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Shardul Thakur - an 'un'-inspired selection for India?

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Anyone who has watched any cricket can see this guy is as mediocre as they get. What do Kohli and Shastri see in this dude? He doesn't have height, he doesn't have any swing, his pace is average and he can't seam the ball 1 millimeter. Why is he in the team?

Atleast navdeep saini has little pace and height going for him, why is Thakur playing over Saini?

I know Kohli is a great captain for pacers and backs the fast bowlers but you can't back mediocrity and expect it to become gold.

Kohli and Shastri both need to come to their senses and drop this mediocre trndler once and for all. He is so bad he won't even find a spot in our 90's team.

Investigation needs to be started how such a useless player can play so many matches for India.
 
They giving him a lot of chances before discarding him. He is a good explosive batter so maybe trying to watch if he can be a useful all rounder.
 
They giving him a lot of chances before discarding him. He is a good explosive batter so maybe trying to watch if he can be a useful all rounder.

PLAYER OF THE MATCH in 4th T20I vs NZ
Shardul Thakur


Now talk!
 
New Zealand's mediocrity will eventually hurt us, first Vijay Shankar and now Shardul Thakur.

It seems NZ should only play LOs when they have Boult in the squad fit enough.
 
Its beyond me why New Zealand haven't finished his career off already. Just goes to show what a poor team they are. The likes of Babar, Finch, warner, English batsmen will smash him into the Pacific ocean during the world T20.
 
Don't see him doing much against the likes of Warner ,Finch,Lewis,Roy, Bairstow, etc on those Australian pitches. Think India like the fact he can offer some late order hitting with the bat so want to give him a chance. Personally I think if Bhuvi is fit he is a better option than Thakur.
 
How Faulkner "reshaped" ishant's Odi career for India , other teams could do the same for thakur in t20 wc.
 
New Zealand's mediocrity will eventually hurt us, first Vijay Shankar and now Shardul Thakur.

It seems NZ should only play LOs when they have Boult in the squad fit enough.

shankar never cost India games. he deserved more chances.
 
This guy shouldn't even be in the team.

NZ are so rubbish they couldn't whack his pies out of the ground lol.

Chahal, Dubey, Shardul...

How did NZ lose 4 t20s to this lineup?

Lol.
 
thakur is a throwback to the kind of bowlers we used to have in the 90s, must be a combination of mumbai lobby and nostalgia quota pick that he keeps getting games as a bowling AR. :)) He had no business finishing as MOTM or with conceding less than 7 in that final over IMO.
 
shankar never cost India games. he deserved more chances.

No he doesnt. Vijay Shankar was bits and pieces with both bat and bowl. In his 30s and yet absolutely mediocre. At similar level to Dube except that Dube can hit it far better in T20 cricket. We are better off without him.
 
No he doesnt. Vijay Shankar was bits and pieces with both bat and bowl. In his 30s and yet absolutely mediocre. At similar level to Dube except that Dube can hit it far better in T20 cricket. We are better off without him.

he is 28 but from what I have seen he is quite good. dubey has potential. just need to show some faith I suppose.
 
India has much better bowlers. I don't know why they are wasting their time on him.
 
No he doesnt. Vijay Shankar was bits and pieces with both bat and bowl. In his 30s and yet absolutely mediocre. At similar level to Dube except that Dube can hit it far better in T20 cricket. We are better off without him.

Dubey can only dream of playing that magnificent innings against Boult & Co. That crucial partnership with Rayudu was the sole reason for India's win that day. Check out Shankar's recent performances against NZ A. He's a proper bat and not the hoic master like mediocre Dubey. Shankar was discarded too early without giving long run for bits and pieces Pandya. Shankar is going to get back into the team very soon despite all the hate some people show at him here.
 
Dubey can only dream of playing that magnificent innings against Boult & Co. That crucial partnership with Rayudu was the sole reason for India's win that day. Check out Shankar's recent performances against NZ A. He's a proper bat and not the hoic master like mediocre Dubey. Shankar was discarded too early without giving long run for bits and pieces Pandya. Shankar is going to get back into the team very soon despite all the hate some people show at him here.

agreed. that dude is underrated. needs more time. But he lacks pace though. still did well enough to help india be a pakistan and australia in odi series.
 
