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Scrapping Article 370 - We have been looted

Nobody is claiming this a victory, not even BJP. This is just a begining to road to recovery.Whole India wants all Kashmiris to enjoy the fundamental rights of the consititution not just part of it.

Who matter more you or MPs?
Lol enjoying all rights by putting whole kashmir in jail.
 
Who matter more you or MPs?
Lol enjoying all rights by putting whole kashmir in jail.

Putting some people who want violence i more than peace in jail is not wrong. Stop living life in denial.Free Kashmir is not an option, then every state in every country want to be their own country.

This nonsense that Azad kashmir is some salvation in ridiculous. Are you a Kashmiri so what is you want???
 
China opposes #India putting Chinese territory in the western section of the border under its administration, which affects China's territorial integrity and sovereignty. It is "unacceptable and void:" FM (File photo: VCG) #Ladakh https://t.co/enlX4YAV9v

China Claiming Ladakh and opposing scrapping of 370..
 
China opposes #India putting Chinese territory in the western section of the border under its administration, which affects China's territorial integrity and sovereignty. It is "unacceptable and void:" FM (File photo: VCG) #Ladakh https://t.co/enlX4YAV9v

China Claiming Ladakh and opposing scrapping of 370..

Its not opposing 370, its opposing part of Ladakh thats all which is fair to them.

The only ones opposing 370 abolishing are Pakistan and maybe Turkey but no statement yet.
 
Its not opposing 370, its opposing part of Ladakh thats all which is fair to them.

The only ones opposing 370 abolishing are Pakistan and maybe Turkey but no statement yet.

And those who matter most people of j&k except few
 
You are a joker lol free money

The jokes on you. Apparently you had no idea about the alms u get from GOI and are chest thumping about consumption stats. And then you are a representative of all Kashmiris. Lol!!
 
The jokes on you. Apparently you had no idea about the alms u get from GOI and are chest thumping about consumption stats. And then you are a representative of all Kashmiris. Lol!!
When I don't get anything why should I kept an idea? No itz u from bihar, up who represent us kashmiris fool
 
When I don't get anything why should I kept an idea? No itz u from bihar, up who represent us kashmiris fool

When you don't get anything?? Then why are you chest thumping when you are not even part of it. Lol stop being a joke dude. I can call you names too but I've schooled you enough.
 
How is the situation back in Jammu and Kashmir ? Are the people aware that Section 370 was been removed by the Indian government and what has been the reaction to it so far?
There are at least four to five security persons at everyones door. People are not even to come outside gate. But some reports are coming that there has already 36 casualties but there is no way to confirm. A friend working in Hospital has said such things where net is working for staff. People have listened and are heart broken, faces seems defeated, Those who are in contact are crying. It will be the largest uprising until now. We won't quit.
 
When you don't get anything?? Then why are you chest thumping when you are not even part of it. Lol stop being a joke dude. I can call you names too but I've schooled you enough.
Ok you tell me what kashmiris are getting from govt?
 
There are at least four to five security persons at everyones door. People are not even to come outside gate. But some reports are coming that there has already 36 casualties but there is no way to confirm. A friend working in Hospital has said such things where net is working for staff. People have listened and are heart broken, faces seems defeated, Those who are in contact are crying. It will be the largest uprising until now. We won't quit.

That's good. The fact that India is still not allowing media and internet access in Kashmir shows how the response has been from the Kashmiris.
 
That's good. The fact that India is still not allowing media and internet access in Kashmir shows how the response has been from the Kashmiris.
This is the limit what India has done and the dreams that India is today dreaming will remain dreams
 
This is the limit what India has done and the dreams that India is today dreaming will remain dreams

[MENTION=132658]m.shah[/MENTION] don't get disheartened. Things may not be bad as you worry at the moment.

I say a few central ministers on TV who spoke about the extensive work already put in place to get top industrialists to invest in Kashmir. Even Bollywood has been contacted and the government is serious about investing heavily (we are talking billions of dollars) into Kashmir. Top educational institutes and hospitals are also being planned.

I was surprised that this Modi government had already worked out the details of investments into Kashmir well before this article 370 was revoked.

Just be patient and give it time. This may be the beginning of historic advancement and all round development in Kashmir.
 
I am in the process of buying land in Kashmir. And as a future Kashmiri, I could not be happier about this decision :-)
 
There are at least four to five security persons at everyones door. People are not even to come outside gate. But some reports are coming that there has already 36 casualties but there is no way to confirm. A friend working in Hospital has said such things where net is working for staff. People have listened and are heart broken, faces seems defeated, Those who are in contact are crying. It will be the largest uprising until now. We won't quit.

