Shakib Al Hasan to have surgery before Asia Cup [Update Post #122]

[Abdullah719]

Bangladesh all-rounder Shakib Al Hasan has asked for a six-month break from Test cricket, saying that he needs a rest in order to stay fresh in the long run.

Bangladesh Cricket Board media committee chairman Jalal Yunus informed The Daily Star of this development last night. “We have received a letter from Shakib to the effect that he wants a six-month break from Test cricket with a view to staying fresh for the long term. The board is yet to decide whether to grant the request.”

This development comes with the BCB set to name a 15-man Test squad to tour South Africa today, with the squad scheduled to depart for Johannesburg on September 16. It was learnt that Shakib is unlikely to be a part of the Test squad for the two-Test series.

Shakib -- the world's top-ranked all-rounder in all formats -- was recently made the T20I captain. He also turned in a stellar performance in the first Test against Australia in late August, taking a 10-wicket haul and hitting 84 in the first innings of his 50th Test.

In a career spanning more than a decade, Shakib has played just 51 Test matches while his contemporaries in countries like England and Australia have neared or crossed 100. This points to a wider lack of Tests for Bangladesh as a whole and in that context Shakib's request is a puzzling one. He has after all often spoken of the need for more Tests.

There have been murmurs of discontent within the dressing room, especially among seniors, at some of the decisions of head coach Chandika Hathurusingha. The Sri Lankan coach is part of the selection process and some of the selections -- the axing of senior player Mahmudullah Riyad, the drama surrounding Test specialist Mominul Haque's eleventh-hour inclusion in the squad for the first Test -- in the recently concluded Australia series have been contentious.

This development throws the squad announcement today wide open. Shakib is arguably the side's best player and most importantly lends the team balance -- he is worth his place as a batsman or bowler alone, and with him in the side Bangladesh almost have a 12th member. Therefore, the most significant part of today's squad announcement will surround whether the board will grant Shakib's request.

Apart from the South Africa Tests, Bangladesh are also scheduled to host Sri Lanka for a Test series within the next six months.

http://www.thedailystar.net/sports/bangladesh-cricket/shakib-wants-six-month-test-break-1460332

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

It's his personal decision,should respect it.

On the other hand,it's a great opportunity for BCB to test new players and combinations for the time when senior 4 players would be retired. Try nazmul,saifuddin,saif,mossaddek and others to make another team ready for future. Hope,like shakib,mushy also keep his gloves off for six months. We could try nurul Hasan instead of him.

 

[Executioner]

In before someone accuses Shakib of being a softy. No one in the cricket world ever had to shoulder as much responsibility as Shakib.

A truely genuine allrounder who plays all 3 formats and is a key player with both bat and ball.

However, I think BCB should man up and have him barred from playing BPL and PSL if needed if really wants to "prolong" his career. However difficult to deal with someone like Shakib.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

It's a fair point that lots of people will wilfully ignore.

Tests are much more exhausting than limited overs.

Resting from a 20 overs match won't help you recuperate as much as from a 5 day game.

Additionally, he will miss just a few games, so it's fine. And BD themselves have gained so much from focusing on short-form cricket. I think BCB may grant this, because Shakib has cleaned up his act and performed exceptionally of late.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

As for replacements, they can try Mossadek, who is an excellent batsman and a decent enough bowler.

In the future, Mossadek could be a top-class player.

 

[R0H1T]

In before someone accuses Shakib of being a softy. No one in the cricket world ever had to shoulder as much responsibility as Shakib.

A truely genuine allrounder who plays all 3 formats and is a key player with both bat and ball.

However, I think BCB should man up and have him barred from playing BPL and PSL if needed if really wants to "prolong" his career. However difficult to deal with someone like Shakib.

Why would you want to skip the SA tests, is that what ATG A/R of the past have done? As for workload, Jadeja & Ashwin have both bowled well over 500 overs in the last year, played 19 tests (since WI tour) & have played IPL (Jadeja) or county (Ashwin) cricket & CT plus JAMODI series. This workload excuse doesn't pass the ** test.

 

[Executioner]

Why would you want to skip the SA tests, is that what ATG A/R of the past have done? As for workload, Jadeja & Ashwin have both bowled well over 500 overs in the last year, played 19 tests (since WI tour) & have played IPL (Jadeja) or county (Ashwin) cricket & CT plus JAMODI series. This workload excuse doesn't pass the ** test.

Neither Jadeja or Ashwin has to bat regularly in the nets nor in real matches.

Shakib has been playing cricket nonstop since 2006 and he barely ever got injured which means he barely got much rest.

You cannot compare the workload of a genuine all-rounder with that of anyone. Shakib is someone who has to bat in the middle order and also come back and bowl his quota of overs in not just one but 3 different formats. So he has to focus on 6 disciplines each of which is vital for his team.

De Villiers felt fatigue from simply batting in tests. Shakib had to bat (averaged same as ABDV in tests for the last few years) and bowl 20-25 overs per innings. Bowl 10 overs in ODIs and bat at no. 5.

