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The Indian govt is allowing the PSL to be broadcast in India and Sony has bought the rights to air the PSL in India. Surely as a matter of principle the Pakistani govt should follow suite and allow Geo Super to broadcast the IPL in Pakistan.
 
The Indian govt is allowing the PSL to be broadcast in India and Sony has bought the rights to air the PSL in India. Surely as a matter of principle the Pakistani govt should follow suite and allow Geo Super to broadcast the IPL in Pakistan.

No until the relations are normalised.
 
Absolutely , no reason to devoid Pakistani fans from watching the top T20 league in the world .
 
Are they really broadcasting PSL in India? If so then kudos to them... i guess you can truly say India it is a cricket mad population!
 
Absolutely NOT. I never wasted one moment to watch this garbage in USA even if it was available for free on ESPN+. Let them ban PSL if they want.
 
Are they really broadcasting PSL in India? If so then kudos to them... i guess you can truly say India it is a cricket mad population!

I used to watch bits of it on YouTube in past years.
 
Who says IPL has been banned in Pakistan? Geo super who no one watches used to air IPL two editions ago, and they found the ratings to be too low to justify showing the domestic league. Theres very small demand for IPL in Pakistan.
 
The Indian govt is allowing the PSL to be broadcast in India and Sony has bought the rights to air the PSL in India. Surely as a matter of principle the Pakistani govt should follow suite and allow Geo Super to broadcast the IPL in Pakistan.

Why to broadcast a league which discriminates against your own players...


PSL is different as PCB has not banned Indian players
 
I have always maintained a stance that sports and arts should be completely separate from politics but, unfortunately that's not how the world and especially sub continent works.

PCB didn't send its players for IPL for a season and after that IPL never selected any Pakistani player. So there is that bad blood.

PSL has never been part of any such controversy till now but, still if I am not wrong PSL was not showed or atleast on mainstream channels in India for quite a few years until recently.
 
Why to broadcast a league which discriminates against your own players...


PSL is different as PCB has not banned Indian players

Indian players don't play any league except the IPL. So PCB cannot ban them if they are not going to put their names in the draft in the first place.
 
It does not matter. IPL is for Indian market. Pakistan anyways does not have a big middle class spending so it is of no benefit to IPL economically as well.
 
Sony has bought the rights for PSL in India? I used to think that nobody watches it in India and there is no demand for Pakistani version of Pyjama League? :inti
 
Why would the government prevent broadcasting of the PSL in India, they have nothing to benefit from that. I can't think of anything that would be gained.
 
In India, you might have a following of a few hundred thousand if not a few million watching European cricket league, but I guess there will be zero followers of PSL
 
Also need to appreciate the Indian government to allow broadcast of PSL inspite Pakistan not showing IPL. Last time also a Sony showed it I think . Just goes to show that BCCI or Ind government are not much bothered nor people are that much interested or there are any protest to block it .
 
They don’t have any content remaining as Star has taken up major sport rights . Something is better than nothing

Well why spend anything on that "nothing" that has no viewers supposedly? You can achieve no viewership without spending anything and maybe playing older matches.
 
i think its good if Sony is showing PSL in India, am personally not a league fan but i know several who'd watch this, good for the game though.
 
IPL is the biggest cricket tournament in the world which features the current best players at the peak of their career. A tournament that dwarfs any other contemorary cricket leagues.

Pakistan has not banned IPL bcoz of its enimity with India. If that is the case Indian international matches wont be telecasted as well or PCB regularly wont ask for India series. The reason IPL is banned bcoz airing it will saturate the market and dwarf all other sporting events including PSL. PCB do not want to give its viewers the option to watch a league which they know is superior than their home league. So banning IPL is not political at all. If I recall, few years ago a Quaid e Azam match (or some other domestic game) was postponed on demand of PTV sports as they wanted to show IPL finals.

Banning of IPL is a strategic step to keep PSL defacto league in Pakistan.

India on the other hand has no reason to ban PSL bcoz BCCI is not insecure about it. They are not afraid that viewership of IPL will reduce or market will be saturated due to PSL. So they are cool with airing PSL in mainstream channel.
 
Problem with both India and Pakistan is that we are petty enemies. Half the time we are in love with each other talking about the same culture, music, art, food bla bla and the other time we are talking about nuclear bombs, which neither of us are ever going to use against each other. Our enmity is not a manly enmity where 2 nations could fight a proper war so we keep doing petty stuff like banning movies, sports etc. It even shows up in the bone of contention i.e. Kashmir where baring high octane talks, we don't do anything. Unfortunately IMO that's how it's going to be forever.
 
Problem with both India and Pakistan is that we are petty enemies. Half the time we are in love with each other talking about the same culture, music, art, food bla bla and the other time we are talking about nuclear bombs, which neither of us are ever going to use against each other. Our enmity is not a manly enmity where 2 nations could fight a proper war so we keep doing petty stuff like banning movies, sports etc. It even shows up in the bone of contention i.e. Kashmir where baring high octane talks, we don't do anything. Unfortunately IMO that's how it's going to be forever.

Years of non sense hatred has created xenophobic monsters on both sides!!!
 
Also need to appreciate the Indian government to allow broadcast of PSL inspite Pakistan not showing IPL. Last time also a Sony showed it I think . Just goes to show that BCCI or Ind government are not much bothered nor people are that much interested or there are any protest to block it .

It makes no difference to us if Inds watch it or not and i am sure its the same for the Inds and whether we watch the IPL. This is far greater than any of that. You have an attempt to ethnically cleanse Kashmir, so the cricket is irrelevant.
 