Just remember to not throw stones. Else dont come back complaining about pellet guns
 
Buying land doesn't change your ethnicity.

Being a Kashmiri will have two meanings in the future, either your ethnicity is Kashmiri or once you own land in Kashmir and have lived there for years ( in kashmir or any other place for a long time ) you will become a Local .
 
Anybody that speaks Kashmiri as a first language and is Kashmiri by lineage is a Kashmiri. A Punjabi moving to Chennai doesn't make him a Tamil.

Unfortunately you don’t make the rules. As long as you domicile in a state, you are a legal citizen of the state. It does not matter if you call yourself Punjabi or Tamilian
 
Unfortunately you don’t make the rules. As long as you domicile in a state, you are a legal citizen of the state. It does not matter if you call yourself Punjabi or Tamilian

Being domiciled doesn't change your ethnicity, me moving to iceland won't make me white. You moving to Kashmir won't ever make you a Kashmiri, just be proud of who you are but I understand you may not like your current ethnicity and I don't blame you.
 
Being domiciled doesn't change your ethnicity, me moving to iceland won't make me white. You moving to Kashmir won't ever make you a Kashmiri, just be proud of who you are but I understand you may not like your current ethnicity and I don't blame you.

Who cares about ethnicity? I only care about legality munna
 
I am feeling for you. Some community or country threatens 1.3bn people,their consequences will not be pretty.

Likes of Burhan Wani found that out.

Lol Burhan Wani, hey at least he is in heaven now :). Looks like all his hard work has come to fruition with rest of India soon migrating to Kashmir :angel:
 
Get A Wife From Kashmir’: Article 370 News Has Sparked A Horrible Wave Of Misogyny

Apparently there are many social media posts from Hinduvta loons about getting Kashmiri wives.

It is remarkable how much self-loathing and inferiority complex is a part of their genetic make-up.
 
Buying land doesn't change your ethnicity.

Now that article 370 has been thrown into the garbage bin Kashmiri women are free to marry with non Kashmiris and retain all the property and inheritance rights, which were earlier forbidden under 370.
So now anyone living/settling and marrying Kashmiri women, can enjoy not just the happiness of a bountiful married life there, they can be sure that inheritance rights now stretched wide open by Modi/Shah will ensure that the resulting Kashmiri children out of such Kashmiri-NonKashmiri spouses, will enjoy all the benefits that were previously denied to such families.

I see a lot of inter marriages between Kashmiris and Non Kashmiris on the horizon, as more and more people, capital, and businesses get established in Kashmir. True melting pot right before our eyes. We truly are living in historic times.
 
Get A Wife From Kashmir’: Article 370 News Has Sparked A Horrible Wave Of Misogyny

Apparently there are many social media posts from Hinduvta loons about getting Kashmiri wives.

It is remarkable how much self-loathing and inferiority complex is a part of their genetic make-up.

What is wrong if a Kashmiri and Non Kashmiri fall in love and marry. I shall any day take love over hate and bloodshed.
 
I am in the process of buying land in Kashmir. And as a future Kashmiri, I could not be happier about this decision :-)

You probably thought about it but you aren’t in no process of buying anything in Indian occupying Kashmir.
 
Future plans:

Ethnic cleansing

Population displacement

Re population with Hindus

Mas murder.

A racist and extremists ideology.

But majority of Indian are okay with it.

The exact same points are being perpetrated by Pakistan's 'All weather friend' in China with the Uighur muslims. Yet Pakistan time and again votes against UN resolutions to stop China from persecuting Uighurs.

So why are Pakistani friends not outraged about the Chinese persecuting Uighur muslims?
 
Lol at all the Indian posters that are devolving in front of our eyes. You can sing to yourself as many lullabies as you want nothing is gonna change. This paradise will remain the hellhole your army made it .

Let's be real no one from mainland india is moving to Kashmir unless they are surrounded by 30 soldiers rest of their lives

And the marriage one had me rolling on the floor. Surely Hindutva brigade wouldn't walk straight into love jihad trap so easily.
 
I am in the process of buying land in Kashmir. And as a future Kashmiri, I could not be happier about this decision :-)

You have such an Inferiority complex like many other Indians. Be happy with what you are
 
Get A Wife From Kashmir’: Article 370 News Has Sparked A Horrible Wave Of Misogyny

Apparently there are many social media posts from Hinduvta loons about getting Kashmiri wives.

