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Shan Masood - Why is he selected again?

made up some excuse about doing exams after his name was announced in a squad. He might have been forced, but most Pak players dont budge not matter how much you push.

However, he requested to be left out of the squad and his place was awarded to Umar Gul, who had been initially selected in the Pakistan A team for the one-day series in India, also involving Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.

Like for like replacement
 
However, he requested to be left out of the squad and his place was awarded to Umar Gul, who had been initially selected in the Pakistan A team for the one-day series in India, also involving Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.

Like for like replacement

dont say that Gul, was a very good limited overs bowler till a couple years ago and an average test pacer


Zia was just awful
 
dont say that Gul, was a very good limited overs bowler till a couple years ago and an average test pacer


Zia was just awful

That is true, since 2009 Gul has been bowling utter tripe but his overall record in ODI and T20 is good, he went downhill badly.

The idea of bringing him back for the LOI series is plain absurd.

But the worst thing is that Shan's performance will be forgotten very quickly, just like performances in the Zimbabwe loss (can you tell me who didn't perform?).

With the next test series in almost a year, Shan will be picked to haunt us again
 
He wasn't selected on ability, after his plumb LBW Hafeez was telling him to bat with a straight bat, you guys really need to see his dismissal, his bat was 4 feet from his body.

But for all people still wondering how he was selected, his father (Mansoor Masood Khan) is CEO of UBL and is part of the Board of Governors for PCB:

http://www.pcb.com.pk/board-of-governors.html

His uncle (Ishaq Dar) is also Finance Minister for Pakistan.

This guy is the biggest sifarish after Junaid Zia. Players like Farhat at least showed potential and scored big in domestic (which arguably made it more frustrating because Ilyas used that for justifying).

That beats even Bhanja and Farhat :inti

Hope this is the end for him.
 
One of the most technically inept batsmen I have ever seen take the field in international cricket.

Feet nowhere, head all over the place, bat coming down at all sorts of angles.

I mean who is coaching this guy !
 
He was actually out twice, very lucky to get the lbw decision in his favour before he was out in the next over. Does this guy have an outstanding domestic record, because it's mind boggling to think that the selectors picked him on talent.
 
He was actually out twice, very lucky to get the lbw decision in his favour before he was out in the next over. Does this guy have an outstanding domestic record, because it's mind boggling to think that the selectors picked him on talent.

No averages 34 in domestic.
 
Everyone saw how terrible he was against spin but had the audacity to say 'he is good against pace and will do well abroad'. Probably the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life! The picture below shows how bad he is, feet no where, bat 4 feet from his body. As Saj said, most technically inept person I have ever seen along with Awais Zia.

Shan 1.jpg
 
I hope this is the last we have seen of him until his first class average reach over 40.
 
He wasn't selected on ability, after his plumb LBW Hafeez was telling him to bat with a straight bat, you guys really need to see his dismissal, his bat was 4 feet from his body.

But for all people still wondering how he was selected, his father (Mansoor Masood Khan) is CEO of UBL and is part of the Board of Governors for PCB:

http://www.pcb.com.pk/board-of-governors.html

His uncle (Ishaq Dar) is also Finance Minister for Pakistan.

This guy is the biggest sifarish after Junaid Zia. Players like Farhat at least showed potential and scored big in domestic (which arguably made it more frustrating because Ilyas used that for justifying).

Is this true? That means Shan Masood also has backing of Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif since his uncle Ishaq Dar is father-in-law of Nawaz Sharif's daughter. Great.
 
Everyone saw how terrible he was against spin but had the audacity to say 'he is good against pace and will do well abroad'. Probably the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life! The picture below shows how bad he is, feet no where, bat 4 feet from his body. As Saj said, most technically inept person I have ever seen along with Awais Zia.

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I'm no level 4 coach but things I can observe at a glance :-

Front foot nowhere
Squared up
Head position all wrong, not in line with the ball
Bat hanging away from the body
Bat not in line with the head
 
I'm no level 4 coach but things I can observe at a glance :-

Front foot nowhere
Squared up
Head position all wrong, not in line with the ball
Bat hanging away from the body
Bat not in line with the head



Things are getting worse for him - haven't seen his dismissal, but I guess this was the ball he got out. Absolutely everything wrong, more pathetic was, had that ball came inwards, still he would have edged it onto stumps or to WK. I think, he 'll struggle even more on seaming conditions.

