphemy law on anyone who denies existence of Bhagwan. Of course they should be given full freedom and education and health care benefits, as long as other laws are not broken.

 

[KingKhanWC]

If I was a lawmaker, I would pass a bill with one child policy for muslims (two child policy if the first child is not a male). Make conversion illegal and punishable, from any religion to any religion. Atheist views should be punishable by imprisonment. Invoke blasphemy law on anyone who denies existence of Bhagwan. Of course they should be given full freedom and education and health care benefits, as long as other laws are not broken.

If your bill became law but a Muslim family broke this by having more than 1 or 2, would the child be taken away and converted to Hinduism?

In the last census there were 966M Hindus and 180M Muslims. In 7 years since, are they both neck and neck now?

 

[CricketCartoons]

If your bill became law but a Muslim family broke this by having more than 1 or 2, would the child be taken away and converted to Hinduism?

In the last census there were 966M Hindus and 180M Muslims. In 7 years since, are they both neck and neck now?

What kind of inhuman do you think I am? Of course nothing inhuman should be done. The punitive measures are only to make sure the child gets access to more resources.

India is the only piece of land left for us Hindus, if Hinduism is not protected here where will we go? Muslims have the whole world for them. We don't mind our muslim brothers as long as they know their place and treat us like elder brothers. Duty of younger brother is to follow the orders of the elder brother, and our duty is to take care of our younger as we know what is best for them.

 

[KingKhanWC]

What kind of inhuman do you think I am? Of course nothing inhuman should be done. The punitive measures are only to make sure the child gets access to more resources.

India is the only piece of land left for us Hindus, if Hinduism is not protected here where will we go? Muslims have the whole world for them. We don't mind our muslim brothers as long as they know their place and treat us like elder brothers. Duty of younger brother is to follow the orders of the elder brother, and our duty is to take care of our younger as we know what is best for them.

I just wondered what would be the consequences for Muslims if they broke the one child policy law?

India is a huge country, surely you have enough land?

 

[Loralai]

If Hinduism will not be protected in India, then where? Even in Pakistan, despite being close to 98% muslim, and Islamic Republic, had to pass laws for protection of Islam. So don't be lulled into a false sense of security that Hinduism is safe because we Hindus are in majority. We must enact and enforce everything to protect Hinduism from munafiqs.

Could you please let me know which laws were passed in Pakistan explicitly and only for the protection of Islam?

I know there are laws of a religious nature in Pakistan - I am against many of these. We can't move forward until we learn to separate religion from state.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Could you please let me know which laws were passed in Pakistan explicitly and only for the protection of Islam?

I know there are laws of a religious nature in Pakistan - I am against many of these. We can't move forward until we learn to separate religion from state.

If you are against these laws then no point talking to you. How will we answer God Almighty when He asks us what did you do my child to protect the religion I gave you? Will we tell them O dear Father, we let your religion be tarnished and insulted because we wanted to appear liberal among our non hindu friends?

 

[Loralai]

If you are against these laws then no point talking to you. How will we answer God Almighty when He asks us what did you do my child to protect the religion I gave you? Will we tell them O dear Father, we let your religion be tarnished and insulted because we wanted to appear liberal among our non hindu friends?

It isn't about appearing liberal. It is about providing an equality and tolerance for all. Think about Nehruvian ideals of socialism. Don't you think he had the right idea for India's future?

 

[enkidu_]

Casual Hindutva narrative.

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[CricketCartoons]

It isn't about appearing liberal. It is about providing an equality and tolerance for all. Think about Nehruvian ideals of socialism. Don't you think he had the right idea for India's future?

Socialism is fine, whether you protect the rights of farmers and labourers from exploitation, but not at the cost of religion. Dunya is fine, but Akhirah is more important. Nehru was not a secular, he was a trojan hindu who had the title of Pandit but was a muslim by nature. He himself said that he is hindu only by accident. I don't understand you liberals.. who guys talk about preservation of endangered species, but when it comes to preservation of Hindu religion and culture which is under existential threat, you talk about secularism??

