[VIDEO] Umar Akmal misbehaves & exposes himself during fitness test; PCB reprimand him [Post# 166]

[adzzy786]

Imagine

Rohit Sharma gets dropped because he's too fat!

That's the difference between PCB n BCCI. Talent matters and has to be looked after. Not made fun of or blind punishments.

Umar is topping the batting charts and is the best batsman in Pakistan currently, best performer in QeA trophy.

Best domestic batsman two years in a row.

Yet this trainer with obviously a grudge against Umar proceeds to make fun of him. And PCB instead of protecting him like Rohit is protected, starts giving lame statements.

First of all the trainer has worked with Umar Akmal for years, so this theory you’ve just made up clearly has no substance that he has a grudge against him.

It’s the PCB’s fault that Umar Akmal pulled his pants down?

You keep mentioning that he’s talented so he should be protected. Assuming that this is the case, your trying to say someone should not be held accountable if they are talented? He should be able to get away with things because he’s talented and should be protected? Why wouldn’t he be bound by the same rules as every other person or player. Clearly your argument is a fail

 

[Saj]

Salman Butt "I just spoke to my coach and he said nothing concerning me regarding whatever is in the news today"

 

[Savak]

Oh my goodness, is the thread title literal and real, like UA really pulled his pants down?

 

[Hitman]

Oh my goodness, is the thread title literal and real, like UA really pulled his pants down?

Of course it is.

 

[Green Patriot]

What the hell?? I can't even....???
How can he do that? I am at a loss for words.

 

[Zaz]

So yes, that is your hate speaking.

Point is, you give your best and talented some leeway. Rohit wouldn't pass the "fats" test either.

Umar is our best domestic batsman. Two years in a row. Centuries in both the finals.

So, you hating him and not wanting to see him means nothing.

PCB needs to protect him over this lame stuff. World T20 is near.

U Akmal needs pakistan cricket not the othet way round
As far as im concerned he should never be looked at again When is enough?

 

[khan_aa]

did salman butt fail his test also?

 

[shah_1]

According to this article Skin fold test isn't accurate and DNA testing is more appropriate

As compared to skinfold test which was a part of Indian cricket team’s fitness has now become less beneficial because of lack of accuracy and this is the reason why BCCI decided to switch to DNA test.

“Skinfold test was used primarily for a long time but it was found out that results related to body fat percentage were not accurate enough. Then there was a switch to DEXA test for calculation of body fat percentage.

“The DNA test is being done so that the body’s needs are known to maintain a particular fat percentage,” the official, who is aware of the module, further added.

He also pointed out some of the mistakes cricketers have been making.

“Some of them are having copious amount of milk since childhood as it is a common belief that milk gives you strength. Then they found out that despite training, their body is not able to measure up to the demands of modern-day game.

https://thecricketlounge.com/2017/11/bcci-new-fitness-test-dna/

 

[Wiji]

It is very clear that he has mental problem, and it could very well be physical.

Instead of criticizing him, PCB should arrange a brain MRI and get appointments with the leading psychologist and psychiatrist in the country.

This.
Sounds like another Mark Vermeulen in the making.
He might have been struck on the helmet a few times in his career.
Ahmed Shehzad is another one who I always felt was affected by the traumas to the head.
I hope these guys get treated/diagnozed properly but I highly doubt they will.
Apparently there are only about 500 psychiatrists in Pakistan. That's 1 for every 400,000 people or so!

 

[Hitman]

This.
Sounds like another Mark Vermeulen in the making.
He might have been struck on the helmet a few times in his career.
Ahmed Shehzad is another one who I always felt was affected by the traumas to the head.
I hope these guys get treated/diagnozed properly but I highly doubt they will.
Apparently there are only about 500 psychiatrists in Pakistan. That's 1 for every 400,000 people or so!

Off topic, but just 500 psychiatrists in the whole country? It can’t be true.

 

[JaDed]

) WTH hilarious news I have read in a while.. eventhough it might not been true but coz its UA it sounds plausible and funny.

 

[Hawkeye]

According to this article Skin fold test isn't accurate and DNA testing is more appropriate




https://thecricketlounge.com/2017/11/bcci-new-fitness-test-dna/

Yes. Nobody picks players based on this metric.

Except some deehati working in the PCB. Now this trainer obviously is riled up at something.

) WTH hilarious news I have read in a while.. eventhough it might not been true but coz its UA it sounds plausible and funny.

Doesn't appear to be true.

No evidence he pulled down his pants.. till now, it's media saying things which aren't confirmed by the PCB.

 

[ind_win]

Off topic, but just 500 psychiatrists in the whole country? It can’t be true.

From 2017 statistics, as per this article it is true ;
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(16)30447-3/fulltext

 

[Hawkeye]

First of all the trainer has worked with Umar Akmal for years, so this theory you’ve just made up clearly has no substance that he has a grudge against him.

