Sachin Tendulkar vs Abdul Razzaq in Australia (ODI’s) - Who performed better?

[RedwoodOriginal]

In tests also Razzaq was trash.

Even by your obviously biased standards for an all-rounder to average 28 with the bat and 36 with ball across 46 tests is not trash.

And atleast he played 46 tests. He didn't run away at the thought of his brittle body breaking apart in five-day cricket.

Also in ODIs, Razzaq was a far better batter and bowler than Pandya who didn't have the luxury of batting in an era of flat pitches and two new balls. Also faced far better bowling attacks on far tougher pitches and had a far greater and longer track-record of success.

 

[Vikram1989]

I was also surprised by Razzler with the ball in AUS

Let's say am also surprised by oboyo with the bat .he is better than every pak batsmen apart from anwar in wc.

He was as good as waqar and better than saqlain in bowling too.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Pandya is a three times ICC trophy winner.
Thats 2 more than Razzaq.

Jobbers average 37 with the ball in test cricket.

Jobbers run away from test cricket because they know their body is made of glass and will break apart and then who will make that easy IPL money?

Ofcourse real cricketers have their priorities straight and know that if you can't play test cricket, you are not a serious cricketer.

 

[Mesozoic]

Congrats to Sachin for that, well done; now explain what does that have to do with this innocent comparison, does it hurt that Razzler did well compared to Sachin? I am sorry to offend

Nothing to do with the tread title and the OP. Good for Razzaq that he did better than SRT with the bat in a specific country.

But my post is intended at the ensuing "discussion" that has predictably swayed toward's SRT's impact. The same SRT who has the most man of the match awards in international cricket...ever.

 

[shaz619]

Even by your obviously biased standards for an all-rounder to average 28 with the bat and 36 with ball across 46 tests is not trash.

And atleast he played 46 tests. He didn't run away at the thought of his brittle body breaking apart in five-day cricket.

Also in ODIs, Razzaq was a far better batter and bowler than Pandya who didn't have the luxury of batting in an era of flat pitches and two new balls. Also faced far better bowling attacks on far tougher pitches and had a far greater and longer track-record of success.

I”ll entertain that argument if there is even one showing off that cuck that compares to the Razzlers hat-trick in Sharjah

 

[shaz619]

Nothing to do with the tread title and the OP. Good for Razzaq that he did better than SRT with the bat in a specific country.

But my post is intended at the ensuing "discussion" that has predictably swayed toward's SRT's impact. The same SRT who has the most man of the match awards in international cricket...ever.

I wanted to highlight it given how underrated Razzaq clearly even now but a lot the small sensitive folk got upset, if anything, Sachin fans could have taken it as a positive that he was being used to level up a guy that kind of didn’t need it when it came to impact

 

[shaz619]

Let's say am also surprised by oboyo with the bat .he is better than every pak batsmen apart from anwar in wc.

He was as good as waqar and better than saqlain in bowling too.

Yes Razzaq made Sachin his bunny and had much greater impact then him, Sachin played for himself, Razzaq played to win

 

[Vikram1989]

Yes Razzaq made Sachin his bunny and had much greater impact then him, Sachin played for himself, Razzaq played to win

So u have agreed entire minnow pak team is pathetic and impact less than Kenyan a.r oboyo .

 

[shaz619]

So u have agreed entire minnow pak team is pathetic and impact less than Kenyan a.r oboyo .

Sachin had less impact then Kenyans to I don’t know what that has to do with Razzler making him his bunny, Sachin tampered to unlike Oboyo

 

[Vikram1989]

Sachin had less impact then Kenyans to I don’t know what that has to do with Razzler making him his bunny, Sachin tampered to unlike Oboyo

Oboyo is the greatest all rounder who has beaten the entire gutless , pathetic , impactless pak team .he meets your specific country conditions perfectly.

