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Russia slams India’s ties with pro-west alliances, warns against NATO’s return to Afghanistan

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At the Eurasian Forum in Perm, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov issued sharp criticism of India’s growing alignment with Western-led alliances, particularly targeting the QUAD and the Indo-Pacific Strategy. He dismissed the Indo-Pacific concept as a Western construct, asserting it was designed by NATO to counterbalance China and draw India into a confrontational posture in the region.

Lavrov’s remarks were notably pointed given the presence of a 12-member Indian delegation, including three BJP representatives. He revealed that Indian officials had previously assured Russia that QUAD participation was focused solely on trade and economic matters. However, Lavrov highlighted ongoing military cooperation among QUAD nations, including joint naval exercises, contradicting India's stated position and reportedly leaving the Indian delegation taken aback.

Lavrov also warned that NATO appeared to be seeking new ways to re-enter Afghanistan, despite its chaotic exit from the country four years ago. He accused the alliance of trying to reassert influence in the region under the guise of security and stability.

Ahead of the forum, Lavrov held a 40-minute meeting with Pakistani Senator Mushahid Hussain Syed, who thanked Russia for maintaining a neutral stance during past India-Pakistan tensions. Senator Mushahid was the only Pakistani delegate invited to deliver a keynote address at the event, which brought together over 100 participants from 25 countries.

Both Lavrov and Senator Mushahid emphasized a vision of regional cooperation rooted in peace and non-alignment. Senator Mushahid praised Russia’s Eurasian Security Initiative and echoed opposition to military blocs like an “Asian NATO” or the Indo-Pacific Strategy, aligning his views with those of President Putin and China’s President Xi Jinping.

During the forum, Mushahid joined Lavrov and key leaders from China, Türkiye, South Korea, and Cambodia in reaffirming their commitment to building a peaceful, multipolar Eurasian region. Speaking to Russian media, he emphasized Pakistan’s readiness to serve as an equal partner in this vision.

 
First india got a shouting by daddy USA and was told to Ceasefire
Then got a shouting by daddy France for embarrassing them on world stage (rafale jets)
then got told off by daddy china on live TV that the boss is Pakistan
and now daddy Russia has given them a shouting.
 
India should have joined the US-led order a long time ago when the US was actively courting it .. refusing to join was easily the biggest post-independence mistake Nehru made apart from the socialist economy thing.
 
India should have joined the US-led order a long time ago when the US was actively courting it .. that was easily the biggest post-independence mistake Nehru made apart from the socialist economy thing.
US is not trusted partner. They want Balochistan minerals from Pakistan.


:kp
 
Electing a bigot multiple times is probably the biggest mistake India has ever made. The fruits of such a mistake won’t just show today, they’ll be felt for generations to come.
 
Electing a bigot multiple times is probably the biggest mistake India has ever made. The fruits of such a mistake won’t just show today, they’ll be felt for generations to come.
Their foreign policy is a joke. No one is backing them outright on their supposed ‘war on terror’.

Embarrassing scenes.
 
India try to play all sides. Not a reliable partner.

Both west and east should ditch India. LOL. I think it is already happening.

:inti
 
India try to play all sides. Not a reliable partner.

Both west and east should ditch India. LOL. I think it is already happening.

:inti
Been a bad month for india got humilated by pakistan and then USA, Afghanistan & Russia showed them backside

:afridi
 
Been a bad month for india got humilated by pakistan and then USA, Afghanistan & Russia showed them backside

:afridi

They tried to bite more than they could chew. They overestimated their capabilities and standings in the world.

They thought they could behave like Israel and get away. But, India is simply not backed by any country. India has no military ally.

Low-IQ chaiwala made India a laughing stock with "Operation Sindoor". It was an epic failure for them just like 2003 WC final and 2023 WC final.