Only player comparable to Shakib in terms of workload is Stokes. And even then Stokes has been an international regular for 2.5 years and not 11 years

 

[R0H1T]

Neither Jadeja or Ashwin has to bat regularly in the nets nor in real matches.

Shakib has been playing cricket nonstop since 2006 and he barely ever got injured which means he barely got much rest.

You cannot compare the workload of a genuine all-rounder with that of anyone. Shakib is someone who has to bat in the middle order and also come back and bowl his quota of overs in not just one but 3 different formats. So he has to focus on 6 disciplines each of which is vital for his team.

De Villiers felt fatigue from simply batting in tests. Shakib had to bat (averaged same as ABDV in tests for the last few years) and bowl 20-25 overs per innings. Bowl 10 overs in ODIs and bat at no. 5.

Only player comparable to Shakib in terms of workload is Stokes. And even then Stokes has been an international regular for 2.5 years and not 11 years

How much time has he spent on the crease in the past 12 months as compared to these 2, you know the answer!

Yet he hasn;t even played 100 tests, you make it sound as if he's playing 12 test & 50 LO games a year?

Your genuine A/R has had 4 tests, at home, which ended inside 4 days. How many days has he spent on the cricket field, domestic or intl, I'm sure you know the answer to that as well.

ABDV is a case that's entirely different, how about you compare him to Stokes, Moen, Ashwin & Jadeja?

You do realize that Ashwin & Jadeja have bowled close to 1500 overs between them, if not more, yet you claim that these 2 have had more of a workload?

 

[ipl_fan]

This will be the norm in the very near future as well. Top class players will start dictating when and where they will play friendly internationals ie; bi-laterals which have no bigger consequence. That way they can prolong their career for a significant amount of time and in turn prolong their T20 career a bit more. Say 2 years or so.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

It's already becoming the norm, and boards can't really say no nowadays.

Even in the NOC regime, a player can just retire from Tests and nothing the board can do.

And no board will push NOC too far, because they know it's an illegal restraint of trade that will be struck down the moment some player challenges it in Court or CAS.

Two years ago people on this forum used to keep saying 'every player considers Tests the most important' and I would tell them they are wrong, it's just that they wouldn't say openly.

Now players are saying openly what they prioritize and in most cases, it isn't Tests.

 

[Proactive_]

Which T20 leagues would he have missed if he played Tests in this time period? That's the real question.

 

[Executioner]

How much time has he spent on the crease in the past 12 months as compared to these 2, you know the answer!

Yet he hasn;t even played 100 tests, you make it sound as if he's playing 12 test & 50 LO games a year?

Your genuine A/R has had 4 tests, at home, which ended inside 4 days. How many days has he spent on the cricket field, domestic or intl, I'm sure you know the answer to that as well.

ABDV is a case that's entirely different, how about you compare him to Stokes, Moen, Ashwin & Jadeja?

You do realize that Ashwin & Jadeja have bowled close to 1500 overs between them, if not more, yet you claim that these 2 have had more of a workload?

I agree if you are discussing bowling workload.

But Shakib had to regularly focus on his batting in the nets and ofcourse, bat for his side too.

Jadeja and Ashwin are bowling allrounders in tests. Ashwin isn't even considered an allround option in limited overs, he is considered a specialist bowler.

It's not only about the amount of effort in the field but off the field. Shakib off field has to give in huge effort to perform with both bat and ball.

 

[kingusama92]

This is his workload for 2017 (up to now).

Shakib's 2017 season

7 Tests, 11 ODIs, 5 T20Is.

Tests: 956 Deliveries Faced, 304 Overs
ODIs: 389 Deliveries Faced, 80 Overs
T20Is: 96 Deliveries Faced, 19 Overs

Total: 1441 Deliveries Faced, 403 Overs Bowled


Here's the closest player to his workload.

Ben Stokes 2017 Season

Total: 1371 Deliveries Faced, 239 Overs Bowled

 

[Gilly]

And no board will push NOC too far, because they know it's an illegal restraint of trade that will be struck down the moment some player challenges it in Court or CAS.
.

Why is this "an illegal restraint of trade", players sign a contract with their boards which effectively makes them an employee.

 

[kingusama92]

Ashwin and Jadeja didn't have high workloads (in comparison to Shakib/Stokes).

I was surprised.

It seems they bowl as much as the other ARs but don't bat as much. It's not close tbh.

 

[R0H1T]

This is his workload for 2017 (up to now).

Shakib's 2017 season

7 Tests, 11 ODIs, 5 T20Is.

Tests: 956 Deliveries Faced, 304 Overs
ODIs: 389 Deliveries Faced, 80 Overs
T20Is: 96 Deliveries Faced, 19 Overs

Total: 1441 Deliveries Faced, 403 Overs Bowled


Here's the closest player to his workload.

Ben Stokes 2017 Season

Total: 1371 Deliveries Faced, 239 Overs Bowled

So you're totally discounting the rest of CY 2017, I wonder why? Also take a look at their workloads from July/Aug 2016 till one year later, I'm sure this selective bias will go away.

