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Sharjeel Khan versus Mohammad Rizwan in T20Is

Pakrodens said:
Would have loved Sharjeel with Rizwan as opener. Would have been the perfect balance. But Sharjeel is fatter then he used to be. Even when PCB told him to get fitter, he went on and got fatter.
Thats a big middlefinger to PCB. Have you guys seen the final of NT20 cup? The guy was leaking runs in the fielding for fun, was throwing balls everywhere while fielding. Unless he loses atleast 30kgs, he should never be allowed to make a comeback.
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Good post - agree with everything you're saying.
 
I hope Rizwan as skipper has guts to ask for Sharjeel's inclusion

But guess what the Selectors are independent now!
 
I had to go to war here trying to open the eyes of people

Pakistan cricket fans are as dumb as their players when it comes to understanding white ball cricket.
 
All of them gone into hiding now that Rizwan’s sr of 98 in World championships has left them red faced
 
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Sharjeel - the king of hitting pace in Pakistan.

Nobody smashes the ball as well as him in the country. His bat speed and reflexes are phenomenal.

Absurd to compare him with pure accumulators.
 
Glad the spot fixer Sharjeel hasn't been picked in recent times. I was a big fan of him but he let everyone down by cheating, and to be honest he should have been banned for life. I don't know why Pakistanis always ask for fixers to come back, its embarrassing.
 
Rana said:
Why did you bump this thread?
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When you mentioned him with Warner in other thread , then it would have been unjustice not to pay homage to this thread.
 
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I feel like Pakistan didn't use Sharjeel properly. He could've been a game changer.

Sharjeel is a natural hitter.
 
Nabeel23 said:
Glad the spot fixer Sharjeel hasn't been picked in recent times. I was a big fan of him but he let everyone down by cheating, and to be honest he should have been banned for life. I don't know why Pakistanis always ask for fixers to come back, its embarrassing.
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I don't want Sharjeel back. I think he was way overhyped.

But it's important to highlight the inconsistencies.

We have selected fixers and we have selected overweight and unfit players.

It's therefore unfair to use these criteria solely against Sharjeel.

Although I suppose on the flip side you can say that Sharjeel is the only one who is unfit and also a fixer.
 
I didn't even know such a thread existed 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Is this some sort of joke? What's next, Rizwan vs Don Bradman in test?
 
22 avg 133 sr, 0.83 sixes per game
49 avg 126 sr, 1.03 sixes per game

I know who I'm picking.
 
Rana said:
All of them gone into hiding now that Rizwan’s sr of 98 in World championships has left them red faced
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Why did this thread get bumped, can we compare Rizwan to actual international cricketers, not guys that were playing against Yuvraj Singh and Ambati Rayudu 4 months back.
 
iPakistani said:
Why did this thread get bumped, can we compare Rizwan to actual international cricketers, not guys that were playing against Yuvraj Singh and Ambati Rayudu 4 months back.
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I didnt get this thread bumped. It was one of your mates who did.

Im here to deliver one punch knockout blows as usual.
 
Rana said:
I didnt get this thread bumped. It was one of your mates who did.

Im here to deliver one punch knockout blows as usual.
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You've never done that, you created a thread to try and discredit Misbah post the England series win and got 15 reactions on your head within 9 minutes of it being posted. That's a one punch knockout.
 
Sharjeel is very lucky guy got many chances despite his fitness and disciplinary issues yet he failed every time.

Rizwan on the other hand continued as a professional and eventually is the top of his career.

So as an overall player Rizwan over Sharjeel.

Hopefully this case will be closed now ,like Sharjeel Khan support thread.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Wow. Didn't know Sharjeel had such mediocre T20Is record
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One of the most overrated 'hitters' of the recent generation.

Terrible fitness, terrible attitude, terrible fielder, spot fixer.

There's a reason no one picked him for the last PSL, no one wants him around the team or the younger guys. He's been playing in the Legends league with Kamran Akmal and Robin Uthappa this summer. (he's younger than Kohli)
 
CerebralPatriot said:
Joke of a comparison

If sharjeel was treated correctly and got the chances he deserved, we would have easily won at least one Asia cup and one T20 World Cup

Rizwan on the other hand is the worst T20 player of all time period
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I agree that Sharjeel wasn't handled correctly after his return from ban.