It is remarkable how much self-loathing and inferiority complex is a part of their genetic make-up.

If only 370 was between getting kashmiri wives lol
 
China opposes #India putting Chinese territory in the western section of the border under its administration, which affects China's territorial integrity and sovereignty. It is "unacceptable and void:" FM (File photo: VCG) #Ladakh https://t.co/enlX4YAV9v

China Claiming Ladakh and opposing scrapping of 370..

These are minor things for two economic giants of Asia with an increasingly intertwined economy - China and India. Yet, another multi billion trade deal between India with China, and things will go further closer between China and India.

India does not go with a lota in hand begging in front of China, like some 'all weather friend' of China does. China treats self respecting nations differently and lota carrying nations differently.
 
Lol at all the Indian posters that are devolving in front of our eyes. You can sing to yourself as many lullabies as you want nothing is gonna change. This paradise will remain the hellhole your army made it .

Let's be real no one from mainland india is moving to Kashmir unless they are surrounded by 30 soldiers rest of their lives

And the marriage one had me rolling on the floor. Surely Hindutva brigade wouldn't walk straight into love jihad trap so easily.

When their army can't go outside camps without bullet proof vehicles.. These kids are dreaming of buying land in kashmir
 
Lol at all the Indian posters that are devolving in front of our eyes. You can sing to yourself as many lullabies as you want nothing is gonna change. This paradise will remain the hellhole your army made it .

Let's be real no one from mainland india is moving to Kashmir unless they are surrounded by 30 soldiers rest of their lives

And the marriage one had me rolling on the floor. Surely Hindutva brigade wouldn't walk straight into love jihad trap so easily.

For every 10 Kashmiri, India has 1 soldier.

India has to commit genocide and Modi is lunatic extremists who might attempt to commit genocide but that won’t last for a long time.
 
The exact same points are being perpetrated by Pakistan's 'All weather friend' in China with the Uighur muslims. Yet Pakistan time and again votes against UN resolutions to stop China from persecuting Uighurs.

So why are Pakistani friends not outraged about the Chinese persecuting Uighur muslims?

How is that related to Kashmir or you ?
 
Now that article 370 has been thrown into the garbage bin Kashmiri women are free to marry with non Kashmiris and retain all the property and inheritance rights, which were earlier forbidden under 370.
So now anyone living/settling and marrying Kashmiri women, can enjoy not just the happiness of a bountiful married life there, they can be sure that inheritance rights now stretched wide open by Modi/Shah will ensure that the resulting Kashmiri children out of such Kashmiri-NonKashmiri spouses, will enjoy all the benefits that were previously denied to such families.

I see a lot of inter marriages between Kashmiris and Non Kashmiris on the horizon, as more and more people, capital, and businesses get established in Kashmir. True melting pot right before our eyes. We truly are living in historic times.

That's a lot of wishful thinking :)) Kashmiris are mostly Muslim and will never marry hindus except for the occasional statistical outlier. Also in the subcontinent people mainly marry within their ethnicity and community, India is not America. Kashmiris generally prefer other Kashmiris for marriage so I'm afraid your dream is just that, a dream. :))
 
What is wrong if a Kashmiri and Non Kashmiri fall in love and marry. I shall any day take love over hate and bloodshed.

You clearly have a higher opinion of attractiveness of Hinduvta loons than I do.

Just read a first person account of a Kashmiri woman who flew out of Srinagar and how humiliating and difficult the whole process was.

I am not in favour of Article 370 but I do not approve of the way the govt has gone about getting rid of it .

As a Sikh who has read extensively about the troubles in Punjab,it will be interesting to see how Kashmir reacts.
 
India has taken off his own leg here by scrapping 370. Many intelligent Indians are calling this a complete disaster. Just wait and see what the devastating results of this will be. The situation in IOK will be complete war now. Lets see Kashmiri pundits settle there is they are so confident.
 
