Say what you want, but Babar Azam is still Pakistan’s most gifted batter

[sithb]

A bit older subset. The decline for Viv was marked.

 

[sithb]

Anyway coming back to the topic f babar. He doesn't have the game to reinvent himself as a batsman.

 

[Sachin fan]

Kohli isn't a hand eye player. He just was a limited batsman that got found out in tests

He is definitely a hand eye player like ponting which is why he always lunges and reaches for the ball and has next to no game square of the wicket on off. He reaches for the ball most time based on instinct and doesn't play the ball late on merit. This is the biggest hall mark of a hand eye player.

 

[TheSultan]

Sachin was close t 40 as well. The point is that Viv's decline was really marked.

Not really. I just don’t think Viv had the appetite to go back to the well. He had nothing to prove.

Sachin had a very poor mid 2000s and went back to the well because for some reason he felt he had something to prove. Why he felt so unfulfilled you’ll have to ask him.

Every batsman is different. I think Sachin only knew cricket, probably the only constant in his life. I feel sorry for him as he was in the spotlight since he was a little boy.

Some of the other players probably just wanted to enjoy life.

 

[sithb]

He is definitely a hand eye player like ponting which is why he always lunges and reaches for the ball and has next to no game square of the wicket on off. He reaches for the ball most time based on instinct and doesn't play the ball late on merit. This is the biggest hall mark of a hand eye player.

Probably means he's lost his coordination when he was in the 20s.

He's lunging forward because his technique is defective. A better batsman would have stopped and played on backfoot

 

[sithb]

Hand eye coordination players play as late as possible. They dont make a definitive foot movement forward or backwards.

Kohli isn't a hand eye coordination player

 

[sithb]

And Kohli could never pick the ball out of the hand.

 

[hassan918]

And Kohli could never pick the ball out of the hand.

Is it your own opinion?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Shaheen Afridi said “Babar Azam’s catch was awesome. He’s a superman.”


He is here to stay

 

[SportsWarrior]

Viv was hand eye type player as well. He really looked bad during the last.2 years or so of his career. People tend to invite that because we look at overall career.

At some stage , even players with the best technique can't stop the deterioration of hand eye coordination as age catched up

He had a decline in the last two years. I remember watching his series against India where he got an hundred and it was pretty scratchy. Only against England he looked good but that was because England was practically his home for several years

 

[hassan918]

England was practically his home for several years

Where did this come from?

 

[Hitman]

He had a decline in the last two years. I remember watching his series against India where he got an hundred and it was pretty scratchy. Only against England he looked good but that was because England was practically his home for several years

Viv declined badly in the last 3 years of his career. I'm speaking of Tests. Even Imran Khan said Viv should have retired in 1988, rather than 1991.

 

[sithb]

Is it your own opinion?

Look at how he got out against spin , seam. That speaks totally about how he isn't picking from the bowlers hand. He plays from the length of the ball. Anytime , the ball does something, he looks at sea

 

[BouncerGuy]

Look at how he got out against spin , seam. That speaks totally about how he isn't picking from the bowlers hand. He plays from the length of the ball. Anytime , the ball does something, he looks at sea

Same issue with Babar... He is neither on back foot nor on front foot... He gets stuck

 

[sithb]

Kohli is a very un indian like player in terms of his batting style. Australian pitches suited him because there isn't too much spin/sideways movement of the ball. He can play on the length of the ball. That didn't suit him in Indian conditions too much because whenever there's a spinning ball , he doesn't pick the ball from the bowler's hands. He can't read spin bowling.

There's plenty of his cricket that can be admired but his batting ability is average at best.

 

[sithb]

Where did this come from?

Played County cricket for lot of years.