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Should Misbah-ul-Haq be the all-format coach and Mohammad Rizwan the all-format captain for Pakistan?

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Pakistan has now lost 2-0 to Bangladesh and ik for a fact that England and South Africa will be Shan's final assignment as captain as his days are numbered now.

Gillespie has failed to produce results, Shan has failed as a captain, Kristen had a miserable outing in wc 2024, Babar failed in his 2nd outing in t20 2024 wc.

And sarfraz age wise, his days are numbered and won't be a long term solution, with pcb mostly giving him mentor roles for champions cup.

Rizwan has been your most consistent batsmen, Misbah was your most succesful test captain and both rizwan and Misbah are working side by side in the upcoming champions cup.

Popular opinion is to bring these 2 at the helm of things, so is it time to bring these 2 on and plan till 2027 wc?
 
TheSultan said:
Bro, it’s recommended not to relate your nightmares out loud.
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Misbah and rizwan are already side by side and 2 peas in a pod. Misbah is even mentioning the side rizzu is captaining for the champions cup.

And ik for a fact alot of people will be very very happy at this change. So why not. After all Misbah is Pakistan's greatest captain of all time with his era being Pakistan's greatest era ever. And rizwan is Pakistan's greatest keeper batsmen of all time.

2 mature and professional well spoken totally non sarcastic and non drama bazi and non controversial leaders side by side leading pakistan to glory for 2025 ct and 2027 wc. Match made in heaven.
 
Misbah isn’t a player anymore unless he’s going to be a non playing captain. If Misbah is coach I’d rather have Sarfraz as captain, maybe for 1-2 years and then hopefully by then someone else emerges to take on the captaincy. Riz as captain will be a disaster and Misbah as coach did not have a very successful tenure. What’s going to change this time?
 
offstump said:
Misbah isn’t a player anymore unless he’s going to be a non playing captain. If Misbah is coach I’d rather have Sarfraz as captain, maybe for 1-2 years and then hopefully by then someone else emerges to take on the captaincy. Riz as captain will be a disaster and Misbah as coach did not have a very successful tenure. What’s going to change this time?
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Misbah wrecked sarfi as captain lol, the pair won't work
 
Yaar assai umeeed nahy thy app say! Misbah will drive Pakistan cricket backwards. Haven’t we learnt from past? Misbah will bring his son Pirchi 2.0 and his son will ruin Pakistan even more. Misbah is not the answer for Pakistan.
 
And Waqar should be fast bowling coach , Afridi power hitting coach , Kamran Akmal keeping mentor , Ajmal spin bowling coach, Shoaib Malik batting coach, :moyo fielding coach.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
And Waqar should be fast bowling coach , Afridi power hitting coach , Kamran Akmal keeping mentor , Ajmal spin bowling coach, Shoaib Malik batting coach, :moyo fielding coach.
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Coach and chief Selector = Misbah ul Haq

Captain = Rizwan

Bowling coach = Waqar Younis

Keeping mentor = Umar Akmal

Batting coach = Ramiz Raja

Travel translator and press conference representator = Shan Masood

Fielding and Fitness coach = Azam Khan
 
mominsaigol said:
Pakistan has now lost 2-0 to Bangladesh and ik for a fact that England and South Africa will be Shan's final assignment as captain as his days are numbered now.

Gillespie has failed to produce results, Shan has failed as a captain, Kristen had a miserable outing in wc 2024, Babar failed in his 2nd outing in t20 2024 wc.

And sarfraz age wise, his days are numbered and won't be a long term solution, with pcb mostly giving him mentor roles for champions cup.

Rizwan has been your most consistent batsmen, Misbah was your most succesful test captain and both rizwan and Misbah are working side by side in the upcoming champions cup.

Popular opinion is to bring these 2 at the helm of things, so is it time to bring these 2 on and plan till 2027 wc?
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Lol misbah the guy who destroyed Pakistan cricket. He is the reason Pakistan is in this position.

He is the one who promoted this culture of selfishness. Pakistan is still suffering from his brand of cricket.

He is the Cancer of Pakistan cricket.He keeps coming back in new form every time.
 
followed said:
Lol misbah the guy who destroyed Pakistan cricket. He is the reason Pakistan is in this position.

He is the one who promoted this culture of selfishness. Pakistan is still suffering from his brand of cricket.