:inti
 
Typical delusional rant from someone whose country’s entire foreign policy is built on begging loans and playing the eternal victim. Let’s break down your fantasy with some hard facts:

Daddy USA? India isn’t your IMF-obsessed banana republic. India maintains strategic autonomy buys oil from Russia like a boss without giving a damn to sanctions threats, does defence deals with the US, trades with Iran, and maintains a policy independent of any so-called “daddy.” Meanwhile, your country gets dictated terms for every dollar you borrow. 🤣

Daddy France? India signed a $9 billion deal for Rafales, paid upfront (yes respectable nations do that, hard for a Pakistani to understand probably 🤣) and got custom configurations. France called it one of the most successful defence partnerships ever. Your country, on the other hand, can’t even produce a basic trainer aircraft 🤣

Daddy China? India gave China a bloody nose in Galwan. India faced off with China eyeball-to-eyeball at 17,000 ft. Boss? Please. China just parked its boots on your land in Gilgit-Baltistan and you’re too scared to even talk about it. 🤣

Daddy Russia? Russia still supplies over 50% of India’s defence imports. India continues to get S-400s, nuclear submarines, and oil discounts. If that’s a “shouting,” then I’m sure Pakistan would love even a whisper but you’re not even relevant enough for that.

India is a sovereign, rising superpower a member of BRICS, SCO, QUAD, G20, and now a space power too. Pakistan, on the other hand, is a glorified proxy state, bouncing between bailouts and FATF lists, with no credibility, no autonomy, and no future beyond being a client state for whoever throws you scraps.

Everybody knows Pakistan has had daddy issues since 1947 which is why you all always talk about Abbus so much coz you been changing them every decade for convenience or whoever just put more change in your begging bowl at the time 🪙🪙🪙🤣🤣🤣
 
Typical delusional rant from someone whose country’s entire foreign policy is built on begging loans and playing the eternal victim. Let’s break down your fantasy with some hard facts:

Daddy USA? India isn’t your IMF-obsessed banana republic. India maintains strategic autonomy buys oil from Russia like a boss without giving a damn to sanctions threats, does defence deals with the US, trades with Iran, and maintains a policy independent of any so-called “daddy.” Meanwhile, your country gets dictated terms for every dollar you borrow. 🤣

Daddy France? India signed a $9 billion deal for Rafales, paid upfront (yes respectable nations do that, hard for a Pakistani to understand probably 🤣) and got custom configurations. France called it one of the most successful defence partnerships ever. Your country, on the other hand, can’t even produce a basic trainer aircraft 🤣

Daddy China? India gave China a bloody nose in Galwan. India faced off with China eyeball-to-eyeball at 17,000 ft. Boss? Please. China just parked its boots on your land in Gilgit-Baltistan and you’re too scared to even talk about it. 🤣

Daddy Russia? Russia still supplies over 50% of India’s defence imports. India continues to get S-400s, nuclear submarines, and oil discounts. If that’s a “shouting,” then I’m sure Pakistan would love even a whisper but you’re not even relevant enough for that.

India is a sovereign, rising superpower a member of BRICS, SCO, QUAD, G20, and now a space power too. Pakistan, on the other hand, is a glorified proxy state, bouncing between bailouts and FATF lists, with no credibility, no autonomy, and no future beyond being a client state for whoever throws you scraps.

Everybody knows Pakistan has had daddy issues since 1947 which is why you all always talk about Abbus so much coz you been changing them every decade for convenience or whoever just put more change in your begging bowl at the time 🪙🪙🪙🤣🤣🤣

A person with daddy issues will ruin your life, just like Pakistan recently ruined India’s. Messy, chaotic, and y'all pretend you’re fine, but deep down? Y'all shattered.
 
A person with daddy issues will ruin your life, just like Pakistan recently ruined India’s. Messy, chaotic, and y'all pretend you’re fine, but deep down? Y'all shattered.

India : 4 trillion + economy 💪🏻
Pakistan : Where ever they stand, the beggars make a queue behind them. 🤣
 
Everybody knows Pakistan has had daddy issues since 1947 🤣

Harsh but sadly true. Pakistan has always had massive daddy issues. They long to be hyphenated with India instead of striving for higher and better targets.