He is rubbish.

It must be very frustrating for the Indian fans to see the selectors still making idiotic decisions in spite of flowing with quality players.

Mediocrities like Thakur should not be playing for India in 2020.
 
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He is rubbish.

It must be very frustrating for the Indian fans to see the selectors still making idiotic decisions in spite of flowing with quality players.

Mediocrities like Thakur should not be playing for India in 2020.

There is a reason why many Indians despise Kohli the LOI kaptan (who in my view is the DUMBEST LOI captain I have had the misfortune of witnessing).

Part of me wants us to NOT win anything in LOI till he is sacked so that he doesn't get any credit (which would be the right thing in a fair world).

Test kaptan Kohli is also just as stupid (luckily others usually cover up for his mistakes) but there atleast he deserves credit for other things he has done
 
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More than Shradhul it angers me to see Kedhar 34 yr old..really not sure what’s the plan there?
 
Add kuldeep and jadeja too! 4 weaklings in the elite line up

Jadeja is there for so called "balance". Kuldeep i will not write him off. Even on his worst day he got a wicket by beating batsman in the air. Atleast couple of very very close stumping chances he created.
 
Its highly unlikely Thakur can compete with other pacers which India has. I think the only reason selectors and management have been selecting him is because of unavailability of Bhuvi who provided some sort of batting depth at 8. Also if Pandya would have been there than maybe Jadeja could have been at no 8.

Having Kuldeep, Shami, Bumrah and Saini at no 8 onward gives a pretty long tail. I am not saying its the right decision but this might be something management would have been thinking.
 
Jadeja is there for so called "balance". Kuldeep i will not write him off. Even on his worst day he got a wicket by beating batsman in the air. Atleast couple of very very close stumping chances he created.

Kuldeep is no doubt a wicket taker.

He has insane stats.

But if you give away 8-10 rpo...then you have to take wickets soo fast that the game is (practically) over before you cross the 6th over.

10 overs 80 runs 2 wickets simply doesn't cut it if the opposition have a series of batsmen ready to attack. Had Taylor got out to Kuldeep and NZ lost, it would look like a great effort but in reality, this would not work against a batting lineup full of in-form attacking bats.

Look at the 2 wickets Kuldeep took today:

1. One when batsmen wanted to drive him but went off-balance.

2. One when batsmen went full on slog and holed out after doing the damage.

Maybe Kuldeep's shoulder injury is what preventing him from bowling well.

But then he hasn't been bowling well for a long time now.

Either he is too short or too full.

Also he is barely taking more than 1 wicket per game these days (stats wise).

Not sure what exactly is going wrong for Kuldeep? I mean why is his radar messed up?
 
^ Only reason i kinda give a pass to Kuldeep is he is not fully fit, injured. Under lights in NZ it is very hard to spinner to hold any kind of control. You can just slog across the line. There is every chance he will come back very well. Leg spinners can go for a lot of runs. But they can also take wickets. There is no reason why NZ could not have done the same to Ashwin/Chahal.
 
This is not the first time a mediocre player is getting so many chances while better players are sitting outside. Players like Shardul, Jadhav, Pant will keep getting chances in the future as well. :inti
 
Dubey can only dream of playing that magnificent innings against Boult & Co. That crucial partnership with Rayudu was the sole reason for India's win that day. Check out Shankar's recent performances against NZ A. He's a proper bat and not the hoic master like mediocre Dubey. Shankar was discarded too early without giving long run for bits and pieces Pandya. Shankar is going to get back into the team very soon despite all the hate some people show at him here.

lol some local experts here are not going to forgive you for saying this. They would have cried if someone like Pandya have been treated like Shankar. :inti
 
^ Only reason i kinda give a pass to Kuldeep is he is not fully fit, injured. Under lights in NZ it is very hard to spinner to hold any kind of control. You can just slog across the line. There is every chance he will come back very well. Leg spinners can go for a lot of runs. But they can also take wickets. There is no reason why NZ could not have done the same to Ashwin/Chahal.

