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Shadab Khan vs Mehidy Hasan Miraz

Quality of the opposition need to be considered when we are rating a spinner. Anyone can pick bunch of wickets in Asian conditions against players who cant play. How they go against better players of spin or outside Asia is important. Its similar to how we judge a batsman how they perform in SENA.

Example - Likes of Shadab Khan and M.Nawaz were looking world beaters against Zimbabwe/WI etc. Then they met India in Asia cup and were treated like club bowlers. Similarly Mehdy Hasan could only pick 2 wickets after bowling 50+ overs against India in the Hyd test in 2017. Likes of Yasir Shah was taken for plenty in WC 2015 vs India.

So yes, we can hype up spinners all we want based on performance against weaker teams. But I refuse to accept a spinner as anything special, unless:

A) He performed against Indian batsman

B) Performed outside Asia.

Hence I rate Saqlain Mushtaq so highly because he did things against India that even Warne/Murali couldnt.
 
Both Miraz and Shadab are very young bowlers. Also they are batsmen too. Can't compare them with a stalwart like Mushtaq
 
Both Miraz and Shadab are very young bowlers. Also they are batsmen too. Can't compare them with a stalwart like Mushtaq

Miraz is good test spinner and can be decent in odi.Shadab is just an odi and t2o bowler.I dont hink so he will become a test bowler.
 
Seriously I stopped watching Pakistan cricket and i have no clue who this Shadab is and not interested in knowing. He ain't no Saqlain mustaq, Mustaq ahmed etc. Mehedi is an under 19 star and now is breaking records. Mehedi anyday of the week over and unknown player

Good too see you come back out of hiding when your team is doing well. Shadab in odis n T20s is class above and on those rank turners even our Shoaib Malik would've looked a superstar.
 
Good too see you come back out of hiding when your team is doing well. Shadab in odis n T20s is class above and on those rank turners even our Shoaib Malik would've looked a superstar.

Yes brother, I am on fire mood :akhtar

Shoaib Malik is a superstar, i thought he was gonna make our fans cry again in the Asia Cup
 
They are both different type of bowlers. Shadab is a fine ODI bowler, he is good in T20 also but I think its a pretty useless format. Shadab is also better batsman than Mehidy who still seems like a tailender to be honest.

Mehidy however is a much better test bowler.
 
Seriously I stopped watching Pakistan cricket and i have no clue who this Shadab is and not interested in knowing. He ain't no Saqlain mustaq, Mustaq ahmed etc. Mehedi is an under 19 star and now is breaking records. Mehedi anyday of the week over and unknown player

Unknown? The guy that has 260,000 more twitter followers than Mehidy is an unknown player? As far as popularity is concerned I promise you more people know Shadab.
 
So who do you guys think the better cricketer now ?
PCT must end Shadab's one miserable career and let him off the hook so he can threaten girls over leaking thier nudes without any outcry

And know I think it's in favour Kehti because he is a proper spinner not bits and pieces
 
Shadab is not a Pinner who can play test cricket.It is very simple.

In t20s and odis hes garrtanted starter
Average in bowling 20 at 7 rpo batting average 13 at 130
In odis in bowling 29 at 5 rpo batting average 25 at 70
In tests in bowling 39 at 3 rpo batting average 34 at 60
Hes all rounder in foreign conditions he can play !
 
Miraz with figures of 4/29 vs WI in 2nd ODI today
 
I would put Shadab ahead overall.

In terms of fielding both are equally good. Bowling wise shadab is better in white ball cricket. Miraz plays tests so there's that

In terms of batting I would say they are two different kind of batsmen. To me miraz is a no 4/5 while shadab is a no 7/8. Shadab has played in his desired position more often and has had success while miraz is starting to mature as a batsman. Miraz needs to bat up the order ultimately. Has been very good with the bat over the last 2 years for a no 8
 
Bangladesh were 69/6 when Mehidy arrived at the crease & he ended up unbeaten on 100 from 83 balls.

Shadab cannot play a knock like this in his wildest dreams.
 
