"Sachin Tendulkar is OK. I don't consider him amongst top rank (of batsmen)": Danish Kaneria (2006)

[Slog]

"Sachin Tendulkar is OK. I don't consider him amongst top rank (of batsmen)": Danish Kaneria (2006)

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Very interesting to run into this interview of him uploaded few days ago

https://youtu.be/Wy73ykEHR9s. (2:40 onwards)

"Brian Lara is my favourite, he's one of the best batsmen"

"Sachin is OK but personally I don't feel he's in the top rank, frankly telling you"

 

[Slim]

Oops. Now the challenge is to hate Kaneria for not calling Sachin as some god but to like him for the fake drama he pulled off courtesy Shoaib.

Similar to how the challenge was to beat drums over Shoaib's comments about Kaneria and call him the most truthful human ever and then to hate him for saying that he saw sachin shake his legs because hes a coward.

 

[BaankeJi]

Oops. Now the challenge is to hate Kaneria for not calling Sachin as some god but to like him for the fake drama he pulled off courtesy Shoaib.

Similar to how the challenge was to beat drums over Shoaib's comments about Kaneria and call him the most truthful human ever and then to hate him for saying that he saw sachin shake his legs because hes a coward.

There is no challenge. You can hate and love a person at the same time.

 

[Mamoon]

Tendulkar is a god in his religion and he disrespected him. He has paid a hefty price for it and he must repent if he wants to get his life back on track.

 

[Slog]

Tendulkar is a god in his religion and he disrespected him. He has paid a hefty price for it and he must repent if he wants to get his life back on track.

Pretty much. Shoaibs endorsements and support in India evaporated for a whole year after ‘Sachins legs were shaking’ comment.

 

[Slog]

The cricketing question is what is Kanerias record against Sachin?

Did kaneria dominate Sachin? They played atleast 3 series against each other I believe

 

[Swashbuckler]

Nothing surprising, Tendu was going through a torrid time in the mid 2000s when Kaneria must have faced him, only in 2007 Ire/Eng did he get back his mojo and that resurgence lasted till 2011 WC.

 

[Abdullah719]

The cricketing question is what is Kanerias record against Sachin?

Did kaneria dominate Sachin? They played atleast 3 series against each other I believe

Sachin played in 10 Test matches where Kaneria also played. Kaneria dismissed him once and he scored 82 in that innings.

But overall in these 10 Tests, Sachin made only 468 runs at an average of 36 with 5 fifties.

In comparison, Lara played 5 Tests where Kaneria was also playing and he made 779 runs at an average of 87 with 4 hundreds and a fifty.

Kaneria dismissed Lara 3 times. In those innings, Lara made 130, 0 and 216.

 

[Dead Ball]

Tendulkar was at his worst during the phase when he faced Kaneria. So Kaneria's opinion on him is justified.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

He looks like a blood relative of the Akmals.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Brian Lara is someone who will torture him in his sleep lol What a whoppage in one of the test

 

[Pete Rose]

There's a generation of Pakistani cricketers that dont rate Tendulkar (they dont say it now so much) simply because India's head to head record was not that great against Pakistan in tests or odi's We are talking at least 15 years back.
Its a bit like why Yk is not really an ATG despite all the numbers.

 

[Waleed93]

He looks like a blood relative of the Akmals.

Their IQ levels seem to be quite close as well.

 

[leatherface58]

There's a generation of Pakistani cricketers that dont rate Tendulkar (they dont say it now so much) simply because India's head to head record was not that great against Pakistan in tests or odi's We are talking at least 15 years back.
Its a bit like why Yk is not really an ATG despite all the numbers.

So, you are saying an entire generation of Pakistani cricketers is not very well-informed about the sport they played themselves? That is a bit stiff, mate.

 

[jnaveen1980]

There's a generation of Pakistani cricketers that dont rate Tendulkar (they dont say it now so much) simply because India's head to head record was not that great against Pakistan in tests or odi's We are talking at least 15 years back.
Its a bit like why Yk is not really an ATG despite all the numbers.

