Should Muslims around the world be afraid of Trump's term as president of the USA?

[MenInG]

Lots of discussions but lets see where we stand. Obviously not all who vote here will live in USA but it is interesting to see the overall result . So a simple question.

 

[jeetu]

Everyone should be afraid of Trump's presidency.

 

[www787]

not trump, but his supporters in US.

 

[Tera Gawaandi]

Things could not be worse, Hillary has set a very high benchmark.

 

[Markhor]

If he plans on tearing up the Iran deal, declares Jerusalem the undivided capital of Israel as he said in his AIPAC speech, reintroduce torture and calls for drastic curtailing of Muslim immigration into the US - then yes.

 

[keyser]

I don't get why its fine for Muslim countries to allow any sort of immigration rules but its an issue if Americans want to change their rules.

The media has lied and scared existing Muslims living in the US into fearing they will be deported. This wont happen.

 

[Pakistanian]

It's against our faith to be afraid of anything other than God. Will Trump be bad for Muslims? most likely - Will he be worse than any of the previous? That's not a very a high benchmark to beat.

 

[Saeed]

No. Some Muslims should be celebrating his win i.e. Yemenis. I hope he withdraws/reduces support for Saudis. What Saudis are doing in Yemen is absolute disgrace and current administration is supporting that. He might also withdraw from Afghanistan, which is a good news for Pakistan but bad news for Afghanistan.

 

[MenInG]

If Trump's policies result in harm to Muslims who are non-combatants then I would be worried too

 

[Slog]

Around the world? Maybe America itself is a genuine question but around the world?

As of yet he hasn't talked about killing innocent Pakistanis in drone strikes and will find it very hard to top the war criminal obamas exploits in that aspect

 

[AlphaFighter]

Maybe Muslims in the US, not Muslims outside the US. I believe he has already begun the process of backtracking on his campaign promises.

 

[MenInG]

Around the world? Maybe America itself is a genuine question but around the world?

As of yet he hasn't talked about killing innocent Pakistanis in drone strikes and will find it very hard to top the war criminal obamas exploits in that aspect

unless you consider Iranian muslims or Shias as not Muslim, I would think their is a problem with what Trump and his local "friends" will espouse

 

[Suleiman]

Overreaction. Understandable by those who live outside US and are fed this by numerous media outlets.

Not the right tool for the job, but a tool all the same in more than 1 way.

Won't change much, and people will forget all about this in about a year's time.

 

[Adil_94]

Maybe American Muslims. But worldwide particualrly in the M.E if Trump is actually going to pursue an isolationist foreign policy after "ISIS have been crushed" it could be a good thing for the region. Unlike the warmongering Hawk Clinton who wanted to extend a no fly zone over Syria and let that collapse to Islamists just like Libya.

 

[The_KING]

Erm no. Overreaction much from the Muslims around the world about Trump becoming the president.

 

[hiyuo]

unless you consider Iranian muslims or Shias as not Muslim, I would think their is a problem with what Trump and his local "friends" will espouse

Errr....why wouldn't he consider Shias as muslims?

 

[Bilal7]

Have faith in Allah and don't fear an orange-faced man with tiny hands.

 

[HussainRx8]

Muslims around the world should be afraid of their own leaders. Saudi-Iran rivalry has disintegrated whatever little unity Muslims had.

 

[Syed1]

Those living in the States have a reason to be apprehensive, but people living in places like Pak, Malaysia, Indonesia, Turkey do not have alot to worry about. However, if you are a Muslim living in the Middle East then the situation is going to get a whole lot more complicated for you.

Trump is openly going to back Israel and bomb ISIS (talks of even sending troops in). This will further aggravate the tense situation in the ME.

 

[Syed1]

Muslims around the world should be afraid of their own leaders. Saudi-Iran rivalry has disintegrated whatever little unity Muslims had.

Please remove from your mind this delusion of "Muslim Ummah", this only exists in the minds of Pakistanis.

Every country looks after her own interests first and foremost.

 

[Syed1]

Errr....why wouldn't he consider Shias as muslims?