70 years on, Pakistan is still searching for a stand-alone identity. :unsure:
 
Typical delusional rant from someone whose country’s entire foreign policy is built on begging loans and playing the eternal victim. Let’s break down your fantasy with some hard facts:

Daddy USA? India isn’t your IMF-obsessed banana republic. India maintains strategic autonomy buys oil from Russia like a boss without giving a damn to sanctions threats, does defence deals with the US, trades with Iran, and maintains a policy independent of any so-called “daddy.” Meanwhile, your country gets dictated terms for every dollar you borrow. 🤣

Daddy France? India signed a $9 billion deal for Rafales, paid upfront (yes respectable nations do that, hard for a Pakistani to understand probably 🤣) and got custom configurations. France called it one of the most successful defence partnerships ever. Your country, on the other hand, can’t even produce a basic trainer aircraft 🤣

Daddy China? India gave China a bloody nose in Galwan. India faced off with China eyeball-to-eyeball at 17,000 ft. Boss? Please. China just parked its boots on your land in Gilgit-Baltistan and you’re too scared to even talk about it. 🤣

Daddy Russia? Russia still supplies over 50% of India’s defence imports. India continues to get S-400s, nuclear submarines, and oil discounts. If that’s a “shouting,” then I’m sure Pakistan would love even a whisper but you’re not even relevant enough for that.

India is a sovereign, rising superpower a member of BRICS, SCO, QUAD, G20, and now a space power too. Pakistan, on the other hand, is a glorified proxy state, bouncing between bailouts and FATF lists, with no credibility, no autonomy, and no future beyond being a client state for whoever throws you scraps.

Everybody knows Pakistan has had daddy issues since 1947 which is why you all always talk about Abbus so much coz you been changing them every decade for convenience or whoever just put more change in your begging bowl at the time 🪙🪙🪙🤣🤣🤣
Bhai jaan ap to dil pe hi le gaye :afridi

Don't worry get well soon ❤️
 
India showed its cards way too early. Remember Chinese worked for decades in silence, brought reforms in their country and became a major global power. Still they remain careful and don't go around attacking other nations.

Contrast that with India, a country with sub-Saharan level poverty, which can't even build a half decent fighter jet is acting as if it is some super power. Indians remained in subjugation for centuries and those insecurities come out now when they have the chance to govern themselves.

Economic growth in last 15-20 years have deluded them into thinking that they are a major global power that can play games with China, Russia and US without any consequences. India will have a tough time ahead.
 
India showed its cards way too early. Remember Chinese worked for decades in silence, brought reforms in their country and became a major global power. Still they remain careful and don't go around attacking other nations.

Contrast that with India, a country with sub-Saharan level poverty, which can't even build a half decent fighter jet is acting as if it is some super power. Indians remained in subjugation for centuries and those insecurities come out now when they have the chance to govern themselves.

Economic growth in last 15-20 years have deluded them into thinking that they are a major global power that can play games with China, Russia and US without any consequences. India will have a tough time ahead.

Average Chinese IQ: 100+ (one of the highest in the world).
Average Indian IQ: Less than 77.

Chinese are simply more intelligent and efficient. They are also way ahead of India militarily and economically. It is not even a comparison. :inti
 
Russian backing of Pakistan against India was picked up by some UK analysts during the recent conflict too.

India is being dumped by it's allies faster than NRIs dumped their Indian passports.
 
Coming from a hardcore sanghi news website


Russia’s neutrality during the latest Indo-Pak conflict was due to new Policymaking Dynamics.




Geopolitics today is complex and not all nations can afford to openly take sides in conflicts like the US and Europe. The Western bloc still controls the global trade from the top. It’s always been a strange world, one can also say that none of Pakistan’s traditional and historical religion based friends stayed mute as well as we attacked them. Saudi, UAE etc didn’t utter a word.

Although i for one acknowledge religion based alliances and I know in that sense India will ALWAYS remain isolated because there are no Hindu nations in the work forget about a Top 10 economy level Hindu nations. No country is ever going to stand with us in the name of religion. Pakistan even if they’re 100% wrong will have 1-3 minimum nations standing with them purely in the name of Islam. It is a bitter pill for us to swallow and it’s ok. Luckily that doesn’t matter much. At least not now.