It’s the PCB’s fault that Umar Akmal pulled his pants down?

You keep mentioning that he’s talented so he should be protected. Assuming that this is the case, your trying to say someone should not be held accountable if they are talented? He should be able to get away with things because he’s talented and should be protected? Why wouldn’t he be bound by the same rules as every other person or player. Clearly your argument is a fail

He didn't pull his pants down. If he did, there should be some verification by the PCB. It's all masala till now

If he did that, then he should be fined and reprimanded.

Selection has nothing to do with it though, a single isolated incident.

 

[Abdullah719]

He didn't pull his pants down. If he did, there should be some verification by the PCB. It's all masala till now

If he did that, then he should be fined and reprimanded.

Selection has nothing to do with it though, a single isolated incident.

You really think that PCB is going to do a press release announcing this if it happened?

The proof will be in the punishment. Let's see what happens.

 

[Hawkeye]

You really think that PCB is going to do a press release announcing this if it happened?

The proof will be in the punishment. Let's see what happens.

Unless there's confirmation by an authentic third party, you really think media reports like these can be trusted?

 

[Abdullah719]

Unless there's confirmation by an authentic third party, you really think media reports like these can be trusted?

No smoke without fire. Enough media outlets are reporting it.

 

[Abdul]

You really think that PCB is going to do a press release announcing this if it happened?

The proof will be in the punishment. Let's see what happens.

Do you not know that the whole world is against Umar Akmal?

 

[Bewal Express]

Unless there's confirmation by an authentic third party, you really think media reports like these can be trusted?

The guy is a *****, and it will be true. A proper waste man, badly advised, poor attitude, and brainless.

 

[Adnan_Ilyas]

Kamran Akmal is in trouble too after failing his fitness test by a large margin

 

[coy0607]

we really really need a reality TV show following the Akmal family around, just documenting their fascinating lives.
Umar Akmal has the potential to be the most popular and entertaining person in South-Asia

 

[coy0607]

I have long suspected that chota Akmal suffers from some sort of mental disorder. This just confirms it.

more likely just illiterate

 

[Saj]

we really really need a reality TV show following the Akmal family around, just documenting their fascinating lives.
Umar Akmal has the potential to be the most popular and entertaining person in South-Asia

Pakistani version of Keeping up with the Kardashians.

 

[Green Patriot]

Unless there's confirmation by an authentic third party, you really think media reports like these can be trusted?

Many media outlets have reported that Umar exposed himself 'completely'. What else does that suggest. And they have also written that PCB has confirmed to them that they are fully aware of this incident. What other authenticity can you possibly require?

 

[ahmedzee]

It’s time to move away from akmals. Kamran was the best and given us a lot in international cricket. But the chapter is closed and we should look away from them.

 

[Mirpur express]

So yes, that is your hate speaking.

Point is, you give your best and talented some leeway. Rohit wouldn't pass the "fats" test either.

Umar is our best domestic batsman. Two years in a row. Centuries in both the finals.

So, you hating him and not wanting to see him means nothing.

PCB needs to protect him over this lame stuff. World T20 is near.

Never said I hate him!! nor would I hate on anyone but I have seen a lot of cricket & cricketers over the years to know what one has to offer, hence I consider Umar “with all his natural talent “ USELESS
& you going on about useless Akmal & his talent means nothing.

 

[Forum363]

Only in Pakistan would these glorified tail enders have been given hundreds of chances in International cricket despite averaging in the 20s, being unfit and rude, and having at best average strike rates.

And yet the amount of support they always get in mind boggling.

Luckily for us, they seem to be their own worst enemies and have provided other reasons for their exclusion from the team. Every time a news story like this breaks, I think - Thank God. Now the clueless selectors won't pick them for the next few months at least.

 

[sshakir411]

Paindus still supporting these clowns. State of Pakistanis is disturbing tbh

 

[Junaids]

Really tough to be a Umar Akmal fan .... supporting the guy is like helping North Korea - few years back, during food crisis, China sent a Cargo train full of food staff for North Korea - Kim’s army took charge of the train, then arrested the crews on suspicion of espionage.

It’s hard to be a Pakistan fan - everything is unprofessional and selective.

They schedule a 3 day Test warm-up match, 28-30 January, and after the geriatric skipper fails in the first innings they hide the scorecard for the second innings from publication.

We only ever find out what the people in power in Pakistan cricket want us to find out.

 

[Mueez]

These brothers are a disgrace for Pakistan.

We are ready to disown them.

 

[Bewal Express]

Kamran Akmal is in trouble too after failing his fitness test by a large margin

Maybe they should offered a plate of biryani as a reward for passing the test.

 

[chazam]

It’s hard to be a Pakistan fan - everything is unprofessional and selective.