Article 370 was Nehru's mistake. It was illegally added to Indian constitution nearly 2 years after Kashmir joined Indian union. After so many years of Congress party rule, an Indian government headed by BJP had to fix it. Having said that, I hope the government doesn't act in a way to please its religious extremist followers and hope it works sincerely towards peace and prosperity in Kashmir.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"We are deeply concerned that the latest restrictions in Indian-Administered <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a> will exacerbate the human rights situation in the region. The fact that hardly any information at all is currently coming out is of great concern in itself," -- <a href="https://twitter.com/UNHumanRights?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UNHumanRights</a> spokesperson. <a href="https://t.co/xGsBjOlVB5">pic.twitter.com/xGsBjOlVB5</a></p>— UN Geneva (@UNGeneva) <a href="https://twitter.com/UNGeneva/status/1159068945565003777?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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TN outfits protest near Raj Bhavan in Chennai against removal of Article 370


http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/tamil-nadu/2019/aug/06/tn-outfits-protest-near-raj-bhavan-in-chennai-against-removal-of-article-370-2015058.html

Kerala CPI(M), Cong flay Centre over abrogation of Article 370


https://english.mathrubhumi.com/news/kerala/cpi-m-cong-flay-centre-over-abrogation-of-article-370-1.4019190


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DYFI Kerala takes out protest march against centres decision to revoke article 370 in J&K <a href="https://t.co/8fwFr6qsQB">pic.twitter.com/8fwFr6qsQB</a></p>— NijeeshTOI (@NijeeshTOI) <a href="https://twitter.com/NijeeshTOI/status/1158342197403504640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TN outfits protest near Raj Bhavan in Chennai against removal of Article 370 – The New Indian Express <a href="https://t.co/htet5MMQJF">https://t.co/htet5MMQJF</a> <a href="https://t.co/zZylXKTWAg">pic.twitter.com/zZylXKTWAg</a></p>— Chennai Informer (@chennaiinformer) <a href="https://twitter.com/chennaiinformer/status/1158798006961000448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Inspite of threats from RW folks, protest carries on . We condemn this assualt on Kashmir,on Kashmiris, on our constitution<br><br>Restore 370, 35 A<br><br>We stand with Kashmir and Kashmiri people. <a href="https://t.co/PEvwl1bzwV">pic.twitter.com/PEvwl1bzwV</a></p>— AICCTU Karnataka (@aicctukar) <a href="https://twitter.com/aicctukar/status/1158355404838932480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Protest against BJP's Constitutional Coup and tearing it to shreds. We demand restoration of Art 370 and 35A <a href="https://t.co/drY3m2XLF6">pic.twitter.com/drY3m2XLF6</a></p>— CPI-ML Liberation (@cpimlliberation) <a href="https://twitter.com/cpimlliberation/status/1159009775104884738?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A small glimpse of Protest March in Patna against <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MurderofDemocracy?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MurderofDemocracy</a> in Jammu and Kashmir. The March calls for defending Article 370, democracy and constitution. <a href="https://t.co/7ZTTqLy0p2">pic.twitter.com/7ZTTqLy0p2</a></p>— cpimbihar (@CPIMBIHAR) <a href="https://twitter.com/CPIMBIHAR/status/1159149248803328000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kashmiri Students talks about their experiences of being disconnected with family and abrogation of Articke 370 at the protest meet in Mumbai. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KashmirBleeds?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KashmirBleeds</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KashmirIssue?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KashmirIssue</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StandWithKashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StandWithKashmir</a> <a href="https://t.co/yuIk5X083d">pic.twitter.com/yuIk5X083d</a></p>— Varsha (@varshapoddar94) <a href="https://twitter.com/varshapoddar94/status/1159112454963515394?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Glimpses of the protest march today in Delhi called by Left parties, against the destruction of the state of Jammu and Kashmir, and in defence of Article 370.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StandForKashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StandForKashmir</a> <a href="https://t.co/YHbJqtx9ex">pic.twitter.com/YHbJqtx9ex</a></p>— CPIM DELHI (@CPIMSTATEDELHI) <a href="https://twitter.com/CPIMSTATEDELHI/status/1159060964378939392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Activists of 6 left oriented organisations denouncing scrapping of article 370 frm J&K held protest at Bathinda, activists of AFDR, Lok sangram manch, Kirti kisan union, Punjab students union, Inquilabi lok morcha Inquilabi Kendra Pb alleged Kashmir has been turned into open jail <a href="https://t.co/YKw2JivDU9">pic.twitter.com/YKw2JivDU9</a></p>— Neel Kamal (@NeelkamalTOI) <a href="https://twitter.com/NeelkamalTOI/status/1159047448410542080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Protest Rally organised by SFI PU against the scrapping of Article 370 and 35(A) and the attack on democracy and people in Kashmir. <br>ABVP tried to disrupt the gathering by bursting crackers upon the incoming rally at Ponlait circle and hurling abuses.<a href="https://twitter.com/SfiJnuUnit?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SfiJnuUnit</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/SFI_CEC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SFI_CEC</a> <a href="https://t.co/LtQ4x8a8U3">pic.twitter.com/LtQ4x8a8U3</a></p>— SFI Puducherry (@sfipuducherry) <a href="https://twitter.com/sfipuducherry/status/1158814163969269760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Protests in Bhopal condemning the absolutely undemocratic manner in which the NDA Govt. has muzzled all dissent and unilaterally revoked Article 370, without any consultation with the people & political parties in Kashmir. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KashmirBleeds?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KashmirBleeds</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StandwithKashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StandwithKashmir</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KashmirUnderThreat?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KashmirUnderThreat</a> <a href="https://t.co/Ys1QnfolnM">pic.twitter.com/Ys1QnfolnM</a></p>— Meera Sanghamitra (@meeracomposes) <a href="https://twitter.com/meeracomposes/status/1158373959991042048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Restore Articles 370 and 35A! <br>Release all opposition leaders in Kashmir!<br>Do not play with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Constitution?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Constitution</a>!<a href="https://twitter.com/cpimlliberation?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@cpimlliberation</a> Protest in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kolkata?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kolkata</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StandwithKashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StandwithKashmir</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Article35A?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Article35A</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Articles370?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Articles370</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Article370Abolished?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Article370Abolished</a> <a href="https://t.co/jwPtuuJZIe">pic.twitter.com/jwPtuuJZIe</a></p>— Madhurima (@Madhurima_ML) <a href="https://twitter.com/Madhurima_ML/status/1158404811080925184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I was once a big supporter of SFI , sad LEFT is alienating themselves hard to take out my bias for em but as I have grown older realized world is not fair nd equal.
Still respect to em for protesting it believing in idealism.
 
