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A Saudi teenager is facing death by crucifixion in his home country of Saudi Arabia on charges activists say are politically motivated.

In 2012, Ali Mohammed al-Nimr, then 17, was arrested in the country's Qatif province on reportedly shaky charges of illegal protesting and gun possession, the International Business Times reported Wednesday. There was never any evidence to support the guns charge.

After being arrested, al-Nimr was held in jail and not allowed to speak to a lawyer. According to the British legal aid group Reprieve, al-Nimr was subject to torture to extract a forced confession. A closed appeals process — which he was not invited to and occurred without his knowledge — dismissed any remaining possibility that the nation's legal system would prevent his biblical execution.

"No one should have to go through the ordeal Ali has suffered — torture, forced 'confession' and an unfair, secret trial process, resulting in a sentence of death by 'crucifixion,'" Maya Foa, director of Reprieve, said in a statement.

Al-Nimr was reportedly targeted because his uncle, Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr, is a noted critic of the kingdom, and is scheduled to be executed Thursday. Foa continued in the statement:

"Ali was a vulnerable child when he was arrested and this ordeal began. His execution — based apparently on the authorities' dislike for his uncle, and his involvement in anti-government protests — would violate international law and the most basic standards of decency. It must be stopped."

Saudi Arabia is one of the world's last absolute monarchies, and its legal system has long been criticized as arbitrary and unjust. While most nations have moved away from capital punishment, Saudi Arabia had done the opposite. Under new king Salman, executions are up, with dozens carried out this year. The kingdom recently made headlines after the Ministry of Civil Service posted an official notice seeking qualified executioners.
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The Saudi regime's harsh stance toward political and religious dissent stands in contrast toward the kingdom's treatment of mostly Sunni terrorists, many of whom have avowed desires to attack the Unites States and Saudi Arabia itself. Prisons, which stress a "rehabilitative" approach, shower inmates with perks like expensive food and laundry. "Without the program, thousands of those who were released would have been exploited by terrorist organizations," Maj. Gen. Mansour al-Turki, a spokesman for the Saudi Interior Ministry, told Arab News last year.

The treatment of al-Nimr, however, demonstrates the fault lines of official Saudi tolerance. "Saudi Arabia is one of the countries that executes the most people in the world, often after people have been tortured into confessions or had unfair trials," Reprieve press officer Alice Gillham told Mic. "It's pretty shocking that this person was convicted as a juvenile and is now set to be executed."

Online, meanwhile, the Internet protested against the planned execution, under the hashtag #FreeNimr.

http://mic.com/articles/125468/saud...imr-has-been-sentenced-to-dead-by-crucifixion
 
Are there any sane ones here who doesn't hate Saudi to the core?

But maybe we shouldn't cos Saudi was just made the head of human rights of some committee in UN.

I mean that has got to mean something.
 
Are there any sane ones here who doesn't hate Saudi to the core?

But maybe we shouldn't cos Saudi was just made the head of human rights of some committee in UN.

I mean that has got to mean something.


most do but Pakistan is built on saudi money, if you are prostituted to someone for life its hard to come out against them when thats whats needed. This is true for a lot of the sunni world. Saudis throw money so people can turn a blind eye to there hypocrisies
 
Says an American website where blacks are killed without any reason

They're reporting the news, they aren't a representation of the system in place systemically going after minority groups without reason.

What a silly point.
 
They're reporting the news, they aren't a representation of the system in place systemically going after minority groups without reason.

What a silly point.

lol that dude is known for making silly points like this. no point in arguing/debating anything with him
 
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Cameron evasive when challenged on Saudi Arabia by Jon Snow. Watch from 5:24.
 
"Our relationship with Saudi Arabia is because we receive important intelligence/security information that keeps us safe."

"The reason we have the relationship is our own national security. Whilst I've been PM a bomb that could've blown up in Britain was stopped because of information from Saudi Arabia."

"Saudi Arabia have a good record of de-radicalising people who have become jihadis." Not quite Dave - they simply choose to send them to other countries to do their dirty work !

Its interesting to note how much he's emphasising the national security point. Basically the Saudis seem to be saying "don't lecture us about human rights or we'll let the terrorists loose."
 
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Cameron evasive when challenged on Saudi Arabia by Jon Snow. Watch from 5:24.

"Saudi have a good record of de-radicalising people"

"We made a deal with the saudies because they gave us intel which prevented the UK from being bombed"

:))) :))) :)))
 
"Our relationship with Saudi Arabia is because we receive important intelligence/security information that keeps us safe."

"The reason we have the relationship is our own national security. Whilst I've been PM a bomb that could've blown up in Britain was stopped because of information from Saudi Arabia."

"Saudi Arabia have a good record of de-radicalising people who have become jihadis." Not quite Dave - they simply choose to send them to other countries to do their dirty work !

Its interesting to note how much he's emphasising the national security point. Basically the Saudis seem to be saying "don't lecture us about human rights or we'll let the terrorists loose."