Big bulky player with great hitting capabilities. Should've been integrated in the team by now.
 
I have fought wars here

Stood alone for ages. Eventually, the world sees the truth.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Don't be so harsh on Sarfraz. At least he won us CT17 with his captaincy. I knew he was bad fit in T20Is. That I agree. Hiding behind bowlers
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Sarfi didn't even captain 5 international tournaments 🤣🤣.

2017 ct
2018 asia cup( If it counts)
2019 wc

Where are you getting 5 from?
 
sweep_shot said:
In hindsight, Sarfaraz wasn't bad at all. Pakistan are yet to find a suitable replacement for Sarfaraz (for captaincy).
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Sarfi was pakistan's best whiteball captain since YK and IK, He was a very poor red ball captain.

This is why I suggested saud for red ball, Agha for odi and shaheen for t20.

This all format or double format captain drama must end.

Even pat cummins doesn't captain t20, and cummins is an atg captain. Dude literally stated he'd win wtc 2023 and wc 2023 months before either event happened and he did just that lol. Legend.
 
mominsaigol said:
Sarfi was pakistan's best whiteball captain since YK and IK, He was a very poor red ball captain.

This is why I suggested saud for red ball, Agha for odi and shaheen for t20.

This all format or double format captain drama must end.

Even pat cummins doesn't captain t20, and cummins is an atg captain. Dude literally stated he'd win wtc 2023 and wc 2023 months before either event happened and he did just that lol. Legend.
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For sure.

Under Sarfaraz, Pakistan won CT 2017 and were #1 in T20 ranking.
 
That fat hack sharjeel or whatever was awful.i m glad I don't have to see his big tidd in the field. Fat hack has failed so many times and he was a very poor batsman.

On the other hand rizwan is not a T20 player he has failed in t20is tournaments many times and he is not a T20 player and dumb PCB has made him the captain.Rizwan should be nowhere near t20is team.
 
sweep_shot said:
For sure.

Under Sarfaraz, Pakistan won CT 2017 and were #1 in T20 ranking.
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It's very very rare to see an all format captain now days.

Each format has different settings, different styles of play and different players.

You have to be extraordinary leader to be successful as an all format captain.

Rizzu's captaincy appointment doesn't even make any sense. Even the most die hard rizzu haters like redwood believe rizzu will take t20 cricket back to 2007.
 
So from sympathy to Sharjeel to Rizwan bashing to Glorification of Sarfraz, this thread went zigzag.

While the crux is

Sarfraz had a peak moment not achieved by many in Pakistan cricket, he should be respected for winning a golabl tourney.

Sarraz had a shocking phase therefore Rizwan eventually toppled him, its Rizwan time now we will see if he prevails or fails.

Still, Sharjeel Khan failed to fulfill his talent despite being a blue eyed boy ,from Ramiz Raja to Waqar Younis to Misbah everybody supported him yet he failed and has only himself to blame.

Sarfraz & Rizwan are comparable, Sharjeel is not in their league
 
RidiculousMan said:
Don't be so harsh on Sarfraz. At least he won us CT17 with his captaincy. I knew he was bad fit in T20Is. That I agree. Hiding behind bowlers
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He was a pragmatist that put the team first. That is why we won a tournament under his captaincy and weren’t being humiliated by minnows

With Rizzy watch us become rivals with Uganda and where his fans like you will cheer on his meaningless 50s and stupid acting
 
Hawkeye said:
Sharjeel - the king of hitting pace in Pakistan.

Nobody smashes the ball as well as him in the country. His bat speed and reflexes are phenomenal.

Absurd to compare him with pure accumulators.
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Sharjeel has a strike rate above 150 against India and England but only played 1 game.
 