Congress leader Digvijay Singh makes promises to consider revoking Article 370 !

Congress leader Digvijay Singh makes shocking promises to a Pakistan-origin journalist about Kashmir

In a conversation with a Pakistani-origin journalist Digvijay Singh gave a hint at reversing the decision by the Modi government to revoke Article 370 in Jammu and Kashmir.


During the conversation, Digvijaya said, “Democracy was not there in Kashmir when they revoked Article 370, ‘insaniyat’ was not there as they had put everyone behind bars. Meanwhile, ‘Kashmiriyat’ is something that is the fundamentals of secularism. Because in a Muslim-majority state there was a Hindu king and both worked together. In fact, the reservation in Kashmir was given to Kashmiri pandits, therefore, the decision of revoking Article 370 and reducing the statehood of J&K, is a sad decision. And the Congress party will certainly have to relook at this issue,”

The decision to revoke Article 370 was taken on August 5, 2019, by the Narendra Modi-led BJP government in a bid to integrate Jammu and Kashmir with India.

Digvijaya was responding to Shahzeb Jillani, a Pakistan-based journalist currently residing in Germany who had that he was shocked at the changing landscape of politics and Indian society under the Modi regime. He alleged that post revocation of Article 370, the relationship between India and Pakistan have strained. He also added that in the last couple of months the media is speaking up against the Narendra Modi government.

https://www.news18.com/news/politics/congress-veteran-digvijay-singh-hits-at-relooking-on-decision-to-revoke-article-370-3838085.html
 
Former J&K CM Farooq Abdullah Welcomes Congress Top Leader Digvijay Singh's Comment on Revoking Art 370 in Kashmir.

:))
 
Digvijay singh is actually making sure Congress never comes back to power with his statements.

:salute
 
It was an contract which India Violated Now India is officially occupying our land by illegal manners

So in your opinion was India's behavior prior to the abrogation of Article 370 legal?
 
I need some time to digest this concept of "forcefully legal" :))

Looking forward to watching the migration shift from mainland India to Kashmir, should happen in big numbers hopefully in the next 10-15 years or so.
 
"The RSS and the BJP does not agree with the ideology of unity in diversity. The Centre simple implemented the idea of the RSS. The bifurcation of Kashmir amounts to destroying the secularism of the nation"

Read more at: https://english.mathrubhumi.com/new...ntre-over-abrogation-of-article-370-1.4019190

I know us Malayalees are the kings of Pseudo Secularism but this has to be a new low level of dumb, so article 370 is taken out so Indians from all of India will have more rights in Kashmir unlike the previous highly discriminatory setup and these Kerala Clowns are crying that secularism in this instance is being taken out ? :)) What the ????????????????????????
 
