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Salman Butt and Mohammad Asif performance in domestic cricket after their return

Nevermind, answered my own question. For those interested:

"Finally Salman and Asif have found some reprieve and are allowed to feature in the PCB National One Day Cup 2015/16 – their first competitive game since their ban in 2010. Both were contracted by WAPDA (Water and Power Development Authority) as non-executive 17th-grade employees in October 2015. They trained and practiced with the team during the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy but didn’t play."

http://www.crictracker.com/salman-butt-and-mohd-asif-to-play-their-first-domestic-game-since-ban/

Their match started 2.5 hours ago according to cricinfo timings. Can't find a scorecard, not even on the PCB website.
 
Junaids said:
It will be fascinating to see how rusty they look. Amir has a year of cricket under his belt, but today is Day 1 for them.
Having said that, the total failure to unearth any opening batting or right-arm fast bowling talent whatsoever these last five years means that their former positions remain wide open
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really very sad to see... shows that how much home matches are important for a player to cement his place via stats and records...Had pakistan played their home matches then these two wouldnt be coming back as there will be more settled team and players would have already taken their spots in the lineup..
 
Belawal2014 said:
Where are you getting these numbers from? :narine Would be cool if he does get his century. PP will lose it's **** and Junaids will have a field day.
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Trust me, I already am!

Going back to when PakPassion interviewed me, I have never made any disguise of my love affair with Pakistan cricket (and SA) even though I'm English.

You are one opener and one right-arm quick short of being a world-beating team. And I think Asif and Butt could be the missing links.
 
Belawal2014 said:
Well, tbh I've been checking twitter and some people are tweeting the same thing that Salman Butt has scored his century.
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Even if it's true this guys is making a field day for [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] who will be all over PP like a rash if this is indeed authentic. However, I've checked the PCB website and Cricinfo and scorecards have yet to be published so I am not too sure where the updates are coming from; I even have a twitter tab open as I type this.

The most funny thing is how he's describing the event, pure genius :D
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Even if it's true this guys is making a field day for [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] who will be all over PP like a rash if this is indeed authentic. However, I've checked the PCB website and Cricinfo and scorecards have yet to be published so I am not too sure where the updates are coming from; I even have a twitter tab open as I type this.

The most funny thing is how he's describing the event, pure genius :D
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Yah, Suleiman has grown in to quite the subtle troll. Love it.

I'm quite confident that Butt has reached his century as Pakistan's correspondent to ESPNCricinfo tweeted it. I don't think I'm allowed to post his tweet.

JAAGTv also reporting it now :))
 
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Perfectly scripted.

Just imagine if all 3 fixers are back into national colors soon.

We , Pakistanis, do go by the adage

"Jaisi harkatein,waisi qaum, jaisi qaum waisy leaders, jaisay leaders, waisi destiny ".
 
Afridi's probably like :afridi2

But in all honesty, very surprised. 5 years out and he comes back like this. 2 things. Either he has been working very hard and this is a result of his diligence. Or FATA's bowling and to an extension our domestic bowling has reached an all time low that a 5 year out of practice batsman in his 30s is scoring a century in a comeback game.

That :six he smashed though to get to 100, wow, wow, wow. If [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] was at the stadium would've needed to call an ambulance.
 
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Belawal2014 said:
Yah, Suleiman has grown in to quite the subtle troll. Love it.

I'm quite confident that Butt has reached his century as Pakistan's correspondent to ESPNCricinfo tweeted it. I don't think I'm allowed to post his tweet.

JAAGTv also reporting it now :))
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Chalo Happy for Butt that he's getting his act together and clawing his way back into contention. [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] you're up mate, would love to see a new thread dedicated to Mr. Salman Butt.
 
Let's get him into the T20 WC team..I want to see the reaction of Afridi.
 
Suleiman said:
Afridi's probably like :afridi2

But in all honesty, very surprised. 5 years out and he comes back like this. 2 things. Either he has been working very hard and this is a result of his diligence. Or FATA's bowling and to an extension our domestic bowling has reached an all time low that a 5 year out of practice batsman in his 30s is scoring a century in a comeback game.

That :six he smashed though to get to 100, wow, wow, wow. If [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] was at the stadium would've needed to call an ambulance.
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Wow wow wow indeed :raja
 
Dman said:
Let's get him into the T20 WC team..I want to see the reaction of Afridi.
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If he somehow makes it back to intl cricket and the T20 team, I highly doubt Afridi would put him in the playing XI.
 