 

[Mesozoic]

I wanted to highlight it given how underrated Razzaq clearly even now but a lot the small sensitive folk got upset, if anything, Sachin fans could have taken it as a positive that he was being used to level up a guy that kind of didn’t need it when it came to impact

People use the word underrated for everyone and everything these days. No. Razzaq is not underrated..he is fairly rated by everyone. His knock against South Africa still gets attention today and even Sachin mentioned in an interview that he found Razzaq the toughest bowler to face.

 

[Sachin fan]

I like how Indians come here on Pakpassion... Basically a site where their revered god of cricket has the most funny looking avatar

Who died and made you the gatekeeper of this site?

 

[Major]

Who died and made you the gatekeeper of this site?

Tendu

 

[RexRex]

I can't think of a single Razzaq performace of note. He gave the odd cameo here and there like Ravi Jadeja did. Although I think I rate Jadeja higher as a player.

 

[sweep_shot]

I can't think of a single Razzaq performace of note. He gave the odd cameo here and there like Ravi Jadeja did. Although I think I rate Jadeja higher as a player.

Maybe because you are new to cricket.

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Get cricket scorecard of 2nd ODI, PAK vs SA, South Africa tour of United Arab Emirates 2010/11 at Sheikh Zayed Stadium, Abu Dhabi dated October 31, 2010.

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[shaz619]

Oboyo is the greatest all rounder who has beaten the entire gutless , pathetic , impactless pak team .he meets your specific country conditions perfectly.

Oboyo has a spare room in every Indian household, so that just shows the cowardly cretin’s Indian teams has always been

 

[Vikram1989]

Oboyo has a spare room in every Indian household, so that just shows the cowardly cretin’s Indian teams has always been

So called Cowardly Indian team played finals while the real cowards pak didn't reach super 6. Minnows Kenya reached semis.

 

[shaz619]

So called Cowardly Indian team played finals while the real cowards didn't reach super 6. Minnows Kenya reached semis.

Sachin couldn’t do anything in Australia compared to Razzaq and on top of that in the finals, just could for scoring a few runs against a bowler who Indian midgets don’t rate themselves, Kenya did better then Sachin in that Tournie, they overachieved

 

[aarizzler720]

Even by your obviously biased standards for an all-rounder to average 28 with the bat and 36 with ball across 46 tests is not trash.

And atleast he played 46 tests. He didn't run away at the thought of his brittle body breaking apart in five-day cricket.

Also in ODIs, Razzaq was a far better batter and bowler than Pandya who didn't have the luxury of batting in an era of flat pitches and two new balls. Also faced far better bowling attacks on far tougher pitches and had a far greater and longer track-record of success.

lol razzaq is no Botham, heck not even Kapil Dev or maybe even Chris Cairns level in test cricket tbf, but whatever standard test allrounder he was I'll gladly take him over Aamer Jamal, Hardik Pandya, allrounders in test cricket

 

[Vikram1989]

Kenya did better then Sachin in that Tournie, they overachieved

Kenya did better than entire pathetic minnows pak.Sachin is the player of series and scored a century against mighty Kenya.

 

[uppercut]

@Mesozoic , @Vikram1989

This thread is a great example of another much serious manifestation of utter Impotent rage owing to numerous brutal Phaintas dished out by Tendlya on the Padosees. whatta legend ehh ? . ..He has permanent squatting rights in the minds of poor padosees despite retiring almost 13 years ago

 

[Vikram1989]

@Mesozoic , @Vikram1989

This thread is a great example of another much serious manifestation of utter Impotent rage owing to numerous brutal Phaintas dished out by Tendlya on the Padosees. whatta legend ehh ? . ..He has permanent squatting rights in the minds of poor padosees despite retiring almost 13 years ago

Honestly, I forgot most of the Kohli's innings let alone Sachin.Bringing one skewed data set to undermine sachin but to reject the same skewed dataset when it's not in his favour.its utter dishonest and coping mechanism.

 

[just a fan]

Win at least 7 POTW world championships like me then we can tak jobber

Mmm sorry don't have time for 40257 posts for that! And what's with this name calling stuff! Still having meltdown?