They schedule a 3 day Test warm-up match, 28-30 January, and after the geriatric skipper fails in the first innings they hide the scorecard for the second innings from publication.

We only ever find out what the people in power in Pakistan cricket want us to find out.

Wow did this really happened??

 

[chazam]

Akmals ko fitness ka Masla pad gaya.. lolz... waiting for more bitter commentary by senior Akmal in future

 

[Hasan123]

This guy is just an absolute clown these days.

 

[Savak]

Lol I think the complainant is scarred for life after seeing what he saw, maybe he had a chuckle as well that what he saw was the exact size of UA's brain

 

[kingusama92]

According to reports, Umar Akmal 'completely exposed himself'...
.

This guy and fitness tests are now a legendary duo.

 

[Junaids]

This is just utterly trivial - why is this considered an offence?

He didn’t walk down the street naked!

This is a more minor transgression than Anderson and Broad urinating on the pitch when they won the Ashes.

 

[PakLFC]

Why do we keep considering such losers for national duty? The show has been well over for both Kamran and Umer Akmal ages ago. There is nothing more for these two to offer even if they have been doing well at domestic level. Always unfit and always rude some years back we were comparing Umer to Virat Kohli, just look at where they both stand now Our lad has always been more interested in partying and dancing then Cricket. His problem is the disease called "victim mentality" where it's always someone else's fault.

 

[Indiafan]

This is just utterly trivial - why is this considered an offence?

He didn’t walk down the street naked!

This is a more minor transgression than Anderson and Broad urinating on the pitch when they won the Ashes.

Yes personally attacking your trainer by exposing yourself, just because you didn't pass a test, is trivial. I always love the hypocrisy in your posts. When its your favorite like Amir and Akmal, downplay every thing. Then accuse other players of fixing or being ill disciplined or claim everyone does it without proof. The double standards are so staggering its almost funny.

You always accuse other players and countries of every single thing without a shred of proof. And when your favorites are actually caught with their pants down (literally in this case), downplay and make a million excuses

 

[Junaids]

Yes personally attacking your trainer by exposing yourself, just because you didn't pass a test, is trivial. I always love the hypocrisy in your posts. When its your favorite like Amir and Akmal, downplay every thing. Then accuse other players of fixing or being ill disciplined or claim everyone does it without proof. The double standards are so staggering its almost funny.

You always accuse other players and countries of every single thing without a shred of proof. And when your favorites are actually caught with their pants down (literally in this case), downplay and make a million excuses

Look, it’s poor behaviour but what you get from uneducated people like the Akmals or Maradona or Suarez or Tevez.

Frankly on a scale of unprofessionalism it’s a much lower offence than Misbah picking a teenage fast bowling dwarf with 6 wickets in 4 games at an average of 75, and it’s a lower offence than Waqar claiming that Imran Khan’s domestic performances justified his recall.

But this is Pakistan. People fawn all over incompetent and unqualified people like Misbah and all over Waqar who wears his lack of preparation and knowledge like a medal. And they pile in to attack an uneducated man when he behaves like an uneducated man.

I repeat, Umar Akmal’s transgression is having too much body fat, not having a small dummy spit. And it’s a far smaller offence than Misbah selecting Musa or Imran or making a geriatric and failing Azhar into the skipper.

 

[JattMaula]

we really really need a reality TV show following the Akmal family around, just documenting their fascinating lives.
Umar Akmal has the potential to be the most popular and entertaining person in South-Asia

I don't watch reality TV but I will watch every second of this.

Just imagine the shenanigans. )

 

[Indiafan]

BTW, although the skin fold method is not the best one, the cut off for body fat for Pakistan is 23% (same as india and NZ)

So it's not like it's too strict. A normal Joe will have body fat in this range, let alone sports person

 

[Indiafan]

Look, it’s poor behaviour but what you get from uneducated people like the Akmals or Maradona or Suarez or Tevez.

Frankly on a scale of unprofessionalism it’s a much lower offence than Misbah picking a teenage fast bowling dwarf with 6 wickets in 4 games at an average of 75, and it’s a lower offence than Waqar claiming that Imran Khan’s domestic performances justified his recall.

But this is Pakistan. People fawn all over incompetent and unqualified people like Misbah and all over Waqar who wears his lack of preparation and knowledge like a medal. And they pile in to attack an uneducated man when he behaves like an uneducated man.

I repeat, Umar Akmal’s transgression is having too much body fat, not having a small dummy spit. And it’s a far smaller offence than Misbah selecting Musa or Imran or making a geriatric and failing Azhar into the skipper.

But all the other players you named have actual performances which gavd them leeway. If Akmal had performed like Imran or Wasim it would be lenient for him too but here he is almost on probation

 

[MMHS]

It’s hard to be a Pakistan fan - everything is unprofessional and selective.