 

[KingKhanWC]

Casual Hindutva narrative.

I dont understand the fear? Hindus are 5 X the population of Muslims in India. It would take decades or centuries for Muslims to surpass them in numbers and even if they do it doesn't mean they will wipe out the Hindu's as this didn't happen in the past. Or is it a case of wanting a Hindu land with no Muslims? IF so then they should do some market research to see if Muslims want to separate too and if so, given them more land for a new nation, perhaps Punjab?

 

[CricketCartoons]

I dont understand the fear? Hindus are 5 X the population of Muslims in India. It would take decades or centuries for Muslims to surpass them in numbers and even if they do it doesn't mean they will wipe out the Hindu's as this didn't happen in the past. Or is it a case of wanting a Hindu land with no Muslims? IF so then they should do some market research to see if Muslims want to separate too and if so, given them more land for a new nation, perhaps Punjab?

Yes, hindus are meant to give and give more and bend backwards to accommodate others. The moment we hindu say we can't give any more, we get labeled as extremists. We are good as long as we open our mouth when our masters want to spit.

 

[Loralai]

Socialism is fine, whether you protect the rights of farmers and labourers from exploitation, but not at the cost of religion. Dunya is fine, but Akhirah is more important. Nehru was not a secular, he was a trojan hindu who had the title of Pandit but was a muslim by nature. He himself said that he is hindu only by accident. I don't understand you liberals.. who guys talk about preservation of endangered species, but when it comes to preservation of Hindu religion and culture which is under existential threat, you talk about secularism??

Culture and religion change with times. They always have an always will. Two thousand years ago my ancestor were Hindus. Today my family are Muslim. In another thousand years, who knows what religion they will follow or how they will live their lives.

Instead of trying to perserve religious belief we should learn to adapt and apply them to the world we live in today.

 

[enkidu_]

I dont understand the fear? Hindus are 5 X the population of Muslims in India. It would take decades or centuries for Muslims to surpass them in numbers and even if they do it doesn't mean they will wipe out the Hindu's as this didn't happen in the past. Or is it a case of wanting a Hindu land with no Muslims? IF so then they should do some market research to see if Muslims want to separate too and if so, given them more land for a new nation, perhaps Punjab?

Different Islamic dynasties ruled over Hindus for close to a millennium despite being a minority. Outside historical experience, it's also influenced by the Hindu religion and its caste system : the Kshatriyas, who are the rulers/administrators of the temporal world, are also a minority.

This fear of the "active minority" comes from there.

And I don't think they want to give away lands to Muslims since Pak/BD, they'd probably prefer ghar wapsi (to convert them back to Hinduism), which is more or less a failure in the longer run.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yes, hindus are meant to give and give more and bend backwards to accommodate others. The moment we hindu say we can't give any more, we get labeled as extremists. We are good as long as we open our mouth when our masters want to spit.

Give what? I thought India was a secular country? Hindu's lost control over a thousand years ago now. Muslims ruled, the British and now it's a nation for all isn't it? Are they worried the Muslims or some foreigners will come again to rule over them?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Culture and religion change with times. They always have an always will. Two thousand years ago my ancestor were Hindus. Today my family are Muslim. In another thousand years, who knows what religion they will follow or how they will live their lives.

Instead of trying to perserve religious belief we should learn to adapt and apply them to the world we live in today.

Sorry, our life span is not thousand years that we can wait and watch what happens next. We have seen from our history that we have been killed, oppressed and ruled and still have a bad name despite being on the receiving end all the time. All we want is that let us have whatever we are left with.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Different Islamic dynasties ruled over Hindus for close to a millennium despite being a minority. Outside historical experience, it's also influenced by the Hindu religion and its caste system : the Kshatriyas, who are the rulers/administrators of the temporal world, are also a minority.

This fear of the "active minority" comes from there.

And I don't think they want to give away lands to Muslims since Pak/BD, they'd probably prefer ghar wapsi (to convert them back to Hinduism), which is more or less a failure in the longer run.