Kuldeep is going through a horrible bad patch, kind of what Rahul had been though. He has all the talents in the world and a solid base but how he deals with his current lack of form and confidence is gonna define his career. Amit Mishra is one of the most complete legies I have seen in last couple of decades but his poor mental game prevented him from having a stellar career. I sincerely hope Kuldeep doesn't go that route, too good a talent to be limited to domestics and IPL. He needs to evolve and reinvent himself.

Sad to say but on current form he is one of the weakest links of our bowling, the other being Shardul.
 
Kuldeep is no doubt a wicket taker.

He has insane stats.

But if you give away 8-10 rpo...then you have to take wickets soo fast that the game is (practically) over before you cross the 6th over.

10 overs 80 runs 2 wickets simply doesn't cut it if the opposition have a series of batsmen ready to attack. Had Taylor got out to Kuldeep and NZ lost, it would look like a great effort but in reality, this would not work against a batting lineup full of in-form attacking bats.

Look at the 2 wickets Kuldeep took today:

1. One when batsmen wanted to drive him but went off-balance.

2. One when batsmen went full on slog and holed out after doing the damage.

Maybe Kuldeep's shoulder injury is what preventing him from bowling well.

But then he hasn't been bowling well for a long time now.

Either he is too short or too full.

Also he is barely taking more than 1 wicket per game these days (stats wise).

Not sure what exactly is going wrong for Kuldeep? I mean why is his radar messed up?

Harsh but true, he is terribly out of form, with performances like today he is neither helping the team nor himself.
 
Shardul has a very bulky lower body, not ideal for a sportsperson let alone a fast bowler.
 
This guy is clocking 140k, 135k most of the time. Yet they treat him like garbage. Same 135k from Bumrah looks quicker.
 
So why is he in the team? He is one of those sifarashi players that Raju Srivastava once joked about in one of his stand up acts?
 
can someone please tell me for the love of god why he is playing for india? Why does india have to involve politics into cricket. This is just pathetic.
 
No fast bowler should be having belly like Thakur has. Malinga is old now. He still has the skill. You could excuse him. But relatively young guys should be fit. This guy looks like he didn't play cricket for 2 or 3 years and suddenly gets called up.
 
No fast bowler should be having belly like Thakur has. Malinga is old now. He still has the skill. You could excuse him. But relatively young guys should be fit. This guy looks like he didn't play cricket for 2 or 3 years and suddenly gets called up.

definitely a political quota based decision.
 
Thakur is the biggest match winner, err... for India's opponents.
 
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30 run over :

Shivam Dube ✓
Lord thakur x

expected a 30 run over from him but so far he has bowled only a 20 run over! Hope my wish will be fulfilled in the world cup.
 
His confidence is low atm. He needs longer run in the team, hope India persists with him.
Shardul will become a quality bowler.
 
BCCI not impressed as Shardul Thakur violates lockdown rules to train outdoors in Mumbai

Shardul Thakur made headlines on Saturday by becoming the first Indian contracted player to hit the training ground after the central government in its Lockdown 4.0 guidelines allowed sportspersons to train individually in sports complexes after taking required permissions and following strict guidelines. But sadly, Shardul trained on his own despite contracted players needing the boards green signal.

Speaking to IANS, a BCCI official said that it was unfortunate that the Mumbai pacer decided to train without seeking permission from the board. "He isn't allowed as he is contracted. Sadly, he went on his own. Shouldn't have done this, not a smart move," the official rued.

Interestingly, Team Indian skipper Virat Kohli and limited-overs deputy Rohit Sharma are both in Mumbai along with the likes of Shreyas Iyer. But all the players have ensured that they stay indoors and have not hit any sports complex even after the government relaxed the overall restriction on Sunday.

Shardul is a contracted cricketer of the BCCI and is part of Grade C as per the current contract that has been drawn. More importantly, he is in a state which has seen one of the most number of coronavirus cases in the country.

Sources in the board further said that while he trained in Palghar district Â- a non-red zone Â- it wasn't very smart on his part to go ahead and train without taking an approval from the board at a time when the BCCI is doing everything possible to ensure the safety of the players.

