What's new

Shahid Afridi sternly against recalling Salman Butt

Abdullah719

T20I Captain
Joined
Apr 16, 2013
Runs
44,825
Former Pakistan captain Shahid Afridi has sternly stated that the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) should make an example and not make the mistake of recalling tainted opener Salman Butt.

Butt, whose international ban expired more than a year ago, is in the reckoning to earn a Test recall after 7 years when Pakistan tours the Caribbean for a series comprising of three Tests. Butt has been in good form off late in the domestic circuit, piling up over 700 runs in the first class tournament.

Afridi, while speaking to the press some time ago, was of the view that if Butt was given another chance in the national side, then the PCB would be sending a wrong message to all stakeholders. With a convicted fixer like Butt being recalled, it would just promote other potential match fixers to put the game in constant jeopardy.

“Such measures will keep players from acting irresponsibly in the future,” Afridi said.”My stance has been simple from day one. Had we set this example in the past, incidents like the recent spot-fixing scandal would never have emerged,” he said.

The former skipper, though, was beaming with joy regarding talent emerging from the remote towns of Pakistan. “Academies and facilities exist in major cities but in small cities of the province no such facilities exist so all credit to the coach management that they reached out to talented cricketers in rural areas,” Afridi said.

“The Peshawar Zalmis will be participating in the Emirates T20 and the majority of the players on tour are those that emerged from last year’s talent hunt. Who knows, some of these players may become a part of the national squad very soon,” he concluded.

http://sportzwiki.com/cricket/shahid-afridi-sternly-against-recalling-salman-butt/
 
Look Amir, Butt and Asif did the same crime.

Why the hate for Butt and no words at all against the other 2?
 
Look Amir, Butt and Asif did the same crime.

Why the hate for Butt and no words at all against the other 2?

Because Butt was the mastermind and he shamelessly kept lying about the whole situation until he was left with absolutely no options at all.
 
Look Amir, Butt and Asif did the same crime.

Why the hate for Butt and no words at all against the other 2?

Butt was the Captain, Asif and Amir were not. All 3 were wrong but I never want to see him in the team again, moreover, if he wanted he could've stopped the whole thing from happening. The people at PCB should die from shame if they let him play again.
 
Because Butt was the mastermind and he shamelessly kept lying about the whole situation until he was left with absolutely no options at all.

So did Asif and to a certain extent Amir.
 
Butt was the captain and so his crime is the bigger. Sorry Butt is the Hansie Cronje of the 3
 
Sure they did.

But Butt did it for an extremely prolonged period of time and played with the hearts of fans for far too long.

Look I'm not defending Butt at all, but Asif did not admit involvement for a long time. In fact he and Butt dragged this out right to the end.

Amir firstly denied and then when he was talked into confessing he confessed as he was given the chance of returning to domestic cricket earlier than the other 2.
 
If Amir can be forgiven then so can Butt and Asif. It is just a question of if they are anything better then what we currently have.
 
Yet it was Shahid Afridi who recommended that Butt be made the next Test captain after he bottled it after 1 Test.

The narrative is that the biggest reason for Afridi resigning is because he knew something fishy was going on in the team (his words, IIRC).
 
The narrative is that the biggest reason for Afridi resigning is because he knew something fishy was going on in the team (his words, IIRC).

If that's what you want to believe then be my guest.
 
Afridi's words mean nothing. Yes he is not a fixer but is unreliable and always emotional and hence not to be taken seriously.

Good bye and good riddance.
 
The narrative is that the biggest reason for Afridi resigning is because he knew something fishy was going on in the team (his words, IIRC).

Sorry but I don't believe that either.

He played multiple times under Wasim and regularly played with others after the Sydney Test too.

Afridi is not to be taken seriously.
 
Sorry but I don't believe that either.

He played multiple times under Wasim and regularly played with others after the Sydney Test too.

Afridi is not to be taken seriously.

Neither do I. It's been interesting to see Afridi totally distance himself from Butt since the spot-fixing saga.
 
Neither do I. It's been interesting to see Afridi totally distance himself from Butt since the spot-fixing saga.

Yeah its easy to take the moral high ground when one has nothing to go on (lack of performance, fading from the spotlight, age etc.)
 
Look I'm not defending Butt at all, but Asif did not admit involvement for a long time. In fact he and Butt dragged this out right to the end.

Amir firstly denied and then when he was talked into confessing he confessed as he was given the chance of returning to domestic cricket earlier than the other 2.

Yes Asif too denied it for a long time.

However Asif's career is pretty much over tbh, and so Butt's potential comeback is talked about more, hence Afridi offers his opinion on Butt more then Asif or Amir (who by your own admission still confessed early, and so Afridi is fine with him).

Not entirely aware of Afridi's stance re Asif.
 
Look Amir, Butt and Asif did the same crime.

Why the hate for Butt and no words at all against the other 2?