They schedule a 3 day Test warm-up match, 28-30 January, and after the geriatric skipper fails in the first innings they hide the scorecard for the second innings from publication.

We only ever find out what the people in power in Pakistan cricket want us to find out.

Not only the train crews were arrested, they were released without any charge within 24 hours, may be of the pressure from Chinese Embassy ..... then made to return home ... walking - the North Koreans kept the train as well!!!!!

Coming to this incident, yes there are many unprofessional incidents in PAK cricket, but this one, if true is completely one persons fault - Umar Akmal. Anyone, even partially insane can see that Umar Akmal is unfit and over weight - if the test was to measure fat level, not cricket talent, he is bound to fail. The problem is not even there - problem is, one brother blamed Mickey Arthur for his failure (as if, its Arthur who is culprit here to demand some fitness standards from his players), and another brother had a go at the guy assessing the fitness level. From the text, what I understand is they used some process to measure his fat level, which is a standard reading and Umar Akmal failed - then he dished out his frustration on the poor fellow who was doing his job!!

Having said that, yes for two years even under Arthur, Sarfraz Ahmed & Imad Wasim passes YoYo mark of 18, so obviously every test & bench marking wasn’t black & white under PCB.

Not aware of the scorecard issue actually - not sure if Azhar is that vulnerable to be at risk for two failures in a practice game, specially after scoring a hundred in his last Test innings - I give PCB a benefit of doubt here, may be it’s some other issues there than hiding Azhar’s failure.

 

[Abdul]

Look, it’s poor behaviour but what you get from uneducated people like the Akmals or Maradona or Suarez or Tevez.

Frankly on a scale of unprofessionalism it’s a much lower offence than Misbah picking a teenage fast bowling dwarf with 6 wickets in 4 games at an average of 75, and it’s a lower offence than Waqar claiming that Imran Khan’s domestic performances justified his recall.

But this is Pakistan. People fawn all over incompetent and unqualified people like Misbah and all over Waqar who wears his lack of preparation and knowledge like a medal. And they pile in to attack an uneducated man when he behaves like an uneducated man.

I repeat, Umar Akmal’s transgression is having too much body fat, not having a small dummy spit. And it’s a far smaller offence than Misbah selecting Musa or Imran or making a geriatric and failing Azhar into the skipper.

Nice to see you moaning as always.

 

[amvbfm]

Not surprised. He is beyond redemption. Shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the domestic setup let alone the Pakistan cricket team. The only thing more absurd than his sense of entitlement and general stupidity is the support he gets from people here and in the media following his brain-dead antics.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Only in our country would losers like Akmals still be in contention, after letting down the same country countless times throughout their careers.

The media pressure for including them is tremendous. I must applaud these jokers who sit on TV shows and consistently call for either Akmal to be included, then go through this inevitable beizzati time and again.

The PCB does not owe anything to the Akmals. At the end of the day it's the individual's responsibility to become the best player he can be, and in this case, become a better human being.

 

[Hitman]

Look, it’s poor behaviour but what you get from uneducated people like the Akmals or Maradona or Suarez or Tevez.

Frankly on a scale of unprofessionalism it’s a much lower offence than Misbah picking a teenage fast bowling dwarf with 6 wickets in 4 games at an average of 75, and it’s a lower offence than Waqar claiming that Imran Khan’s domestic performances justified his recall.

But this is Pakistan. People fawn all over incompetent and unqualified people like Misbah and all over Waqar who wears his lack of preparation and knowledge like a medal. And they pile in to attack an uneducated man when he behaves like an uneducated man.

I repeat, Umar Akmal’s transgression is having too much body fat, not having a small dummy spit. And it’s a far smaller offence than Misbah selecting Musa or Imran or making a geriatric and failing Azhar into the skipper.

So the justification for Umar Akmal's idiocy is that there are people who have displayed bigger amount of idiocy?

 

[Shazzam]

Umar Akmal will go down as our Peterson. Talented guy who got wasted due to overdosage of talent.

 

[angrypathan]

Umar Akmal will go down as our Peterson. Talented guy who got wasted due to overdosage of talent.

Nope. Pietersen will be remembered as one of England's greatest ever batsmen. Umar Akmal will be remembered as a clown.

Closest cricketing equivalent to Umar Akmal I can think of would be Vinod Kambli

 

[Rellu_Katta]

I would love to see how this idiot twists it to "the foreign white man was abusing my country and my family and i took the revenge".

the Akmal brothers are the worst thing to happen to pak cricket for a long long time

the shamless clan is just next level garbage of pak cricket ...

 

[Hitman]

Nope. Pietersen will be remembered as one of England's greatest ever batsmen. Umar Akmal will be remembered as a clown.

Closest cricketing equivalent to Umar Akmal I can think of would be Vinod Kambli

I'd say Sreesanth. Both equally loose on the head.