"The RSS and the BJP does not agree with the ideology of unity in diversity. The Centre simple implemented the idea of the RSS. The bifurcation of Kashmir amounts to destroying the secularism of the nation"

Read more at: https://english.mathrubhumi.com/new...ntre-over-abrogation-of-article-370-1.4019190

I know us Malayalees are the kings of Pseudo Secularism but this has to be a new low level of dumb, so article 370 is taken out so Indians from all of India will have more rights in Kashmir unlike the previous highly discriminatory setup and these Kerala Clowns are crying that secularism in this instance is being taken out ? :)) What the ????????????????????????

They have to do the bidding of their masters if they want to keep getting their pocket money.
 
This was quite an interesting event

When Article 370 was scrapped, alot of people thought that this was a loss for the Pakistani cause of Kashmir. But looking back today, it was the best decision that was taken by the BJP.

BJP did an own goal that day when they did this. The Kashmir dispute took a great halt when in the Shimla Agreement it was decided that it would be solved bilaterally and no one could take any unilateral decision. Whenever we tried to do talks with India they said they dont want to discuss. Infact, UN removed Kashmir from its agenda after because of the Shimla agreement.

The day when BJP came with a majority govt and was able to make an amendment in this, the whole Kashmir issue was no longer a bilateral, as India decided to make a unilateral move, thus it was a violation of the shimla agreement which is now become void.

Ever since then, we have been taking the cause of kashmir to UN and even getting third countries involved, as Modi had made the shimla agreement void.

Now BJP is on the backfoot.

They have radicalized their whole nation and now have a poor portrayal internationally with the cow slaughters and love jihad killings. Plus, foreign countries are pressurizing them to talk with Pakistan which Pakistan is not doing.

They cannot bring back these articles because their election campaign was done on this basis and if they do bring them that would be the political suicide of BJP.

What's even more interesting is that the Kashmir issue has got more lime light in the last 2-3 years than ever before. Imran Khan has really played his cards well.

Now what we could hope is that the radicalized govt stays in power in India and win the elections in India. This is what Imran Khan would want aswell. Till BJP is there and they act jungli, Pakistan could get a mediator involved through UN. We have 7-8 years left. By the time Congress comes into power than they could bring back the article 370 back and lead us back to Shimla Agreement which is very problematic issue with regards to Kashmir.

If the Kashmir plebiscite is to happen between both countries it could very much happen in these 7-8 years
 
This was quite an interesting event

When Article 370 was scrapped, alot of people thought that this was a loss for the Pakistani cause of Kashmir. But looking back today, it was the best decision that was taken by the BJP.

BJP did an own goal that day when they did this. The Kashmir dispute took a great halt when in the Shimla Agreement it was decided that it would be solved bilaterally and no one could take any unilateral decision. Whenever we tried to do talks with India they said they dont want to discuss. Infact, UN removed Kashmir from its agenda after because of the Shimla agreement.

The day when BJP came with a majority govt and was able to make an amendment in this, the whole Kashmir issue was no longer a bilateral, as India decided to make a unilateral move, thus it was a violation of the shimla agreement which is now become void.

Ever since then, we have been taking the cause of kashmir to UN and even getting third countries involved, as Modi had made the shimla agreement void.

Now BJP is on the backfoot.

They have radicalized their whole nation and now have a poor portrayal internationally with the cow slaughters and love jihad killings. Plus, foreign countries are pressurizing them to talk with Pakistan which Pakistan is not doing.

They cannot bring back these articles because their election campaign was done on this basis and if they do bring them that would be the political suicide of BJP.

What's even more interesting is that the Kashmir issue has got more lime light in the last 2-3 years than ever before. Imran Khan has really played his cards well.

Now what we could hope is that the radicalized govt stays in power in India and win the elections in India. This is what Imran Khan would want aswell. Till BJP is there and they act jungli, Pakistan could get a mediator involved through UN. We have 7-8 years left. By the time Congress comes into power than they could bring back the article 370 back and lead us back to Shimla Agreement which is very problematic issue with regards to Kashmir.

If the Kashmir plebiscite is to happen between both countries it could very much happen in these 7-8 years

As they say "whatever floats your boat" :D
 
As they say "whatever floats your boat" :D
Please do bother to read the sinla agreement and how india would abide by it and didnt allow any discussions on jt.

