Should performances in the upcoming PSL be used to pick the T20 World Cup side for Pakistan?

[MenInG]

Surely this tournament must be the ultimate test of readiness for the World Cup for Pakistan cricketers?

The probables for the World Cup should be picked from the best performers from this tournament - in fact let that be known to the players and see if that creates the competition for places that will ultimately benefit Pakistan?

 

[Ronaldo7]

Yes

We desperately need some power hitters

 

[Hawkeye]

T20 squad is mostly settled.

Only some spots need better players. Or replacements.

1. Openers
Kami and Sharjeel are need of the hour. We don't have any other dynamic openers who can give us quick starts.

2. Middle/Late order hitter
Malik is not the guy. Will be our worst player in Aus, he cannot play pace.

Umar Akmal or someone else capable of hitting pace needs to brought in. PSL can be used for it.

Imad Wasim will also be quite useless with his darting on Aus pitches.

Bowling is well settled and will be the best attack in Aus.

 

[Markhor]

No, this foolish policy of propelling PSL performers into the national team has been a flop.

Anyone can look a million dollars in a four week tournament but doesn't mean they can sustain that level over a long period of time. Asif Ali is a prime example.

When folks like Kamran Akmal and Ahmed Shehzad top the PSL batting charts that tells you everything about the standard of this competition.

 

[Hawkeye]

No, this foolish policy of propelling PSL performers into the national team has been a flop.

Anyone can look a million dollars in a four week tournament but doesn't mean they can sustain that level over a long period of time. Asif Ali is a prime example.

When folks like Kamran Akmal and Ahmed Shehzad top the PSL batting charts that tells you everything about the standard of this competition.

Ok, Shehzad never topped the charts. Not in domestic neither in PSL.

Yes, let's come to domestic. Kami was one of the best openers in the new domestic season. Thoroughly deserves his chance as per your logic.

And based on merit too. It's not like we have settled openers. We do actually need him. Sharjeel/Kami/Fakhar.

Or do you really want Imam?

 

[MenInG]

No, this foolish policy of propelling PSL performers into the national team has been a flop.

Anyone can look a million dollars in a four week tournament but doesn't mean they can sustain that level over a long period of time. Asif Ali is a prime example.

When folks like Kamran Akmal and Ahmed Shehzad top the PSL batting charts that tells you everything about the standard of this competition.

Ok then what is the value of PSL for Pakistan cricket? Should we question that?

 

[Barragan]

The answer is very obvious, yes!

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Ok then what is the value of PSL for Pakistan cricket? Should we question that?

Because PSL is meant to provide a cash cow that the PCB can milk and then use that to k vest in domestic cricket and cricket setup / infrastructure across the country. It should never be used to judge quality.

 

[Mamoon]

There is no possible XI in Pakistan that can win the World T20. We are a very average side whose real ranking should be 5th or 6th.

Let’s stick with the same “number 1” team that will have no excuses when they get humiliated in the WT20s.

 

[MenInG]

There is no possible XI in Pakistan that can win the World T20. We are a very average side whose real ranking should be 5th or 6th.

Let’s stick with the same “number 1” team that will have no excuses when they get humiliated in the WT20s.

Have you read Post #1 or is this a copy paste from some other thread? Because its not what I am asking in Post#1

 

[Mamoon]

Have you read Post #1 or is this a copy paste from some other thread? Because its not what I am asking in Post#1

Please read the second line. The answer is that no, we should not meddle with the “number 1” squad because it is important that this “number 1” squad gets a reality-check in the upcoming World T20s.

 

[MenInG]

Please read the second line. The answer is that no, we should not meddle with the “number 1” squad because it is important that this “number 1” squad gets a reality-check in the upcoming World T20s.

Then what was the reason for the first line?

 

[ChTab]

T20 squad is mostly settled.

Only some spots need better players. Or replacements.