Rizwan is a rubbish t20 bat and sharjeel a over hyped convinced criminal who failed when even given opportunities.
 
khyberlion said:
For rizwan it counts but for sarfaraz it doesn't at least be consistent for a min.
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What are you even yammering on about?

i was just correcting @RidiculousMan on sarfi not captaining 5 tournaments?

Sarfi captained 3.

Mate even if you're a long time lurker, you really need to read the room before responding
 
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khyberlion said:
You stated of Asia cup counts for sarfaraz , while stating rizwan flopped in Asia cup why is there a no question mark for rizwan?
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You stated of Asia cup counts for sarfaraz , while stating rizwan flopped in Asia cup why is there a no question mark for rizwan?

You're reading way too much into it and picking fights for the sake of picking fights.

I respect Sarfi, I do not respect Rizwan. If i wish to be more forgiving towards a captain who won ct 2017 and achieved no 1 rank ober a fraud opener who collapsed the entire t20 team then so be it.

You are no one to question my judgement.
 
mominsaigol said:
You stated of Asia cup counts for sarfaraz , while stating rizwan flopped in Asia cup why is there a no question mark for rizwan?

You're reading way too much into it and picking fights for the sake of picking fights.

I respect Sarfi, I do not respect Rizwan. If i wish to be more forgiving towards a captain who won ct 2017 and achieved no 1 rank ober a fraud opener who collapsed the entire t20 team then so be it.

You are no one to question my judgement.
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It doesn't make any sense
 
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Avg. 22 @SR133 after 21 games,age 35

Avg.48 @126 after 102 games, age32

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Take your pick

Both players have their clear roles , one is aggressor sorry hack aggressor, the other is accumulator aka slick accumulator.
 
Kianig89 said:
Avg. 22 @SR133 after 21 games,age 35

Avg.48 @126 after 102 games, age32

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Take your pick

Both players have their clear roles , one is aggressor sorry hack aggressor, the other is accumulator aka slick accumulator.
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What's a slick accumulator?
 
Kianig89 said:
The one who fulfils his role perfectly 🥰
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An accumulator in t20? Theirs no role that one can fulfil as an accumulator in t20.

Kohli in his prime wasn't an accumulator, By the time he became one, he was a rubbish failure in t20. He's also been a rubbish failure in test.

The only thing that saved him, was that he managed to stat pad in the final and bumrah managed to protect him, it covered up his failures throughout the cup and he retired afterwards anyway.

Similarly steve smith has been a failure in t20 and was kicked out of the cup because he's useless in t20.

We live in an era where accumulators are vanishing from t20 and can't feasibly exist.

So on which planet does an accumulator fulfil his role in t20? This isn't 2007-2009 anymore. KP, Gayle and Warner ended it in 2010.

Infact we lost asia cup 2022 final thanks to chacha's and rizzu's innings.
 
mominsaigol said:
An accumulator in t20? Theirs no role that one can fulfil as an accumulator in t20.

Kohli in his prime wasn't an accumulator, By the time he became one, he was a rubbish failure in t20. He's also been a rubbish failure in test.

The only thing that saved him, was that he managed to stat pad in the final and bumrah managed to protect him, it covered up his failures throughout the cup and he retired afterwards anyway.

Similarly steve smith has been a failure in t20 and was kicked out of the cup because he's useless in t20.

We live in an era where accumulators are vanishing from t20 and can't feasibly exist.

So on which planet does an accumulator fulfil his role in t20? This isn't 2007-2009 anymore. KP, Gayle and Warner ended it in 2010.

Infact we lost asia cup 2022 final thanks to chacha's and rizzu's innings.
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I already mentioned take your pick

Like different formations in football, cricket also has strategies and tactics.

There is an accumulator role in T20 if teams want to adapt it, Pakistan as prone to batting collapses have widely used accumulators starting from Shaoib Malik.

Thankfully cricket do not work according to your essays and false theories.
 
Forget Sharjeel the spot fixer, the streets will never forget that:

"Salman Butt was maturing into an ideal opener in T20 cricket"

with a career SR of 108.

And then these people have the gall to lecture us about not understanding white ball cricket. :facepalm:
 
Kianig89 said:
I already mentioned take your pick

Like different formations in football, cricket also has strategies and tactics.