He has some good things in temperament & fitness, may be approach towards game as well, but just not look good enough for Internationals. PAK's next Test is 8-9 months later, unless he improves significantly in next few months, it 'll be difficult for him to keep place in squad.
 
Things are getting worse for him - haven't seen his dismissal, but I guess this was the ball he got out. Absolutely everything wrong, more pathetic was, had that ball came inwards, still he would have edged it onto stumps or to WK. I think, he 'll struggle even more on seaming conditions.

He has some good things in temperament & fitness, may be approach towards game as well, but just not look good enough for Internationals. PAK's next Test is 8-9 months later, unless he improves significantly in next few months, it 'll be difficult for him to keep place in squad.


If he is selected on merit, (and I hope he is), then the entire selection team should be immediately fired!!

Is THIS what our "expert and specialists" selectors have filtered out from domestic talent for a TEST batsman? Seriously, a TEST player ??

I mean, it was OK if it was ODI or T20 but this third class batting standard to qualify TEST cricket ??? Unreal.
 
If he is selected on merit, (and I hope he is), then the entire selection team should be immediately fired!!

Is THIS what our "expert and specialists" selectors have filtered out from domestic talent for a TEST batsman? Seriously, a TEST player ??

I mean, it was OK if it was ODI or T20 but this third class batting standard to qualify TEST cricket ??? Unreal.

Actually, selectors also have their side of story. Don't think blaming entirely selection team is fair.

Once Shehzad was out, PAK had 4 options

1. The most logical one - open with Azhar, put Asad at 3 & debut Haris. But, I am sure 3 person didn't agree with that :
Azhar - he knew he was settled at 3 & if he opens & Asad performs at his No. 3, once Shehzad returns, since Hafeez had a great series, it 'll be Azhar under biggest threat, particularly if Haris also makes a decent contribution. Nothing wrong in that - Azhar isn't dumb like UAkmal that he 'll allow competition sneak into. Players 'll be possessive for their spot - it's the think tank to make the final call.
2. Go for a makeshift opener with Sarf & accommodate Haris. However, I am not in favor of opening with WK, neither other stakeholders, I believe. Also, never fix things, unless it's broken - Sarf is going through a dream run at 7, why disrupt that?
3. Debut Haris as opener - never 'll happen as long as Misbah & WY in charge. Haris bats at 3 in domestics, easily can open. But, this is where the fear factor comes - every PAK batman is afraid of new ball, even for the sake of their career. Amin doesn't like opening, even though that can give him a window, Umar doesn't open even in list A, Babar has moved to 4, though he was the best opener in world at U19 level, Haris 'll not take the chance to debut in Test & Azhar as well (though often he is coming inside 15 minutes).
4. Which the selectors did - choose a regular opener from the squad & as Taufique failed last time, they went for the younger option.

At the end of the day, I 'll blame Misbah & WY for this. Either they should have made Azhar to open & debut Haris or play Haris as opener. Selectors never select playing 11. But, knowing Misbah & WY, I was relieved that PAK didn't go with 8 men in 2nd Test - never change a winning combination & never experiment to accommodate a better balance.

I think, once Shehzad returns, Shan 'll struggle to make the squad - before next Test, few more candidates 'll be there.
 
Actually, selectors also have their side of story. Don't think blaming entirely selection team is fair.

Once Shehzad was out, PAK had 4 options

1. The most logical one - open with Azhar, put Asad at 3 & debut Haris. But, I am sure 3 person didn't agree with that :
Azhar - he knew he was settled at 3 & if he opens & Asad performs at his No. 3, once Shehzad returns, since Hafeez had a great series, it 'll be Azhar under biggest threat, particularly if Haris also makes a decent contribution. Nothing wrong in that - Azhar isn't dumb like UAkmal that he 'll allow competition sneak into. Players 'll be possessive for their spot - it's the think tank to make the final call.
2. Go for a makeshift opener with Sarf & accommodate Haris. However, I am not in favor of opening with WK, neither other stakeholders, I believe. Also, never fix things, unless it's broken - Sarf is going through a dream run at 7, why disrupt that?
3. Debut Haris as opener - never 'll happen as long as Misbah & WY in charge. Haris bats at 3 in domestics, easily can open. But, this is where the fear factor comes - every PAK batman is afraid of new ball, even for the sake of their career. Amin doesn't like opening, even though that can give him a window, Umar doesn't open even in list A, Babar has moved to 4, though he was the best opener in world at U19 level, Haris 'll not take the chance to debut in Test & Azhar as well (though often he is coming inside 15 minutes).
4. Which the selectors did - choose a regular opener from the squad & as Taufique failed last time, they went for the younger option.