Important thing is business relationships for now. Let the economy grow to an extent business based dependencies are created as we are seeing with Russia-China relation.
 
geopolitically, which nation is more important to Russia, India, or China? You will get all the answers you need.
 
Geopolitics today is complex and not all nations can afford to openly take sides in conflicts like the US and Europe. The Western bloc still controls the global trade from the top. It’s always been a strange world, one can also say that none of Pakistan’s traditional and historical religion based friends stayed mute as well as we attacked them. Saudi, UAE etc didn’t utter a word.

Although i for one acknowledge religion based alliances and I know in that sense India will ALWAYS remain isolated because there are no Hindu nations in the work forget about a Top 10 economy level Hindu nations. No country is ever going to stand with us in the name of religion. Pakistan even if they’re 100% wrong will have 1-3 minimum nations standing with them purely in the name of Islam. It is a bitter pill for us to swallow and it’s ok. Luckily that doesn’t matter much. At least not now.

Important thing is business relationships for now. Let the economy grow to an extent business based dependencies are created as we are seeing with Russia-China relation.

Mr. Bhai Jaan,

I'm glad you’ve acknowledged that before May 10th, India was under the illusion that the entire world, including Arab nations, stood with it and that Pakistan had no support. Even now, despite India sending delegations from country to country, there seems to be little interest in siding with them.

You only have one real ally, Israel and perhaps France. Even Afghanistan is unlikely to support you, especially because of your close ties with Israel. Others will stay neutral if not involved.
 
geopolitically, which nation is more important to Russia, India, or China? You will get all the answers you need.

That’s what the reality is.

But this dynamic is only relevant to India - China matters.

Wrt Pakistan, at best Russia will practice superficial neutrality but we all know how deep the defense ties are between both nations.
 
Mr. Bhai Jaan,

I'm glad you’ve acknowledged that before May 10th, India was under the illusion that the entire world, including Arab nations, stood with it and that Pakistan had no support. Even now, despite India sending delegations from country to country, there seems to be little interest in siding with them.

You only have one real ally, Israel and perhaps France. Even Afghanistan is unlikely to support you, especially because of your close ties with Israel. Others will stay neutral if not involved.

I will do you better. We don’t even count Israel or France much of as allies. Actually we have no true ally. We fully acknowledge our country is culturally isolated from the rest of the world divided in two major religion based blocs. It is what it is. I remain truthful about that.

Having said that, it’s not that we don’t have options. You have to understand that we are a proud nation that doesn’t sell itself in the international markets looking for allies. India doesn’t offer itself as a military base to any bloc.

The Western bloc has been after our life to join them militarily but we have always turned them down.

Honestly we are okay. There is no serious threat to country’s economic growth or national security in the coming decades. We are a strong and secure nation.
 
Mr. Bhai Jaan,

I'm glad you’ve acknowledged that before May 10th, India was under the illusion that the entire world, including Arab nations, stood with it and that Pakistan had no support. Even now, despite India sending delegations from country to country, there seems to be little interest in siding with them.

You only have one real ally, Israel and perhaps France. Even Afghanistan is unlikely to support you, especially because of your close ties with Israel. Others will stay neutral if not involved.
It's funny Indians think the tour of people accused of murderers like Shashi Tharoor and crackpots like Owaisi would convince the world to side with them over Pakistan:ROFLMAO:
 
You all conveniently ignore the part where the whole world just sat and watched India bombarding you deep inside with missiles.

The fact that there has been no serious condemnation of India for crossing this threshold is itself a huge diplomatic victory for India and an embarrassment for Pakistan.

Of course though this is a biased Pakistani forum, where you are all going to conveniently ignore this part.
 
I will do you better. We don’t even count Israel or France much of as allies. Actually we have no true ally. We fully acknowledge our country is culturally isolated from the rest of the world divided in two major religion based blocs. It is what it is. I remain truthful about that.

Having said that, it’s not that we don’t have options. You have to understand that we are a proud nation that doesn’t sell itself in the international markets looking for allies. India doesn’t offer itself as a military base to any bloc.

The Western bloc has been after our life to join them militarily but we have always turned them down.

Honestly we are okay. There is no serious threat to country’s economic growth or national security in the coming decades. We are a strong and secure nation.

