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According to reports Shan Masood after not being considered for the Test squad is likely to become the skipper of the A squad.

PCB is likely to include players who have performed well in the recent past in the domestic structure

Players like Umar Amin, Adnan Akmal, Bismillah Khan , Shahzaib Ahmed are some of the names who are likely to be considered

Source: Jang News
 
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On what basis is he getting to captain?This can't be on merit for sure. Ridiculous stuff from PCB as usual. So the media blackmailing did work after all. I really give up on PCB. The worst board out there.
 
Wasn't it announced a few days back that Umar Amin will be the captain?
 
This guy...

If it's true, I've lost all the hope that PCB can be free from nepotism and corruption.
 
What about Hammad Azam, will he be in the squad?

Does Shan Masood have any experience captaining at the domestic level?
 
Preferring personal relations over Pakistani team's betterment and MERIT.

You look like an ideal candidate for a job at PCB.

Shan deserves this on MERIT.

Dropped one test after scoring 70 vs Steyn and co on debut. Brought back whole year later in as a replacement. Awful management.
 
Bhatti , Anwar , Hammad, Sadaf , Imran Khan all should be considered
 
Shan has been dealt with terribly by PCB. He deserves this.

You know who deserves things? Players who work hard but also merit selection.

This isn't the Pakistani Charity Board. If you cannot play cricket well, then you should not play cricket at the international level, or even at the A level. This is the most asinine logic I have ever seen.

Would you give a person with a high-school degree an engineering job, when you have individuals with masters because the high-school degree individual worked hard at McDonalds and "deserves it".

No, you deserve what you can provide.

If you cannot provide, you deserve nothing. Everyone here works to achieve and they only get there with hard work mixed in with their skills.

I want to be a cricketer, but I don't have the skills necessary to do so, so I won't take that spot from a more deserved person. There are plenty of people who have worked as hard, and probably, if not harder than Shan Masood, and yet he "deserves it".

When it comes to playing cricket for Pakistan, the 11 best players we have, deserve it, not some hard worker, because in this world, there are many hard-workers who get no where because individuals who do the job better simply get the spots they want. That is the reality.

This deserving non-sense needs to stop.

Many of us here are professionals and have worked our tails off to be where we are, and obviously in many instances, some people who worked just as hard as us, got ahead of us here or there because they were simply better suited for certain positions and could do a better job than us.

No one is a harder worker than Fawad Alam for example, but if he isn't good enough (I personally think he is, but he actually has produced at the domestic and international level), then it doesn't matter how nice you are or how hard you work. If you are more talented, and produce more than someone else, they won't pick the guy who is less talented and won't produce as much, even with that hard work.

If it doesn't make dollars, then it doesn't make sense. That is the capitalistic mentality.

Shan is not a good player, is a nobody in domestic, and simply has the connections. Lucky for him, nepotism reigns free in our nation, but let us not pretend as though he deserves this on merit.

I don't even like Umar Amin, but he has really turned it on in domestic, and actually has some skill, and at least with him, you could see that there is something that you can build on with his production, with Masood, there is literally nothing, and I am in awe that people support these type of players who have friends and no talent or production. It is disappointing and awful to say the least.
 
You know who deserves things? Players who work hard but also merit selection.

This isn't the Pakistani Charity Board. If you cannot play cricket well, then you should not play cricket at the international level, or even at the A level. This is the most asinine logic I have ever seen.

Would you give a person with a high-school degree an engineering job, when you have individuals with masters because the high-school degree individual worked hard at McDonalds and "deserves it".

No, you deserve what you can provide.

If you cannot provide, you deserve nothing. Everyone here works to achieve and they only get there with hard work mixed in with their skills.

I want to be a cricketer, but I don't have the skills necessary to do so, so I won't take that spot from a more deserved person. There are plenty of people who have worked as hard, and probably, if not harder than Shan Masood, and yet he "deserves it".

When it comes to playing cricket for Pakistan, the 11 best players we have, deserve it, not some hard worker, because in this world, there are many hard-workers who get no where because individuals who do the job better simply get the spots they want. That is the reality.

This deserving non-sense needs to stop.

Many of us here are professionals and have worked our tails off to be where we are, and obviously in many instances, some people who worked just as hard as us, got ahead of us here or there because they were simply better suited for certain positions and could do a better job than us.

No one is a harder worker than Fawad Alam for example, but if he isn't good enough (I personally think he is, but he actually has produced at the domestic and international level), then it doesn't matter how nice you are or how hard you work. If you are more talented, and produce more than someone else, they won't pick the guy who is less talented and won't produce as much, even with that hard work.