Well there are some Mullah types that openly call Shias as Kafirs. For these Mullahs everybody is a Kafir unless he or she is not following exactly their brand of Islam.

 

[HussainRx8]

Please remove from your mind this delusion of "Muslim Ummah", this only exists in the minds of Pakistanis.

Every country looks after her own interests first and foremost.

Why? Yes, countries look after their own interest - hence, my wish for an economic community.

As someone who's a social scientist, I think an economic community among Muslim countries is a Pareto efficient outcome. It's a positive sum proposition.

 

[HussainRx8]

Not to mention we live in a globalized world. I suggest you revise your primitive, tribal mindset.

 

[Justcrazy]

Muslims should be afraid of Allah swt , no one else.

 

[Syed1]

Why? Yes, countries look after their own interest - hence, my wish for an economic community.

As someone who's a social scientist, I think an economic community among Muslim countries is a Pareto efficient outcome. It's a positive sum proposition.

You are talking about an "economic community" and here Muslims have been fighting for centuries on whether to pray haath baand ke ya haath chor ke.

Please come out of the book world and into the real world.

 

[Saeed]

Muslims around the world should be afraid of their own leaders. Saudi-Iran rivalry has disintegrated whatever little unity Muslims had.

Well said. If we are progress forward we will have to get out of Saudi-Iranian bubble. Hopefully Pakistan will someday take an action against Saudi funded organizations and Khomeini loyaltists.

 

[Bilal7]

Please remove from your mind this delusion of "Muslim Ummah", this only exists in the minds of Pakistanis.

Every country looks after her own interests first and foremost.

You do realize this is not a Pakistani concept but an Islamic one, right? As in, the Prophet (PBUH) called us an Ummah.

Of course, no one actually practices this anymore but we should be encouraging people to care about their brothers and sisters in faith all over the globe, not discouraging people from it. The best times for Muslims have always been when there has been unity among the people.

 

[Saeed]

You are talking about an "economic community" and here Muslims have been fighting for centuries on whether to pray haath baand ke ya haath chor ke.

Please come out of the book world and into the real world.

They have been fighting because we have nations like Saudia and Iran. They divide people along sectarian lines just like you're trying to divide people. He is saying soemthing good so stop trying to quiet him down. We will eventually have to work with other people, especially our Afghan brothers.

 

[Saeed]

You do realize this is not a Pakistani concept but an Islamic one, right? As in, the Prophet (PBUH) called us an Ummah.

Of course, no one actually practices this anymore but we should be encouraging people to care about their brothers and sisters in faith all over the globe, not discouraging people from it. The best times for Muslims have always been when there has been unity among the people.

We should care about everyone, not just Muslims. The concept is good though.

 

[Syed1]

You do realize this is not a Pakistani concept but an Islamic one, right? As in, the Prophet (PBUH) called us an Ummah.

Of course, no one actually practices this anymore but we should be encouraging people to care about their brothers and sisters in faith all over the globe, not discouraging people from it. The best times for Muslims have always been when there has been unity among the people.

I know this is an Islamic concept, but Muslims around the world do not give any heed to it other Pakistani Muslims.


If Islamic nations held the Ummah in such high regard, then you won't have a situation where Egypt and Turkey have trade volumes with Israel running into the billions all the while Israel continues to bomb and harass the poor Palestinians.

 

[Bilal7]

I know this is an Islamic concept, but Muslims around the world do not give any heed to it other Pakistani Muslims.


If Islamic nations held the Ummah in such high regard, then you won't have a situation where Egypt and Turkey have trade volumes with Israel running into the billions all the while Israel continues to bomb and harass the poor Palestinians.

Like I said, just because it isn't being practiced today doesn't mean that we forget it entirely. If that poster supports a united Muslim Ummah, that is a good thing. Why do you want Pakistan to follow Saudia, Egypt and Iran? Why not be better than them?

We should care about everyone, not just Muslims. The concept is good though.

You care about your family first and foremost. But of course, caring about all of humanity should definitely be practiced as well.