 

[kingusama92]

So you're totally discounting the rest of CY 2017, I wonder why? Also take a look their workloads from July/Aug 2016 till one year later, I'm sure this selective bias will go away.

I chose Jan 01, 2017.

It's the most appropriate since all of their match totals aligned. So, you get a better estimate of who does more in the same amount of games.

For Example

Ashwin: 8 Tests
Stokes: 7 Tests
Shakib: 7 Tests

 

[R0H1T]

I chose Jan 01, 2017.

It's the most appropriate since all of their match totals aligned. So, you get a better estimate of who does more in the same amount of games.

For Example

Ashwin: 8 Tests
Stokes: 7 Tests
Shakib: 7 Tests

Why is Jan 01 the magic number?

And picking the same number of tests to equalize, sounds weird?

www.stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...6;spanval2=span;template=results;type=bowling

This doesn't even take into account their IPL or county stints.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

Why is this "an illegal restraint of trade", players sign a contract with their boards which effectively makes them an employee.

That's not the problem at all.

The problem is NOC regime requires board permission even when the player isn't contracted.

 

[AlizeeFan]

Neither Jadeja or Ashwin has to bat regularly in the nets nor in real matches.

Shakib has been playing cricket nonstop since 2006 and he barely ever got injured which means he barely got much rest.

You cannot compare the workload of a genuine all-rounder with that of anyone. Shakib is someone who has to bat in the middle order and also come back and bowl his quota of overs in not just one but 3 different formats. So he has to focus on 6 disciplines each of which is vital for his team.

De Villiers felt fatigue from simply batting in tests. Shakib had to bat (averaged same as ABDV in tests for the last few years) and bowl 20-25 overs per innings. Bowl 10 overs in ODIs and bat at no. 5.

Only player comparable to Shakib in terms of workload is Stokes. And even then Stokes has been an international regular for 2.5 years and not 11 years

In last 1 year:

Ashwin- Balls faced- 1094 Balls bowled-5778 Total: 6872
Shakib - Balls faced - 1929, Balls bowled - 3390 Total: 5319
Moeen Ali- Balls Faced - 1744, Balls bowled - 3421 Total: 5165
Ben Stokes - Balls faced - 2489, Balls bowled - 2463 Total: 4952

 

[ExpressPacer]

Why is Jan 01 the magic number?

And picking the same number of tests to equalize, sounds weird?

www.stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...6;spanval2=span;template=results;type=bowling

This doesn't even take into account their IPL or county stints.

What pathetic logic are you dealing with that is only understandable to you?

Jan 01 is the "magic number" for EVERYONE. In case you didn't know, that's when the new year starts and therefore a statistical analysis can be carried out more comfortable and without any bias.

As for "County stints" which consist of 2 innings of the IPL, let me remind you that Shakib plays in more domestic tournaments than Ashwin or Jadega can even dream of, but we're not taking leagues into consideration in this thread. Your logic is abysmal.

 

[hadi123]

Very surprised by this. South Africa away is Bangladesh's chance to prove themselves that they can do it away from Asia as well. South Africa have been struggling recently and if a few things went Bangladesh's way such as the toss they would have a great chance. If Shakib is missing this series though I feel they have no chance as he is quite literally 2 players in 1. A great batsman capable of scoring match winning centuries and a good bowler capable of bowling match winning spells

 

[shaz619]

It could benefit him given his work load, needs to be available for the tour games though and arrive in SA a month early with other BD members to play whatever cricket they can find and acclimatize with the conditions.

 

[R0H1T]

What pathetic logic are you dealing with that is only understandable to you?

Jan 01 is the "magic number" for EVERYONE. In case you didn't know, that's when the new year starts and therefore a statistical analysis can be carried out more comfortable and without any bias.

As for "County stints" which consist of 2 innings of the IPL, let me remind you that Shakib plays in more domestic tournaments than Ashwin or Jadega can even dream of, but we're not taking leagues into consideration in this thread. Your logic is abysmal.

Oh zip it you & your pathetic logic should be kept where it belongs, don;t try to be too cute since you;re obviously failing.

Yeah & SHakib is running away from the biggest stage where he can prove himself, keep your delusional grandeurs for the kind of audience that it's supposed to meant for!

 

[shaz619]

It could benefit him given his work load, needs to be available for the tour games though and arrive in SA a month early with other BD members to play whatever cricket they can find and acclimatize with the conditions.

Oh my god he is set to miss the SA tour, I thought he was just taking a break prior to it wow, beyond me how anyone can defend that.

 

[sachin100]

Oh zip it you & your pathetic logic should be kept where it belongs, don;t try to be too cute since you;re obviously failing.

Yeah & SHakib is running away from the biggest stage where he can prove himself, keep your delusional grandeurs for the kind of audience that it's supposed to meant for!

O my god. delusions r very strong with that guy.
Yes Jadeja and ashwin can only dream of playing for a minnow team like bangladesh.

