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Should Mohammad Amir be picked for the World Cup?

Should Mohammad Amir be picked for the World Cup?

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Out of form, struggling, but still seen as a match-winner by some.

Do you think Mohammad Amir should be picked for the World Cup?
 
Sarfaraz doesn't even know if Amir is going to be picked or not. Pick him and play him in the first 2-3 matches if he performs then good but if he doesn't replace him with someone else.
 
Yes, should be picked and would be his last world cup though should he fail to deliver.
 
Yes definitely. Don’t see any other choice to replace him
1.Amir
2.Hasan
3.Shaheen
4.Hasnain|Junaid/Shinwari
5.Faheem
 
yes, he should be picked because of his experience in England and due to conditions too. You never know if he picks up his form during the world cup he can make the opposition work hard for runs.
 
Pakistani fans and their knee jerk reactions are unbelievable. Amir is still a World Class bowler in my opinion. He is lacking a good coach who can help him find his confidence and wicket taking abilities back, i dont see anyone but Wasim or Shoaib who can do that.

Amir is my first choice in Playing 11 in fast bowlers unit. He is still ten times better than Junaid and Shinwari, they can cost us a major game with their lack of knowledge in bowling at crunch times. God help us if he is not on the plane ✈️ to the UK.
 
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No, how many more times does he have to flop to be dropped from ODI's?
 
Yes. Hoping that he will get that spark back. He is still economical despite not taking many wickets. Hasan, Shinwari, Shaheen, Hasnain and Faheem are all too risky where run rate is concerned. Pakistan need him to control the runs so that Hasan Ali and Shaheen can attack. Ideally he would find form and also get some early wickets upfront.
 
Yes he should be although he may not play every match in the tournament. Not a guaranteed starter.
 
With due respect i have seen enough of Amir’s failures as a bowler. The only advantage he has is that he is a handy no.9 batsman.

Unless he shows some strength, piles in 10 kg of muscles and adds 5 kph to his pace, I do not see a future
 
Would I pick him? No. Will he be picked? Almost definitely

My pace attack for the World Cup

Hasan Ali
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Usman Shinwari
Junaid Khan
Faheem Ashraf
 
Yes yes yes. Give him a chance pls. Hes a match winner... i will not attend and pak wc matches if Amir is not picked in WC Squad!!
 
Hasan Ali
Mohammad Amir
Shaheen Shah Afridi

These guys are guaranteed selections.

Whether they make the final XI depends on form throughout the tournament. But none of these guys are getting left behind.
 
He doesn’t desevere to be there. But will be, because of a lack of options.
 
In terms of his performances he should be nowhere near the Pakistan team selection in any format except for the T20 but again his legend of being able to perform in the finals will make sure he is always picked.
 
MenInG said:
What makes him an automatic choice?
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Lack of bowlers that can swing it like him, even at mid 130s speed, if he gets swing, hes going to be lethal, plus his temparament and having bowled in big match and pressure situations should aid him. I feel the fact this is going to be his first (and maybe last?) world cup will give him that extra motivation to put in that 110%. On his day he is a match winner, and sometimes you need to trust the skill and go with the cliche' that form is temporary and class is permanent.
 
MenInG said:
What makes him an automatic choice?
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Because he has the X factor. Some sports players get that tag and he has that. He dismissed SRT in 2009, he dismissed Dilshan in the WT20 final, he crushed the Indian top order in CT final.

People have those dismissal pictured in their minds. Dilshan was unstoppable in 2009 amd just look how Amir worked him over in the final getting him for 0.

Which other PAK bowler hax such impact in 2 ICC event finals?
 
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So the matches against India in Asia Cup were small for this "big match player".
 
This big match player stuff is nonsense.

The best perform in all matches.
 
Saj said:
This big match player stuff is nonsense.

The best perform in all matches.
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Its not nonsense.

Its a proven phenomenon. Some athletes get boost to their performance during more significant encounters. And vice versa.
 
Saj said:
This big match player stuff is nonsense.

The best perform in all matches.
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No it isn't, wouldn't most people want to save themselves for something big rather than trying their best when the prize isn't that great. How can you doubt it when he has already shown that?

Mohammad Amir is the only player in the history of Pakistan cricket that played his part in delivering 2 ICC trophies for us, no other player has achieved that, even the greats of PCT. Doesn't it tell you something?

Why wouldn't we play him in the most prized tournament across the cricket world that is taking place in a country where he has gone through such peaks?
 
Saj said:
This big match player stuff is nonsense.

The best perform in all matches.
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It's more about him being mentally strong enough to play in big matches hence he's more likely to perform well. I still remember an indian batsman in the 2011 world cup who was so nervous that he nearly got himself run out twice and then on the third mistake he got run out. Amir likes pressure matches.
 
A 120 kph Amir is far better than Shinwari and Junaid combine.
Amir will keep it tight from 1 end because Hasan and Shaheen always leak runs.
 
Simply is not perform as expect and if thats the case for Amir or any other player he should be dropped and not be in the sqaud.
 