The western bloc has been after India to join them militarily for short term purposes. In the end India is not in the west, but failure to align with the eastern bloc they are actually a part of has left their eastern neighbours highly suspicious. Who would trust India now in the east? They know that they are ready to sell out at the drop of an iphone factory.
 
Typical delusional rant from someone whose country’s entire foreign policy is built on begging loans and playing the eternal victim. Let’s break down your fantasy with some hard facts:

Daddy USA? India isn’t your IMF-obsessed banana republic. India maintains strategic autonomy buys oil from Russia like a boss without giving a damn to sanctions threats, does defence deals with the US, trades with Iran, and maintains a policy independent of any so-called “daddy.” Meanwhile, your country gets dictated terms for every dollar you borrow. 🤣

Daddy France? India signed a $9 billion deal for Rafales, paid upfront (yes respectable nations do that, hard for a Pakistani to understand probably 🤣) and got custom configurations. France called it one of the most successful defence partnerships ever. Your country, on the other hand, can’t even produce a basic trainer aircraft 🤣

Daddy China? India gave China a bloody nose in Galwan. India faced off with China eyeball-to-eyeball at 17,000 ft. Boss? Please. China just parked its boots on your land in Gilgit-Baltistan and you’re too scared to even talk about it. 🤣

Daddy Russia? Russia still supplies over 50% of India’s defence imports. India continues to get S-400s, nuclear submarines, and oil discounts. If that’s a “shouting,” then I’m sure Pakistan would love even a whisper but you’re not even relevant enough for that.

India is a sovereign, rising superpower a member of BRICS, SCO, QUAD, G20, and now a space power too. Pakistan, on the other hand, is a glorified proxy state, bouncing between bailouts and FATF lists, with no credibility, no autonomy, and no future beyond being a client state for whoever throws you scraps.

Everybody knows Pakistan has had daddy issues since 1947 which is why you all always talk about Abbus so much coz you been changing them every decade for convenience or whoever just put more change in your begging bowl at the time 🪙🪙🪙🤣🤣🤣

You forgot to mention how you are now the 4th largest economy in the world and also what you did to us long before we were all born back in 1971.
 
You all conveniently ignore the part where the whole world just sat and watched India bombarding you deep inside with missiles.

The fact that there has been no serious condemnation of India for crossing this threshold is itself a huge diplomatic victory for India and an embarrassment for Pakistan.

Of course though this is a biased Pakistani forum, where you are all going to conveniently ignore this part.
The world didn't sit and watch. After less than one week where your population had to switch off the lights and hide under their beds your leadership requested the world to intervene and call a ceasefire and they did.
 
The world didn't sit and watch. After less than one week where your population had to switch off the lights and hide under their beds your leadership requested the world to intervene and call a ceasefire and they did.
🤪
 
The world didn't sit and watch. After less than one week where your population had to switch off the lights and hide under their beds your leadership requested the world to intervene and call a ceasefire and they did.

Was it India who asked Pakistan for a ceasefire ? You are getting your facts wrong. This clip from the foreign minister contradicts your statement. Unless you think he's lying.

 
Clearly visible Modi G has lost the plot, just wait when the region calls out him for water terrorism
 
The western bloc has been after India to join them militarily for short term purposes. In the end India is not in the west, but failure to align with the eastern bloc they are actually a part of has left their eastern neighbours highly suspicious. Who would trust India now in the east? They know that they are ready to sell out at the drop of an iphone factory.

What do you guys smoke?
India has exceptional relations in the East. China isn’t the only big Eastern country. In fact it is China whom the whole of the East resents today. Australia, Japan, Korea, Taiwan and the entire South Asian belt are united against China today and we have growing economic and strategic ties with them and this is exactly what im referring to. We have plenty of options on the table. It’s all about securing the best possible deal for the people without giving away more than we need to.