 

[shaz619]

The board must accept his request but on the condition that he must play SA, can miss lanka etc if he wants. How can any BD fan be happy with their best player taking a nap for such a high profile tour by all means miss everything else but not SA tour

 

[shaz619]

This is his workload for 2017 (up to now).

Shakib's 2017 season

7 Tests, 11 ODIs, 5 T20Is.

Tests: 956 Deliveries Faced, 304 Overs
ODIs: 389 Deliveries Faced, 80 Overs
T20Is: 96 Deliveries Faced, 19 Overs

Total: 1441 Deliveries Faced, 403 Overs Bowled


Here's the closest player to his workload.

Ben Stokes 2017 Season

Total: 1371 Deliveries Faced, 239 Overs Bowled

And Stokes is a pace bowler as well

 

[ToeCrusher2]

Can't believe bangla posters are actually defending shakib here. Bangla rarely get to play such away tests against a top team and he decides to skip it, absolutely pathetic

 

[sachin100]

Can't believe bangla posters are actually defending shakib here. Bangla rarely get to play such away tests against a top team and he decides to skip it, absolutely pathetic

They r the ones constantly moaning about how bangladesh is not getting away tours and demanding that bangladesh deserves so and so. But when opportunities arise their star player goes into hiding

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The logic for why you can't just take Jan 1 to analyze in THIS case is very simple:

Shakib's spin AR competitors Ashwin and Jaddu bowled a crazy amount of overs in 2016. The effects of that showed on Ashwin who could barely bowl properly in the 2017 Aus series and had to miss out on IPL entire season.

So when looking at workload, we have to consider what they did in a whole cycle as opposed to a specific date.

As Alizeefan posted above, the workload for all ARs have been super high in recent times. Who played more is dependent on the timeline you set but all have played a lot.

I think Shakib is just mentally worn out which is understandable. But as a senior player missing a high profile series, he will cop a lot of criticism. It is the sad reality of life. Too bad for him that he will be heckled for this in a world where some people to this day think SRT intentionally missed the 2013 SA tour to have a farewell home test in Mumbai.

This doesn't make Shakib a coward or anything. He just isn't feeling it. It happens.

 

[pakistani pride]

Oh my god he is set to miss the SA tour, I thought he was just taking a break prior to it wow, beyond me how anyone can defend that.

He needs to defend his stats cause IN SA the SA team will smash him.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Has a 5fer in SA I think.

Shakib ain't running away from a challenge even though it will be perceived in that way.

To be fair, I think he needs to force himself to play SA series cos Bangladesh needs him in that tour. Then take whatever break you want to take.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

Has a 5fer in SA I think.

Shakib ain't running away from a challenge even though it will be perceived in that way.

To be fair, I think he needs to force himself to play SA series cos Bangladesh needs him in that tour. Then take whatever break you want to take.

They are massive favourites to lose that, with or without Shakib and it's far more important that he's fit for limited overs, and from his personal perspective playing the T20 leagues.

 

[shaz619]

Wow, @ BD fans you deserve all the labels folk give you when you would resort to defend this move if it's indeed true. I personally do not have much interest in the series in SA now, was looking forward to seeing how BD would do there and when your best player takes his ball home he leaves the side handicapped; there is only so much Tamim can do at the top, the bowlers as in Shakib who is basically the entire bengali bowling attack needs to support him to

 

[shaz619]

Not sure why Ashwin and Jadeja come into this, no one gives a damn about them. The fact is Shakib could miss one of Bangladesh's biggest series ever in their history when you look at how they've been improving in recent times and are bit more oiled compared to the teams which toured in 03 and 09

 

[shaz619]

If I was a true BD fan I'd be absolutely disgusted by this news

 

[shaz619]

SHOCKING, is the only way to describe this. Grow a damn spine Shakib, you can miss the Lanka series and then take time off after the SA series. Ben Stokes is a pacer and his work load is not far off Shakib's in the 2017 season.

 

[shaz619]

This is like telling your boss I'd like to take a couple of months off when a promotion is around the corner, like who would do that ? I want all the damn glory, in order to be considered great you need to rise up ! Imran Khan played the 92 WC with a damn injury past his prime, he didn't need to and had achieved a fair amount already but when your country needs you, you show up ! in this instance Shakib has the chance to advocate his greatness when there's so much doubt already despite being a quality A/R but this doesn't help him, have lost respect for Shakib. I use to call him the champ! but if he's going to quit like this then he's nothing more then a chump!

 

[Executioner]

The reason why we Bangladeshis are defending his decision is simple. We have seen Shakib go in day in day out, work hard in the nets, run around in the field and play to his potential. It's easy to criticize Shakib if you don't follow him religiously.