Would be a brave man to not pick him for the World Cup.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mohammad Amir's form has not been great of late in ODIs but he's the sort of bowler who can make a difference at the World Cup as he showed in the Champions Trophy final. It would be a huge gamble to not pick him for the World Cup <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CWC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CWC19</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1118202501575127041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Needs to be picked.

After the World Cup you can discard him if he is not good enough
 
Saj said:
This big match player stuff is nonsense.

The best perform in all matches.
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hope u didnt forget his performance in the CT2017 final... it is true that big match temperament not every one has...mahela who didnt perform until he scored the century in the CWC'11 final,
 
No. How can you even ask this question? There is no basis for this question. Lol.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
hope u didnt forget his performance in the CT2017 final... it is true that big match temperament not every one has...mahela who didnt perform until he scored the century in the CWC'11 final,
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Lol any bowler can win you matches when the target is 340.

So now you want Amir to be carried to the finals so that he can perform, won't happen in next world cup where Pakistan won't reach the semis. I see your excuse is ready, Amir couldn't perform all tournament because team didn't reach the finals.
 
Spoken with a few guys close to Mohammad Amir and they are genuinely worried about his selection for the World Cup, which wasn't the case a few weeks ago.
 
Saj said:
Spoken with a few guys close to Mohammad Amir and they are genuinely worried about his selection for the World Cup, which wasn't the case a few weeks ago.
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This may sound dumb but in the xi or the squad as a whole?
Coz imo it's impossible that Amir won't get selected.
 
Doesn't deserve it in my opinion. After all the support he's been given to come back in the team, he just hasn't pulled his socks up and given it his all. In fact, comes across as a bit chicken hearted in recent times. However, it is likely he will be on the plane due to the hype so the fan boys need not worry.
 
Take him but don’t make him your key quick without any performance. He should be rotated with shinwari. And if he fails to perform as well or better, then he should sit on the bench during the key games.
 
He's played all his best cricket in England,both pre & post ban.

If he plays like he usually does in England he is a much winner & the team can threaten for the cup. Without him in form I don't see Pakistan bowling attack wrong enough to challenge.
 
wrongun said:
He's played all his best cricket in England,both pre & post ban.

If he plays like he usually does in England he is a much winner & the team can threaten for the cup. Without him in form I don't see Pakistan bowling attack wrong enough to challenge.
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8 ODI games in England for 9 wickets at an average of 38.33. Doesn't look like a world beater. His only crowning glory was that CT 2017 final. I give him that. Other than that he is a mediocre bowler in ODIs.
 
He also performs well in that CT against Lankans with both ball and bat.
Who will be his replacement?
1) Shinwari: Always bowl rubbish when it matters the most or always bowls rubbish when there is a little bit of pressure.
2) Husnain: A boy with 2 match experience ( 1 wicket) will be good enough at the WC stage?
Husnain just bowl fast with no swing, seam moment etc
 
Tiger96 said:
Lol any bowler can win you matches when the target is 340.

So now you want Amir to be carried to the finals so that he can perform, won't happen in next world cup where Pakistan won't reach the semis. I see your excuse is ready, Amir couldn't perform all tournament because team didn't reach the finals.
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Well ya any team could defend but not against the formidable Indian batting unit especially on a ind vs pak match. Even when six down, Hardik pandya was still looking to chase down the target by just hitting sixes.

If Indian batsmen especially the top 3 had given some respect to Amir’s swing bowling they would have chased down the target.. they have did it number of times before outside India even against SENA teams. Chasing 340 India can do it. Taking the top 3 out cheaply helped pak win irrespective of the target.

I agree he is not in form at the moment, I still believe he will find his rhythm in England soon and will hit peak at the right time, and they should select him. Imagine if both SSA and Amir both swing from both ends followed by hasan. I would like to add Abbas in the squad to play him when it is overcast conditions
 
For me the question is as simple as this:

Given the assumption that Shaheen Afridi and Hasan Ali are the 2 confirmed ones,
Who would you replace Amir with?

Shinwari? I would have Amir over him any day of the week . .
Junaid? You can argue one way or the other . . but both haven't been on top of their games . .
Hasnain? He has hardly played . . He can be a wild card entry as a 4th pick in the bowling quartet . . not a 3rd pick . . but definitely not a replacement for Amir given the amount of cricket he has played . .

So . . I think there is no option but to pick Amir . . and hope for the best!
 
ask_analyse_act said:
Well ya any team could defend but not against the formidable Indian batting unit especially on a ind vs pak match. Even when six down, Hardik pandya was still looking to chase down the target by just hitting sixes.

If Indian batsmen especially the top 3 had given some respect to Amir’s swing bowling they would have chased down the target.. they have did it number of times before outside India even against SENA teams. Chasing 340 India can do it. Taking the top 3 out cheaply helped pak win irrespective of the target.