 

[Master Blaster]

PCB should show some respect to senior players. Such public humiliation of talented players is not on.

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

The Pakistani public to the Akmals: "Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me 38,000 times, shame on you."

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

Also, am absolutely flabbergasted by some of the posters here defending Akmal or deflecting from his behaviour (looking at you specifically [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] and [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]).
[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] - the Rohit mentions are tiresome and inaccurate because Sharma has demonstrated consistent fitness where it matters, I.e. by playing long one day knocks and having a good standard of ground fielding. Plus if Pakistan had the 10 other guys who were Panthers in the field, you could carry Umar Akmal but that's not the case. Cricket like most other sports is a game of margins. Unfit players can contribute to the following:
Dropped catches, Missed run outs because of misfields/slow fielding, pressure releasing singles conceded because of slow fielding, players not being able to play long innings/rotate strike because of lack of stamina. And that's not to add the mental focus and sharpness that overweight players regularly lack, because their hearts have do more work to circulate around their fat bodies. It's high time that Pakistan create a culture of fitness, from under age groups and domestic all the way to the international team. Sacrificing 'talents' like the Akmals to do so is a small price to pay...
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] - Regarding Akmal, the 'uneducated' crutch is an easy get out. There are plenty of people without a formal education (Younis Khan et al) who recognised the clear connection between fitness, hard work and performance. Yet you try yo deflect from this with your Misbah bashing agenda. Call a spade a spade. This lad has a history of previous and even if half of what he's accused of is accurate, he shouldn't even be in Domestic, as he serves as a bad example to the younger kids

 

[Waleed93]

The PCB will not get a better chance to get rid of this clown.

 

[topspin]

Look, it’s poor behaviour but what you get from uneducated people like the Akmals or Maradona or Suarez or Tevez.

Frankly on a scale of unprofessionalism it’s a much lower offence than Misbah picking a teenage fast bowling dwarf with 6 wickets in 4 games at an average of 75, and it’s a lower offence than Waqar claiming that Imran Khan’s domestic performances justified his recall.

But this is Pakistan. People fawn all over incompetent and unqualified people like Misbah and all over Waqar who wears his lack of preparation and knowledge like a medal. And they pile in to attack an uneducated man when he behaves like an uneducated man.

I repeat, Umar Akmal’s transgression is having too much body fat, not having a small dummy spit. And it’s a far smaller offence than Misbah selecting Musa or Imran or making a geriatric and failing Azhar into the skipper.

Totally agree with this.

No one can condone what Umar Akmal did but he's irrelevant now. The problematic duo who are destroying Pakistan cricket are Misbah and Waqar, not Kamran and Umar.

 

[Markhor]

It must be April Fool's because nobody can seriously compare Umar Akmal to the likes of Maradona, Suarez and Tevez.

Even Younis Khan was extremely difficult to manage but he did his talking with the bat scoring 10k Test runs.

What the hell has Umar Akmal done to earn such backing ?

 

[Junaids]

As a psychiatrist I will say only this.

The talent you have in international sport is all you are getting. You can’t buy or trade or draft in replacements.

As England learned with KP and Australia learned with Dave Warner, but most importantly NZ learned with Chris Cairns and Adam Parore (after trying to replace them with the inferior Chris Harris and Lee Germon):

1. Identify your most talented players.

2. Manage them in, not out of your team. Manage their narcissistic nonsense (viz Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar et al) and don’t overreact to trivial nonsense like this example. Pakistan keep losing in SENA because they haven’t picked Umar Akmal there since 2010, and every replacement has been better behaved but inferior at batting.

 

[happydavy]

Off topic, but just 500 psychiatrists in the whole country? It can’t be true.

That's ok, India has around 5000-6000 as most medical college have 1-2 seats for MD psychiatry, which is less than 5% of total MD seats.

 

[Saj]

Asked Umar if he is going to deny this news if it is false.

No reply.....

 

[salman24]

As a psychiatrist I will say only this.

The talent you have in international sport is all you are getting. You can’t buy or trade or draft in replacements.

As England learned with KP and Australia learned with Dave Warner, but most importantly NZ learned with Chris Cairns and Adam Parore (after trying to replace them with the inferior Chris Harris and Lee Germon):

1. Identify your most talented players.

2. Manage them in, not out of your team. Manage their narcissistic nonsense (viz Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar et al) and don’t overreact to trivial nonsense like this example. Pakistan keep losing in SENA because they haven’t picked Umar Akmal there since 2010, and every replacement has been better behaved but inferior at batting.

I nominate this for POTW. Couldn't agree more !

 

[Hawkeye]

As a psychiatrist I will say only this.

The talent you have in international sport is all you are getting. You can’t buy or trade or draft in replacements.