Reports in the media said that Shardul was part of the net session held at the Palghar Dahanu Taluka District Sports Association Ground. The India pacer spoke to the media after the session and said that he didn't use saliva to shine the ball as he abided by the recommendation of the ICC Cricket Committee which has asked players to refrain from using saliva to shine the ball.

The ICC Cricket Committee chaired by Anil Kumble recommended banning the usage of saliva to polish the match ball. It however noted that the risk of spread of the virus through sweat is "highly unlikely" and "saw no need to prohibit" the practice.

"The ICC Cricket Committee heard from the Chair of the ICC Medical Advisory Committee Dr Peter Harcourt regarding the elevated risk of the transmission of the virus through saliva, and unanimously agreed to recommend that the use of saliva to polish the ball be prohibited," said the ICC in its statement.

"The committee also noted the medical advice that it is highly unlikely that the virus can be transmitted through sweat and saw no need to prohibit the use of sweat to polish the ball whilst recommending that enhanced hygiene measures are implemented on and around the playing field."
https://www.freepressjournal.in/spo...es-lockdown-rules-to-train-outdoors-in-mumbai
 
Lets show some love and respect for Shardul bhai for showing great fight back today for India with the bat.

Well done bro. :14:
 
He is the worst bowler I have seen play for India in recent times, but I am also not surprised that he did well in the first innings and even scored runs.

This Australian team is scared of India. They cannot wait for the series to end.

Australia will be mentally scarred against India for years to come.
 
He is the worst bowler I have seen play for India in recent times, but I am also not surprised that he did well in the first innings and even scored runs.

This Australian team is scared of India. They cannot wait for the series to end.

Australia will be mentally scarred against India for years to come.

He's a lot better than Ashok Dinda, Vinay Kumar and Mohit Sharma
 
Shardul Thakur - 67 & 3/94
Half Century & Picked 3 Wickets in a test against to Australia.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shardul Thakur said every batsman has their own plans while facing the bowlers. It would have been foolish of him to try and attack Nathan Lyon. The plan was to rotate the strike and bat as long as possible. (To Press).</p>— Mufaddal Vohra (@mufaddal_vohra) <a href="https://twitter.com/mufaddal_vohra/status/1350736618806681601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Giving batting lessons to talented seniors :narine
 
Just like Hardik Pandya he is yet to reach his peak. Team management should show the same level of confidence in guys like Sundar and Thakur. :inti
 
Shardul Thakur Says "Transition Is Not That Difficult" After Touring Australia With India A Side

Shardul Thakur on Sunday said that players who had represented the 'India A' side now have experience of playing in overseas conditions before making it to the national squad. India was bundled out for 336 in the first innings as hosts took a 33-run lead based on the first innings in the fourth Test at the Gabba, Brisbane. At one stage, the visitors were in a deep state of bother having lost six wickets for 186 runs but Shardul Thakur (67) and Washington Sundar (62) got together at the crease to form a 123-run stand for the seventh wicket, bringing India back in the game.

"A-Tours are meant to give experience to your second lineup. It has helped a lot, we were here in 2016 and we played at the Allan Border Field. We played four-day games there, a pitch there is different, but at least you are used to Australian conditions, when you take that leap from India A to the senior side, the transition is not that difficult, it is all about how you execute at the senior level," said Shardul during the post-match press conference.

Australia reached 21 for no loss at the end of the third day's play, extending their lead to 54 runs. David Warner (20*) and Marcus Harris (1*) are currently unbeaten for the hosts. "I have the talent for batting, whenever there are throwdowns taking place in nets, I practice my batting, these are the type of moments for which we practice our batting. An opportunity presented itself in this match, I knew that the team would benefit if I stay at the crease for a long haul. I haven't batted with Sundar much, I have just batted with him once or twice, once it was in a T20 match and once it was a practice game," said Shardul. "Both of us have that temperament to succeed at this level, honestly we were not looking at the scoreboard, the idea was to spend some time in the middle. We knew their bowlers were tiring, it was a matter of one hour, if we hung in there for one more hour then probably we would be on the top as the bowlers were already tiring. Both of us were communicating really well in the middle, if someone was losing control or trying a rash shot, we were immediately communicating that let's get back to normal," he added. Further talking about the 123-run stand with Sundar, Shardul said: "We were trying to defend a lot, as our partnership going on, we know there is some true bounce here at Gabba, we were just waiting for our chance, whenever there was a loose delivery, we were trying to put that away. It is a long tour, as a player, it is challenging to stay motivated and do well in the last game, the series is tied at 1-1, this game turns out to be the series decider so you do not need extra motivation, it is about giving 100 percent for the team."

