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Sachin Tendulkar vs Rohit Sharma (ODI batting)

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He has been absolutely beastly in this WC so far. Has he done enough to be mentioned among the greatest opener in ODI history?

Has been given chances to be fair but he has capitalized on them and how!

Although Sharma will never get close to Tendulkar's ODI run tally, he will play till next WC for sure and end up with around 12k ODI runs/35 ODI tons at least.

Considering the next WC is in India, I can only imagine the carnage if he is performing the way he is at the moment in England!

I feel SRT is still slightly ahead due to his great WC/Finals record and longevity, but by next WC, Sharma has a chance of equalling or even surpassing the great man!
 
Sharma is a genius no doubt. The only thing which will stop him from piling up the runs is his fitness. Does look on the heavier side.
 
Tendulkar faced tougher bowlers. Sharma didn't face Walsh/Ambrose/Wasim/Waqar/Saqlain.
 
Sachin hands down.

Sharma should still be proud for being the 2nd greatest ODI opener of all time.
 
Tendulkar faced tougher bowlers. Sharma didn't face Walsh/Ambrose/Wasim/Waqar/Saqlain.

Tendulkar didnt face Jeff Thomson/Marshall/Garner/Andy Roberts/Michael Holding at their prime. Gavaskar did.

Since we cant take Tendulkar back in a time machine and make him play against those bowlers from a bygone era, we should not embark on such arguments that can never be resolved one way or another
 
This is like comparing Sharma with Sir Viv. Tendulkar played some unbelievable innings on tracks which were literally minefields.
 
Only Starc. Who else?

Are you seriously comparing Starc with greats like Ambrose/Walsh/Wasim/Waqar/Donald? Batting is also easier now compared to before.

Not sure how this strengthens your point?....

Batting is indeed easier now compared to before...everything works against the bowlers today whether it be batting friendly pitches, small boundares, bigger bats, two balls, non-swinging balls yet Starc still has an incredible SR under 25...

How many modern day bowlers average anything close to 20?...
 
Only Starc. Who else?

Are you seriously comparing Starc with greats like Ambrose/Walsh/Wasim/Waqar/Donald? Batting is also easier now compared to before.

Starc in world cups is better bowler than anyone you mentioned. Stop over hyping the past, starc is as good as any.
 
He is very tentative and tends to give chances during the first 20 odd balls or so (has 5 drops so far in this WC and that's not counting other situations where he could've easily gotten out) but once in he really does make you pay.

For example Gayle has also been dropped 5 times but he only got a 100 odd runs but Sharma has gotten 360 odd runs, Finch has also been dropped 4 times and he only gotten 140 odd runs due to that.
 
Sachin. Batting is easier today with two new ball rules. Sachin has played 348 matches as an opener and maintained an average of 48.5 , in comparison Sharma has only played 127 Odis as an opener.
Sachin was a good middle order batsman too. Has a decent average of 38 in 61 matches at no. 4, Sharma was a disaster.

Sachin played in an era of best Odi bowlers. People over hype 70's and 80's but it was 1990-2007 when best odi bowlers were in business.
 
Only Starc. Who else?

Are you seriously comparing Starc with greats like Ambrose/Walsh/Wasim/Waqar/Donald? Batting is also easier now compared to before.

Yes I am. That's why Starc is the greatest. Because batting is easier and Starc averages 15 in WC. Also we have Bumrah, Shami, Boult who are as good as the ones you mentioned.
 
Sachin ..... I always give more weightage to those batsmen who had to face much tougher bowlers in general .Hence a Ponting with 42 avg: would always be better than a Rohit with almost 49 avg: for me.
This is because the bowlers Ponting faced 'avg:ed 20-25 with econ in the range 4-4.5' which implies either the conditions were far suited to bowling or the bowlers were far superior in quality or a combo of both. That meant the chances of batsmen coming across those wkt taking deliveries thru an inns were manyfold when compared to now a days much batting friendlier conditions. Based on the fact that only 1 such a delivery is required to make even Bradman cheaply return to the pavilion I would always consider those batsmen of tougher era much superior to those of now a days despite the laters having much superior stats.
 
Sachin ..... I always give more weightage to those batsmen who had to face much tougher bowlers in general .Hence a Ponting with 42 avg: would always be better than a Rohit with almost 49 avg: for me.
This is because the bowlers Ponting faced 'avg:ed 20-25 with econ in the range 4-4.5' which implies either the conditions were far suited to bowling or the bowlers were far superior in quality or a combo of both. That meant the chances of batsmen coming across those wkt taking deliveries thru an inns were manyfold when compared to now a days much batting friendlier conditions. Based on the fact that only 1 such a delivery is required to make even Bradman cheaply return to the pavilion I would always consider those batsmen of tougher era much superior to those of now a days despite the laters having much superior stats.

Again bowlers today have to deal with:

Two new balls
Balls that don't swing
Free hits
Shorter boundaries
Bigger bats
Flatter pitches

There is a reason that the majority of bowlers who average under 25 are from the past...

Tendulkars figures are better than Rohits not cos the bowlers are necessarily better but because he actually had to perform in an era where the competition between bat and ball was an even one...

The fact that Starc averages 20 under current conditions shows just how outstanding he is...
 
Again bowlers today have to deal with:

Two new balls
Balls that don't swing
Free hits
Shorter boundaries
Bigger bats
Flatter pitches

If Tendulkar is better than Rohit for these reasons, then Boult is also better than Wasim. The problem in general with degrading modern batsmen is that people are reluctant to extend the same logic to the bowlers.