Lara doesn't exactly have a good record agianst us. Averaging 34 in 17 tests. We shouldn't rate him then lol

 

[Waleed93]

Shoaib saw Tendulkar's legs shaking while facing him. Now Kaneria calling him an "OK" batsman.

That awkward moment for some of our Indian brothers when they were praising both of them after their recent statements.

 

[Itachi]

Shoaib saw Tendulkar's legs shaking while facing him. Now Kaneria calling him an "OK" batsman.

That awkward moment for some of our Indian brothers when they were praising both of them after their recent statements.

it's not awkward. Everyone has right to have opinion. Just because i praise you doesn't mean you'll have to praise me.

To be fair, in this thread the chaos/toxicity is coming from actually pakistani posters rather than indian ones which we are accused of.

 

[Itachi]

There is no challenge. You can hate and love a person at the same time.

sounds like the relationship with an ex after a bad break up

 

[Waleed93]

it's not awkward. Everyone has right to have opinion. Just because i praise you doesn't mean you'll have to praise me.

To be fair, in this thread the chaos/toxicity is coming from actually pakistani posters rather than indian ones which we are accused of.

True. This is why I mentionned "SOME" of our Indian brothers.

There are a lot of similar toxic Pakistani posters as well.

 

[Pete Rose]

So, you are saying an entire generation of Pakistani cricketers is not very well-informed about the sport they played themselves? That is a bit stiff, mate.

No they dont rate him because:
Tendulkar Test matches
Career average: 53.78
Vs Pakistan: 42.28
5 wins, 5 losses, 8 draws
Tendulkar Odi stats
Career average: 44.89
Vs Pakistan: 40.09
Won games: 31
Lost games: 36.



18 matches

 

[Pete Rose]

So, you are saying an entire generation of Pakistani cricketers is not very well-informed about the sport they played themselves? That is a bit stiff, mate.

No they dont rate him because:
Tendulkar Test matches
Career average: 53.78
Vs Pakistan: 42.28
5 wins, 5 losses, 8 draws

Tendulkar Odi stats
Career average: 44.89
Vs Pakistan: 40.09
Won games: 31
Lost games: 36.

 

[Majid Khan]

Tendulkar, Dravid, Steve Waugh, Kallis were all fine batsmen of the 90s era and great run machines - but watching Lara’s batting was pure magic, even as a Pakistan fan I will confess wanting to see him get a 100 every time I watched him live - yes even against Pakistan. (Of course it’s a different thing that I also hoped WI collapsed and were 150 odd all out v Pakistan but as long as all other batsmen failed and Lara scored a century)

 

[Pete Rose]

Lara doesn't exactly have a good record agianst us. Averaging 34 in 17 tests. We shouldn't rate him then lol

yes, we shouldnt.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Tendulkar, Dravid, Steve Waugh, Kallis were all fine batsmen of the 90s era and great run machines - but watching Lara’s batting was pure magic, even as a Pakistan fan I will confess wanting to see him get a 100 every time I watched him live - yes even against Pakistan. (Of course it’s a different thing that I also hoped WI collapsed and were 150 odd all out v Pakistan but as long as all other batsmen failed and Lara scored a century)

Thought you were gonna put Hafeez in somewhere there lol.

 

[leatherface58]

No they dont rate him because:
Tendulkar Test matches
Career average: 53.78
Vs Pakistan: 42.28
5 wins, 5 losses, 8 draws

Tendulkar Odi stats
Career average: 44.89
Vs Pakistan: 40.09
Won games: 31
Lost games: 36.

Oh I didn't know Tendulkar beat or lost to Pakistan in those games. I thought it was India who was doing that. I guess you learn something new about these experts and how much consideration should be given to their views.

 

[Pete Rose]

Oh I didn't know Tendulkar beat or lost to Pakistan in those games. I thought it was India who was doing that. I guess you learn something new about these experts and how much consideration should be given to their views.