"Australian players were trying to have a conversation with me, but I was not replying. I just replied once or twice, there were a lot of normal questions, even if they were trying to sled me, I did not hear it, I just played on" he added. Shardul also said that he always remembered coach Ravi Shastri's words that people remember how players perform in Australia.

"When I walked in, the situation was difficult. The crowd was cheering for Australian bowlers, they were on top at that point in time, but I remember our coach Ravi Shastri saying right at the start of the white-ball series, he said if you perform in this country, you will be rewarded and people will love you for your performances. That one thing was also in my mind that if I perform here it will help my team and people will love me," said Shardul.

https://sports.ndtv.com/australia-v...mp=1&akamai-rum=off&__twitter_impression=true
 
Can be a good backup option at no.8. If in future, Ashwin is replaced by Kuldeep and Jadeja is replaced by Sundar or Pandya, then Shardul can be picked for no.8 position as he is a better batsman than all the other pace bowling options.

But I am sure Jadeja has atleast good 3-4 years of cricket left in him.
 
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His confidence is low atm. He needs longer run in the team, hope India persists with him.
Shardul will become a quality bowler.

Hats off to me.......

I supported him when everyone was bashing him like no tomorrow.

He will not have a great test career and will not sustain his place in the team once main players comeback but he has already contributed enough for Indian cricket as he played his part and helped his team win its one of the biggest test series victory.
 
I hadn't seen anything much of him before THAT Australia match and was ready to dismiss him when I saw him take the field on the basis of his appearance and name - no offence to any Thakur here, but he seemed like one of those Dhoni staples that MS liked to have during his time - some random Sharma, Tyagi and other nobodies.

But what was soon obvious about Shardul was how hard he tries and believes he can pull off the improbable. He seems all about stuff rather than attitude. Contrast that with Hardik.

Hardik looks amazing when he comes off with the bat - too bad it happens rarely for India.

Shardul vs Hardik is a classic case of what's still wrong with our cricket and our world where a guy who shows off more off the field than on, who is social-media savvy and who laughs a toothy grin when he keeps swishing at thin air, keeps getting love from the captain and a disproportionate number of fans.

Considering the hype Hardik has riding on him, what exactly has he done to be first choice over Thakur. Don't care what he might have done with Mumbai Indians. But why does someone who is a great trier like Thakur always look one game away from the axe :uak
 
I hadn't seen anything much of him before THAT Australia match and was ready to dismiss him when I saw him take the field on the basis of his appearance and name - no offence to any Thakur here, but he seemed like one of those Dhoni staples that MS liked to have during his time - some random Sharma, Tyagi and other nobodies.

But what was soon obvious about Shardul was how hard he tries and believes he can pull off the improbable. He seems all about stuff rather than attitude. Contrast that with Hardik.

Hardik looks amazing when he comes off with the bat - too bad it happens rarely for India.

Shardul vs Hardik is a classic case of what's still wrong with our cricket and our world where a guy who shows off more off the field than on, who is social-media savvy and who laughs a toothy grin when he keeps swishing at thin air, keeps getting love from the captain and a disproportionate number of fans.