Why do you think they have been ruled by a minority so many times, for so long and by people thousands of miles away? Do they not have an ideology of resisting outsiders or did they lack military combat capability? Perhaps the BJP can research this to put their minds at ease.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Give what? I thought India was a secular country? Hindu's lost control over a thousand years ago now. Muslims ruled, the British and now it's a nation for all isn't it? Are they worried the Muslims or some foreigners will come again to rule over them?

We just need to live with self respect, where we are not termed extremists just because we say we are proud to be hindus. All great religions have a country for themselves..judaism, christianity, islam, buddhism, but why no country for hinduism? we are second class citizens in our "own" country.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Why do you think they have been ruled by a minority so many times, for so long and by people thousands of miles away? Do they not have an ideology of resisting outsiders or did they lack military combat capability? Perhaps the BJP can research this to put their minds at ease.

yes, we are aware of our past, and we don't want it to be repeated. passiveness has only harmed us. we must protect our land, our daughters and our culture from foreign invasion. Our very existence is under threat.

 

[enkidu_]

Why do you think they have been ruled by a minority so many times, for so long and by people thousands of miles away? Do they not have an ideology of resisting outsiders or did they lack military combat capability? Perhaps the BJP can research this to put their minds at ease.

IMO it's again linked with the caste system : when you see "your" Kshatriyas lose to Turko-Mongol/Pashtun/Persian conquerors, their role as Kshatriya (ruler/warrior, "defenders of Hinduism") doesn't make sense anymore. So Hindus thought "if our military élite couldn't resist why should we ?" probably.

 

[KingKhanWC]

We just need to live with self respect, where we are not termed extremists just because we say we are proud to be hindus. All great religions have a country for themselves..judaism, christianity, islam, buddhism, but why no country for hinduism? we are second class citizens in our "own" country.

Does the Hindu religion believe in a nation state for Hindu's? I dont think there is a Buddhist state either. Perhaps Hindu's and Buddhists can start their own nation but may have to move somewhere else to do this?

 

[KingKhanWC]

IMO it's again linked with the caste system : when you see "your" Kshatriyas lose to Turko-Mongol/Pashtun/Persian conquerors, their role as Kshatriya (ruler/warrior, "defenders of Hinduism") doesn't make sense anymore. So Hindus thought "if our military élite couldn't resist why should we ?" probably.

Makes sense but why did the Kshatriya fail time and again? They must have had some victories but what was their weakness(s) in stopping outsiders from conquering?

 

[enkidu_]

Makes sense but why did the Kshatriya fail time and again? They must have had some victories but what was their weakness(s) in stopping outsiders from conquering?

When Ancient Pakistan was enlightened by Islam their defense was basically exposed.

See how fast Nader Shah of Persia invaded Mughal emperor Muhammad Rangeela's capital Delhi in matter of weeks (taking away the Peacock Throne and Koh-I-Noor in the process) when tribes from Ancient Pak didn't bother fighting anymore.

Aitzaz Ahsan talks of this in some length in his book "The Indus Saga".

Before Islam many of the Kshatriyas were in fact also of foreign extraction (Scythians, etc)

 

[troodon]

When Ancient Pakistan was enlightened by Islam their defense was basically exposed.

See how fast Nader Shah of Persia invaded Mughal emperor Muhammad Rangeela's capital Delhi in matter of weeks (taking away the Peacock Throne and Koh-I-Noor in the process) when tribes from Ancient Pak didn't bother fighting anymore.

Aitzaz Ahsan talks of this in some length in his book "The Indus Saga".

Before Islam many of the Kshatriyas were in fact also of foreign extraction (Scythians, etc)

Here we go again. Who cares what extraction Brahmins/Kshatriyas or Jatts or Gujjars or Rajputs are? They all melted nicely into the Sanatana Dharma culture and became part of the Subcontinent.

So the Ancient Pakistanis did not care to fight off the invaders because the invader was also a Muslim? Just shows the pathetic mentality of subcontinent people.