1. Openers
Kami and Sharjeel are need of the hour. We don't have any other dynamic openers who can give us quick starts.

2. Middle/Late order hitter
Malik is not the guy. Will be our worst player in Aus, he cannot play pace.

Umar Akmal or someone else capable of hitting pace needs to brought in. PSL can be used for it.

Imad Wasim will also be quite useless with his darting on Aus pitches.

Bowling is well settled and will be the best attack in Aus.

Pakistan probably the only country where they will allow you to play for country even after match fixing & it seems like it's not a massive thing for Pakistani fans this really shows the mentality of most peoples in Pakistan who are corrupt & won't think twice when they get a chance of doing any sort of corruption . If Amir wasn't allowed a come back Sharjeel might have not done the fixing. So please for sake of Pakistan cricket keep all these fixers away.

 

[ads101]

Yes but only performers who have excelled, preferably in multiple seasons.

We've had a few bowlers doing well, Shadab, Hasan Ali, Faheem etc.

I hate when some players are labelled PSL picks when they hardly did anything in PSL. Generally those who have actually consistently done well in PSL have been decent/good in PSL. If we look at the players who have dominated in PSL it's quite a small pool players, the majority also doing well in internationals. In addition there's quite a few players who do well in domestic LO and T20s but not in PSL, because they struggle to play at the higher standard.

 

[Hasan123]

Using the PSL as a guide for T20 selection is fine.

 

[MMHS]

Surely this tournament must be the ultimate test of readiness for the World Cup for Pakistan cricketers?

The probables for the World Cup should be picked from the best performers from this tournament - in fact let that be known to the players and see if that creates the competition for places that will ultimately benefit Pakistan?

Should be, but as a guide line to identify “T20” type players, both with bat & ball. Using PSL stats as the benchmark without putting context could be misleading, as the context/venue is different - selectors should use PSL to sort out T20 players pool among best performers, then use judgement. Also, stats often gives wrong picture because there are 6 teams - some batsmen piling up numbers at PSL from 1-2-3, then picked for PCT to bat at 5-6 will be wrong, as the positional challenges are different. In terms of bowling, I am sure Imad & Nawaz will be among top bowlers, but .....

PSL’s ultimate purpose is not as a scouting tool, rather a money making machine that should bring much needed cash for PCB, and keep mass population interested in cricket- but for T20 only, it should be used as a tool selectively.

 

[topspin]

No, this foolish policy of propelling PSL performers into the national team has been a flop.

Anyone can look a million dollars in a four week tournament but doesn't mean they can sustain that level over a long period of time. Asif Ali is a prime example.

When folks like Kamran Akmal and Ahmed Shehzad top the PSL batting charts that tells you everything about the standard of this competition.

I usually agree with the vast majority of your views but on this occasion you are wrong.

PSL is Pakistan's premier domestic limited overs competition. The other white ball competitions are of a much lower standard because there are an excessive number of teams who compete in these tournaments, so the inferior end of talent pool are not filtered out (as we see in PSL).

 

[Forum363]

Yes, but with certain exceptions.

Kami, Umar Akmal, Shehzad and a few others should be told clearly today that they have been given sufficient chances at the international level and have let Pakistan down repeatedly. So even if they score 1000 runs in the PSL, they will be no where near the World Cup squad.

Anyone else is fair game.

 

[CricketDon]

Yes, but with certain exceptions.

Kami, Umar Akmal, Shehzad and a few others should be told clearly today that they have been given sufficient chances at the international level and have let Pakistan down repeatedly. So even if they score 1000 runs in the PSL, they will be no where near the World Cup squad.

Anyone else is fair game.

So you’re banning these three players?

 

[Rudi hater]

Then what was the reason for the first line?

I am sure you know this guy is all postive about Pakistan's side throughout his posting life on PP. If Pakistan wins his verdict is, its a fluke, if Pakistan produce a fast bolwer well he is not talented. Pakistan won the ICC trophy and he was saying they got lucky, Pakistan won a test match in England it was a fluke, Pakistan won t20 in England it was sheer luck and Sri Lanka was unlucky. That sums up his views on Pak team. The guy is trolling here, I dont mind critcising the side but go OTT is bit childish.