If modern batsmen are benefited from favorable rules and conditions, then bowlers of the past era who are glorified also benefited from favorable rules and conditions in the past.
 
Rohit Sharma took five years to establish himself in ODI cricket.

What are his total stats after that? And you compare it with Sachin. He averages 48 as opener and I don't remember runs but sure it's a lot lot more than Sharma had.
 
Sharma is an Indian great. Probably just surpassed Sehwag. He still has 3 years left in him hoping his eye sight and body supports him.
 
Rohit Sharma took five years to establish himself in ODI cricket.

same with Sachin as well.. he was barely averaging 30 for the initial 5 years playing as a middle order batsmen.. his and India's fortunes turned only when he was moved to opening slot.. just like Sharmaji

but you are right about the longevity part of the equation.. Sachin played more than double the matches in opening position compared to hitman.. we dont know how he will perform in future, so cant really start comparing the both until he plays another 75 or more matches.
 
Sharma is an Indian great. Probably just surpassed Sehwag. He still has 3 years left in him hoping his eye sight and body supports him.

Sehwag was a mediocre batsman for 70% of his ODI career, even 2013 Sharma was better than Sehwag ever was.
 
Indian ODI all time XI:-

Sharma
Tendulkar
Kohli

Waah! Kya top 3 hai!
 
Indian ODI XI:-

Sharma
Tendulkar
Kohli
Azharuddin
Yuvraj
Dhoni(C/wkt)
Kapil
Kuldeep
Zaheer
Chahal
Bumrah

12th Man- Sir Ravindra Jadeja
 
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Rohit has 650 runs so far in this WC.

He may surpass Tendulkar's record tally of 673 in a WC, in this innings itself!

While SRT huffed and puffed to 6 record tons in 6 WC's over three decades, Rohit Sharma has made a joke out of that record by scoring 5 in a single WC. In the form he is in, he may score one more in the knockouts!

Absolutely unreal.
 
Oh, and Rohit also becomes the first man in history to score 5 centuries in a single WC.
 
Rohit > Tendulkar.

In ODI’s.

GOAT ODI opener.

Tests is a different story though.
 
It's not wrong to say that Tendulkar era was tougher for batting, BUT Rohit has the better stats to show for it - He averages a solid 10 more than Sachin as an opener. I'd say they would be equals if their careers were equal but Sachin has the longevity on his side - so I think he is better anyway.
 
It's not wrong to say that Tendulkar era was tougher for batting, BUT Rohit has the better stats to show for it - He averages a solid 10 more than Sachin as an opener. I'd say they would be equals if their careers were equal but Sachin has the longevity on his side - so I think he is better anyway.

Rohit has one more thing over Tendulkar, daddy hundreds. 13 of his 27 tons are over 130 runs (50%). Also, his average is 100 if you don't get him out under 19 runs (as opener). Statistically, if you can't get Rohit out cheaply he will obliterate opposition team.
 
Rohit has surpassed Tendulkar imo.

Tendulkar had a 50+ average as an opener for 248 matches. In all 348 matches as an opener he averages 48+. Rohit averages 58 in 128 matches. I think Sachin would be as successful as Rohit if he played today.
 
Tendulkar was only hyped up because the rest of the batsmen were trash.

Rohit is a much superior batsman than Tendulkar.
 
Tendulkar had a 50+ average as an opener for 248 matches. In all 348 matches as an opener he averages 48+. Rohit averages 58 in 128 matches. I think Sachin would be as successful as Rohit if he played today.

Thing is, Rohit's average is ballooning every year. He will soon average over 60. 50% (13/27) of Rohit's tons are over 130 runs, he is more dangerous than Tendulkar once set. And WC record speaks for itself, he has as many WC tons as Tendulkar in 1/3rd the matches.
 
Rohit is FTB, modern ODI cricket suits him and he has made best use of it. But to compare him with 1 of the top 3 greatest batsmen of all time is too much. Rohit doesn't have the versatility of Sachin or Ponting or Viv.
 
Tendulkar was only hyped up because the rest of the batsmen were trash.

Rohit is a much superior batsman than Tendulkar.

Biggest hype in world cricket. Also he used rest of batsmen trash excuse to repeatedly play selfish innings and score runs in losing causes
 
Its always about where you stand in your generation.

Tendulkar was the best in his era, a revolutionary.

He retired with 20 more ODI centuries than the next best.

If anything this World Cup has cemented his legacy as GOAT as Virat failed again
 
Its always about where you stand in your generation.

Tendulkar was the best in his era, a revolutionary.

He retired with 20 more ODI centuries than the next best.

If anything this World Cup has cemented his legacy as GOAT as Virat failed again

Virat hasn't failed yet. He will step up when it matters the most (in semis and finals) and still has 2 more worldcup to break all these records. I bet kohli will end up with 8 - 10 worldcup centuries.
 
If Tendulkar is better than Rohit for these reasons, then Boult is also better than Wasim. The problem in general with degrading modern batsmen is that people are reluctant to extend the same logic to the bowlers.

If modern batsmen are benefited from favorable rules and conditions, then bowlers of the past era who are glorified also benefited from favorable rules and conditions in the past.

every player batsman/bowler with the best stats for the era they plays in are contenders for that 'GOAT' title. Thus Rohit,Kohli,ABDV, Sachin,Ponting, Sanga etc etc are all contenders. Similarly with Wasim,Boult,steyn etc in bowling.After that it all comes to the conditions they play in, nature of the game itself etc etc.
 
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