 

[Sachin fan]

Sachin couldn’t do anything in Australia compared to Razzaq and on top of that in the finals, just could for scoring a few runs against a bowler who Indian midgets don’t rate themselves, Kenya did better then Sachin in that Tournie, they overachieved

So now it's about the finals. When I showed you Sachin scored 117 and 91 to win us the CB finals, India's first ever series win in Australia, while razzak lost both the series finals he played in Australia, you ran away.

Decide what you want to argue first before making such a fool of yourself.

 

[BouncerGuy]

STAY ON TOPIC INSTEAD OF MAKING PERSONAL REMARKS

 

[BouncerGuy]

STAY ON TOPIC INSTEAD OF NAME CALLING

 

[Bhaijaan]

Razzaq under achieved. He was immensely gifted and he should have been remembered as undoubtedly one of the greatest ever all rounders and cricketers to have ever played the game.

Instead, whereas Sachin is the 2nd greatest cricketer to ever live.
Razzaq is probably not even a Top 25 Pakistani cricketers ever.

 

[shaz619]

@Mesozoic , @Vikram1989

This thread is a great example of another much serious manifestation of utter Impotent rage owing to numerous brutal Phaintas dished out by Tendlya on the Padosees. whatta legend ehh ? . ..He has permanent squatting rights in the minds of poor padosees despite retiring almost 13 years ago

If that makes you feel better about the Razzaq vs Sachin comparison in Australia, that’s ok, get well soon

 

[shaz619]

Kenya did better than entire pathetic minnows pak.Sachin is the player of series and scored a century against mighty Kenya.

Sachin was very good against Kenyans yes but they overachieved, he couldn’t replicate his Kenyan feats against Australia

 

[shaz619]

So now it's about the finals. When I showed you Sachin scored 117 and 91 to win us the CB finals, India's first ever series win in Australia, while razzak lost both the series finals he played in Australia, you ran away.

Decide what you want to argue first before making such a fool of yourself.

He couldn’t do it in the finals that mattered and overall underachieved in Australia despite playing with his golden gen, by comparison Razzler did better within his role & even did the job single handedly in some games for a team that had to rely on individuals, Sachin had it so much easier yet still didn’t reach the required level in Australia

 

[shaz619]

Sachin was quiet poor against the best team of his era in ODI’s. I was surprised given how highly rated he is, surely an A/R shouldn’t be out performing him against one of the greatest teams ever.

 

[Vikram1989]

Sachin was very good against Kenyans yes but they overachieved, he couldn’t replicate his Kenyan feats against Australia

Oboyo is better than any pak batter or batsmen in specific conditions.

Kenya is better than minnows pak.

That's our premise.

 

[shaz619]

Oboyo is better than any pak batter or batsmen in specific conditions.

Kenya is better than minnows pak.

That's our premise.

So Sachin is minnow level without tampering and especially for being out performed by Kenyan level

 

[Varun]

So Sachin is minnow level without tampering and especially for being out performed by Kenyan level

Abdul Razzaq > Sachin Tendulkar

 

[Vikram1989]

So Sachin is minnow level without tampering and especially for being out performed by Kenyan level

Pathetic minnows is the pak who can't even reach super six.kenyans and oboyo are the best in specific conditions.
Oboyo is better than entire garbage team in specific conditions.

 

[uppercut]

If that makes you feel better about the Razzaq vs Sachin comparison in Australia, that’s ok, get well soon

The joke is entirely you champ

 

[shaz619]

Pathetic minnows is the pak who can't even reach super six.kenyans and oboyo are the best in specific conditions.
Oboyo is better than entire garbage team in specific conditions.