At the end of the day, I 'll blame Misbah & WY for this. Either they should have made Azhar to open & debut Haris or play Haris as opener. Selectors never select playing 11. But, knowing Misbah & WY, I was relieved that PAK didn't go with 8 men in 2nd Test - never change a winning combination & never experiment to accommodate a better balance.

I think, once Shehzad returns, Shan 'll struggle to make the squad - before next Test, few more candidates 'll be there.

Dude u r missing the whole point.

The dillemma of such a low standard player making into the nomination of 30 probables for a TEST team is like a serious security breach. How can he get through???

How can he and test cricket be put in the same sentence?
 
Shan Masood-How good is he?

I checked his ESPNcricinfo page and he averages a mere 35 in FC and the less that is said about his ODI and T20 stats the better.

My question is why is he selected for the series against SL. Am I missing something? Or is he far better than his stats suggest to be in over other deserving candidates.

Sure he hit a 182 against Sri Lanka A but 1 knock shouldn't mean he gets a direct entry in.

So, my question is Shan Masood really that good to be selected over and over again?
 
To be fair to him, he did perform really well for Pak A against Sri Lanka.
 
One of the luckiest and least gifted batsman to ever represent a full test nation
 
Shan is similar to what Azhar was 5 years back. I like Shan's dedication at the youth level he was clearly below likes of Amin, Shehzad in terms of talent but with hardwork and dedication he has become a batsman at par with them. I believe Shan experience of playing in England will benefit us when we tour next year.
 
Yeah but do you think he merits a spot on that 1 knock alone?

Maybe yeah, maybe no. Personally, I'd have liked to see Babar Azam in there instead of Shan. But he only played 2 innings and in one of those 2 innings he scored a ton, so you can't really ask for more tbh. My point is that his selection wasn't pure nepotism like some people are suggesting here.
 
He may or may not prove to be a good player if given a few matches. But that depends on his own-self and own-self only.

Whereas 99% of players in other cricketing nations come through successfull, proven grooming academies and then once in the national team, management willing to get something out of a potential player, groom him further. Just like Warner,Smith etc.

I don't see management working on this guy unless as someone said, he has contacts in the board.. Then it's different.
 
Selected over fawad alam ?

Not really. There are atleast 5 other players who have replaced fawad alam since 2009.
That guy has a history behind him of being kicked to accommodate "classy left handers" and what not
 
IMO - he deserves more chances before we can decide whether or not he is good enough. Not so long ago, he did score 70 odd off the likes of Steyn and Morkel so he can be decent.

In terms of talent, he is probably not the greatest but talent is not everything as we all know. He deserves more opportunities and if he still fails, he would have no one to blame but himself - especially with Babar Azam/Sami Aslam knocking on the door of a test spot.
 
IMO - he deserves more chances before we can decide whether or not he is good enough. Not so long ago, he did score 70 odd off the likes of Steyn and Morkel so he can be decent.

In terms of talent, he is probably not the greatest but talent is not everything as we all know. He deserves more opportunities and if he still fails, he would have no one to blame but himself - especially with Babar Azam/Sami Aslam knocking on the door of a test spot.

pathetic, pathetic player.

should never ever be close to a real first class team, let alone an international one.
 
IMO - he deserves more chances before we can decide whether or not he is good enough. Not so long ago, he did score 70 odd off the likes of Steyn and Morkel so he can be decent.