Happy to educate

 

[Slog]

No they dont rate him because:
Tendulkar Test matches
Career average: 53.78
Vs Pakistan: 42.28
5 wins, 5 losses, 8 draws
Tendulkar Odi stats
Career average: 44.89
Vs Pakistan: 40.09
Won games: 31
Lost games: 36.



18 matches

No they dont rate him because:
Tendulkar Test matches
Career average: 53.78
Vs Pakistan: 42.28
5 wins, 5 losses, 8 draws

Tendulkar Odi stats
Career average: 44.89
Vs Pakistan: 40.09
Won games: 31
Lost games: 36.

To add to this I believe 4 of the 5 Test wins came after 2 Ws retired. I’m sure in ODIs it’s even more lopsided

 

[Pete Rose]

To add to this I believe 4 of the 5 Test wins came after 2 Ws retired. I’m sure in ODIs it’s even more lopsided

I would have mentioned that, but I feel we shouldn’t hold his longevity against him. Pakistan still had the potential of Sami (even if sehwag destroyed him), the talent of Saqlain (Sehwag destroyed him as well) and the pace of Akhtar and a young but effective Umar Gul.
As a Pakistani fan, in test matches I was in awe of Sehwag only and maybe latter day Dravid. Tendulkar was ho hum for me.

 

[BreadPakoda]

So, you are saying an entire generation of Pakistani cricketers is not very well-informed about the sport they played themselves? That is a bit stiff, mate.

Kohli needs to prove himself in World Cups and SRT outside them.

Reality is that SRT's multiple match winning innings against them in the World Cups, especially the one's that put an immediate end to their World Cup journeys, were like a dagger that repeatedly ripped through Pakistani hearts.

No wonder Lara with 3 wins, 6 losses, and 3 draws (with marginally better bowlers in Ambrose and Walsh ) against them was more of a match winner than SRT with 5, 5, and 8.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Tendulkar made his debut at the age of 16 vs Pakistan. Next series came after 10 years back. Then another log hiatus. During his peak in the mid 90s he hardly played any Tests. Guys like Sehwag/ Dravid didn't have long breaks. They both had great success. Laxman was not successful against Pakistan. But was excellent against Aussies.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Kohli needs to prove himself in World Cups and SRT outside them.

Reality is that SRT's multiple match winning innings against them in the World Cups, especially the one's that put an immediate end to their World Cup journeys, were like a dagger that repeatedly ripped through Pakistani hearts.

No wonder Lara with 3 wins, 6 losses, and 3 draws (with marginally better bowlers in Ambrose and Walsh ) against them was more of a match winner than SRT with 5, 5, and 8.

During ATG Australian peak 1999-2008 He was one of the best against them. INfact only 4 or 5 guys averaged against them during that time That counts for something.

 

[tyron_woodley]

fair enough. sachin had a lot of peaks and troughs. How did he perform vs wasim is the real question? I don't think he did all that well vs wasim.

 

[CadPakFan]

Just saying in 2006, Sachin averaged 24 in tests that year and 44 in ODIs.

 

[waleed88]

fair enough. sachin had a lot of peaks and troughs. How did he perform vs wasim is the real question? I don't think he did all that well vs wasim.

He barely played against him. Hardly in their peaks

 

[Swashbuckler]

fair enough. sachin had a lot of peaks and troughs. How did he perform vs wasim is the real question? I don't think he did all that well vs wasim.

Sachin dominated Wasim in ODIs and exhibitions, we used to play a lot of the latter those days and based on memory he would be extra aggressive against him. Aaqib Javed, Razzaq, Saqlain and later Akhtar dismissed him many times.

 

[jnaveen1980]

When it comes to Pakistan encounters it is always the support casts that did better than the main casts from India. Mohinder in 1982/83 series. Shastr in 1984 series. Vengsarkar in 1987 series. Manjrekar in 1989 series. Ramesh in 1999 3 test affair. Later on Sehwag and Dravid were the stars against Pakistan.

 

[pillionrider]

I remember watching the thrashing Lara gave him. Kaneria didn't bowl badly actually. In fact, he was quite good. Lara was just in God mode. I recall even the Pak crowd clapping those monster sixes.