 

[enkidu_]

Here we go again. Who cares what extraction Brahmins/Kshatriyas or Jatts or Gujjars or Rajputs are? They all melted nicely into the Sanatana Dharma culture and became part of the Subcontinent.

So the Ancient Pakistanis did not care to fight off the invaders because the invader was also a Muslim? Just shows the pathetic mentality of subcontinent people.

I want to make it clear that I'm not to invent such links with Scythians, etc I've seen Hindu Rajputs, Sikh Jatts, etc talk of that a lot, and with pride as well.

Also, yes the foreigners have been "melted nicely", but what about the Dalits/Adivasis (1/4 of modern Indian pop) ?

It's like in Bollywood : foreigners from the West (Khan's of AfPak/Punjabi-Khatri of the other Punjab) are given the best options, while the native son of the soil toils well below in the hierarchy.

 

[Yossarian]

..... Make conversion illegal and punishable, from any religion to any religion.....

Considering that a religious follower, a believer, a faithful, means that they follow, they believe in, they are faithful to, a particular faith (ie religion!), how can you forciblly prevent someone believing in / not believing in, any particular faith?

Take note of the words in bold.

 

[troodon]

I want to make it clear that I'm not to invent such links with Scythians, etc I've seen Hindu Rajputs, Sikh Jatts, etc talk of that a lot, and with pride as well.

Also, yes the foreigners have been "melted nicely", but what about the Dalits/Adivasis (1/4 of modern Indian pop) ?

It's like in Bollywood : foreigners from the West (Khan's of AfPak/Punjabi-Khatri of the other Punjab) are given the best options, while the native son of the soil toils well below in the hierarchy.

Adivasis are tribals. Only in the last 100 years, they even got western education. Most of them were happily living in Forests where their ancestors lived for hundreds of years.

Regarding Dalits, they were treated badly. But at least they get reservation in jobs, free education, pocket money... etc. You have to understand that there are over 200 million Dalits in India. They will not be uplifted just by giving a few thousand jobs every year.

India is stuck in a huge pile of horse excreta. Poverty and inequality cannot be eradicated at least for another 100 years.

Anyways, the people who claim their scythian or parthian or whatever outside blood, they need to look at their faces in the mirror. No matter where they come from, no Westerner will ever think these guys are white. They all look Indian and they can never erase that Indian look in their faces.

The above applies for Pakistanis too who claim they are Persians or Mughals or Scythians. I have seen many Pakistanis claiming their foreign ancestry. But their pictures tell a different story. Just 4% or 5% of Euro DNA does not mean diddly squat. Majority of those people will have South Asian DNA and hence that Indian look.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Considering that a religious follower, a believer, a faithful, means that they follow, they believe in, they are faithful to, a particular faith (ie religion!), how can you forciblly prevent someone believing in / not believing in, any particular faith?

Take note of the words in bold.

Can you explain in simple and short english. Too many clauses and commas in your sentence. Forgot what you were saying by the time I reached the end.

 

[TM Riddle]

Here we go again. Who cares what extraction Brahmins/Kshatriyas or Jatts or Gujjars or Rajputs are? They all melted nicely into the Sanatana Dharma culture and became part of the Subcontinent.

So the Ancient Pakistanis did not care to fight off the invaders because the invader was also a Muslim? Just shows the pathetic mentality of subcontinent people.

Please don't mention Rajputs in the same sentence as Jatts and Gujjars the later being primarily plebs and thus a very little history to show.
Thanks.

 

[troodon]

Please don't mention Rajputs in the same sentence as Jatts and Gujjars the later being primarily plebs and thus a very little history to show.
Thanks.

Why not?

All are equal and all of us are Indians. Past is history.

 

[enkidu_]

Adivasis are tribals. Only in the last 100 years, they even got western education. Most of them were happily living in Forests where their ancestors lived for hundreds of years.

Regarding Dalits, they were treated badly. But at least they get reservation in jobs, free education, pocket money... etc. You have to understand that there are over 200 million Dalits in India. They will not be uplifted just by giving a few thousand jobs every year.

India is stuck in a huge pile of horse excreta. Poverty and inequality cannot be eradicated at least for another 100 years.