Since these articles got scrapped, india coudnt be able to say to pakistan its a bilalteral issue or that we should abide by simla agreement.

India never wanted limelight on kashmir, pakistan has able to get the limelight on it since than....
 
Please do bother to read the sinla agreement and how india would abide by it and didnt allow any discussions on jt.

Since these articles got scrapped, india coudnt be able to say to pakistan its a bilalteral issue or that we should abide by simla agreement.

India never wanted limelight on kashmir, pakistan has able to get the limelight on it since than....

Limelight? Like what?
 
Limelight? Like what?

Pakistan has been able to bring the kashmir issue forward again in UN and india has been underpressure by other countries to talk to pakistan about kashmir. There is a reason why india had to scrap the psa law and replace it with the 7 day law which is still flawed.

Plus the kpl we did, it has started to create ruckus all thanks to modi ji
 
Pakistan has been able to bring the kashmir issue forward again in UN and india has been underpressure by other countries to talk to pakistan about kashmir. There is a reason why india had to scrap the psa law and replace it with the 7 day law which is still flawed.

Plus the kpl we did, it has started to create ruckus all thanks to modi ji

For the long term integration of Kashmir with the rest of India required 370 to be scrapped.

Kashmir may have got a bit more attention but obviously the Western nations which are India’s major trading partners will not place economic sanctions. As such after the Afghanistan fiasco there is a lot of anger towards Pakistan. So there is no meaningful pressure on India to do anything different on Kashmir.
 
With or without Article 370, Kashmir is forever Indian’s. It is a dead horse that our military flogs to stay relevant and keep a stranglehold on the country.

Pakistan is already overpopulated; imagine 12-13 million more citizens. This will further suffocate our already cash-strapped and ailing economy and worsen our economic crises.
 
For the long term integration of Kashmir with the rest of India required 370 to be scrapped.

Kashmir may have got a bit more attention but obviously the Western nations which are India’s major trading partners will not place economic sanctions. As such after the Afghanistan fiasco there is a lot of anger towards Pakistan. So there is no meaningful pressure on India to do anything different on Kashmir.

India were protected with the shimla agreement. Once they made the move on the articles they were happy intially but bjp has realized that they made a huge mistake.

After scrapping article 370 kashmir has been talked at un.

West may not place sanctions, but there is a possibility that UN will bring in a nee mediator again to solve this.
 
With or without Article 370, Kashmir is forever Indian’s. It is a dead horse that our military flogs to stay relevant and keep a stranglehold on the country.

Pakistan is already overpopulated; imagine 12-13 million more citizens. This will further suffocate our already cash-strapped and ailing economy and worsen our economic crises.

Naa.
Kashmir isnt indias yet, nor it is a dead horse. It becomes a dead horse if we take any steps on making gilgat baltistan a province.

If pakistan gets kashmir, we are not even taking ladkh. Ladkh will be gifted to China. Issue is jammu and kashmir valley.
From jammu we need to get full control of siachen glacier.

Yes the majority hindu population of jammu might be an issue.
 
Naa.
Kashmir isnt indias yet, nor it is a dead horse. It becomes a dead horse if we take any steps on making gilgat baltistan a province.

If pakistan gets kashmir, we are not even taking ladkh. Ladkh will be gifted to China. Issue is jammu and kashmir valley.
From jammu we need to get full control of siachen glacier.

Yes the majority hindu population of jammu might be an issue.
Keep going - go all the way down to Kanyakumari. Make sure to have cleaning tissues handy for your eyes when you wake up.
 
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India were protected with the shimla agreement. Once they made the move on the articles they were happy intially but bjp has realized that they made a huge mistake.

After scrapping article 370 kashmir has been talked at un.

West may not place sanctions, but there is a possibility that UN will bring in a nee mediator again to solve this.

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Some of the major outcomes of the Simla Agreement are:
Both countries will "settle their differences by peaceful means through bilateral negotiations".[5][3][8] India has, many a times, maintained that Kashmir dispute is a bilateral issue and must be settled through bilateral negotiations as per Simla Agreement, 1972 and thus, had denied any third party intervention even that of United Nations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simla_Agreement

Pakistan has pretty much abandoned the Shimla Agreement.

2. The UN can exert zero pressure on India unless there is a new Security Council resolution. General Council resolutions are ignored, just like Israel ignores them. Other than China, the remaining permanent 4 members of the Security Council are Indian allies and will veto any anti-India resolution.
 
