"Shahid Afridi used to often tell me to convert to Islam": Danish Kaneria

[NishanKonar]

The outrage is in your imagination only.

Dealing with Christian missionaries etc is common for Muslims in the west.

There is nothing wrong with Christian missionaries or Dawah bros or Iskcon. Its their job to proselytize. Also they are not my colleagues or seniors in office. I can politely refuse them without fear of any consequences

But u dont expect ur colleagues or seniors to indulge in such things. There is different power dynamic involved.

 

[Hitman]

Yes to much to expect from a buffoon who once said that women should not play cricket but rather cook biriyani. Also remember the same Shahid Afridi once bragged that he destroyed a tv set bcoz his daughter were watching an Indian tv series where they were showing a Hindu festival !

No wonder Danish Kaneria had a tough time in Pakistan dressing room with such characters around

Yes, I remember all of that. Although it's extremely difficult to remember all the idiotic things he did and has said his entire life.

 

[RexRex]

You don't talk about religion, spirituality with your professional colleagues. That's basic etiquette and decency

Where do you come up with this stuff ? You can talk about anything if they are your friends.

 

[NishanKonar]

Where do you come up with this stuff ? You can talk about anything if they are your friends.

Like I said that's basic etiquettes & decency in civilized society. Don't know about Pakistan

 

[NishanKonar]

You believe he would have bit the ball on live TV if he has any type of basic intellect?

I don't know him personally so cannot comment on his iq level

Point is when u are big celebrity - ur words have consequences. Imagine Virat Kohli saying similar things - that women should cook food only, Hindus should not watch Islamic festivities on tv , tells Siraj to convert to Hinduism - he wud be castigated and rightly so

Remember the outrage when a Pakistani origin cricketer claimed racist abuse at Yorkshire. Nobody blamed that cricketer for raising such issues. Most fans here supported his actions

But when Danish Kaneria calls out such things in Pakistan - he is getting criticized.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Arabs travelling on bus in India.
Insult your religion.
You call cops.
Cops stop the bus.
Kick Arab tourists out.


Seems a far fetched story bro but will take your word for it.

There’s a place called Deoband in India, the intellectual powerhouse of Islamic thought in the subcontinent. It’s a popular destination for Muslims from various nations.

An inter state transport bus service from Dehradun to Delhi, that goes via Deoband, has been in service for decades. I was a regular traveler in that route. It was on one of those buses that this happened; it’s been two decades.

Whether someone believes it or not, well that’s on them.

 

[uppercut]

The outrage is in your imagination only.

Dealing with Christian missionaries etc is common for Muslims in the west.

Absolutely NOT. There is just simply no comparison to the situation in Pakistan at all whatsover. NONE.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Please keep the discussion on topic and refrain from religious debates

 

[DeadlyVenom]

There is nothing wrong with Christian missionaries or Dawah bros or Iskcon. Its their job to proselytize. Also they are not my colleagues or seniors in office. I can politely refuse them without fear of any consequences

But u dont expect ur colleagues or seniors to indulge in such things. There is different power dynamic involved.

Agree about power dynamic. I said the same thing. It would have been a tough situation for Kaneria if it happened like he said.

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

That would have been the end of his career if he did that. You believe he is lying when a Pakistani player (Ahmed Shehzad) dared to warn T. Dilshan of hell fire if he doesn't convert to Islam that too on the ground?

Everyone is aware about Shehzad incident, and Dilshan didn't use it a weapon to gain lost fame. He confronted right there.

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

Quite the opposite. Raising his voice while being part of the system would have been suicidal. Glad he is exposing it all now.

Not sure how is it a smart move? If you value your religion you should speak then and there, rather keeping it hidden till you are one of them. It indicates hypocrisy and nothing else.

 

[Asif321]

Another loud mouth . Fixer and now trying to gain attention . If you were so bothered should have just stopped playing cricket . Today playing a victim card

 

[guard]

U cannot brush away such stuff as " idiotic" in a society where women & minorities have to deal with so much. Last thing u need is ur biggest celebrity saying such stuff on live tv

Of course , women and minorities are well looked after by fellow countrymen in your land, they will step in and stop any injustice, elderly or otherwise and certainly wont record anything

 

[Devadwal]

You're expecting too much.