There is an accumulator role in T20 if teams want to adapt it, Pakistan as prone to batting collapses have widely used accumulators starting from Shaoib Malik.

Thankfully cricket do not work according to your essays and false theories.
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First of football and cricket are separate sports, so you're commiting a false equivalent.

Secondly Malik played in an entirely different era. As I mentioned that said era is gone. Malik was useless In t20 during his 2016 to 2019 return lol, infact during the no 1 t20 saga, alot of people wanted malik gone and considered him the weakest link.

For example in the tri series final in 2018, although pakistan won thanks to fakhar's 91 of 46, pakistan failed to reach 200 due to Malik's 43 of 37, infact anchoring wasn't even needed, the team was in no stress lol.

Thankfully cricket do not work according to your essays and false theories.

what false theories? pakistan losing asia cup 2022 thanks to riz and chacha is a false theory?
 
mominsaigol said:
First of football and cricket are separate sports, so you're commiting a false equivalent.

Secondly Malik played in an entirely different era. As I mentioned that said era is gone. Malik was useless In t20 during his 2016 to 2019 return lol, infact during the no 1 t20 saga, alot of people wanted malik gone and considered him the weakest link.

For example in the tri series final in 2018, although pakistan won thanks to fakhar's 91 of 46, pakistan failed to reach 200 due to Malik's 43 of 37, infact anchoring wasn't even needed, the team was in no stress lol.

Thankfully cricket do not work according to your essays and false theories.

what false theories? pakistan losing asia cup 2022 thanks to riz and chacha is a false theory?
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So all the games Pakistan lost are Rizwans fault.
BTW to keep the post relevant which Grandpa league will Sharjeel be playing next
 
Kianig89 said:
So all the games Pakistan lost are Rizwans fault.
BTW to keep the post relevant which Grandpa league will Sharjeel be playing next
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So all the games Pakistan lost are Rizwans fault.

I never said that, this is not the first time you have strawmanned arguments. I have noticed this trait in you and observed it multiple times.

BTW to keep the post relevant which Grandpa league will Sharjeel be playing next

I didnt even bring up Sharjeel, i asked whats the meaning of a slick accumulator and you responded with one who fulfils his job and then i responded why accumulators in t20 are a thing in the past.

Their isnt a single t20 accumulator left besides maybe Jadeja? And he's also more or less done from t20.

Bavuma, Steve smith, Kohli, Williamson are all on their way out. Conway is defo gonna exit as well.

This game doesn't accommodate accumulators anymore.

Then you brought up Malik deapite the fact that you're not even aware of the fact that he was useless In t20 and was the biggest weak link in 2018 and really only made the side due to his bowling ability and gun fielding, as a batter alone he didn't make the cut and was even dropped for haris sohail in a few games?



 
mominsaigol said:
So all the games Pakistan lost are Rizwans fault.

I never said that, this is not the first time you have strawmanned arguments. I have noticed this trait in you and observed it multiple times.

BTW to keep the post relevant which Grandpa league will Sharjeel be playing next

I didnt even bring up Sharjeel, i asked whats the meaning of a slick accumulator and you responded with one who fulfils his job and then i responded why accumulators in t20 are a thing in the past.

Their isnt a single t20 accumulator left besides maybe Jadeja? And he's also more or less done from t20.

Bavuma, Steve smith, Kohli, Williamson are all on their way out. Conway is defo gonna exit as well.

This game doesn't accommodate accumulators anymore.

Then you brought up Malik deapite the fact that you're not even aware of the fact that he was useless In t20 and was the biggest weak link in 2018 and really only made the side due to his bowling ability and gun fielding, as a batter alone he didn't make the cut and was even dropped for haris sohail in a few games?
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As I said accumulators are used based on Teams preference, Pakistan with weak batting goes with an accumulator if only players like Sharjeel succeeded Pakistan would have banished accumulators.

But our rubbish batting ensures that we need an accumulator.
 