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Pakistan has pretty much abandoned the Shimla Agreement.

2. The UN can exert zero pressure on India unless there is a new Security Council resolution. General Council resolutions are ignored, just like Israel ignores them. Other than China, the remaining permanent 4 members of the Security Council are Indian allies and will veto any anti-India resolution.

You are wrong there. Pakistan has never abandoned shimla agreement. India abandoned it by scrapping the articles, pakistan has never officially abandoned it.

India is under pressure now for what it has done and bjp would either revert the articles back or keep on facing international pressure
 
You are wrong there. Pakistan has never abandoned shimla agreement. India abandoned it by scrapping the articles, pakistan has never officially abandoned it.

First of all Pakistan never recognized Article 370 in the first place to my knowledge, so it doesn't matter. Correct me if I am wrong.

India is under pressure now for what it has done and bjp would either revert the articles back or keep on facing international pressure

See when I read statements like this, I realize why Pakistan is in the current mess they are in. A lot of you Pakistanis are living in your own little world. No one, well of any major significance care about what India does in Kashmir, no matter how much you Pakistanis cry foul, hell in the end Pakistan will be viewed as a nation to be not associated with due to OBL, Nuclear proliferator Qadir Khan, FATF etc. Your country hit the lime light often for all the worst possible reasons.

India is under no pressure to do anything they don't want to do in Kashmir, it is over, Kashmir under Indian control will always be India's..

....Bold..
 
Okay boy's I am throwing a very arrogant challenge to Indian people here. Never mind what Pak can or can not do i guarantee that Kashmir will be free from Indian rule by 2026 If not then I will start supporting the Indian Cricket team from there on. If I am right then Indian's here must start supporting the Pak side too from 2026.

Those on about Kashmir will forever be a part of India let me remind them that they themselves were under foreign rule for centuries. You guy's have only been free since 1947, nothing is "forever" other then Allah Ta'ala!
 
You are wrong there. Pakistan has never abandoned shimla agreement. India abandoned it by scrapping the articles, pakistan has never officially abandoned it.

India is under pressure now for what it has done and bjp would either revert the articles back or keep on facing international pressure

Lets be realistic, had Pakistan agreed to Shimla agreement, Kargil wouldn't have happened in the first place and that too after Lahore yatra.
 
I am not smirking when I say it is sad to see more innocents dying in IoK thanks to Indian policy. So India threatens Pak accusing us of being behind these attacks. Pak replies saying with thousands of your soldiers holding people at gunpoint how can terrorists keep getting through? When you keep killing people in IoK then there will be violent reactions.

India then asks Pak what do you want us to do that will bring peace? Pak answers demanding a plebiscite which India refuses. Pak then asks India that why don't you allow UN observers to prove our allegations wrong? This will continue for up to five years. As the Qur'an says "after hardship there is ease", the Kashmiris will be rewarded by Allah with freedom from India within a few years, inshallah. I have even given the year by which they will be free.

Few days back Gaurav Arya was saying Pak soldiers being killed by the Pak Taliban was there own doing. Same applies to Indian soldiers being murdered in IoK.
 
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Lets be realistic, had Pakistan agreed to Shimla agreement, Kargil wouldn't have happened in the first place and that too after Lahore yatra.

Selective amnesia, delusion, entitlement (by threat) and outrage is a timeless and consistent national problem with our neighbors.

They talk about taking over parts of India and its Hindu population in this thread (delusion) and in another thread (amnesia) express outrage on retaliation - cricket, bollywood, fatf etc. They expect world to bail (entitlements) them out (out of fear of suicidal and mutually destructive threats) on all their mismanagement and misallocations. Cant think of any other similar country. Even North Korea and Iran at least own their actions and expect accordingly.
 
Pakistan has been able to bring the kashmir issue forward again in UN and india has been underpressure by other countries to talk to pakistan about kashmir. There is a reason why india had to scrap the psa law and replace it with the 7 day law which is still flawed.

Plus the kpl we did, it has started to create ruckus all thanks to modi ji

Has UNGA or UNSC formally discussed Kashmir in last few years?

Which countries have pressurized India to talk to Pakistan?

Who told you that the Public Security Act has been scrapped?

KPL? You mean the league where most of the foreigners except Gibbs pulled out?

Pakistan doesn't have the military, economic or diplomatic means to put pressure on India with respect to Kashmir.
 
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