Bangladesh were 69/6 when Mehidy arrived at the crease & he ended up unbeaten on 100 from 83 balls.

Shadab cannot play a knock like this in his wildest dreams.

Shadab has rescued Pakistan in a similar situation Vs WI in an ODI recently. He is far better than Mehdi.
 
Shadab has rescued Pakistan in a similar situation Vs WI in an ODI recently. He is far better than Mehdi.

Similar situation?

Pakistan were 117/5 in 25 overs in a dead rubber game.

Bangladesh were 69/6 in 19 overs with the series alive.

How is it a similar situation? They are poles apart.
 
Mehdi can open the innings too. I think he is under-rated. He shows lot of resolve. May not be technically gifted. He has weaknesses. But he shows a lot of fighting spirit.
 
Mehdi has put Shadab far behind with these 2 performances against a world class team in a condition to their likings . Shadab hasn't played a single match winning innings with both consolidation plus finisher role in his whole career. Miraz now has 2 under his belt.
 
Mehdi has put Shadab far behind with these 2 performances against a world class team in a condition to their likings . Shadab hasn't played a single match winning innings with both consolidation plus finisher role in his whole career. Miraz now has 2 under his belt.

This was India 3rd string attack.
 
Bangladesh were 69/6 when Mehidy arrived at the crease & he ended up unbeaten on 100 from 83 balls.

Shadab cannot play a knock like this in his wildest dreams.

You forgot his knock against west indies i beleive.
 
Mehdi has put Shadab far behind with these 2 performances against a world class team in a condition to their likings . Shadab hasn't played a single match winning innings with both consolidation plus finisher role in his whole career. Miraz now has 2 under his belt.

What about shadab performance in world cup?
 
For me Miraz is still way ahead in tests but in limited overs geame Shadab os better in all departments.
 
Shadab is a bowling all rounder and Mehidy a batting all rounder.

Comparing both would nearly be like comparing a bowler with a batsman, which can be done in terms of impact but not skills.

If you look at their "second skill", Shadab in batting and Mehidy in bowling, I do think Mehidy has the upper hand in ODIs/Tests while Shadab is better as a T20 player.

Shadab is also the better fielder.
 
Similar situation?

Pakistan were 117/5 in 25 overs in a dead rubber game.

Bangladesh were 69/6 in 19 overs with the series alive.

How is it a similar situation? They are poles apart.

Also strenght of opposition. Indian A team won a Test series in Australia - something Pakistan has never managed with Wasim-Waqar even. Windies ODI unit is weaker than Bangladesh C.
 
Yes but an Indian 3rd string attack is still good enough to win a Test series in Australia, fluke or not. Pakistan's ATG attack can't even win a Test match in Australia.

So far india is losing left right and center. They are playing their best possible side heure, Maybe Pandya is the only one rested.
Very courageous from you to Talk about performances after being trashed by Bangladesh.
 
Bangladesh were 69/6 when Mehidy arrived at the crease & he ended up unbeaten on 100 from 83 balls.

Shadab cannot play a knock like this in his wildest dreams.

Indeed Mehidy has played an innings that you can dream off.
He has humiliated the so called best at everything. When the likes of Kohli, Dhawan, Sharma, Iyer are strugling he is making a mockery of Indian team.
The funny part is that India is playing their so called better spinners and all rounders in Washington, Shabaz, Axar but the truth is no one in India is as good as Mehidy. They are a bunch of talentless spinners. No talent in india, that they can even win against Bangladesh.

Bravo to Mehidy for the humiliation served to Mamoon and the team he supports.
 
Indeed Mehidy has played an innings that you can dream off.
He has humiliated the so called best at everything. When the likes of Kohli, Dhawan, Sharma, Iyer are strugling he is making a mockery of Indian team.
The funny part is that India is playing their so called better spinners and all rounders in Washington, Shabaz, Axar but the truth is no one in India is as good as Mehidy. They are a bunch of talentless spinners. No talent in india, that they can even win against Bangladesh.

Bravo to Mehidy for the humiliation served to Mamoon and the team he supports.