As England learned with KP and Australia learned with Dave Warner, but most importantly NZ learned with Chris Cairns and Adam Parore (after trying to replace them with the inferior Chris Harris and Lee Germon):

1. Identify your most talented players.

2. Manage them in, not out of your team. Manage their narcissistic nonsense (viz Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar et al) and don’t overreact to trivial nonsense like this example. Pakistan keep losing in SENA because they haven’t picked Umar Akmal there since 2010, and every replacement has been better behaved but inferior at batting.

Quite right! About how such players should be managed.

You're wrong about SENA losses though.

We were losing there before 2010 too, even when we had legends like Inzi, Moyo, Wasim, Akhtar etc.

We've never won a Test series in SA. Keep getting whitewashed in Aus since the 90s.

It's under Misbah we did start to win. Drew in Eng.

Even became unbeatable at home. Past teams weren't unbeatable at home.

 

[dildilpak]

As a psychiatrist I will say only this.

The talent you have in international sport is all you are getting. You can’t buy or trade or draft in replacements.

As England learned with KP and Australia learned with Dave Warner, but most importantly NZ learned with Chris Cairns and Adam Parore (after trying to replace them with the inferior Chris Harris and Lee Germon):

1. Identify your most talented players.

2. Manage them in, not out of your team. Manage their narcissistic nonsense (viz Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar et al) and don’t overreact to trivial nonsense like this example. Pakistan keep losing in SENA because they haven’t picked Umar Akmal there since 2010, and every replacement has been better behaved but inferior at batting.

What nonsense - you are talking about UA as if he was the second coming of Jesus & the only difference between a SENA victory or loss.

As much as you try to make it about UA’s talent & try to defend his transgressions, you have to know that his numbers inspite of numerous chances dont back any faith in him. Plus what did him in was not just the lack of numbers but also a massive ego, sense of entitlement & inability to identify his issues. The simplest explanation to this is that UA & his brother dear could hardly ever be bothered to improve but wanted everything to be handed to them on a platter. Certainly not a good match for a team game like Cricket.

The comparision with Ronaldo, Neymar or even KP is ludicrous to say the least, because those guys have/had performances to backup their behavior. Umar Akmal is neither here nor there, hence deserves to be nowhere.

 

[kingusama92]

As a psychiatrist I will say only this.

The talent you have in international sport is all you are getting. You can’t buy or trade or draft in replacements.

As England learned with KP and Australia learned with Dave Warner, but most importantly NZ learned with Chris Cairns and Adam Parore (after trying to replace them with the inferior Chris Harris and Lee Germon):

1. Identify your most talented players.

2. Manage them in, not out of your team. Manage their narcissistic nonsense (viz Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar et al) and don’t overreact to trivial nonsense like this example. Pakistan keep losing in SENA because they haven’t picked Umar Akmal there since 2010, and every replacement has been better behaved but inferior at batting.

KP and David Warner may die of embarrassment after being compared to Umar Akmal.

After 16 Tests

Umar Akmal - 35.82 AVG (1 Century)
Kevin Pietersen - 46.55 AVG (4 100s)
David Warner - 47.75 AVG (3 100s)

 

[Junaids]

KP and David Warner may die of embarrassment after being compared to Umar Akmal.

After 16 Tests

Umar Akmal - 35.82 AVG (1 Century)
Kevin Pietersen - 46.55 AVG (4 100s)
David Warner - 47.75 AVG (3 100s)

You left out the fact that at that point Umar Ajmal was 21 years old!

He has been the MatchWinner and Man of the Match in two consecutive QEA Finals.

He was sent back to domestic cricket to prove himself.

He did it.

And now because he’s a dumb ignorant fool he isn’t getting picked anyway.

When two of the Pakistan Top Six averaged under 30 in the last ten Tests.

 

[Hitman]

Remember how he faked an injury just because his brother was dropped, that too after he played just 2-3 Tests/ODI's. Now tell me if he isn't a little loose on the head.

 

[amvbfm]

It is utterly foolish to blame PCB for not handling him well. If anything people like Umar Akmal and Shahzad are lucky to have been born in Pakistan where such nonsense is tolerated to some extent and where connections and nepotism trump talent and hard work. They wouldn't have gotten half as many chances in any other country. What these guys and their supporters need to understand (and probably never will) is that no one is indispensable, regardless of how talented they may be. Competitive sports is (and should be) all about survival of the fittest. Way better players than these clowns have failed to make a career, despite working harder and doing everything right. Akmal is extremely lucky that he got as many chances as he did. The fact that he always failed to cement his position is evidence enough of his not being mentally and physically fit enough to play at the highest level.