He is arguably one of the fittest cricketers in modern time with almost minimal injuries. The last time he had injury I believe was back in 2009 where he suffered groin injury. But otherwise he has been a regular feature. He was our premier batsman and bowler. Let me show you his schedule from last September -
Afghanistan ODIs
England series
BPL
NZ tour
PSL
India test
SL series
IPL (didn't play but still was in the nets and had to travel)
Tri series in Ireland
CT
CPL
Australia series
Only after recent Australia series he felt fatigue. Infact he is suffering from fever if I am not wrong. There is a massive difference between a genuine allrounder and every other cricketer. Genuine allrounders have tremendous workload. There arent too many genuine allrounders in cricket history who are quite good with both disciplines and let alone playing in modern era with greater workload.


Do we fans want him to participate in the series? Yes we do. We don't stand a chance without him. But we have seen him burn out real bad and sometimes you do need rest.

And for the record shakib averages 20 with the ball in SA and has back to back five wicket hauls in SA. I am not sure of any modern day spinner achieving that. He doesn't have to prove much. He has good record in NZ, England WI, SA combined. Didn't play in Australia ever.

 

[Executioner]

I'm personally not happy but that doesn't mean we should not respect the decision of someone who looked burned out.

I saw him in the second test against Australia, he looked burned out and didn't perform too well.

 

[Executioner]

Why does he need to be considered a legend from armchair experts.

He has his name in the record books, in Co stats, in ICC rankings.

 

[shaz619]

Hassan averages 20 in SA over a tiny sample of just 2 Tests.

Besides that, he averages 35 in England with the ball; that would be fine, but he averages 13 with the bat in the country.

In NZ he averages 40 with the ball, pretty awful but that is somewhat acceptable to an extent as he averages 77 with the bat.

In SA he now had the opportunity to cement his prowess beyond that tiny 2 match sample but QUIT on his stool, this is why he will never be considered great globally. His fans in BD can worship him all they like. But timid behaviour is not how great players behave, Stokes has had to endure a similar schedule and he is a pace bowler.

Shakib is spineless, have lost respect for him.

 

[ToeCrusher2]

Why does he need to be considered a legend from armchair experts.

He has his name in the record books, in Co stats, in ICC rankings.

The record books will also remember how he chickened out of the south african tour

 

[shaz619]

Why does he need to be considered a legend from armchair experts.

He has his name in the record books, in Co stats, in ICC rankings.

When it's all said and done you're telling me history will remember Shakib ? it looks down on you as it is given the minnow status which is why being spineless is not acceptable and every opportunity which is given must be grabbed with both hands to prove yourself.

Shakib isn't even on the level of Kallis and even he doesn't get as much credit, your'e telling me anyone will remember a Bangladesh cricketer as a legend? highly unlikely.

 

[shaz619]

If a big deal is being made out of Shakib's 20 averages in SA over 2 tests, we should also not conveniently overlook the fact that he averages 77 in India over a similar sample

Absolutely shameless stuff, I thought this guy had the knack to advocate his aura as a great but he has proved me wrong once again; my instincts were right about Shakib. Thoroughly disappointed about this and I find it shocking that Bengali's of all people are going to defend his lack of spine but then again am not too surprised

If he legitimately wants or needs a break, no problem.

If he's gonna continue flying the globe and playing in mercenary leagues though thats a whole other issue and would reflect poorly.

This is like you sending a 2nd XI Irish team to play your debut Test series because they all need a break given the work load etc and having a poor fever No Irishman would ever chicken out if it came to an opportunity to play against SA away, the lads have something called a fighting spirit.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

If he legitimately wants or needs a break, no problem.

If he's gonna continue flying the globe and playing in mercenary leagues though thats a whole other issue and would reflect poorly.

 

[Executioner]

The record books will also remember how he chickened out of the south african tour

Yeah if that helps you sleep at night

You're not a student of the game, but a biased / narrow minded / sensitive Bengali fan. When it's all said and done you're telling me history will remember Shakib ? it looks down on you as it is given the minnow status which is why being spineless is not acceptable and every opportunity which is given must be grabbed with both hands to prove yourself.

Shakib isn't even on the level of Kallis and even he doesn't get as much credit, your'e telling me anyone will remember a Bangladesh cricketer as a legend? highly unlikely.

No shakib isn't the level of ATG allrounder like Kallis. Kallis is a tier 1 ATG batsman himself who deserves to be in the same level as Ponting Lara Tendulkar Sangakkara.

And why can't a Bangladeshi cricketer be considered a legend if his performance puts him to a good position. You ask cricketers around the world about Shakib and they will tell you how they rate shakib. Many will already label him as a modern day great and perhaps if he continues to perform he could become an ATG like Botham

Also you claim that I am a sensitive biased poster. That's your opinion of me. You are entitled to your opinion. But I would like for you to point out me being sensitive. Do you see me complaining when people say Bangladesh isn't a big team, or BD still has much to achieve in tests, or if Tamim isn't world class or whether our pace attack in tests is poor. Just examples.

 

[Executioner]

Might I further add that shakib has been suffering from.fever and has slight niggles. Do you really want to push him to play tests?

 

[UN talkz]

Guys please stay on topic and stop using offensive words

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Oh wow, even the bangladeshi spinners are made out of glass....