LoL hahahahah.Keep em coming.
Wonderful piece this one.
 
What about shadab performance in world cup?

No doubt his performance was good. But he hasn't put up any match winning performance from a loosing position of his team. Mehedy has done it twice and in 2 consecutive games and against a mighty team India. And mehedy is a test cricketer too with some match winning performance with the ball in tests . In this aspect Shadab is way way behind too.
 
This was India 3rd string attack.

Not at all. India has been deliberately playing different squads in different series ,they are following this policy against every team . Chahar, Umran,Axar, Shiraj, Shardul , Washington Shundor all these are part of their rotation squads.
 
No doubt his performance was good. But he hasn't put up any match winning performance from a loosing position of his team. Mehedy has done it twice and in 2 consecutive games and against a mighty team India. And mehedy is a test cricketer too with some match winning performance with the ball in tests . In this aspect Shadab is way way behind too.

What are you talking about.
Shadab is an out and out match winner in white ball cricket and walks into every side. Mehedy had a batting average of 17 before this knock and is a darter with the ball.
 
Shadab is better.

Mehidy flops when it really matters (ICC events).

I would take 1 good performance in a World Cup over 20 good performances in bilateral games.
 
What are you talking about.
Shadab is an out and out match winner in white ball cricket and walks into every side. Mehedy had a batting average of 17 before this knock and is a darter with the ball.

Please give an example of his match winning performance against a top side like India, England, Australia and South Africa.
 
Shadab has a better average with bat and ball in all three formats of the game and better performances in world tournaments the two have played. Terrible comparison
 
Shadab has outperformed every spinner in 2021 and 2022 world cup also he was brilliant asia cup 2022 .Mehidy has long way to go in loi
In test cricket mehidy is ahead in bowling
 
Not at all. India has been deliberately playing different squads in different series ,they are following this policy against every team . Chahar, Umran,Axar, Shiraj, Shardul , Washington Shundor all these are part of their rotation squads.


Its not about rotation its about not having many quality fast bowlers for this format which makes them rotate squads to see which one should be picked for thier full strength squad.
 
Yes but an Indian 3rd string attack is still good enough to win a Test series in Australia, fluke or not. Pakistan's ATG attack can't even win a Test match in Australia.

Your talking about two separate formats come with a better comparison.
 
I am not sure how Shadab started his career. But Mehdi started as an all rounder in his career. He didn't evolve all of a sudden.
 
I guess Miraz can play purely as a batter. I don't think he is that great as a LOI bowler.

However, if I want to get an all-rounder, I would pick Shadab because leg-spin is very useful in LOI.
 
I guess Miraz can play purely as a batter. I don't think he is that great as a LOI bowler.

However, if I want to get an all-rounder, I would pick Shadab because leg-spin is very useful in LOI.
Mehidy is top 10 ODI bowler and top 5 ODI all rounder man. He doesn't seem to carry the minnow mentality like most of the BD players.
 
Mehidy is top 10 ODI bowler and top 5 ODI all rounder man. He doesn't seem to carry the minnow mentality like most of the BD players.

I think Mehidy isn't even top BD LOI spinner. I would say Taijul and Nasum are better than him (bowling only).

I don't know why Taijul doesn't get chance.

Miraz should replace Shakib once he retires (batting all-rounder).
 
Please give an example of his match winning performance against a top side like India, England, Australia and South Africa.

His innings against WI was a match saving perfromance, His innings aginst SA in world cup was mtach wining perfromance , His bowing is far far better in LOI than Mehdy. His batting has been way better , I still remmebr his Six against Srilanka in 2018 when he won it for us, his six in penultimate over again Bangladesh in recent tour, Vome on he has many.
 
shadab with the bast has many key perfromances in LOI and i am sure he can do better in tests in asia , If he plays on rank turners like Mehdy plays most of the times. Shadab as a bolwer in LOI is no comparison atall he wins it .
 
Mehidy Hasan Miraz got to his 50 in a quick time. Took just 58 balls for his debut 50 on the grandest stage of the World Cup. EXcellent knock from this young lad.
 
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