He is the Cancer of Pakistan cricket.He keeps coming back in new form every time.
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Misbah: You haven't seen the last of me 🫠
 
Mohraheem said:
Yaar assai umeeed nahy thy app say! Misbah will drive Pakistan cricket backwards. Haven’t we learnt from past? Misbah will bring his son Pirchi 2.0 and his son will ruin Pakistan even more. Misbah is not the answer for Pakistan.
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You never have a comment on Rizwan though?
 
Head Coach: Misbah
Deputy: Abdul Rehman
Bowling coach: Mushtaq Ahmed
Physio: Haider Azhar
Captain: Mohammad Rizwan


Dream team
 
followed said:
Lol misbah the guy who destroyed Pakistan cricket. He is the reason Pakistan is in this position.

He is the one who promoted this culture of selfishness. Pakistan is still suffering from his brand of cricket.

He is the Cancer of Pakistan cricket.He keeps coming back in new form every time.
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You sound confused. You hate Sarfaraz but you do realise, this culture of selfishness (as you say) produced by Misbah was done by forcefully removing Sarfaraz and going all out to promote Rizwan. Do you realise the confusion?
 
@mominsaigol

Is it possible to make sense of this:

“I absolutely hate Misbah’s guts. Everything he has done for Pakistan has been terrible….

Oh but I love Rizwan, he is superman”
 
Rana said:
You sound confused. You hate Sarfaraz but you do realise, this culture of selfishness (as you say) produced by Misbah was done by forcefully removing Sarfaraz and going all out to promote Rizwan. Do you realise the confusion?
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No I don't hate or love anyone. I like to call spade a spade.

I don't know what happened at that time but rizwan and babar's partnership did work for sometime especially in that T20 world cup where Pakistan beat India,where they give me and many fans so much happiness after that T20 world cup it all went downhill and they should have been dropped from t20is for their selfishness.

I consider both Zimbabar and rizwan the reason why Pakistan performed so badly in this 2024 T20 world cup.

Rizwan was the reason Pakistan lost against India and he was very bad in this T20 world cup.
As far as sarfraz is concerned that guy did well in 2017 champions trophy where he excelled in captaincy and Pakistan won the champions trophy other than that he has been abysmal in every format whether it's captaincy or batting.
 
Mohraheem said:
Rana bhai, one step at a time… let’s remove Fasssssaaaal ky jhaaar first. We can tackle Rizwan after
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Agreed bro, but I think the fasaad has already spread too much. It’s too late now.

One way or another, these leaches will continue to come back and leach from Pakistan cricket. It might take 3-4 decades for their influence to die down.
 
I don't really like Misbah as a coach. I thought he selected some B-grade cricketers.

But at least Misbah won home games. Under his captaincy and as coach, we never lost a game in the UAE. He turned the UAE into a fortress.
 
Rana said:
@mominsaigol

Is it possible to make sense of this:

“I absolutely hate Misbah’s guts. Everything he has done for Pakistan has been terrible….

Oh but I love Rizwan, he is superman”
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Yes because not everyone knows the story of Rizwan and how he entered and who brought him in so people who don't know the picture will not associate the 2 as one.

And tbf to rizzu, Misbah is a bigger bottler then he is.
 
mominsaigol said:
Yes because not everyone knows the story of Rizwan and how he entered and who brought him in so people who don't know the picture will not associate the 2 as one.
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This is understandable

I think those who are confused need to be educated. @followed in particular. His ideas about cricket are right, but I don’t think he quite understands how things work especially in this scenario
 
followed said:
No I don't hate or love anyone. I like to call spade a spade.

I don't know what happened at that time but rizwan and babar's partnership did work for sometime especially in that T20 world cup where Pakistan beat India,where they give me and many fans so much happiness after that T20 world cup it all went downhill and they should have been dropped from t20is for their selfishness.

I consider both Zimbabar and rizwan the reason why Pakistan performed so badly in this 2024 T20 world cup.

Rizwan was the reason Pakistan lost against India and he was very bad in this T20 world cup.
As far as sarfraz is concerned that guy did well in 2017 champions trophy where he excelled in captaincy and Pakistan won the champions trophy other than that he has been abysmal in every format whether it's captaincy or batting.
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Rizwan and babar performed once?

Go back and look at the scoreboards of the other games. Babar and rizwan stat padded and would have lost the games against nz and afghanistan.