That too from afridi

 

[Hikaru]

Not sure how is it a smart move? If you value your religion you should speak then and there, rather keeping it hidden till you are one of them. It indicates hypocrisy and nothing else.

It indicates fear, justified fear.

 

[TheSultan]

L

U cannot brush away such stuff as " idiotic" in a society where women & minorities have to deal with so much. Last thing u need is ur biggest celebrity saying such stuff on live tv

Look at how Muslims are treated in India. Have Indians tried to stop this treatment of minorities?

Have you seen how much Indians are getting destroyed on social media over these things.

I don’t like bringing these things up, but if you live in a glass house, don’t be throwing stones

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

It indicates fear, justified fear.

He could have raised his voice, a country with 140 Cr population would have fought for him, just like they do when any minority is lynched to death in their country.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

There is no substance to these claims as he was picked to play for Pakistan despite being a Hindu.

If you are good enough, you are good enough.

Pakistan has issues, but the least of them are being a cricketer and being asked to convert to a different religion. Thats an exaggeration at best and a bit of normal Islamic talk at worst.

Its not like he was thrown out of the team because he refused to convert.

He played till he became ineffective/retired.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Warning:

Please keep the discussion focused on the topic between Shahid Afridi and Danish Kaneria, and refrain from engaging in religious debates

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Yes, I remember all of that. Although it's extremely difficult to remember all the idiotic things he did and has said his entire life.

There's nothing wrong with that. In rich countries I've no problem with women playing sports. But in poor countries it's a terrible waste of resources especially when you also know they are hardly going to even compete with the top teams. Pakistan needs to stop trying to become the the US or the UK. Don't be ashamed of your culture and religion.

 

[TheSultan]

Warning:

Please keep the discussion focused on the topic between Shahid Afridi and Danish Kaneria, and refrain from engaging in religious debates

There is no substance to these claims as he was picked to play for Pakistan despite being a Hindu.

If you are good enough, you are good enough.

Pakistan has issues, but the least of them are being a cricketer and being asked to convert to a different religion. Thats an exaggeration at best and a bit of normal Islamic talk at worst.

Its not like he was thrown out of the team because he refused to convert.

He played till he became ineffective/retired.

100%. This basically should be end of thread.

 

[RexRex]

There's nothing wrong with that. In rich countries I've no problem with women playing sports. But in poor countries it's a terrible waste of resources especially when you also know they are hardly going to even compete with the top teams. Pakistan needs to stop trying to become the the US or the UK. Don't be ashamed of your culture and religion.

That's a poor attitude to have, women's cricket is rolling with money now .. they could make a good living.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Danish Kaneria has become the Adnan Sami of cricket.... just want to get some attention from the neighbors.

 

[charlie007]

There's nothing wrong with that. In rich countries I've no problem with women playing sports. But in poor countries it's a terrible waste of resources especially when you also know they are hardly going to even compete with the top teams. Pakistan needs to stop trying to become the the US or the UK. Don't be ashamed of your culture and religion.

In my view this is a very conceited thought process. If the women don’t play, how will they ever get better? Will YOU be happy with your status quo if we were raised in a temporary shed with no access to facilities or modern offerings that enhance your life? Or would you just be content with laying bricks because some nincompoop told you to sit at home and forget getting better because you’ll never be able to compete with the Westerners?
Women working has nothing to do with competing with other to start with, but becoming the best version of themselves at which point they can introspect and see what they need to do to be competitive with others that are better than them.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

That's a poor attitude to have, women's cricket is rolling with money now .. they could make a good living.

Not really in Pakistan. They're a joke and have no future. We can't afford women's cricket better to use for education or health care.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

No it's not okay to try to ask someone to convert to your religion. Keep your religion to yourself in your private space.

Adding on top of this.. it's not ok to do Dawah in any place.. let alone at place if work.

 

[ghalib kichlu]

Adding on top of this.. it's not ok to do Dawah in any place.. let alone at place if work.

For some reason I doubt ahmed shahzad has become an alim yet or even a daee
Afridi on the other hand has even made shaheens have a beard

 

[sweep_shot]

Nothing wrong with preaching provided it is not forceful or aggressive.

It is possible Danish is blowing this out of proportion deliberately (to get traffic on his YouTube channel).

 

[Poseidon]

need to cancel his pasport .

 

[Bhaijaan]

need to cancel his pasport .

For what?