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Might I further add that shakib has been suffering from.fever and has slight niggles. Do you really want to push him to play tests?

Awww poor lil shakib.... not feeling well, can't come out to play!

 

[RehanG]

maybe he doesn't want his 'stats' and 'avg' to go down..?

 

[Amir]

Given the heavy test schedule Bangladesh has year after year, this decision makes sense.

 

[R0H1T]

This is like telling your boss I'd like to take a couple of months off when a promotion is around the corner, like who would do that ? I want all the damn glory, in order to be considered great you need to rise up ! Imran Khan played the 92 WC with a damn injury past his prime, he didn't need to and had achieved a fair amount already but when your country needs you, you show up ! in this instance Shakib has the chance to advocate his greatness when there's so much doubt already despite being a quality A/R but this doesn't help him, have lost respect for Shakib. I use to call him the champ! but if he's going to quit like this then he's nothing more then a chump!

Wow you've gone completely Robert De Niro ala Taxi Driver.

 

[Dios]

People called AB a coward for skipping the England tour and the same courtesy should be extended to Shakib as well. Hilarious the excuses his ******* are coming up with to justify his behaviour.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

He needs to defend his stats cause IN SA the SA team will smash him.

He has 5fer in SA

 

[Dios]

Given the heavy test schedule Bangladesh has year after year, this decision makes sense.

Ouch.

Harsh but true.

Nonsensical stuff this from Shakib. How about you a skip a season of IPL or CPL instead? He has long been suspected of being a money-hungry individual but now it has been confirmed.

 

[Amir]

Ouch.

Harsh but true.

Nonsensical stuff this from Shakib. How about you a skip a season of IPL or CPL instead? He has long been suspected of being a money-hungry individual but now it has been confirmed.

Player needs to make money. I think him missing out on IPL is unfair. But he doesn't need to play CPL and PSL (though I like him in PSL because he is a quality player).

But reality is BD for years were a test joke. Even now they still can't get more than a 2-test series. They have three test wins in the past year. They are starting to develop credibility, they could now push for a 3-test series (I think they only played a handful and that too vs Pak and SL). Key players like him resting does not help their brand and wi ll only further push teams to play 2-test against them if there is a risk that their one marketable star might sit out.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Why everyone is getting a problem where we Bangladeshis have no problem of his quit? In fact it is our opportunity to see if we can manage any series without our senior players by trying new players and combinations. We need to look future when these 4 seniors will retire and we need to prepare a team before them. We bd fans are eager to see what our youngsters can do without the seniors. We would be very happy if mushy also give up his gloves or retire for six months like shakib. We could try nurul then. We bangladeshis are ok with shakib's decision then we all of you are so bothered??

 

[Kashmirilion]

Forgive me if I am wrong but don't the bangla fans always moan how they dont get to play enough test cricket? You moan how you deserve more tests but your best player wants a break how many others would follow suit if you was playing more cricket? I am big fan of shakib don't get me wrong but 2 tests wouldn't have killed him such a important series for bangla to go abroad and learn from playing in tough conditions you need your best players, what's point asking for more cricket?? Why not cut down on the tamasha leagues you play which are hardly more important than representing your country. Very disappointed with shakib being a huge fan of his. It's gonna be absolute mauling in Africa.

 

[R0H1T]

Why everyone is getting a problem where we Bangladeshis have no problem of his quit? In fact it is our opportunity to see if we can manage any series without our senior players by trying new players and combinations. We need to look future when these 4 seniors will retire and we need to prepare a team before them. We bd fans are eager to see what our youngsters can do without the seniors. We would be very happy if mushy also give up his gloves or retire for six months like shakib. We could try nurul then. We bangladeshis are ok with shakib's decision then we all of you are so bothered??

You will be steamrolled in SA that's why, & stop saying we deserve more games or even tests! With this attitude you don;t deserve anything!

Yeah that's your problem your attitude, I remarked on this on the last day of second test. No great player has ever skipped a tough tour due to fatigue, let alone an ATG as many of you make him out to be!

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

You will be steamrolled in SA that's why, & stop saying we deserve more games or even tests! With this attitude you don;t deserve anything!

Yeah that's your problem your attitude, I remarked on this on the last day of second test. No great player has ever skipped a tough tour due to fatigue, let alone an ATG as many of you make him out to be!

No reasonable bd fans would ever say that we deserve more away test series yet.
We still don't deserve more away test but yes,we deserve more home test series as we are just coming out of age recently at home.

 

[R0H1T]

No reasonable bd fans would ever say that we deserve more away test series yet.
We still don't deserve more away test but yes,we deserve more home test series as we are just coming out of age recently at home.

Why, just so that you can climb up the test rankings ladder? Why would any of SA, Aus, NZ, Eng want to risk a series loss & slipping in the rankings table by playing 3 tests in Bangladesh & then host you just for 2 tests?

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Why, just so that you can climb up the test rankings ladder? Why would any of SA, Aus, NZ, Eng want to risk a series loss & slipping in the rankings table by playing 3 tests in Bangladesh & then host you just for 2 tests?