Against NZ and Afghanistan Asif Ali pulled a miracle. You don't expect someone like asif to play such knocks.

You seriously think Pakistan of all teams was chasing 24 of 12 against afghani pacers? Asif just did a one hit wonder that day lol.

Similarly fakhar zaman's innings led to a high score against australia.

Babar and rizzu's innings have been masked as a result in 2021. Their strike rates were pathetic.

Again credit to them for dominating India, and credit to the entire team for gelling well however that's the issue.

Eventually the dosti yaari culture that these 2 set up would have caused things to break apart and reduce the forms of others as the whole team was being built to accommodate these 2 and make things look good.

Ans this is exactly what happened in 2022 when the batting was in shambles. The bowlers had to punch > their weight to get Pakistan this far.

But Eventually the bowling declined and now Pakistan is in the rut of Fakhar or bust.

Literally Pakistan has been reduced to One man miracle and that too only for odi lol
 
mominsaigol said:
Coach and chief Selector = Misbah ul Haq

Captain = Rizwan

Bowling coach = Waqar Younis

Keeping mentor = Umar Akmal

Batting coach = Ramiz Raja

Travel translator and press conference representator = Shan Masood

Fielding and Fitness coach = Azam Khan
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Rana said:
Head Coach: Misbah
Deputy: Abdul Rehman
Bowling coach: Mushtaq Ahmed
Physio: Haider Azhar
Captain: Mohammad Rizwan


Dream team
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Tactical analyst (Powerpoint): Mohammad Wasim
 
Asad T said:
I don't really like Misbah as a coach. I thought he selected some B-grade cricketers.

But at least Misbah won home games. Under his captaincy and as coach, we never lost a game in the UAE. He turned the UAE into a fortress.
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This thread is just a p take. No way Misbah is coming back and we don't play in UAE anymore.
 
Kroll said:
This thread is just a p take. No way Misbah is coming back and we don't play in UAE anymore.
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Idk, I've theorised misbah might come back after Gillespie is sacked.

But rizzu not being captain after 2023 is something that has shocked me to this day
 
I think this will happen inevitably. Except Misbah will become test coach only.

Think Gillespie has hurt the reputation of foreign coaches over this. Especially the manner of the first test where he opted not to pick a spinner and to some extent the declaration. Every foreign coach will now be argued against whether or not they know home/asian conditions well enough to succeed there. I don't think in their wildest dreams PCB would have thought we'd get clean swept by Bangladesh at home. Don't think it will make a difference in LOI as conditions aren't so big a factor, and the lure of bringing a more modern coach/turning our players into power hitters will still be strong.

Gillespie will have to now pull off upsets to keep his job in the long run (as will Masood). I don't think even winning against Sri Lanka, West Indies will be enough, nor drawing against the stronger sides. I really do think that if Gillespie and Masood don't pull off an upset against England now, they will be gone. And I really hope we do, and the team is fired up about doing so, you can't change the past unfortunately, but the opportunity is there to remedy it if they really want it.
 
100% agreed. @mominsaigol finally seeing the light. Misbah needs to be given a solid 5 years with complete control. Rizwan is our best bet for an all format captain although he doesn't have many years left. We need to start utilizing him ASAP
 
Rana said:
Yes, Mohammad Wasim is also one of their boys.

Media analysts and social media promoters: @shariqnoor @Major @Extra_Cover
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With all due respect mate by tagging me here you are implying that I'm advocating for Misbah to be back as coach which is completely untrue as I never mentioned that anywhere yet you are tagging me here, why 🤨.

On the contrary you should be the most content "Pakistan cricket fan" as you got your ideal cricket administration in place with your ideal coaching panel and most educated and hard-working captain at the helm. But as usual your posts are agitated in nature and frankly not sure why but if we talk anymore I bet you are going to bring in the mention of Rizwan and start ranting again. If there is any topic other than Rizwan you want to rant about then do share given you are most active one on here so people can listen.
 
mominsaigol said:
Pakistan has now lost 2-0 to Bangladesh and ik for a fact that England and South Africa will be Shan's final assignment as captain as his days are numbered now.

Gillespie has failed to produce results, Shan has failed as a captain, Kristen had a miserable outing in wc 2024, Babar failed in his 2nd outing in t20 2024 wc.

And sarfraz age wise, his days are numbered and won't be a long term solution, with pcb mostly giving him mentor roles for champions cup.