 

[IMMY69]

People supporting Akmal(s) are just disgracing themselves

 

[Abdullah719]

After Umar Akmal misbehaviour at fitness test, Kamran Akmal says he was joking

Veteran Pakistan wicketkeeper-batsman Kamran Akmal has come out in defence of his younger brother Umar, who is facing a ban for allegedly misbehaving at a fitness test, saying he was just joking and didn’t intend to offend anyone. Out-of-favour wicket-keeper Umar, who has a history of landing himself in controversies, apparently made some crude remarks to the trainer Yasir when the skin-folding test was being conducted at the National Cricket Academy.

The matter has been reported to the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) and Umar now faces the prospect of being banned from the country’s next domestic tournament.

“Umar and Yasir have studied together and are friends so I think whatever Umar said was in a lighter mood and he didn’t have any intention to misbehave with anyone,” Kamran said on a TV Channel.

Kamran too finds himself in a spot of bother with the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) after he skipped two fitness tests and failed when he finally appeared for the test.

The two brothers remain out of favour with the national selectors and a source said that the matter had been brought to the notice of the PCB which was now conducting an inquiry and would take appropriate action.

“Umar could find himself banned from playing in the coming national one-day championship,” the source said.

Kamran said they know the importance of maintaining high fitness standards and were working hard on their fitness levels to meet the new required standards set by the Pakistan team management.

“But as usual this incident has been overblown in the media. Because Umar didn’t do anything intentionally. He was just joking,” said Kamran, who last played for Pakistan in 2017 in the West Indies.

“But if the PCB feels in its inquiry he has done something wrong they should caution and reprimand him. He can also apologize but a ban would be very harsh,” he said.

About his failing the fitness test, Kamran said he had been playing cricket for the last 20-years and had always given his best on the field.

“Even this season I have constantly played in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy and the national T20 championship without any problems with my match fitness and I have also performed well,” said the 38-year-old. “I just think nowadays there is over stress on fitness rather than on improving match skills of players,” added Kamran, who has played 53 Tests, 157 ODIs and 58 T20 internationals for Pakistan.

Kamran, 38, said that the players should be given a chance to prepare for this tests.

“But I or Umar have no issues with trying to meet the new fitness standards. The new tests are pretty tough for anyone so I think players must be given a chance to prepare for these tests.”

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...-was-joking/story-wVpwYHZTgf9sIGU04L9zyH.html

 

[Zaz]

What i dont understand is why senior akmal has to speak for his brother all the time

Concentrate on improving your own cricket than making excuses for umars disgraceful behaviour

Maybe if chota akmal didnt have this false backing in his head all the time he wouldve been more successful than the knucklehead hes turned into

 

[Shafi]

How can we go far and compete with professional teams if we have clowns like this playing in our domestic?

 

[Indiafan]

It is utterly foolish to blame PCB for not handling him well. If anything people like Umar Akmal and Shahzad are lucky to have been born in Pakistan where such nonsense is tolerated to some extent and where connections and nepotism trump talent and hard work. They wouldn't have gotten half as many chances in any other country. What these guys and their supporters need to understand (and probably never will) is that no one is indispensable, regardless of how talented they may be. Competitive sports is (and should be) all about survival of the fittest. Way better players than these clowns have failed to make a career, despite working harder and doing everything right. Akmal is extremely lucky that he got as many chances as he did. The fact that he always failed to cement his position is evidence enough of his not being mentally and physically fit enough to play at the highest level.

Like Umar, KL Rahul was dropped unreasonably despite showing early promise, was kept out of the team and is now made to wicket keep and bat at no 5 and 6 despite being an opener. Yet he is making the most of his chances

Thing is talented players will shine sometimes even if they lose form or have bad luck. You might not click in first chance or second chance or third but somewhere down the lane you will stabilize. If you cannot after 10 years somewhere it's your own fault. You should still be positive and make the most of what you have and grow up

No one can be unlucky for 10 years despite being given multiple chances or claim to be mismanaged

 

[Shafi]

Like Umar, KL Rahul was dropped unreasonably despite showing early promise, was kept out of the team and is now made to wicket keep and bat at no 5 and 6 despite being an opener. Yet he is making the most of his chances

Thing is talented players will shine sometimes even if they lose form or have bad luck. You might not click in first chance or second chance or third but somewhere down the lane you will stabilize. If you cannot after 10 years somewhere it's your own fault. You should still be positive and make the most of what you have and grow up

No one can be unlucky for 10 years despite being given multiple chances or claim to be mismanaged

Unfortunately Umar Akmal is a blind slogger with some luck nothing special. And fame got in his head. On the contrary Rahul is class and rectify himself after one mistake tricked by a TV host to say stupid things.That TV host can trick Umar Akmal every year.

 

[chuck]

[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] has a point. Rohit example is apt, he is a gun batsman but not in the same league as Kohli, Jadeja, KL etc. in the fitness department. He is being looked after to not be a liability in the field but his criteria for selection is his enormous batting talent. Not so long ago, the best batsman from Pakistan has been severely deficient in the fitness area but he was the reason Pakistan won the world cup.