 

[Forum363]

So you’re banning these three players?

From International cricket - absolutely.

I guess with Shehzad, he is still reasonably young and incredibly fit so he could potentially make a comeback in the future if he redevelops his game but certainly with the other two.

 

[Kriketer]

There is no possible XI in Pakistan that can win the World T20. We are a very average side whose real ranking should be 5th or 6th.

Let’s stick with the same “number 1” team that will have no excuses when they get humiliated in the WT20s.

You better not go into hiding when Pakistan lifts the T20 WC trophy

 

[Kriketer]

Our bowling is set. We need to focus on hard hitters which we desperately lack. PSL is the only competition where you can access such skillset. Not an ideal platform but that's all we got to see consistency over the extent of a tournament. Australian pitches aren't what they used to be either so we have a good chance of winning it if we can find a solid finisher.

 

[Markhor]

I usually agree with the vast majority of your views but on this occasion you are wrong.

PSL is Pakistan's premier domestic limited overs competition. The other white ball competitions are of a much lower standard because there are an excessive number of teams who compete in these tournaments, so the inferior end of talent pool are not filtered out (as we see in PSL).

The PSL has the same number of teams as the National T20.

I don't dispute PSL is the premier domestic white ball tournament but that's not saying much. The PSL is mainly made up of has beens chasing one last paycheck and journeymen. The National T20 is infact superior to PSL in featuring young talent - how on earth does Zeeshan Malik not get a single franchise signing him ?

The homegrown batting talent is nonexistent, the foreign players are usually propping up the batting in each team. And the homegrown batsmen who have been successful are TTFs like Kamran and Umar Akmal, and Ahmed Shehzad.

Also PSL's record of producing talent for the national team is hit and miss. Hasan Ali, Fakhar Zaman, Asif Ali, Faheem Ashraf, Shadab Khan, Ahsan Ali and Mohammed Nawaz have all been exposed in international cricket despite their PSL heroics.

 

[Markhor]

Ok then what is the value of PSL for Pakistan cricket? Should we question that?

The only value of the Pakistan Super League is to ensure the revival of international cricket in Pakistan.

It also exposes the very few youngsters actually picked to playing in front of large audiences.

Other than that it contributes nothing. Are any of the franchises operating at a profit ? Is it successful at producing young talent for the Pakistan national team ? Is the quality of cricket superior to any other T20 league in the world ?

PSL is not the magic bullet to our cricket that some think it is. It's just another T20 league, so let's stopping putting this event on a pedestal. If we're really bothered about fixing our cricket, we'd invest in producing quality coaches for school and grassroots cricket.

 

[cricketerB94]

Yes, this PSL will be very important for the likes of Sharjeel, Fakhar, Khushdil, Rohail because the team needs a top order aggressive batsman, a lower order aggressive batsman and a proper wk/bat.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Surely this tournament must be the ultimate test of readiness for the World Cup for Pakistan cricketers?

The probables for the World Cup should be picked from the best performers from this tournament - in fact let that be known to the players and see if that creates the competition for places that will ultimately benefit Pakistan?

I think tinkering now with the time coming so close will be costly, i'd pick only the most exceptional batting performances.

I think as far as fast bowling goes look for someone other than Hassnain or Musa both who are just far too inexperienced and expensive. I'd like to make the bold choice of having Naseem Shah make a t20 debut, I reckon Shaheen Shah, Haris Rauf and Naseem will be a great trio in Australia.

Don't know if Umar Siddiq keeps or not but I'd look towards him as a replacement for Rizwan who i don't think is made for t20, i like him but just feel he lacks the power in t20 but should be retained in odi and test. Whatever you do please no more Sarfraz.