I'm just thrilled.

I've been a well-wisher of Pakistan cricket for years, since the mid-1970s.

I saw in the period 2005-10 your team fall apart due to the effects of Inzamam's theocracy followed by rampant fixing and terrible administration leaving you virtually no matches between 2007-2009, and missing half your team due to the ICL.

In 2010 the whole reason that the News of the World entrapped Amir, Asif and Butt was because they were your best three players.

You have since survived by giving mediocre players like Misbah and Hafeez custom-designed UAE pitches. But let's be honest: your Test cricket is boring and your ODI and T20 cricket is awful.

Your best three players were always better than Hafeez or Azhar Ali or Imran Khan. The ICC says that they are fully rehabilitated and free to play for Pakistan.

And continuing to exclude them just plays into the hands of your opponents. As an England fan I really hope that you don't bring Asif and Butt this summer!
 
Amir was fast tracked in to the national team because he was clearly better than his competition. If Salman Butt and Asif can show that they are better than their competitors, then I don't mind both of them being included to the national team.
 
Belawal2014 said:
Amir was fast tracked in to the national team because he was clearly better than his competition. If Salman Butt and Asif can show that they are better than their competitors, then I don't mind both of them being included to the national team.
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Danish Kaneria should be treatred equally and he still has few years left in him since yasir will be banned for 4 years...
 
Belawal2014 said:
Amir was fast tracked in to the national team because he was clearly better than his competition. If Salman Butt and Asif can show that they are better than their competitors, then I don't mind both of them being included to the national team.
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InshaAllah they will both come back. Discrimination make me asif and butt supporter otherwise I was against all three.
 
badsha001 said:
Danish Kaneria should be treatred equally and he still has few years left in him since yasir will be banned for 4 years...
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Kaneria has his fingerprints all over several improbable Pakistan Test defeats.

Apart from the obvious Sydney 2010 case, you should look up his strangely ineffectual fourth innings performances in the First and Third Tests in South Africa in 2006-7.

I can't imagine anyone being selected again in those circumstances.
 
135 for Salman butt on his return to cricket Wapda vs FATA in the OneDayCup

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Cricket gods must have been sleeping.

Hope he and Asif fail miserably, it will be a joke if these two clowns are allowed back into international cricket.
 
Junaids said:
I'm just thrilled.

I've been a well-wisher of Pakistan cricket for years, since the mid-1970s.

I saw in the period 2005-10 your team fall apart due to the effects of Inzamam's theocracy followed by rampant fixing and terrible administration leaving you virtually no matches between 2007-2009, and missing half your team due to the ICL.

In 2010 the whole reason that the News of the World entrapped Amir, Asif and Butt was because they were your best three players.

You have since survived by giving mediocre players like Misbah and Hafeez custom-designed UAE pitches. But let's be honest: your Test cricket is boring and your ODI and T20 cricket is awful.

Your best three players were always better than Hafeez or Azhar Ali or Imran Khan. The ICC says that they are fully rehabilitated and free to play for Pakistan.

And continuing to exclude them just plays into the hands of your opponents. As an England fan I really hope that you don't bring Asif and Butt this summer!
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You're one of the few 'neutrals' who wants to see Butt back playing international cricket.
 
Can't believe people are happy with this.

This clown robbed you of 5 years of Amir and lied to the world for years.
 
Junaids said:
I'm just thrilled.

I've been a well-wisher of Pakistan cricket for years, since the mid-1970s.

I saw in the period 2005-10 your team fall apart due to the effects of Inzamam's theocracy followed by rampant fixing and terrible administration leaving you virtually no matches between 2007-2009, and missing half your team due to the ICL.

In 2010 the whole reason that the News of the World entrapped Amir, Asif and Butt was because they were your best three players.

You have since survived by giving mediocre players like Misbah and Hafeez custom-designed UAE pitches. But let's be honest: your Test cricket is boring and your ODI and T20 cricket is awful.

Your best three players were always better than Hafeez or Azhar Ali or Imran Khan. The ICC says that they are fully rehabilitated and free to play for Pakistan.

And continuing to exclude them just plays into the hands of your opponents. As an England fan I really hope that you don't bring Asif and Butt this summer!
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I really, really do not understand your logic at all. You will defend to death, three players who are convicted of fixing. Actually caught with proof and convicted in 3 different courts/tribunal. Asif whom you seem to love was convicted by CAS, ICC and the crown. Not to ignore the 3 times he had a prior brush with the law

And then you will sling mud at everyone else. They were caught because they were greatest players. ICC/BCCI/ECB/NOTW conspiracy and what not. You sling mud at IPL/BCCI all the time without even any proof.