If it doesn't make dollars, then it doesn't make sense. That is the capitalistic mentality.

Shan is not a good player, is a nobody in domestic, and simply has the connections. Lucky for him, nepotism reigns free in our nation, but let us not pretend as though he deserves this on merit.

I don't even like Umar Amin, but he has really turned it on in domestic, and actually has some skill, and at least with him, you could see that there is something that you can build on with his production, with Masood, there is literally nothing, and I am in awe that people support these type of players who have friends and no talent or production. It is disappointing and awful to say the least.

Bravo sir.

Just for the record anyone doubting Shan should see his Loughborough stats.. I'd say he's marginally better than myself based on uni records.
 
if anyone Umar Amin should have been leading the team. He has scored lots of runs in the Pentagular cup and SHan couldn't even manage a nice 20 runs. Merit doesn't exist at lower level and we know what happens at the higher level. PCB is run by bunch of clowns.
 
Good step ! Good captain and needs more exposure! Well done to PcB


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How do you guys know that his selection is nepotism?


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Thing is here on PP you criticise EVERY single thing. Nothing will ever be perfect.
 
Shan deserves this on MERIT.

Dropped one test after scoring 70 vs Steyn and co on debut. Brought back whole year later in as a replacement. Awful management.

Let's bring back Manzoor also, then. Scored a big hundred in the same innings. :facepalm:
 
How do you guys know that his selection is nepotism?


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because
a)he averages 30 odd in the fc cricket.
b)a certain media house who is known for their balckmailing agenda was campaigning for him.
c)We have seen at international level how terrible he is.
 
And then how many chances did Manzoor get after?

Compare this with Shehzad.

How did we go to Shehzad?

Shan Masood has absolutely no claim to being anywhere near the intl. team. Or the A team. Or the B team. Or the C team. Shocking cricketer even at domestic level.
 
According to reports Shan Masood after not being considered for the Test squad is likely to become the skipper of the A squad.

PCB is likely to include players who have performed well in the recent past in the domestic structure

Players like Umar Amin, Adnan Akmal, Bismillah Khan , Shahzaib Ahmed are some of the names who are likely to be considered

Source: Jung News

Karamat Ali? Usman Qadir?
 
How did we go to Shehzad?

Shan Masood has absolutely no claim to being anywhere near the intl. team. Or the A team. Or the B team. Or the C team. Shocking cricketer even at domestic level.

lol shocking footwork and very poor technique. You could bet on him getting out in the 2nd-3rd slip.
 
Shan has been dealt with terribly by PCB. He deserves this.
No he does not.I think he was only selected in the first place b/c of his connections.Although i was supporter of Shan intially his performance at test level and his appaling f/c stats has made me change my opinion.I also know that he was never ready for tests in the first place,how i know this is b/c he does his nets at a club my friend went to and Shan struggles against club level spin bowlers over there.
 
The same people who were calling for his head now support him because they know them on a personal level. Unbelievable.
 
He looked a very limited player against NZ. Isn't there better talent available than this? Are we now just trying to fill our side with blockers?
 
He looked a very limited player against NZ. Isn't there better talent available than this? Are we now just trying to fill our side with blockers?

Misbah has left a bad legacy that will haunt us years to come.
 
No the government finance secretary is his uncle

Before he got that position no one even knew who Shan was

lol wow.

Didn't expect this from you bro.

He has been playing U19 cricket for many years. Most educated PAK followers knew of him.

Thing is Misbah, Waqar & Hafeez rate him highly.
 
I hope khurram manzoor is also included in the squad !


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He has talent in terms of occupying the crease. Needs to grow as a batsman to kill the nepotistic stigma around him. You can't feed off 70 against SA in UAE forever, there's gotta be a string of consistent performances everybody can see
 
Lets keep the exact nature of Shan Masood's connections etc off this thread as that gets into personal territory and we wont allow that.
 
Some reports stating Fawad Alam will be captain. Odd.
 
Lets keep the exact nature of Shan Masood's connections etc off this thread as that gets into personal territory and we wont allow that.

How is it not relevant who his uncle is? We tore into farhat without any reserve? Are we not allliwed to join the very clear dots and make the elephant that everyone can see???
 
Karamat Ali? Usman Qadir?