The usual narrative used to pretty much justify the decisions the MOD make and dirty deals this demented pig "loving":uakmal tosser is responsible for.
 
most do but Pakistan is built on saudi money, if you are prostituted to someone for life its hard to come out against them when thats whats needed. This is true for a lot of the sunni world. Saudis throw money so people can turn a blind eye to there hypocrisies

Pretty strong words for Pakistan.
 
Pretty strong words for Pakistan.

just because its hard to admit doesnt make it untrue. Lots of Pakistanis think China will be there financially for Pakistan: They wont, at least not in the same way as the saudis. The chinese will invest which is what we need as well but the saudis have injected more cash into our economy and provided more for aid work in disasters or otherwise then the chinese or the americans.

Thats why we are prostituted to them
 
just because its hard to admit doesnt make it untrue. Lots of Pakistanis think China will be there financially for Pakistan: They wont, at least not in the same way as the saudis. The chinese will invest which is what we need as well but the saudis have injected more cash into our economy and provided more for aid work in disasters or otherwise then the chinese or the americans.

Thats why we are prostituted to them

Have to agree although i don't really like saudis but they have helped us too much (although for their own agendas) Saudis provided us free oil in 1999 when there were sanctions against Pakistan and they also do it time to time in disaster situations and i am not sure about the situation now but there were reports in past that Saudis used to give free oil for Pak Military (but well pak army also used to help them time to time so it wasn't free at all)
 
just because its hard to admit doesnt make it untrue. Lots of Pakistanis think China will be there financially for Pakistan: They wont, at least not in the same way as the saudis. The chinese will invest which is what we need as well but the saudis have injected more cash into our economy and provided more for aid work in disasters or otherwise then the chinese or the americans.

Thats why we are prostituted to them

Yes, but calling a country prostitute is not very correct, don't you think ?
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/15/outcry-as-saudi-arabia-executes-young-shia-man-for-rebellion

Saudi Arabia has executed a young man who was convicted on charges stemming from his participation in an anti-government rebellion by minority Shia Muslims. A leading rights group said his trial was “deeply flawed”.

It was unclear whether Mustafa bin Hashim bin Isa al-Darwish, 26, was executed for crimes committed as a minor, according to Amnesty International. The rights group said he was detained in 2015 for alleged participation in riots between 2011 and 2012.

The official charge sheet does not specify the dates his alleged crimes took place, meaning he could have been 17 at the time, or just turned 18.

The government maintains he was convicted and executed for crimes committed above the age of 19, though no specific dates for his alleged crimes have been given.

Last year, the kingdom halted its practice of executing people for crimes committed as a minor.

The interior ministry said he was executed on Tuesday after being found guilty of participating in the formation of an armed terrorist cell to monitor and target to kill police officers, attempting to kill police officers, shooting at police patrols and making molotov cocktails to target police.

Other charges included participating in armed rebellion against the ruler and provoking chaos and sectarian strife. The crimes allegedly transpired in the eastern province, where most Saudi oil is concentrated and home to a significant indigenous Shia population. The execution was carried out in Dammam, the province’s administrative capital.

At the height of arab spring uprisings across the region, the kingdom experienced unrest among Saudi Shia youth who took to the eastern province’s impoverished streets of Qatif. They demanded jobs, better opportunities and an end to discrimination by the kingdom’s ultraconservative state-backed Sunni institutions and clerics.

Saudi security forces backed by armoured vehicles set up checkpoints and suppressed the protests, rounding up an unknown number of protesters. The government later razed homes belonging to Shia residents of the restive city of al-Awamiyah in 2017 in an area that was several hundred years old. Officials said the al-Musawara district had become a hideout for local militants, and promised to develop the area.

Over the years, numerous executions of Shia Muslims involved in violent protests have been carried out.

In 2019, Saudi Arabia executed 37 citizens, of which 34 were identified as Shia, in a mass execution for alleged terrorism-related crimes. In 2016, the kingdom executed 47 people in one day also for terrorism-related crimes. Among those executed was prominent Shia cleric Nimr al-Nimr, whose death sparked protests from Pakistan to Iran and the ransacking of the Saudi embassy in Tehran. Saudi-Iran ties have not recovered and the embassy remains shuttered.

The kingdom has in the past implicitly accused Iran of being behind armed Shia groups in Saudi Arabia, saying they are acting “under instructions from abroad”.

Amnesty International said al-Darwish, who was arrested when he was 20, was placed in solitary confinement, held incommunicado for six months and denied access to a lawyer until the beginning of his trial two years later by the specialized criminal court in Riyadh, established to try terrorism cases.

The supreme court upheld al-Darwish’s death sentence. Amnesty International said his case was then referred to the presidency of state security, which is overseen directly by the royal court and over which Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman wields immense power. The Saudi monarch, King Salman, ratifies executions, most of which are carried out by beheading.

The kingdom has carried out 26 executions so far this year, according to the European Saudi Organization for Human Rights. That’s compared with 27 throughout all of 2020. The sharp drop in executions last year was largely due to changes that ended executions for nonviolent drug-related crimes.
 
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