Before everyone jumps the gun, I am not saying fitness is not important and should be ignored. You can't have a culture of bad fitness in this modern era. However, rare talent needs to be looked after. Shouldn't his performance in last couple of years where he is topping all charts be considered?

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Imagine

Rohit Sharma gets dropped because he's too fat!

That's the difference between PCB n BCCI. Talent matters and has to be looked after. Not made fun of or blind punishments.

Umar is topping the batting charts and is the best batsman in Pakistan currently, best performer in QeA trophy.

Best domestic batsman two years in a row.

Yet this trainer with obviously a grudge against Umar proceeds to make fun of him. And PCB instead of protecting him like Rohit is protected, starts giving lame statements.

Imagine Rahkeem Cornwall, taking his shirt off and tweets a pic towards Umar Akmal, saying, "Here is the fat."

 

[Saj]

However, rare talent needs to be looked after. Shouldn't his performance in last couple of years where he is topping all charts be considered?

Which charts are these?

 

[dildilpak]

[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] has a point. Rohit example is apt, he is a gun batsman but not in the same league as Kohli, Jadeja, KL etc. in the fitness department. He is being looked after to not be a liability in the field but his criteria for selection is his enormous batting talent. Not so long ago, the best batsman from Pakistan has been severely deficient in the fitness area but he was the reason Pakistan won the world cup.

Before everyone jumps the gun, I am not saying fitness is not important and should be ignored. You can't have a culture of bad fitness in this modern era. However, rare talent needs to be looked after. Shouldn't his performance in last couple of years where he is topping all charts be considered?

How can anyone compare Umar Akmal with Rohit Sharma? Sharma doesn’t have disciplinary issues like the Akmal brothers - haven’t heard a single instance of Sharma skipping training, throwing childish tantrums, making excuses or refusing fitness tests whenever required. Umar Akmal’s overarching problem is not constrained to lack of fitness - it is actually his non-professional attitude towards the game which gets him in trouble repeatedly. Combine that with repeated refusal to acknowledge self-problems & you have a guy who doesn’t deserve to play a team game like cricket despite the talent.

And this is not the first time such thing has happened either - England had to drop a gun-player like KP because of attitude issues & Australia was forced to discipline guys like Warne, Symonds because of refusal to heed team instructions & discipline. So yeah, he doesn’t deserve any more chances after the latest shenanigans.

 

[Indiafan]

[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] has a point. Rohit example is apt, he is a gun batsman but not in the same league as Kohli, Jadeja, KL etc. in the fitness department. He is being looked after to not be a liability in the field but his criteria for selection is his enormous batting talent. Not so long ago, the best batsman from Pakistan has been severely deficient in the fitness area but he was the reason Pakistan won the world cup.

Before everyone jumps the gun, I am not saying fitness is not important and should be ignored. You can't have a culture of bad fitness in this modern era. However, rare talent needs to be looked after. Shouldn't his performance in last couple of years where he is topping all charts be considered?

Do you seriously think fitness is the only reason Umar has been out of the team? You are being dishonest here

Look at this thread and what Akmal did. Changing that ti make it a fitness issue is a deliberate attempt to change the topic and pretend something else. And the audacity to compare with Rohit Sharma, who would have got a life ban by BCCI if he tried something like this

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Umar Akmal's problem is that he neither has enough talent to make people tolerate his delusional behaviour, not does he have the discipline and self -awareness to make the best use of the talent he does have.

Several fallacies in this thread:

Fallacy #1. Umar Akmal is a wasted talent:

It's been 10 years since he's played. Please check his stats. 10 years is more than enough to even out any and every outliner, special circumstances, unjust treatment, allegations of bias against the guy.

Even the fact that he 'only' played 16 Tests over a 2 year period early on in his career, is no longer in his favour as a case of 'what might have been', simply because of a 10 year long career trajectory.

ODI:34.34
T20Is: 26.00
Tests: 35.82

That's ALL you need to know.

Fallacy #2: He could have been managed better.

Well so could anyone else. So could Maninder Singh, Kiran More, Vinod Kambli. So what? Ultimately we're all responsible for our actions. Ultimately, we manage ourselves.

The ability to stay disciplined, focused and dedicated in the pursuit of a goal is the biggest talent of all. And he's clearly untalented in this regard.

Fallacy #3: Give him more chances he'll settle and come around to be Pakistan's champion batsman.

How much of Umar Akmal's past does one need to read in order to reasonably predict his future?

Random youtube videos, arguments galore- on the street with random people, and with not so random folks such as his own coach, weird behaviour that smacks of not just arrogance but a very disturbing sense of unrelenting entitlement.

He may be back in Pakistan colours, but he isn't settling down and he's unlikely to be a champion bat.