To me it just seems the height of double standards without any logic behind it
 
Fatas bowling isnt good but still coming back after 5 years and scoring a ton is great in itself.
 
Butt bullying the club level FATA side.
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] will now have a field day.. wait, field weeks over this ton. :tyrion
 
Butt scores century - "It was against a club level FATA side"

Butt doesn't score - "He can't even score against club level FATA side"

There's no winning for poor Butt. Dont worry, I gotchu. :kakmal
 
Indiafan said:
I really, really do not understand your logic at all. You will defend to death, three players who are convicted of fixing. Actually caught with proof and convicted in 3 different courts/tribunal. Asif whom you seem to love was convicted by CAS, ICC and the crown. Not to ignore the 3 times he had a prior brush with the law

And then you will sling mud at everyone else. They were caught because they were greatest players. ICC/BCCI/ECB/NOTW conspiracy and what not. You sling mud at IPL/BCCI all the time without even any proof.

To me it just seems the height of double standards without any logic behind it
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I'm not "defending" them at all.

At the time in 2010 I recognised their guilt immediately. When the ICC banned them for 5 years in 2011 I supported those bans (although I thought the Asif conviction and punishment were unsound and that he could not have been convicted either by the ICC or English courts if his case had been heard individually).

But a big part of recognising their guilt and accepting the five year bans is that at the end of the five years you honour and abide by their freedom to play again at any level they are still good enough to play at.

Incidentally, I think your posts are legally libellous, and if I were Asif I would sue you. You keep accusing him of offences of which he was never convicted. I am angry with the PCB that it aided and abetted him in avoiding trial, let alone conviction, but you simply can't call him a four times offender. He has one official conviction in ICC-recognised cricket.

With respect to [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION]'s claims:

1) Amir, Asif and Butt all claimed innocence to the bitter end in terms of their ICC convictions and bans. Amir did not plead guilty.

2) Butt only became skipper after Amir was into fixing up to his neck. Read the ICC hearing transcript and findings: Amir was almost certainly engaged in dubious activity before Butt - there are countless calls logged between Amir on tour to the West Indies and established fixers. This was no more evil Salman Butt corrupting innocent little Mohammad Amir than the old fairy tale of evil Bobby Brown corrupting innocent Whitney Houston.

3) Amir and Butt each bear full responsibility for their five year bans: they should have known right from wrong and both had marked News of the World money in their hotel safes. The only relatively innocent one was Asif, who had no marked notes because he did his no-ball as a reluctant favour, rather than for cash.
 
Aman said:
Can't believe people are happy with this.

This clown robbed you of 5 years of Amir and lied to the world for years.
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PCB cannot discriminate against these two. Will open themselves to load of legal hogwash.

Good luck to both Asif and Butt. Will be unfair for Amir to come back and for them not to.

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Aman said:
Can't believe people are happy with this.

This clown robbed you of 5 years of Amir and lied to the world for years.
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true. but they have completed their punishment and if Aamir is allowed to come back then it won't be fair if they aren't
 
Heck of an effort...first match for 5 years and he does that. Pakistan domestic standards aren't that sh*t - this is impressive. Still find it hard to believe he'll be back in the team...there is just too much animosity towards him, between the fans and the players.
 
Should be drafted in the side ASAP, Pakistan really need these two under the circumstances, Butt is head and shoulders over the current hunch we've got, Asif quality is hard to ignore plus they both have quality characters and charisma to back them up, much much humble and modest than their other convicted compatriot.
 
Not unexpected had 5 years to fix all the problems in his technique etc.
I don't they will be allowed back into the side by England series. But if both keep performing in domestic and players in the national side don't do well noise about bringing them back will keep increasing.

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Aman said:
Can't believe people are happy with this.

This clown robbed you of 5 years of Amir and lied to the world for years.
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only a clown would believe that Amir was manipulated into fixing in the first place.
 
Usman Chadda said:
PCB cannot discriminate against these two. Will open themselves to load of legal hogwash.

Good luck to both Asif and Butt. Will be unfair for Amir to come back and for them not to.

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Why do people keep repeating this? Asif is a 4 time wrong doer. Of course you can always discriminate between a kid who got caught and a 4 times repeat offender under any law, any rule
 
Indiafan said:
Why do people keep repeating this? Asif is a 4 time wrong doer. Of course you can always discriminate between a kid who got caught and a 4 times repeat offender under any law, any rule
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PCB cant. On legal grounds. Calm down. I know its hard for you but thats how it is.