In terms of talent, he is probably not the greatest but talent is not everything as we all know. He deserves more opportunities and if he still fails, he would have no one to blame but himself - especially with Babar Azam/Sami Aslam knocking on the door of a test spot.

some one with some sensible thinking. Great, many are saying he is Parchee , sifarish e.t.c but now he is in the team so let him play. and what if he plays well?? his father is in PCB or whatever, that doesn't mean he is parchee and all. Give him a chance, if he fails then surely kick him out of the team and bring Babar and e.t.c
 
should be a free wicket for SL in this last test match!
 
should be a free wicket for SL in this last test match!

some one with some sensible thinking. Great, many are saying he is Parchee , sifarish e.t.c but now he is in the team so let him play. and what if he plays well?? his father is in PCB or whatever, that doesn't mean he is parchee and all. Give him a chance, if he fails then surely kick him out of the team and bring Babar and e.t.c


i know inside story , to summary its Parchee + Lots of Pressure + blackmailing


5 years ago in the summer of 2010 people called one bowler a parchee player

Ironically he is the best fast bowler we have now

I am neither a supporter nor hater of Shan Masood but just saying.
 
some one with some sensible thinking. Great, many are saying he is Parchee , sifarish e.t.c but now he is in the team so let him play. and what if he plays well?? his father is in PCB or whatever, that doesn't mean he is parchee and all. Give him a chance, if he fails then surely kick him out of the team and bring Babar and e.t.c

If only all could think like us! :11:
 
He did well v SL A, let's see how he does. Also told he has been working on his bowling as a medium pacer and can swing the ball both ways - so who knows; we may see him bowl.
 
while batting? [MENTION=107807]Pete Rose[/MENTION]

I think you have me confused for an Umar Amin fan. I have not seen Shan Masood bat.
As long as he is not a mentally weak cricketer who gives it away to superior opposition (Hafeez) or chickens out by slogging it to mid wicket (Akmal) we should not have a problem
 
Looking terrible out there again, barely survived twice.

Lankans not being able to get this free wicket, may go on to score now. Quality bowling attacks will feast on him/Shehzad.
 
Sami Aslam should count himself very unlucky forvhaving been dropped for the New Farhat.
 
He is worst than the farhat thing.
Wonder how he made to playing eleven over the likes of fawad alam and babar azam...
Height of favouritism.
 
He scored 182 against SL A team and sucked the selectors into believing that he is the real deal.
 
LOL!!!
yeah thats what his fan advocate here.
Players like him, ehsan adil etc should be nowhere near team
 
What has he done wrong ? Come back game and please let the guy breathe ! Hafeez is playing for so long without doing anything


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Absolute rubbish. I feel annoyed to read such lies. Do not spread lies on PP about a certain cricketer just because he has failed so far early on.

why i need to speak lie , i don't know shan , i don't want any one to come in team like you , what i am saying i can prove it
 
Playing well so far. Off spinner will cause him problems though as lot of rough around those spots. Kaushal is a quality quality off spinner. I really hope he can get through it.
 
What has he done wrong ? Come back game and please let the guy breathe ! Hafeez ****** is playing for so long without doing anything


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Nepotism has no boundaries. Even a player from Karachi can be favored sometimes, even though it may have been difficult to accept this deal.
 
Dean Jones on Shaan Masood

"Pakistan just keep producing these talented kids"

"Shan has played really well, Sri Lanka don't have an answer for him"

But PP knows more then Dean Jones.

:) :) :)
 
Dean Jones on Shaan Masood

"Pakistan just keep producing these talented kids"

"Shan has played really well, Sri Lanka don't have an answer for him"

But PP knows more then Dean Jones.

:) :) :)

haters gonna hate mate..:) Shan rocks:P
 
I always thought he was much much better than shehzad. The reason his fc and older test stats are bad is because he has improved a lot. Even last innings he got out unluckily and looked beautiful. Esp when he gets used to the short ball
 
"Masood has played beautifully, he really has" - Dean Jones.

Come on man. Deano keep saying such things everytime a player plays well. No need to quote every word that comes out of his mouth.
Even a blind person can see shan has done well here.
 
BD, can imagine the ecstasy you must be going through ;-)

I'm happy too that Pak is getting closer to victory. He did well today but to me it looks like a false hope as the ability is not there, or not yet. Looked scratchy too.

Obviously sealed his spot for next series so let's see how it goes. Sami and him should open. Kick out Shehzad.
 
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BD, can imagine the ecstasy you must be going through ;-)

I'm happy too that Pak is getting closer to victory. He did well today but to me it looks like a false hope as the ability is not there, or not yet. Looked scratchy too.

Obviously sealed his spot for next series so let's see how it goes. Sami and him should open. Kick out Shehzad.

What is your obsession with Sami Aslam?

I know him and like him but he had three innings vs Bangladesh on flat decks against a pathetic test attack and failed. He's a good ODI batsman but in tests he was rubbish.

Shaan would have had a ton in Bangla for sure.
 
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