Considering the hype Hardik has riding on him, what exactly has he done to be first choice over Thakur. Don't care what he might have done with Mumbai Indians. But why does someone who is a great trier like Thakur always look one game away from the axe :uak

I think Thakur has been given enough credit. He's been in the team in every game. He's been trusted as one of the main bowlers. Hardik Pandya is no dud as you claim though. Toothy grins aside, he was MOS in Aus T20s, played well in the ODIs, played well in the Eng T20s so far. He is clutch and does well under pressure. Number of fans depend on one's engagement. BK has been a beast in T20s so far and this ODI and has been a rock for SRH for years. I'm sure he doesn't have many fans either. Neither does Ishanth or Shami. Engaging with fans is an art. As.far as the last question goes, Hardik is a genuine all rounder that has changed games with bat or ball. Shardul can slog a few but is a better bowler. Hardik is a gun fielder too. So he's.more valuable occupying the AR spot while Shardul needs to compete for the third bowlers slot.
 
His ODI stats currently

Matches : 12
Wkts : 15
Avg : 44
Eco : 6.8

:inti
Updated
13 matches
18 wickers
Avg 38
Eco 6.77

Anyway I think he has come a long way from 5 over 50 for 0 type of bowler and stats will improve.
Obviously shouldn't play as a main bowler but a 5th bowler lower order hitter type. Let's see
 
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I hadn't seen anything much of him before THAT Australia match and was ready to dismiss him when I saw him take the field on the basis of his appearance and name - no offence to any Thakur here, but he seemed like one of those Dhoni staples that MS liked to have during his time - some random Sharma, Tyagi and other nobodies.

But what was soon obvious about Shardul was how hard he tries and believes he can pull off the improbable. He seems all about stuff rather than attitude. Contrast that with Hardik.

Hardik looks amazing when he comes off with the bat - too bad it happens rarely for India.

Shardul vs Hardik is a classic case of what's still wrong with our cricket and our world where a guy who shows off more off the field than on, who is social-media savvy and who laughs a toothy grin when he keeps swishing at thin air, keeps getting love from the captain and a disproportionate number of fans.

Considering the hype Hardik has riding on him, what exactly has he done to be first choice over Thakur. Don't care what he might have done with Mumbai Indians. But why does someone who is a great trier like Thakur always look one game away from the axe :uak

Hardik has an ODI average of 34 and Strike Rate of 115. That is Maxwell level numbers and he won them the LOI series in Australia. His bowling is clearly better than Maxwell.

So, Pandya does justice to the hype in LOIs. Also, if there is one player that is unreplacable in our T20 side, it is HP only.
 
Shardul has for sure surprised me over the last few months. India should play him in the T20I XI ahead of Mohammad Shami. He provides more control than Shami and can give you 15-20 runs late down the order. Not sure he will make the ODI side if Bumrah & Bhuvi are fit. Prasidh has shown good promise as well and with Shami & Saini ahead of him, his chances in the 50 overs format look bleak.
 
He is rubbish.

It must be very frustrating for the Indian fans to see the selectors still making idiotic decisions in spite of flowing with quality players.

Mediocrities like Thakur should not be playing for India in 2020.

I grew up in mumbai and played a lot in local mumbai tournaments . Thakur comes from that background as Sachin . Think of him as the bowling version of Sachin but less talented . What he makes up for that is his khadoos attitude . Mumbai players like him who have travelled hard roads and done long yards are very experienced and an average mumbai bowler who goes to the mumbai squad has a lot of experience behind him

Shastri , bharat arun know one thing for sure - bowling . Shastri gets it right almost every time with his bowling selections .

Thakur has proved even you wrong - his performances with ball and bat will ensure he will be the Ravi Shastri of this generation - punching beyond his talent through sheer hard work and khadoos attitude .
 
Current Indian bowling pecking order.
Test :
Bumrah,
Shami,
Ishant,
Siraj,
Umesh,
Bhuvi (if fit , he may be in that WTC Final ahead of ishant, but will definitely play in those 5 tests vs eng )
Shardul.

ODI :
Bumrah
Bhuvi
Shardul( ahead of Shami coz of his batting)
Shami
Siraj
Natarajan
Prasidh krishna

T20:
Bumrah,
Bhuvi
Natarajan
Shardul
Shami
Siraj

Assuming all are fit, this is likely the pecking order of selection for fast bowlers
 
Trundler bowling to an overhyped England batting line-up.
 
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