Rizwan has been your most consistent batsmen, Misbah was your most succesful test captain and both rizwan and Misbah are working side by side in the upcoming champions cup.

Popular opinion is to bring these 2 at the helm of things, so is it time to bring these 2 on and plan till 2027 wc?
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That will be the most logical thing to do.
 
FearlessRoar said:
It sounds like going back to the Stone Age. Cricket has evolved, and we need an aggressive style of coach and captain.
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If getting whitewashed by teams in home is evolving or current state then I'd rather see stone age Cricket from Pakistan.

As a Cricket and Pakistan team fan. I want Pakistan to at least win their home tests. It matters less to me if they do it in bazzball or old age style.
 
Extra_Cover said:
With all due respect mate by tagging me here you are implying that I'm advocating for Misbah to be back as coach which is completely untrue as I never mentioned that anywhere yet you are tagging me here, why 🤨.

On the contrary you should be the most content "Pakistan cricket fan" as you got your ideal cricket administration in place with your ideal coaching panel and most educated and hard-working captain at the helm. But as usual your posts are agitated in nature and frankly not sure why but if we talk anymore I bet you are going to bring in the mention of Rizwan and start ranting again. If there is any topic other than Rizwan you want to rant about then do share given you are most active one on here so people can listen.
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You wish that I would pick up on anything other besides Rizwan. That’s not going to happen. I’ve identified the core issue, and I will see to it that all of you understand it too. Zidd hai meri.
 
Rana said:
You wish that I would pick up on anything other besides Rizwan. That’s not going to happen. I’ve identified the core issue, and I will see to it that all of you understand it too. Zidd hai meri.
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No bro, you have to trust In the process. Rizwan as captain and Misbah as coach is the right way forward.

They are the true ambassadors of themselves and India errr I mean Pakistan cricket 👀.
 
mominsaigol said:
No bro, you have to trust In the process. Rizwan as captain and Misbah as coach is the right way forward.

They are the true ambassadors of themselves and India errr I mean Pakistan cricket 👀.
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It could well be my Shawshank Redemption moment when I have to swim through 5 miles at the end for my freedom.

Get it over and done with now.
 
Astagfirullah, i thought its another thread glorifying and lobbying again for his friend to return and be our savior once more.

What I said previously about Misbah remains true. The end result is always the same, he will dig a bigger hole than before.
 
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Rana said:
It could well be my Shawshank Redemption moment when I have to swim through 5 miles at the end for my freedom.

Get it over and done with now.
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Or you could be Morgan freeman and not give a @%# anymore 🫠
 
aukhan said:
Astagfirullah, i thought its another thread glorifying and lobbying again for his friend to return and be our savior once more.

What I said previously about Misbah remains true. The end result is always the same, he will dig a bigger hole than before.
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If you wanna know why I made this thread, it's because I genuinely think this will happen sooner or later and I stand by this claim.

Although I don't think people fell for my trolling this time around lol. But I am serious.

I genuinely believe rizwan will be appointed all format captain and Misbah as test coach because Shan will he sacked after England and sa assignment and Babar sealed his captaincy tomb this Bangla test series and 2024 wc, and shaheen ain't even mainstay anymore.
 
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Misbah can be a good option for tests but in the limited formats, he will ensure Pakistan end up playing qualifiers of the ICC events.
 
They should line up Misbah, Rizwan, Babar & also Shan because why not.
 
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So Mibah's trick of using old players is still working, and Mohammad Rizwan is proving him right again, showing that he is the best captain in the Pakistan cricket circuit.
 
I am against Misbah as coach, but to those against Rizwan as captain, what are the other options? Curious to hear. Who else would you like to see lead the team?
 
Can't believe Markhors are still unbeaten in the Champions One-Day Cup 2024! Got to give credit to Misbah-ul-Haq for his top-notch mentorship and Mohammad Rizwan for his tactical genius. They're making it look easy
 
FearlessRoar said:
Can't believe Markhors are still unbeaten in the Champions One-Day Cup 2024! Got to give credit to Misbah-ul-Haq for his top-notch mentorship and Mohammad Rizwan for his tactical genius. They're making it look easy
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They have the strongest team, the real battle will be to see how they do against stronger teams. Can rizzu handle that like pat cumminfs did in 2023 wc despite Australia not being the strongest and Australia being at the bottom of the table at one point?
 