Anyways, the people who claim their scythian or parthian or whatever outside blood, they need to look at their faces in the mirror. No matter where they come from, no Westerner will ever think these guys are white. They all look Indian and they can never erase that Indian look in their faces.

The above applies for Pakistanis too who claim they are Persians or Mughals or Scythians. I have seen many Pakistanis claiming their foreign ancestry. But their pictures tell a different story. Just 4% or 5% of Euro DNA does not mean diddly squat. Majority of those people will have South Asian DNA and hence that Indian look.

Sikhs are generally mistaken for Arabs in the US.

I've been myself mistaken for a Spaniard by someone from Spain (I'm from what you'd call an "upper caste" from the Hindu pov)

I don't think there's an "Indian look".

Punjabis, Bengalis, Tamils, etc are all different ethnic groups.

In Pak cricket compare the Pashtuns like Afridi/YK to the others.

Not about skine tone but facial features.

Because they belong to different ethnic groups.

In fact that'd be controversial but I'd even say that for instance Punjabi itself is not an ethnic group, because of the intra-tribale/caste differences which are also genetic (in Bengal compare a Brahmin with a "lower caste").

We should embrace such diversity instead of locking it up all into a vague and shallow "Desiness".

 

[TM Riddle]

Why not?

All are equal and all of us are Indians. Past is history.

It affects my PP image.
You won't understand.

 

[troodon]

Sikhs are generally mistaken for Arabs in the US.

I've been myself mistaken for a Spaniard by someone from Spain (I'm from what you'd call an "upper caste" from the Hindu pov)

I don't think there's an "Indian look".

Punjabis, Bengalis, Tamils, etc are all different ethnic groups.

In Pak cricket compare the Pashtuns like Afridi/YK to the others.

Not about skine tone but facial features.

Because they belong to different ethnic groups.

In fact that'd be controversial but I'd even say that for instance Punjabi itself is not an ethnic group, because of the intra-tribale/caste differences which are also genetic (in Bengal compare a Brahmin with a "lower caste").

We should embrace such diversity instead of locking it up all into a vague and shallow "Desiness".

Confusing Sikhs to Arabs has something to do with the Turban and beard

There is an Indian look. It varies slightly as you travel from south to North and West to East. But no one ever confuses an Indian to a European. May be 1 in a million might have some blonde hair and colored eyes. Even then, that 1 person will still have Indian look.

May be Afghans descent people in Pakistan might look different to rest of Pakistan and Indians. But they are Afghans.

The facial features you are talking about might vary slightly. But overall, the overlap of people is a bit too much. The commonality is a lot more than the differences.

Again, to a westerner, every subcontient person is an Indian. They cannot tell apart a Gujrati or Sindhi or Marathi or Bengali.

 

[Slim]

Don't know why the things we only discuss in our drawing rooms is making headlines.

Deep post. Severely under-rated.

 

[Slim]

[MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION] as usual taking normies for a ride with his sarcasm.

 

[PakLFC]

The 2019 election campaign in India has started. Let the Muslim bashing commence!!

 

[enkidu_]

Confusing Sikhs to Arabs has something to do with the Turban and beard

There is an Indian look. It varies slightly as you travel from south to North and West to East. But no one ever confuses an Indian to a European. May be 1 in a million might have some blonde hair and colored eyes. Even then, that 1 person will still have Indian look.

May be Afghans descent people in Pakistan might look different to rest of Pakistan and Indians. But they are Afghans.

The facial features you are talking about might vary slightly. But overall, the overlap of people is a bit too much. The commonality is a lot more than the differences.

Again, to a westerner, every subcontient person is an Indian. They cannot tell apart a Gujrati or Sindhi or Marathi or Bengali.

Afghan is a nationality, like Indian or Pakistani. An Hazara or Uzbek or Tajik or Pashtun Afghan don't necessarily look the same (esp. the first two as compared to the latter two). That's why there's no "Afghan look". In the same way a Pak Pashtun doesn't look like a Pak Punjabi, and in the latter itself there's a lot of internal diversity (not even to bring Sindhis, Baloch, ... and their internal diversity as well). So there's no "Pakistani look". In the same way an Indian Punjabi, Indian Bihari, Indian Tamil, etc don't look the same on average. So there's no "Indian look".