That's your strategy,not any others.

 

[R0H1T]

That's your strategy,not any others.

We play equal number of tests home & away, sometimes more away than at home.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Bangladesh all-rounder Shakib granted leave for two Tests

Bangladesh Cricket Board or BCB's Operations Committee chief Akram Khan confirmed that he has given 2 test leave and said that Shakib can play the second Test, which starts on Oct 6, if he wants.

Earlier on Monday, Khan said that they have received a letter from Shakib seeking a six-month break from Tests.

The BCB is expected to announce the squad for the South Africa series in the afternoon.
Shakib’s request has surprised many. The cricketer is currently in the middle of a career-best run in Test cricket. He has scored 665 runs in his last seven Tests, his highest in any calendar year. He has also taken 29 wickets.

Bangladesh is scheduled to play only four Test matches in the coming six months.

http://m.bdnews24.com/en/detail/cricket/1392939

 

[CricketAnalyst]

This is like telling your boss I'd like to take a couple of months off when a promotion is around the corner, like who would do that ? I want all the damn glory, in order to be considered great you need to rise up ! Imran Khan played the 92 WC with a damn injury past his prime, he didn't need to and had achieved a fair amount already but when your country needs you, you show up ! in this instance Shakib has the chance to advocate his greatness when there's so much doubt already despite being a quality A/R but this doesn't help him, have lost respect for Shakib. I use to call him the champ! but if he's going to quit like this then he's nothing more then a chump!

Shakib knows where the wind is blowing between Test Cricket and limited overs cricket.

Nobody will care what happened in some bilateral Test in the future, but if it's the difference between him playing the 2023 WC and winning or not, or being in some enormous leagues in the future, it's very important to put his body first.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

Shakib Hassan who will never be considered a legend after this act of treachery, spineless cricketer.

He is considered a legend.

And you are hardly the arbiter of this matter.

This shows the regressive hateful mindset of the Test Cricket brigade. Good the dominance of Test is being challenged and has now been defeated.

 

[Mainul]

I respect the decision of Shakib.He needs rest and what our selector Akram Khan said that we can't always think about the team,you have to think about the player also.And he also said that he himself as a player knew that if a player is not mentally not fit,he can't give 100 percent on the field.

Shakib is a player who always gives his all with the bat and ball on the field for Bangladesh.He is a genuine all rounder, performing with the same vigor and strength for the last 11 years.So if he wants rest,he really need that.

It will be beneficial for Bangladesh later on though it is huge loss for the test series.We shall get a fresh Shakib against Srilanka and also in ODIs against South Africa.

It is as always clear that few recognized posters are bullying Shakib we know why. It's better not to argue with them as it's only wastage of time.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

Don't support this decision, this is one the toughest tours in recent times for Bangladesh and he is one of their best players.

I have a feeling we will be seeing a lot more of this in the future from other players. Sad reality.

 

[Executioner]

Why everyone is getting a problem where we Bangladeshis have no problem of his quit? In fact it is our opportunity to see if we can manage any series without our senior players by trying new players and combinations. We need to look future when these 4 seniors will retire and we need to prepare a team before them. We bd fans are eager to see what our youngsters can do without the seniors. We would be very happy if mushy also give up his gloves or retire for six months like shakib. We could try nurul then. We bangladeshis are ok with shakib's decision then we all of you are so bothered??

I respect the decision of Shakib.He needs rest and what our selector Akram Khan said that we can't always think about the team,you have to think about the player also.And he also said that he himself as a player knew that if a player is not mentally not fit,he can't give 100 percent on the field.

Shakib is a player who always gives his all with the bat and ball on the field for Bangladesh.He is a genuine all rounder, performing with the same vigor and strength for the last 11 years.So if he wants rest,he really need that.

It will be beneficial for Bangladesh later on though it is huge loss for the test series.We shall get a fresh Shakib against Srilanka and also in ODIs against South Africa.

It is as always clear that few recognized posters are bullying Shakib we know why. It's better not to argue with them as it's only wastage of time.

Looks like my sane Bangladeshi posters are on the same boat.

Yes it's an important test series but if he is not feeling well why force him? Shakib is a smart individual and much more courageous than those who claim Shakib as a coward.

Shakib has come this far because he is smart. He believes too much workload could be a problem for him. Say he plays the two tests but afterwards he gets stress related injury, he will be out of the game for a while. Not to mention he might not even give his level best in the tests either.

 

[MMHS]

He'll play every Test, don't bother.

BCB isn't going to allow him play in PLs & SLs - then take sabbatical from Test team. It's just a little nok-jhok; after all, he is the premium all-rounder of his generation & one eyed runner, among blind langras

On a serious note, he might be rested if the medical staff believes he needs a rest.