I know this is Pakpassion and it’s a hobby and a fantasy for a lot of people here to severely undermine India and talk about it like you can do for Pakistan but the reality is we are as an economy, as a military and wrt our options geopolitically levels ahead. Despite the cultural isolation, we are an extremely important nation sitting at a very strategic location and home to soon to be the largest consumer market in the world by far.l and that’s exactly the reason why we were able to cross the international border and make hits inside Pakistani territory and the world just watched. No condemnation. Nothing. Not from world powers. Not even from the so called Muslim bloc (50* nations) lol. That’s clout and we aren’t even 10% of our ultimate potential. Sitting at mere 4 trillion USD and we can do that. Imagine how bad it’s going to be for you when the gap widens even more. I know I one will admit here but this though terrified Pakistanis at nights.
 
Was it India who asked Pakistan for a ceasefire ? You are getting your facts wrong. This clip from the foreign minister contradicts your statement. Unless you think he's lying.

Is this the same foreign minister that the right wing indians doxxed his daughter and threatened to rape her because her dad surrendered?
 
Is this the same foreign minister that the right wing indians doxxed his daughter and threatened to rape her because her dad surrendered?

I have no idea about rape threats or whatever. But I was setting the record straight about the ceasefire. What you said was false.
 
You forgot to mention how you are now the 4th largest economy in the world and also what you did to us long before we were all born back in 1971.

Great nations don’t celebrate their achievements like monkeys. It’s what we do. I hope we don’t need to cut you in pieces again. Not our intention although it won’t be a problem at all. As you saw recently it took us just 2-3 days to bring you to your knees before even using the big toys. That’s how wide the gap is between both nations today.
 
The world didn't sit and watch. After less than one week where your population had to switch off the lights and hide under their beds your leadership requested the world to intervene and call a ceasefire and they did.

Of course you have to make up a story in your head to feel less worse about being born a Pakistani. If it works as a therapy sure.
But obviously we are Indians we live in the real world where it took us 3 days to bring your country to its knees crying for mediation. All with just a few BrahMos hits. That’s all it took to make you all cry.
 
It’s a reality.
As much as India being culturally isolated in a two religion dominated global order.

Yes it's a reality. India is a huge consumer market, and that definitely makes it important in a world dominated by capitalist wolves.
 
Great nations don’t celebrate their achievements like monkeys. It’s what we do. I hope we don’t need to cut you in pieces again. Not our intention although it won’t be a problem at all. As you saw recently it took us just 2-3 days to bring you to your knees before even using the big toys. That’s how wide the gap is between both nations today.

Lol, okay. Whatever makes you sleep better at night. Lagey raho. Enjoy life in your little bubble. Aik din kabhi milna, phir sahi maza ae gha. Tab tak Jai Hind.
 
Lol, okay. Whatever makes you sleep better at night. Lagey raho. Enjoy life in your little bubble. Aik din kabhi milna, phir sahi maza ae gha. Tab tak Jai Hind.

Kyu bhai,
Milke chai nahi pilaoge? I thought the Pakistani tea was fantastic. ☕
 
Soviet Union, which was a godless atheist regime gained close ties to india , those deals are continuing and Russia benefits from the income esp while at war .

However russia after the Soviet Union is now an orthodox Christian nation so naturally will pivot and make new relationships with many nations esp Muslim countries.


Russia also understands India cannot be fully trusted after it's new subservient shift to Israel and the west. Russia isn't going go stop building new partnerships with Pakistan because of india , which has little influence in the world and has no real allies
 
Russia also understands India cannot be fully trusted after its new subservient shift to Israel and the west. Russia isn't going go stop building new partnerships with Pakistan because of india , which has little influence in the world and has no real allies

Pakistan’s path is a lot more tricky than India. You’re already balancing a very messy US-China antagonist world order. The more you tilt towards either partner irks the other one. Add Russian into the equation and you can imagine the chaos it will attract.

Balochistan is a boiling pot. Tou are already unsettled by alleged Indian money and weapons doing to them. The moment Baloch rebels get a sniff of American money and weapons it’s game over. Pakistan cannot afford to antagonize US and Russia to a lesser extent cannot antagonize India even though China is a bigger dependency for them. For this reason alone, Pakistan-Russia will not take off as a major strategic alliance.

Pakistan also has a tricky path ahead when it comes to foreign policy:
 
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