And the differences should not be seen on individual but group level : for instance a Pak Pashtun like Fakhar Zaman has a very generic look (could pass basically everywhere ; as a Punjabi, Sindhi, Baloch, Urdu speaker from UP Syed/Pathan family, etc), yet if you take 10 random Pak Pashtuns, 9 would look different (not necessarily for the skin-tone btw but facial features : head shape/nose). In the same way Wasim Akram could pass as Pashtun, but if you take 10 random Pak Punjabis, only 1 would barely pass as Pashtun like him. And so on.

Personally I find the inter-ethnic differences way bigger in Indians than Pakistanis, ofc due to its population, so I find bizarre that it's an Indian who denies the diversity.

Also a Westerner's opinion shouldn't count : for someone from outside the West, English, Swedes, Romanians, Poles, etc are all generic "Whites", because we tend to make "simple" classifications (skintone), but forget about all of that, some in the UK find phenotypical differences within their own groups (English/Scottish/Irish/Welsh), let alone with Italians. Italy being a good example because it's southern part having been influenced by Pheonicians ("Lebanese") and Greeks, southern Italians are known to have a swarthy look.

Also if all Indian ethnic groups looked the same why are the Pashtun-descent/Punjabi-Khatris so over-represented among the leading actors ?

 

[Swashbuckler]

He would say the same thing if Tamils, Dalits and Christians have high population growth rate. The hatred BJP has for many sections of Indian society is shocking. They will definitely win in 2019 but I pray that just like every other instance they miserably fail in Tamil Nadu and Kerala, two states I care deeply about.

 

[CricketCartoons]

He would say the same thing if Tamils, Dalits and Christians have high population growth rate. The hatred BJP has for many sections of Indian society is shocking. They will definitely win in 2019 but I pray that just like every other instance they miserably fail in Tamil Nadu and Kerala, two states I care deeply about.

You are a Tamil Christian? We all respect and admire Tamil Hindus like Dr Swamy, Tamil Muslims like Dr Kalam. Sorry don't know any famous tamil christian, but I hear christianity is increasing in tamil nadu..seen lot of those videos of mass faith healing.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Does the Hindu religion believe in a nation state for Hindu's? I dont think there is a Buddhist state either. Perhaps Hindu's and Buddhists can start their own nation but may have to move somewhere else to do this?

I think you aren't being serious here, as a Brit you know fine well that Hindu culture is usually dropped quite quickly by Indians as they have a hard earned reputation of integration which stubborn Pakistanis could learn from. (But they won't of course).

 

[Yossarian]

Can you explain in simple and short english. Too many clauses and commas in your sentence. Forgot what you were saying by the time I reached the end.

You obviously don't understand the concept of 'belief', or 'to believe' in something. Hence why you posted that nonsense about forcibly preventing someone from converting from one religion to another.

 

[blackanhyellow]

and then some Indians/Pakistanis think Jinnah was wrong in creating Pakistan.

Like things would be all rosy if India and Pakistan were still one country.

If hindus have an insecurity about 200 million, imagine adding 200 million more to the mix.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I think you aren't being serious here, as a Brit you know fine well that Hindu culture is usually dropped quite quickly by Indians as they have a hard earned reputation of integration which stubborn Pakistanis could learn from. (But they won't of course).

Yes but this integration only takes place when living amongst the fair people who are seen by them as advanced, therefore a new identity is born. There are just too many to move into Europe and integrate, it's best to find somewhere local.

 

[CricketCartoons]

and then some Indians/Pakistanis think Jinnah was wrong in creating Pakistan.

Like things would be all rosy if India and Pakistan were still one country.

If hindus have an insecurity about 200 million, imagine adding 200 million more to the mix.