Shahzaib Ahmed is miles ahead of both in his development. Flights the ball much better, has an incredible googly and you'd be glad to know that he can actually bat. He has a much higher ceiling than Karamat and Qadir. Has the potential to be world-class and I actually rate him ahead of Yasir already.
 
How is it not relevant who his uncle is? We tore into farhat without any reserve? Are we not allliwed to join the very clear dots and make the elephant that everyone can see???

Do you know him personally? Have you spoken to Shan about this? PP isnt meant for "local paanwalla" said chat.
 
http://www.pcb.com.pk/board-of-governors.html

Manzoor Masood Khan - Member of PCB Board of Governers - Father of Shan Masood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishaq_Dar

Ishaq Dar - Minister of Finance - Uncle of Shan Masood

For a guy who averages in the low 30's in FC cricket, has an incredibly poor technique and doesn't look to even have the slightest bit of composure and stability at the crease, this connection comment will always come up. Granted he has maintained his fitness, but is that just a smokescreen to what is actually happening behind the scenes? He made a 75 against Steyn and co, but on a dead, flat track in Abu Dhabi, and a lot of his runs came from edges in that game, not to mention that Khurram Manzoor scored a century in that game as well
 
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http://www.pcb.com.pk/board-of-governors.html

Manzoor Masood Khan - Member of PCB Board of Governers - Father of Shan Masood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishaq_Dar

Ishaq Dar - Minister of Finance - Uncle of Shan Masood

For a guy who averages in the low 30's in FC cricket, has an incredibly poor technique and doesn't look to even have the slightest bit of composure and stability at the crease, this connection comment will always come up. Granted he has maintained his fitness, but is that just a smokescreen to what is actually happening behind the scenes? He made a 75 against Steyn and co, but on a dead, flat track in Abu Dhabi, and a lot of his runs came from edges in that game, not to mention that Khurram Manzoor scored a century in that game as well

That's because people cant be bothered to make a cricket argument.

How do we know that the rest of the Pakistan players have not come in due to someone's help? We cant be this naive
 
http://www.pcb.com.pk/board-of-governors.html

Manzoor Masood Khan - Member of PCB Board of Governers - Father of Shan Masood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishaq_Dar

Ishaq Dar - Minister of Finance - Uncle of Shan Masood

For a guy who averages in the low 30's in FC cricket, has an incredibly poor technique and doesn't look to even have the slightest bit of composure and stability at the crease, this connection comment will always come up. Granted he has maintained his fitness, but is that just a smokescreen to what is actually happening behind the scenes? He made a 75 against Steyn and co, but on a dead, flat track in Abu Dhabi, and a lot of his runs came from edges in that game, not to mention that Khurram Manzoor scored a century in that game as well

Just a coincidence. He's a very talented boy..
 
Just a coincidence. He's a very talented boy..

Where is this talent :amin? I haven't seen any talent since his first game, nor have I seen any improvement, so for him to be our third choice opener in test cricket and a Pakistan A captain seems quite fishy.

However I want to see players from Pakistan perform and I don't have anything against Shan Masood, maybe he is working hard and has some 'talent' that the selectors see.

However until he showcases this 'talent' in domestic or international, this question mark will always hang over him.
 
http://www.pcb.com.pk/board-of-governors.html

Manzoor Masood Khan - Member of PCB Board of Governers - Father of Shan Masood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishaq_Dar

Ishaq Dar - Minister of Finance - Uncle of Shan Masood

For a guy who averages in the low 30's in FC cricket, has an incredibly poor technique and doesn't look to even have the slightest bit of composure and stability at the crease, this connection comment will always come up. Granted he has maintained his fitness, but is that just a smokescreen to what is actually happening behind the scenes? He made a 75 against Steyn and co, but on a dead, flat track in Abu Dhabi, and a lot of his runs came from edges in that game, not to mention that Khurram Manzoor scored a century in that game as well

I watched the 1st day of that Test match too and 20 of those runs came form edges.

He is a nothing batsman.

How can you have a 200 million cricketing mad nation and then not even pick a Pakistani born player. Absolutely ridiculous.

They think 1 sifarish or 2 players won't make a difference in the team but it does, difference between winning and losing.
 
Where is this talent :amin? I haven't seen any talent since his first game, nor have I seen any improvement, so for him to be our third choice opener in test cricket and a Pakistan A captain seems quite fishy.

However I want to see players from Pakistan perform and I don't have anything against Shan Masood, maybe he is working hard and has some 'talent' that the selectors see.

However until he showcases this 'talent' in domestic or international, this question mark will always hang over him.