Kenya humiliated Indians and exposed Sachin for the fraud he is, a tampering BCCI puppet that got bent by A/R’s in the toughest conditions when it mattered, that’s why you can’t keep on topic

 

[shaz619]

Abdul Razzaq > Sachin Tendulkar

You can’t accept any constructive criticism so throw your toys out the pram and make it about Sachin, such is your insecurity, this was meant to be about using Sachin to get Razzaq more credit, but you lot buried Sachin yourselves as though he really is a serial jobber

 

[uppercut]

I am the one with a British Passport, your life is miserable

And I am the one holding a US Passport which pretty much makes you a obedient colony of the US

 

[Varun]

You can’t accept any constructive criticism so throw your toys out the pram and make it about Sachin, such is your insecurity, this was meant to be about using Sachin to get Razzaq more credit, but you lot buried Sachin yourselves as though he really is a serial jobber

I'm responding to the thread title you keyed in, don't get jumpy.

 

[shaz619]

And I am the one holding a US Passport which pretty much makes you a obedient colony of the US

From somebody that is regarded like a horses rear very amusing, and we are free here, you answer to Daddy Trump who tramples all over people that look especially like you

 

[shaz619]

I'm responding to the thread title you keyed in, don't get jumpy.

Thanks for the insight & feedback

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Now do Sir Garfield Sobers vs Wajahatullah Wasti, while you are at it

 

[sweep_shot]

Tendu was always the king of soft runs/bilateral specialists. Quantity over quality.

Abdul Razzaq was a genuine match-winner.

 

[shaz619]

Tendu was always the king of soft runs/bilateral specialists. Quantity over quality.

Abdul Razzaq was a genuine match-winner.

All the tiny folk so rattled can’t have a proper debate and gone off topic, expected nothing less from the lowly kind

 

[giri26]

Okay here is the deal, Razzak was an OK all-rounder whose performances were limited to meaningless bi-laterals and Sharjah tournaments. He had no impact at the world stage except for 1999 WC where he was batting at snails pace and was part of a good bowling unit. Only in Pakpassion he is rated so high. If someone comes to this site, they will actually think Razzak was the greatest all-rounder to grace the cricket field. Even during his time there were better bowling all-rounders than him. Heath Streak, Chris Cairns, Shaun Pollock, Lance Klusner were all better. Even Zimbabwe had Neil Johnson who was a better bat than Razzak. So please stop with the hyperboles. Yeah Sachin did not do great in Australia in ODIs but he is a certified GOAT. Does not matter what Razzak did in Australia, he still is an ordinary all-rounder who could have been better. Even Hansie Cronje took Sachin's wicket a lot, does not mean he is better than Ambrose. Yuvraj Singh made Pieterson his bunny, does not make the former a legendary left-arm spinner.

Razzak was no match winner outside of Asian conditions, he had no pedigree outside of Pakistan. Sachin did very well in world tournaments, he was player of the tournament in 2003 WC and averaged 56.95 overall in all World Cups. He averaged 78.95 against Pakistan in 5 World Cup wins against them. Abdul Razzak on the other hand averaged 21 with bat and 31 with the ball in the WCs. In the 3 games he played against India he averaged 8 with the bat and 90 with the ball. So much for big match player. razzaq was the epitome of useless runs and wickets when no one cared. Sachin did very well in multi-nation tournaments all over the world when Razzak was lighting the world on fire in Coca Cola & Kitply cups. I can't remember Razzak winning anything for Pakistan at the world level in major tournaments. He was a Sharjah or Asia specialist and that's about it.

If you want such useless comparisons, here is one for you, Kapil Dev averaged 47 in England at a SR of 107 while Inzi averaged 34 at a SR of 73. You guys consider Inzi a legend but unfortunately he is inferior to Kapil Dev with the bat in England. You can't say Kapil is poor as he led India to a WC win as well, he is clearly better as he was a bowler as well.

 

[Sachin fan]

All the tiny folk so rattled can’t have a proper debate and gone off topic, expected nothing less from the lowly kind

If you have to take the support of that mentally ill troll, who is wrong in every single thread about cricket, has some of the worst takes on this site, and is mocked by all, then you have already lost the debate, my guy.

You can tell which side is winning by who is on that side.