Sufis have started the majority of innovations in Islam. Sufism is not part of Islam at all. There is Nothing called sufism.
Innovation is a big sin because those who do innovation are saying that either the prophet knew something is good and rewarding but he hid it from us or the prophet himself did not know that but these so-called sufis know it.
If you have a third angle, mention it.
Also , there is NO spreading of hatred , when you speak facts people will get offended. There is no solution to that. When you say La Ilaha Illlah , it means there is NO God Except Allah , that also offends many other religion people , so will you stop saying that ? In one sentence you are rejecting all Gods !!
Yes , I know no one can stop innovators from innovating in Deen , but prophet said if you see something wrong stop that with hands or by speech or at least have in your heart that it is wrong , we are following prophet and using speech to expose the innovation.
Moving on you said you are this day is gift from Allah swt, so the companions did not know that or did your sufis know more than the companions ? Kindly answer this point
Prophet said he fasts on Mondays because he was born and he received his first revelation. If you follow that logic , he fasted every week , so milad should be celebrated every week. You not even following that hadith !!!!!
And fasting is celebrating , in what parlance you equate them????
Whether Barelvi celebrates it or Sufi celebrates , or deobandi celebrates or salafi celebrates , it makes NO difference , an innovation is an innovation ! Its NOT about sects , its about the act.
Islam is not based on what I or you or scholars says , it is based on evidence my dear friend.
Here I give you a hadith for my point.
Salim bin Abdullah narrated that :
he had heard a man from Ash-Sham asking Abdullah bin Umar about Tamattu after Umrah until Hajj, so Abdullah bin Umar said: "It is lawful." The man from Ash-Sham said: "But your father prohibited it." So Abdullah bin Umar said: "Is the order to follow my father or is the order (to follow) for the Messenger of Allah?" The man said: "Rather it is for the Messenger of Allah." So he said: "Indeed the Messenger of Allah did it."
https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:824
Here someone asked Ibn Umar ( son of Umar ) about Tamattu after Umra. Ibn Umar said it was allowed. Then someone asked , but your father ( Umar ) prohibited it. Ibn Umar said that we are supposed to follow Muhammad SAW not Umar.
Do you know who Umar was? He was sabiqoon companion , part of badr , he was khulafa E rasheed , one of ashra Mubashra and yet his son saying that we need to follow the prophet , not Umar RA .
If Umar RA actions will be judged on quran and hadith , who are these scholars you are talking about !!!!!
Any more questions regarding this you are welcome.
As I mentioned I avoid to type in these kind of threads as the discussions get longer and longer and we often start talking about other things than than the actual topic. And I simply don't have time to follow up all the posts because talking about deen is not like talking about cricket, here you have to be very careful,
so this will be my last post in this thread.
Of course I am not comparing the scholars to Sayyiduna Umar (RA), you should also know that. But Scholars are the inheritors of prophets as it is mentioned in a famous Hadeeth (Related byTirmidhi, Abu Dawud, Nasa’i, Ibn Maja, Ahmad, Ibn Hibban, and others)
But you obviously have no clue about Sufism. Seems like you have seen random videos on YT from Pakistan where people are doing strange things and then come up with a conclusion on Sufism.
Sufism is not something new in Islam. Seems like you are more concerned about the name itself rather than understanding the actions. Sufism is a term later coined for a meaning that has alway been part of our religion. It refers to
purifcation (tazkiya) and spiritual excellens (ihsan). Scholars define sufism as sicnert turning to Allah SWT.
Allah SWT says in Quran:
"Just as We have sent to you a Messenger from amongst yourselves, reciting to you Our verses,
purifying you, teaching you the Book and the wisdom, and teaching you of that which you knew not.” [Qur’an; 02:151]
"By the soul and He who fashioned it. He then inspired it of its virtue and its vice. Successful indeed is the one who has
purified it. And at loss indeed is the one who soiled it.” [Qur’an; 91:7-10]
The purification mentioned in these verses and many other verses are what is understood by the science of sufism. Thus the essence of sufism is directly from the Qur’an and Sunna of the Prophet (may Allah bless him and give him peace).
However the word sufism was a term coined much later.
And like that you can write essays and books about this topic.
Coming back to Innovation and celebrating Mawlid; (Pasting directly writings from a realiable scholar):
The concept of “praiseworthy innovation” (bid`a hasana) is basically a specific form of applying a general sunna of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), in a manner not contrary to the principles of Prophetic guidance.
Thus, for example, having an annual conference or religious event on specific dates (for reasons of practicality, without deeming this specification religiously-expected) is a specific way of applying the general sunna of spreading religious guidance.
The same applies to approved-of forms of group dhikr (which is considered permitted or praiseworthy by a large body of mainstream scholarship): the general sunna of group dhikr (understood from a large number of Prophetic hadiths) is being applied in a specific way.
And so on.
However, the scholars look carefully at the soundness of the basis for such actions; the component parts; and the implications of the action, direct and indirect.
Celebrating the Birth of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)
In terms of the celebrating the Prophet’s birth, the basis of this is of two types:
[1] specific, from the sunna itself: the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) celebrated the day of the week in which he was born by fasting on Mondays–so why would celebrating the date of his birth, in permitted & sound ways, be wrong?
[2] general, from the call in the Qur’an and Sunna to express thankfulness and rejoicing in the blessing and gift from Allah that is our Beloved Messenger of Allah (peace & blessings be upon him & his folk).
Again, if we follow the recourse that Allah Most High has given us: returning matters we’re not clear of to the people of knowledge, then we see that the mawlid, for example, has been carefully considered and generally approved of right across the four schools of mainstream Islamic law.
If someone doesn’t feel comfortable with that, it is fine, but condemning a mainstream action approved by mainstream Islamic scholarship is the basis of division, and contrary to established principles. “There is no condemnation in matters of genuine difference.” (la inkara fi masa’il al-khilaf)
So Alhamdulillah, our scholars from Ahle-Sunnah wa'aljamaa' have made things easy for us to follow, so I am satisfied with it.