I'm being sarcastic . The guy is a joke.. And he won't get much further than Junaid zia. Not to worry folks..
 
That's because people cant be bothered to make a cricket argument.

How do we know that the rest of the Pakistan players have not come in due to someone's help? We cant be this naive

That's a good point, but Shan seems to be the most obvious, mainly due to his relationships with high end officials in PCB and the government and his poor domestic performances. As well as this, someone like Imran Farhat (who is often used on this forum as an example of sifarish) actually had a good domestic record before playing for Pakistan, so you could technically say that he earned his place.

Shan was a domestic nobody before he came into the team against Zimbabwe, and it raises questions as to why he was picked ahead of so many others with a better record. For example why weren't Afaq Raheem and Abid Ali tried instead? Of course if he had showed some talent then we all would have understood, but so far he has shown us absolutely nothing.

Once again I am not making accusations and I sincerely hope Shan Masood succeeds in international cricket, but with all the doubts around his performance and his relationships, it really does seem like he has something going for him in the hierarchy of our cricketing infrastructure.
 
Pakistan A Captain is playing a very determined knock.


You know what I mean ;-)


Some delightful, confident hooks and pulls by Shan Masood.
 
Where did he learn those hook and pull shots? Incredible for a Pakistani.


A story of taking criticism positively and on your chin and working really hard as a professional sportsman.


His hard work has paid off.


I hope this is his 2.0 version and he now kicks on in his Int Career.
 
A story of taking criticism positively and on your chin and working really hard as a professional sportsman.


His hard work has paid off.


I hope this is his 2.0 version and he now kicks on in his Int Career.

Wonder how he will do against Philander on a slower wicket. Remember how Anderson used to bully him.
 
Credit to Shan for his innings today . What a marked improvement. He always seemed like somebody with a hard working ethic and willingness to improve . It could yet still be a match winning one .
 
It's still early days but Shan has looked good so far. If anything, likes of Sarfraz and Asad should take inspiration from this.

Shan was dropped - worked hard at domestic level, and then outperformed almost everyone bar Rizwan for Pakistan A. Right now, he looks super fit, confident and timing his shots well. Just needs to show consistency now.
 
Has he really turned his game around, or is this a temporary purple patch?

He is been in really good form recently going by his recent domestic record, but it remains to be seen if he can maintain the consistency.
 
It's still early days but Shan has looked good so far. If anything, likes of Sarfraz and Asad should take inspiration from this.

Shan was dropped - worked hard at domestic level, and then outperformed almost everyone bar Rizwan for Pakistan A. Right now, he looks super fit, confident and timing his shots well. Just needs to show consistency now.


Outscored Rizwan and all others from both Pak A & NZ A sides by a fair margin in both FC matches. Most impressive part was the SR.
 

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good to see that at least there is someone in pak batting lineup who can confidently play hook/pull shot.
 
I will be following Shan Masood’s batting like I followed Babar Azam’s early days in his career. The way this man batted in both innings showed very promising signs and Inshallah he performs well in both Tests and ODI’s for Pakistan.

If he can constantly perform well upto the WC19, Pakistan will be looking for a new captain if they flop in the World Cup and I hope Shan would have cemented his name on the teamsheet in order to be up for contention by then.
 
I will be following Shan Masood’s batting like I followed Babar Azam’s early days in his career. The way this man batted in both innings showed very promising signs and Inshallah he performs well in both Tests and ODI’s for Pakistan.

If he can constantly perform well upto the WC19, Pakistan will be looking for a new captain if they flop in the World Cup and I hope Shan would have cemented his name on the teamsheet in order to be up for contention by then.
He just needs to fail in two innings before the fans loose patience with him. I have been supportive of his inclusion in the team for a while.

The other guys who I think have the technique to bat on fast bouncy pitches are Umar Amin and Sohaib Maqsood.
 
Pakistan A Captain is playing a very determined knock.


You know what I mean ;-)


Some delightful, confident hooks and pulls by Shan Masood.



He speaks well. He reads the game well. Not just hardworking but intelligent aswell.


Should be picked as 3rd opener in Odi squad. 3 innings remaining, another fifty or a hundred and he should be made VC of Test team immediately.


Given the number of runs he has scored in List A in Last 2 years and him being superfit I see him becoming next Odi Captain aswell. He will bring calmness in the dressing room aswell as in ground as a leader.


Shan must continue the good work with the bat and shouldn't relax. It's time to cash the hardwork. Given him demeanour I see him remaining grounded.
 
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