 

[MrBrownstone]

When has there ever been a United Ummah? Even in South Asia the Lodhis, Mughals, Durranis, Nader Shah were busy slaughtering each other and didn't care about a shared religion.

The fact is that most people in the world care about ethnicity, culture, language along with religion as being a uniting factor. Religion itself is never enough especially if you are a religion that has a huge number of followers and made up of lots of different ethnicities.

Put it this way, will a Gulf Arab let his daughter marry a Pakistani? Will a Pakistani let his daughter marry a Somailian?

Whilst it is nice to be united you also have to live in the real world and also have some self respect.

 

[HussainRx8]

You are talking about an "economic community" and here Muslims have been fighting for centuries on whether to pray haath baand ke ya haath chor ke.

Please come out of the book world and into the real world.

Your thinking is shockingly superficial. You have serious comprehension issues. I suggest you read my posts in totality. I never claimed that Muslims are a part of Ummah.

Book vs. real world? What're you even talking about?

 

[PakLFC]

Arab's and Muslim's in the USA should and are terrified of what he may do. Most Pakistanis don't care about him as the sub continent is very different to the Arab world. More then any other group American people as a whole should be afraid of this man's logic and hate of non-white communities. Mexican's and Black's in the USA seem to be his prime targets perhaps even more then Muslim people.

 

[WebGuru]

 

[Square Drive]

Yes.

Can't believe so many people are saying no.

He will cause WW3.

 

[Yossarian]

Should Muslims around the world be afraid of Trump's term as president of the USA?

Lots of discussions but lets see where we stand. Obviously not all who vote here will live in USA but it is interesting to see the overall result . So a simple question.

Yes. But not of Trump himself, rather the people who he appears to be ready to put in prominent positions.
Some of these include:

Kris Kobach
Steve Bannon
John Bolton
Rudolph W. Giuliani
Newt Gingrich
Stephen Hadley

The team around Trump is going to make George Bush's team of Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld & co look like Boy Scouts.

 

[Rayyman]

I think life would be worse for Non-American Muslims if Hilary was president. She is soo Pro-Israel.

 

[saeedhk]

Nope. He is an anti-war person; he is against US interventions in the Middle East. He said that the U.S is responsible for the chaos in the Middle East.

He will prove to be a better president than the hawkish Hillary for Muslims.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Not a hard decision I would have thought, remove the 'radical attire' if it means living safely. While that letter doesn't represent ordinary Americans, it only takes one nut like the fellow who killed Jo Cox to commit an atrocity.

 

[Markhor]

Trump’s conflicts of interest continue to mount, he registered 8 companies in Saudi Arabia during the presidential campaign.

What happened to the "non-corrupt" scourge of the establishment who was going to stand up to the Saudis ?

 

[Markhor]

Naftali Bennett - "With President elect Trump, the era of a Palestinian state is over."

http://www.newsweek.com/israeli-min...mp-victory-end-palestinian-state-518866?amp=1

Trump's victory is an opportunity for Israel to immediately retract the notion of a Palestinian state in the center of the country, which would hurt our security and just cause,” said Bennett, leader of the far-right Jewish Home party.

“This is the position of the president-elect... The era of a Palestinian state is over,” Bennett added.

Some may want to re-evaulate their vote on this thread's poll.

 

[Markhor]

Nope. He is an anti-war person; he is against US interventions in the Middle East. He said that the U.S is responsible for the chaos in the Middle East.

He will prove to be a better president than the hawkish Hillary for Muslims.

This take aged well.

 

[Stewie]

Trump is bad for humanity in general.. not just muslims... he is very erratic and selfish

 

[Pakistanian]

This take aged well.

[MENTION=48598]saeedhk[/MENTION] takes are usually wrong, he has a superficial surface level understanding of most topics discussed on here lol.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

[MENTION=48598]saeedhk[/MENTION] takes are usually wrong, he has a superficial surface level understanding of most topics discussed on here lol.

Usually displays alarmingly high levels of self hatred as well, although that maybe through no fault of his own. Often people who grow up in difficult or abusive surroundings display these symptoms.