A slick accumulator is someone who strikes at 98 in World Cup Powerplays…and his team loses to USA
 
Rana said:
A slick accumulator is someone who strikes at 98 in World Cup Powerplays…and his team loses to USA
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Rauf leaked runs at the end , Amir bowled a rubbish super over , how does slick accumulator gets the blame for it
 
Kianig89 said:
Rauf leaked runs at the end , Amir bowled a rubbish super over , how does slick accumulator gets the blame for it
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The description I gave for ‘slick accumulator’ is fact.

Someone who strikes at 98 in World Cup powerplays…and his team loses to USA. Factually correct statement. You can cry all you want about it.
 
Rana said:
The description I gave for ‘slick accumulator’ is fact.

Someone who strikes at 98 in World Cup powerplays…and his team loses to USA. Factually correct statement. You can cry all you want about it.
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Azam Khan Usman Khan all your beloved hacks were playing that game what did they acheived
 
Kianig89 said:
I hope Rizwan as skipper has guts to ask for Sharjeel's inclusion

But guess what the Selectors are independent now!
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How are the selectors independent when Rizwan agreed to take the captaincy job providing he was given selection powers and more authority compared to the coach; in-fact Rizwan has taken over the previous role from Misbah except he will be the first player in history to captain, coach and be a selector simultaneously; I think this is a cause for his fanbase to offer nafl players in his honour tomorow inshaAllah @ Jummah we shall reconvene.
 
People have been waiting for Rizwan's downfall since the guy replaced Sarfraz. And now, he's the white ball captain and will likely become test captain as well...guess the wait continues.

It would be helpful for Sharjeel, if the guy could at the very least get selected in PSL and actually perform. But maybe that's asking for too much.
 
sweep_shot said:
I feel like Pakistan didn't use Sharjeel properly. He could've been a game changer.

Sharjeel is a natural hitter.
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Yeah as always blame everything on Pakistan!

The truth is that Sharjeel didnt use Sharjeel properly.

You will see him legends league in England next summer though.
 
Nabeel23 said:
Sarfraz ruined it for himself, he stopped caring about his own fitness and his batting form went down. If he was a performing captain, he would have not been dropped so he is only to blame.
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yawning clown who was hiding behind tail enders his performance dipped down and was kicked out of the team
 
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Rizwan is a thousand times better than Sharjeel in all formats.

Sharjeel’s delusional fans cannot defend his pathetic numbers in international cricket.

They can keep crying like they do in every thread. Who cares about their 0 cricketing knowledge.
 
mediocre, match fixer.

Sharjeel has literally zero redeeming qualities. He has to be the most unlikable cricketer in Pakistan history. How can someone like him have fans is beyond me.

Think of all the negative traits you can have a in a cricketer and you will find them in him.
 
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mominsaigol said:
So all the games Pakistan lost are Rizwans fault.

I never said that, this is not the first time you have strawmanned arguments. I have noticed this trait in you and observed it multiple times.

BTW to keep the post relevant which Grandpa league will Sharjeel be playing next

I didnt even bring up Sharjeel, i asked whats the meaning of a slick accumulator and you responded with one who fulfils his job and then i responded why accumulators in t20 are a thing in the past.

Their isnt a single t20 accumulator left besides maybe Jadeja? And he's also more or less done from t20.

Bavuma, Steve smith, Kohli, Williamson are all on their way out. Conway is defo gonna exit as well.

This game doesn't accommodate accumulators anymore.

Then you brought up Malik deapite the fact that you're not even aware of the fact that he was useless In t20 and was the biggest weak link in 2018 and really only made the side due to his bowling ability and gun fielding, as a batter alone he didn't make the cut and was even dropped for haris sohail in a few games?



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What strike rate is classed as a accumulator.
 
Kianig89 said:
As I said accumulators are used based on Teams preference, Pakistan with weak batting goes with an accumulator if only players like Sharjeel succeeded Pakistan would have banished accumulators.

But our rubbish batting ensures that we need an accumulator.
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Tame preferences mean nothing.

You're competing internationally. If you can't make a combination capable of beating international teams then you shouldn't bother playing.
 
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