Number of ball faced or bowled isn't the fair index to measure the work load of a player - someone has to think it this way -

A player who is certain for 3 formats, bats at 5, averaging over 40 for last 2 years in combined format, bowls highest number of overs for his team and fields at slip/point/gully/extra cover (means he has to focus every ball, it's not like resting at 3rd man or fine leg) - depending on format. Batting time in middle doesn't indicate the mental stress of batting at 5, that too after Soumya, Kayes & Sabbir had done their show!!! While in bowling that guy is used both to contain & strike in every condition - in NZ, he bowled probably 60 overs/Test - most spinners won't do that in a 2 Test series; not to mention that after batting for 217.

Also, posters are not considering another factor - he is part of every team, means he is in game, strategy or practice all year round. A spinner can bowl 400 overs in 3 months, if he is given 2 months break after that, it's manageable. This guy is involved even for a single T20 and he is there for every purpose. No cricketer in contemporary world, takes so much load alone for his team like Shakib.

He deserves a rest, but shouldn't be given - if required, ask him to rest from PLs & SLs, and compensate accordingly.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

He'll play every Test, don't bother.

BCB isn't going to allow him play in PLs & SLs - then take sabbatical from Test team. It's just a little nok-jhok; after all, he is the premium all-rounder of his generation & one eyed runner, among blind langras

On a serious note, he might be rested if the medical staff believes he needs a rest.

Number of ball faced or bowled isn't the fair index to measure the work load of a player - someone has to think it this way -

A player who is certain for 3 formats, bats at 5, averaging over 40 for last 2 years in combined format, bowls highest number of overs for his team and fields at slip/point/gully/extra cover (means he has to focus every ball, it's not like resting at 3rd man or fine leg) - depending on format. Batting time in middle doesn't indicate the mental stress of batting at 5, that too after Soumya, Kayes & Sabbir had done their show!!! While in bowling that guy is used both to contain & strike in every condition - in NZ, he bowled probably 60 overs/Test - most spinners won't do that in a 2 Test series; not to mention that after batting for 217.

Also, posters are not considering another factor - he is part of every team, means he is in game, strategy or practice all year round. A spinner can bowl 400 overs in 3 months, if he is given 2 months break after that, it's manageable. This guy is involved even for a single T20 and he is there for every purpose. No cricketer in contemporary world, takes so much load alone for his team like Shakib.

He deserves a rest, but shouldn't be given - if required, ask him to rest from PLs & SLs, and compensate accordingly.

They already agreed to his request, and quite right.

 

[MMHS]

They already agreed to his request, and quite right.

If it's on medical ground, indeed right. Also, I don't think it's fair to send him for only 1 Test; because that doesn't give any respite. For him, it's a bit unlucky (I take it on medical ground, otherwise they won't have allowed him), because, he could have been the only all-rounder in history with a 5 for & at least a 50 against every (9) teams - his highest against SAF is 47. This one record might not be repeated ever, if he can't do that.

 

[JaDed]

Why everyone is getting a problem where we Bangladeshis have no problem of his quit? In fact it is our opportunity to see if we can manage any series without our senior players by trying new players and combinations. We need to look future when these 4 seniors will retire and we need to prepare a team before them. We bd fans are eager to see what our youngsters can do without the seniors. We would be very happy if mushy also give up his gloves or retire for six months like shakib. We could try nurul then. We bangladeshis are ok with shakib's decision then we all of you are so bothered??

No team tries "new combinations" against Saffers,you play your best team,this is not Zim we are talking about.

 

[shaz619]

He is considered a legend.

And you are hardly the arbiter of this matter.

This shows the regressive hateful mindset of the Test Cricket brigade. Good the dominance of Test is being challenged and has now been defeated.

And what makes you the arbiter of this matter, my foot ? so your modern mentally inept LOI mindset means very little. Globally he is not considered a legend, FACT. He's a bengali legend that's about it

 

[JaDed]

I like Bangla team and have seem them improve steadily,this is very disappointing from a top a player!

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

No team tries "new combinations" against Saffers,you play your best team,this is not Zim we are talking about.

Anyway we are loosing,then why not try new players.

 

[shaz619]

Bangladesh all-rounder Shakib granted leave for two Tests

Bangladesh Cricket Board or BCB's Operations Committee chief Akram Khan confirmed that he has given 2 test leave and said that Shakib can play the second Test, which starts on Oct 6, if he wants.

Earlier on Monday, Khan said that they have received a letter from Shakib seeking a six-month break from Tests.

The BCB is expected to announce the squad for the South Africa series in the afternoon.
Shakib’s request has surprised many. The cricketer is currently in the middle of a career-best run in Test cricket. He has scored 665 runs in his last seven Tests, his highest in any calendar year. He has also taken 29 wickets.

Bangladesh is scheduled to play only four Test matches in the coming six months.

http://m.bdnews24.com/en/detail/cricket/1392939

And yet they are people defending him wanting to avoid this series! if he is medically unfit , injured / seriously ill I get it. But he just wants a rest at the expense of his team being violated and victimised by the south africans in an away series, even if you want to play up the narrative that oh Shakib is a genius in SA conditions got nothing left to prove blah blah.....alrighty then! but what about the TEAM and his COUNTRY ?