I agree he is not in form at the moment, I still believe he will find his rhythm in England soon and will hit peak at the right time, and they should select him. Imagine if both SSA and Amir both swing from both ends followed by hasan. I would like to add Abbas in the squad to play him when it is overcast conditions
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So how many times has India chased 340 runs or more outside Asia? Give me a couple of instances as you say.
 
No.

Should now be getting a well earned "rest" that he has been asking for last 2 years. Hungrier bowlers who take international matches much more seriously are waiting.
 
Saj said:
Out of form, struggling, but still seen as a match-winner by some.

Do you think Mohammad Amir should be picked for the World Cup?
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Even if he does not gets wickets. He can contain, he never goes for big runs (like Shinwari ). If one bowler stops runs then others like Shaheen Shah Afridi can go for all out Attack . I expect him to at least put in 2 good performances. Other choices are not so good to keep him out of the 15.
Plus he can bat a bit and can come handy in a tight situation like the Champions trophy Srilanka match.
 
I am wondering what the final squad for World Cup will look like. I mean somebody is bound to be dropped after the England Odi's. Due to being out of form but on a pretense of Injury or Fitness.
 
Not that simple a choice is it? Will his past record tilt the balance in his favour?
 
Spoken to a friend of his and he's saying Amir is not in the squad.

However a meeting is being held to discuss the final spot between Amir, Hasnain and Junaid.
 
Saj said:
Spoken to a friend of his and he's saying Amir is not in the squad.

However a meeting is being held to discuss the final spot between Amir, Hasnain and Junaid.
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Oh my goodness!!
The worst part about that is that that means Shinwari is selected!! That is ridiculous!!!!!!! I'd take Amir, Hasnain and Junaid over Shinwari!
 
Also, even if Amir isn't in the 15, he will be in the 17 who will travel to England . . so still a chance that he can make the squad (if not selected)
 
Its a good chance for us a cricketing nation to crush this cult following tradition by axing Amir. Its merit vs cult. Inzamam thinks he is so called religious, lets see if he can prove it my opting for merit and dropping Amir.
 
Saj said:
Spoken to a friend of his and he's saying Amir is not in the squad.

However a meeting is being held to discuss the final spot between Amir, Hasnain and Junaid.
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Come on. I'd take Junaid over amir anyday. Junaid has a lot more experience of English conditions and he has variations unlike Amir who bowls 130k dollies.
 
NauV said:
Oh my goodness!!
The worst part about that is that that means Shinwari is selected!! That is ridiculous!!!!!!! I'd take Amir, Hasnain and Junaid over Shinwari!
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If this is true it still doesn't matter. This Just means Amir will get possibly 5 odis against england to prove his worth. If he does well then he'll go. If he doesn't then tough luck.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
If this is true it still doesn't matter. This Just means Amir will get possibly 5 odis against england to prove his worth. If he does well then he'll go. If he doesn't then tough luck.
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I don't care as much about Amir as I do about Shinwari! Shinwari can do NOTHIng with the ball! And he will get clobbered in England!
 
NauV said:
I don't care as much about Amir as I do about Shinwari! Shinwari can do NOTHIng with the ball! And he will get clobbered in England!
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He's a bit brainless true. But if he really is THAT bad he'll be found out in the 5 odis and the practice matches.
 
TV reports, their 'inside' rumour is that Mohammed Amir has been dropped from WC squad.

But they implied he will be selected for England ODI series and could make his way into WC squad if he performs exceptionally -- now sure how that works, can you replace a player for a reason other than injury ?
 
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No Amir in the squad. Abid is in according to reports. Finally common sense has prevailed if this is true
 
This is too good to be true. PCB has fought tooth and nail to bring back Amir into International Cricket again don't think they will not consider him for the biggest tournament ever.
 
Majid Khan said:
TV reports, their 'inside' rumour is that Mohammed Amir has been dropped from WC squad.

But they implied he will be selected for England ODI series and could make his way into WC squad if he performs exceptionally -- now sure how that works, can you replace a player for a reason other than injury ?
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Teams can make changes to the squad till May 23rd. After that it will only be for injuries.
 
I'm glad he's finally been dropped. However, why is Mohammad Hasnain there? And not UKS?
 
giri26 said:
8 ODI games in England for 9 wickets at an average of 38.33. Doesn't look like a world beater. His only crowning glory was that CT 2017 final. I give him that. Other than that he is a mediocre bowler in ODIs.
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Test matches, he was sensational.
 
Man who won the second most important cricketing glory of Pakistan history is not picked to play in same format at same place just 2 years later.

Just some Pakistan things.
 
JattMaula said:
Man who won the second most important cricketing glory of Pakistan history is not picked to play in same format at same place just 2 years later.

Just some Pakistan things.
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There is nothing Pakistani abt it.Its more of Australian type.It was Pakistani if Amir was picked
 
hafeezrocks said:
This is too good to be true. PCB has fought tooth and nail to bring back Amir into International Cricket again don't think they will not consider him for the biggest tournament ever.
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That was because they believed he would come back as a world class bowler. Things right now are very different. Going by his current form and his overall performance since his return, no way he deserves to play the World Cup.
 
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