1. He isn't advocating for Asif's return nor suggesting that Amir's return is a good thing.

2. He probably singled out Butt because Amir has already returned and Asif is nowhere near a return whereas Butt is being strongly considered and has a lot of friends in the media putting forth his case.

3. You can't ignore that Butt was the captain while the other two were not. So even if there are no mitigating circumstances, this is a major aggravating circumstance. Jadeja was banned for 5 years but Azharuddin was banned for life probably because he was captain. Similarly Cronje banned for life while others got a more lenient sentence. If anything, Butt had it much easier compared to those two.

4. In 2012 during the T20 World Cup, Butt took the liberty to criticize Afridi during the tournament. He has made various shameless criticisms of Afridi since as well. I say shameless because while Afridi is by no means a saint he is at least not a sell out.

5. Two wrongs don't make a right, just because Amir was allowed back into the national team doesn't mean Butt should be. He is certainly not entitled to a place in the team simply because Amir earned his way back. And this goes back to the fact that Afridi isn't advocating for Asif and Amir while condemning Butt. In fact, he says his stance has been the same since day one.

Afridi isn't a hypocrite nor wrong for stating his opinion on match/spot-fixers. And I honestly can't see why it's being perceived as such. A bit of a petty argument really.
 
Yet it was Shahid Afridi who recommended that Butt be made the next Test captain after he bottled it after 1 Test.

Butt made many comments on afridi on tv in the last few years. We all know afridi is a drama queen and once you go against him this will happen.
 
Look Amir, Butt and Asif did the same crime.

Why the hate for Butt and no words at all against the other 2?

He was the Captain. On field and off field. Without the Captain this deal would not have happened. Butt not only coerced Amir for the crime, he also was telling him not to confess. An early confession by Amir was in Pakistan's interest . 5 years was enough for Amir, for Butt it should have been 10. Which was the original sentence but 5 yrs were suspended.
 
Yet it was Shahid Afridi who recommended that Butt be made the next Test captain after he bottled it after 1 Test.

Having watched and observed Pakistani cricket for the past 30 years, to me Afridi will never be a national hero as portrayed by our media and his huge fans.
Remember how he was exchanging sweets with Miandad and calling him a brother when the later was ready for a court battle and firm on his stance to expose him on match-fixing.

May be Butt knows a thing or two about Afridi's off the field activities and if he makes a comeback he knows very well that after a few years if he performs well the nation will forgive him. It will be the perfect time for Butt to tell his part of the story and may be their will be a mention of Afridi. God knows best.
 
Yes Asif too denied it for a long time.

However Asif's career is pretty much over tbh

So what you are saying is that if a player is young and is career isn't over then they should get different treatment than those aren't young and whose careers are at the latter stages.
 
1. He isn't advocating for Asif's return nor suggesting that Amir's return is a good thing

So why not just say it clearly then that the return of all 3 is bad thing....

Afridi isn't a hypocrite nor wrong for stating his opinion on match/spot-fixers. And I honestly can't see why it's being perceived as such. A bit of a petty argument really.

fixers in the plural, or just Salman Butt.

It makes me somewhat uncomfortable when some of the players are now saying life bans. Where were they when Amir was coming back? Why not call for a life ban then.
 
It makes me somewhat uncomfortable when some of the players are now saying life bans. Where were they when Amir was coming back? Why not call for a life ban then.
If there were to be life bans, or even any bans longer than the 5 year (excluding suspended) bans, then that should have been the punishment handed out at the outset, and not added after the initial 5 years bans have been served in full.

It is not justice to issue a fixed penalty (with conditions attached) when the punishment is handed out, but after the initial fixed penalty has been served in full (including full compliance with all the attached conditions), to then issue a further penalty for the same (original) offence. But then again, we're talking about Pakistan and Pakistanis, where such logic does not apply.
 
butt was the ring leader... he is solely responsible for his part in involving Amir...

For some this part is difficult to understand. I am not saying Amir is totally innocent. He got a heavy punishment for a 17 / 18 year.

You cant compare his case with that of butt. The sky interview with atherton goes far enough to see what role butt played.
 
If Amir can be forgiven then so can Butt and Asif. It is just a question of if they are anything better then what we currently have.

EXACTLY - that's what it boils down to! After all this is Pak where the word integrity does not exist
 
Asif and Amir were adults not children. They knew what they were doing.

Amir was given a sniff by Butt as captain , pictured to him that the corrupt world as very normal and to get away with ease and not getting caught which is not true and amir got strangled in the end...

I agree Asif was black-marked for his serial offences even before the spot-fixing fiasco..

Initially when caught Amir was all laughing along with the captain as like nothing serious was happening.. but soon realized how things were bad, how he was brain-washed into it which made him to become the approver...

Im pretty sure Butt should have convinced Amir to do showing Asif as an example..
 
Back
Top