There is no doubt that Rizwan is the best captain in Pakistan right now and also the best performing world class player. The other two world class players (Babar and Shaheen) are clearly out of form so they cannot be considered for captaincy at this point in time.
 
Mamoon said:
There is no doubt that Rizwan is the best captain in Pakistan right now and also the best performing world class player. The other two world class players (Babar and Shaheen) are clearly out of form so they cannot be considered for captaincy at this point in time.
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Shaheen isn't World-Class. With Shaheen it's not him being out of form. With him, it's a classic case of mean reversion. He was overperforming initially and now is reverting to the mean. Shaheen at the moment isn't even fit to lace Fazalhaq Farooqui's boots. Only Babar is world-class and is out of form.
 
surprise to see Markhor winning back to back matches as their squad initially didn’t seem very competitive.... maybe coach Misbah has been putting in significant effort to improve what seemed like a struggling team.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
surprise to see Markhor winning back to back matches as their squad initially didn’t seem very competitive.... maybe coach Misbah has been putting in significant effort to improve what seemed like a struggling team.
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Lol

Waqar and Misbah picked these squads purposely

You guys are all being taken for a ride.
 
Rizwan antics are very annoying but he should replace Shan the specialist captain in tests. In odis and t20s it should be someone else but not sure who but definitely not rizwan.
 
aukhan said:
Considering how manipulative these two are, I wont be shocked if it was planned to highlight their coaching abilities.
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The real test of a captain is when he has to lead a weaker team to glory. Or when he has to actually build the team into a world class team from the ground up.

That's why waugh, Dhoni, Pat Cummins, Pointing, Sarfraz(ct 2017), Younis Khan, Imran Khan, Eoin Morgan, Micheal Clarke and a few others are on a completly different level.

For example in 2011 many thought Australia would now go the west indies route but Clarke by 2015 created the 2nd strongest aussie team in history only behind classic Australia and dominated the tournament.

Misbah on the other hand was given a team that had reached the semi final of a wc 2011 cup, and were semi finalists of 2010 t20 cup, he came and collapsed the t20 side in 2012 so much so that he was forced to retire.

Then he collapsed the odi team to no 9 rank by 2015 and his successor azhar Ali in 2016.

Then he collapsed a ct winning squad and a no 1 ranked t20 side that had also defeated Australia in t20 and England in wc world cup in their own dens.

This is what these frauds do, They select unbalanced squads to make their own look good and when international cricket comes they fail miserably and then say their famous words "I can't do anything"

Oh bhai if you can't do anything then leave? Don't ever come back?
 
mominsaigol said:
Oh bhai if you can't do anything then leave? Don't ever come back?
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Misbah and Waqar don’t believe in leaving with dignity. They get kicked out and shamelessly return every 2-3 years. Im tired of watching these two destroy the team with their tried and tested failed methods.
 
aukhan said:
Misbah and Waqar don’t believe in leaving with dignity. They get kicked out and shamelessly return every 2-3 years. Im tired of watching these two destroy the team with their tried and tested failed methods.
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Yesterday one poster told me that Misbah approach was right after I made fun of Misbah for claiming "Yes we will look to anchor toll the 40th and try to finish well at 270"

Like bro, England and Australia will dominate you, ever since gilchrist and jaysuria came in the older days, the imran Khan approach became outdated. 1996 was the end of the so called anchor till 40th era?

This is why this tournament is such a fraudulent waste of time. Nothing will change as long as your mentors and captains are misbah, Rizwan, Waqar, Shadab etc etc.

Dolphins is the only team that's free from such bias but they've deliberately been given the weakest team overall, because someone like fakhar receiving sarfi mentorship would be criminal, fakhar needs misbah and rizwan mentorship, one which drops him for the likes of Abdullah shafiq, Bismillah khan or shoves him down at 4 to 7
 
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Misbah-ul-Haq has temporarily left his role as mentor of the Markhors team to attend pre-scheduled charity events in the United States.

Misbah obtained permission from PCB before departing, having informed them of his prior commitments during his appointment as mentor.
 
Rizwan is an obvious choice as captain but thats because we lack options. His persona of nice guy and all smiles is not what we need though. Corrupt Mohsin Naqvi will probably appoint some chalak Punjabi as captain. And God save us from Misbah !
 
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