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Of course the inexorable logic of supporting one convicted man extends naturally to supporting all. Next up- Kaneria.
 
Usman Chadda said:
PCB cant. On legal grounds. Calm down. I know its hard for you but thats how it is.

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Again do you even understand what those words mean? A four time offender is treated as same as a 17 year old kid in your fantasy world?

PCB can. They won't because they lack the spine. Two different things

And finally a board can choose who they want. They just need to say he did not satisfy. Can Razzak sue PCB if he is not selected in the XI for the next series?
 
Indiafan said:
Again do you even understand what those words mean? A four time offender is treated as same as a 17 year old kid in your fantasy world?

PCB can. They won't because they lack the spine. Two different things

And finally a board can choose who they want. They just need to say he did not satisfy. Can Razzak sue PCB if he is not selected in the XI for the next series?
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All three were cleared by the ICC at the same time. They were banned by the ICC, not the PCB. PCB cannot ban them for an offence thet committed 5 years ago.

Please don't bring in something as irrevelant as Razzaq here.

Jazbaaton pe qaaboo rakho dost. You'll get over it don't worry.

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Madplayer said:
How many balls did salman make his century in??

How many overs has asif bowled?
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Salman Butt returns to Cricket with a century, scores 135 off 143 for WAPDA vs FATA, innings include 12 boundaries.

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Aman said:
Can't believe people are happy with this.

This clown robbed you of 5 years of Amir and lied to the world for years.
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If he has served his time and served his punishment then he has every right to play domestic cricket and international cricket.
 
tahir_dj said:
Everytime their is a thread regarding these 3 players
Indians comes out of their holes like ants and ranting samething over and over again
As if their own country or cricket is cleaner than the white colour
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Not sure BCCI allows any one caught in fixing scandal and play in domestic or international cricket.
 
Indiafan said:
They were banned because their owners were involved in betting (not fixing). And none of the players were involved. It was seen as a conflict of interest when owners bet. The Sreesanth spot fixing was a different issue and all players were banned
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And how would the owner win the bet?
I am sure they wouldnt bet to loose money would they?
They would ask the players to score or concede certain amount of runs in certain over. And they know the outcome of the match and the overs What does that make?
Only the owner guilty or the players too?
 
dandapinda said:
Not sure BCCI allows any one caught in fixing scandal and play in domestic or international cricket.
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Yet they allow them to join other team eh..
And allow the team invovled in fixing to be banned for only 2 years that tooafter the court force them too

Yet people like you always look over the wall and tryto find faults in your neighbours
 
dandapinda said:
Not sure BCCI allows any one caught in fixing scandal and play in domestic or international cricket.
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O i also forgot to add they also have a history of being sulky cry babies. That other boards have to choose their president according to bcci demands.

Thats like a kid saying
O you took my toys now i dont wanna play with you..
 
Indiafan said:
Yes, those are the conjectures you can make. However the fact is

1) No such proof came out that there was undue pressure to do something

2) The betters lost a lot of money and did not win. Which would not have been the case if they had insider info
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There was no proof, but despite that, the individuals and the teams concerned were banned! That's a good one. I'm sure some will believe you.
 
Yossarian said:
There was no proof, but despite that, the individuals and the teams concerned were banned! That's a good one. I'm sure some will believe you.
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And that envelope which containted thenames of current international players is never made public i wonder why..

The indians can hide is as much as they can we wont forget that too. I guess their only job is to bash pcb and Pakistani players and completely ignoring their own problems in their backyards.
If they have so much problem with these players, no one is forcing them to follow Pak cricket yet they just cant help themselves.
 
Anyway this thread is about
Amir and Salman performance watch thread.
So please [MENTION=4542]MO[/MENTION]ds tell indians to stop infesting it with their moral rants
 
Smbhayi said:
Actually they lost huge amount of money by betting
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Well even with fixing, there's no guarantee that the result will go the way of the fixer, due to the performance of a player not in on the fix and/or the performance of the opposition. All a fix does is to increase or decrease the chances compared with the betting odds. A fix does not 100% guarantee an outcome.
eg A batsman is supposed to score, say, four or less in an over. But the opposition bowler bowls a no-ball which the batsman nicks, and which goes to the boundary, giving the batsman 5 runs.
 
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