I have always supported Q-e-A's solution. My grievance is not that there is Pakistan, but that we didn't get our Hindustan. Pakistanis got their freedom, we hindus are still fighting for our independence.

 

[blackanhyellow]

I have always supported Q-e-A's solution. My grievance is not that there is Pakistan, but that we didn't get our Hindustan. Pakistanis got their freedom, we hindus are still fighting for our independence.

Yes, the love jihad is converting over 1 million hindus to muslims each day.

in 800 days, all of hindus will be muslims.

You need to act now!

Appeal to the U.N. to give Hindus protected minority status (endangered species).

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yes, the love jihad is converting over 1 million hindus to muslims each day.

in 800 days, all of hindus will be muslims.

You need to act now!

Appeal to the U.N. to give Hindus protected minority status (endangered species).

I think he's getting confused with the Bengal tiger which is endangered. Hindu's are over 900million in India, they will be around for a long time to come.

 

[blackanhyellow]

I think he's getting confused with the Bengal tiger which is endangered. Hindu's are over 900million in India, they will be around for a long time to come.

No, he has a legitimate point.

200 million Indian muslims are meat eaters.

900 million hindus are vegetarians.

one meat eater has the strength of 5 vegetarians.

If you do the math, that means 1 billion strong muslims versus 900 million hindus.

He has the right to be worried!

 

[CricketCartoons]

Yes, the love jihad is converting over 1 million hindus to muslims each day.

in 800 days, all of hindus will be muslims.

You need to act now!

Appeal to the U.N. to give Hindus protected minority status (endangered species).

Love jihad is just one of the attacks on us.

Some are doing land jihad, by purchasing land from hindus and making muslim settlements. Some are doing movie jihad by showing muslims as handsome and irresistible. Some are doing economic jihad by giving their business only to muslims. Some are doing voting jihad, and making non hindu party candidates win. Some are doing food jihad by glorifying biryani and mocking our veggie foods. While some are doing intellectual jihad by turning hindu oppression into a myth and making aurangzeb into a just ruler. hindus needs to wake up from their historical slumber and see that we are being attacked from all fronts. This post must be shared with every hindu, and I urge hindu brothers to make it reach as many hindus as possible.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

This 900 million Hindus compared to 200 million Muslims is misleading. If you consider that all the lands bordering India are also populated by Muslims, then the lands beyond that are the proper hardcore Islamic nations like Afghanistan, Iran and Arabia, then you can see why some Hindus would feel like India is the final Hindu island in a sea of Islamic nations. This is why I have sympathy with the RSS vision of Akhand Bharat. Some Pakistanis might feel offended, but we could always call it something else like Mughalistan or Aurangabad if it keeps the peace. The main intention should be co-existence with relaxed open borders, this would at a stroke get rid of the Kashmir headache.

 

[Adijazz1706]

Too much sarcasm in this thread

 

[enkidu_]

Love jihad is just one of the attacks on us.

Some are doing land jihad, by purchasing land from hindus and making muslim settlements. Some are doing movie jihad by showing muslims as handsome and irresistible. Some are doing economic jihad by giving their business only to muslims. Some are doing voting jihad, and making non hindu party candidates win. Some are doing food jihad by glorifying biryani and mocking our veggie foods. While some are doing intellectual jihad by turning hindu oppression into a myth and making aurangzeb into a just ruler. hindus needs to wake up from their historical slumber and see that we are being attacked from all fronts. This post must be shared with every hindu, and I urge hindu brothers to make it reach as many hindus as possible.

Audrey Truschke defo looks like an intellectual jihadi

 

[CricketCartoons]

Audrey Truschke defo looks like an intellectual jihadi

She may be a jihadi, but not an intellectual. Even I can rip her apart.

 

[Kroll]

I really hope the Muslim population growth in India hits the gas pedal even harder so that it can expand even faster just to keep these buffoons sweating and crying.

 

[kabbirann]

Don't know why the things we only discuss in our drawing rooms is making headlines.

So when BJP leaders talk of culling Muslims they are just reiterating what their supporters say in the privacy of their homes.
Can't say I am surprised.