Years of non sense hatred has created xenophobic monsters on both sides!!!

PKs have no hatred for Ind. The average PK couldnt less about Ind, and doesnt care about Ind outside the Kashmir dispute. That isnt the same for the Inds, just watch their news and you will see the hatred
 
No we should never allow any Indian content to be aired in Pak. We should ban their Cricket like we have done their Bollywood. Make no mistake India is our sworn enemy and Muslim hater with a fascist PM. No sensible country would have allowed Nazi Germany any air time in their country. Ban everything Indian in Pak.
 
Yes so that Pakistanis can see first hand the superior product that PSL is
 
Indian players don't play any league except the IPL. So PCB cannot ban them if they are not going to put their names in the draft in the first place.

Like [MENTION=137484]Ashmal[/MENTION] said. Pcb did not discriminate thus indian players are not banned.

Whether bcci choose to give noc or not is a seperate issue. But pcb hasnt discriminated while bcci has
 
Pakistani govt shouldnt allow it simply because BCCI discriminates Pakistani people to an extent that to apply for ipl you have to be of another nationality od dual nationa if you are Pakistani.

In that case why buy their rights for boadcast, let them lose out on potential money to be made.

The people who will watch can do so on illegal streams and satelitties thus not a dime being made by people who discriminate against us but cry if someone discriminates them
 
Some time back I had a few Bollywood DVD'S. Then i realised we fund the Indian army ourselves by buying their products so I sold them all to an Indian guy on eBay. After 26/11 the Indian's were burning all Pak products they had bought as a form of protest. No don't do that at all but sell them on and make some money:rp!
 
I have always maintained a stance that sports and arts should be completely separate from politics but, unfortunately that's not how the world and especially sub continent works.

PCB didn't send its players for IPL for a season and after that IPL never selected any Pakistani player. So there is that bad blood.

PSL has never been part of any such controversy till now but, still if I am not wrong PSL was not showed or atleast on mainstream channels in India for quite a few years until recently.

It was not the PCB decision at the time, the order came from the Pakistani govt and the PCB and the players had no choice but to comply. The Pakistani IPL players even to then President Asif Zardari and PM Yousaf Raza Gillani to request them to reverse their decision or to compensate them for lost earnings and they refused to budge. End result 10-13 years of Pakistani players lost out on life changing sums of money.
 
Absolutely not. Why would you want to show a competition that has banned your own players?

PSL being shown in India is not comparable as the PCB has not barred the Indians players from participating in it.
 
It was not the PCB decision at the time, the order came from the Pakistani govt and the PCB and the players had no choice but to comply. The Pakistani IPL players even to then President Asif Zardari and PM Yousaf Raza Gillani to request them to reverse their decision or to compensate them for lost earnings and they refused to budge. End result 10-13 years of Pakistani players lost out on life changing sums of money.

You really think that Pakistan not sending its players to the IPL for that one season was the cause of our non-participation for the past however many years? In other words, you're saying that had we sent our players that season, we'd have seen Pakistani participation in the IPL for the last 10-13 years? Come on :facepalm:

That decision had no bearing whatsoever on the subsequent seasons. India does not play with Pakistan on an international level; and here you are talking about Pakistani participation in an Indian domestic league?
 
You really think that Pakistan not sending its players to the IPL for that one season was the cause of our non-participation for the past however many years? In other words, you're saying that had we sent our players that season, we'd have seen Pakistani participation in the IPL for the last 10-13 years? Come on :facepalm:

That decision had no bearing whatsoever on the subsequent seasons. India does not play with Pakistan on an international level; and here you are talking about Pakistani participation in an Indian domestic league?

PCB’s stunt cost Pakistani players at least 3-4 additional seasons if not more. However, they would have been banned by the Modi regime eventually.

Pakistan players were humiliated in the 2010 auction. All of them were unsold, and this was a direct reaction to PCB blocking the players from participating in the 2009 edition.

PCB did not act in good faith and tried to sabotage IPL by blocking its players in 2009. PCB thought it would damage but it backfired in spectacular fashion.

IPL became bigger and bigger with every year and it showed that it did not need Pakistani players to become successful.

They did not open their doors after 2009 because they did not need Pakistani players to be successful, and they could no longer trust PCB. If PCB could block its players once, it could do it again.

IPL franchises did not find it feasible to build their squads around Pakistani players when their availability was subject to PCB’s whims.

PCB learned an important lesson in the 2010 auction: you cannot walk in and out of the tournament depending on your mood.

Nevertheless, as I said above, Pakistani players would have been eventually banned under Modi regime anyway, but there is no doubt that they would have played in the IPL until around 2013-14.

After all, Pakistan did play it’s last bilateral series vs India in 2012-13, and if PCB did not act in bad faith in 2009, the players would have played IPL as well.

PCB’s shallow arrogance and delusions certainly cost the likes of Afridi, Misbah, Malik, Hafeez, Gul, Ajmal, Akmal, Wahab etc. a fortune. These players would have certainly played in the IPL in the first few seasons and would have earned a lot of money.
 
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PCB’s stunt cost Pakistani players at least 3-4 additional seasons if not more. However, they would have been banned by the Modi regime eventually.

Pakistan players were humiliated in the 2010 auction. All of them were unsold, and this was a direct reaction to PCB blocking the players from participating in the 2009 edition.

PCB did not act in good faith and tried to sabotage IPL by blocking its players in 2009. PCB thought it would damage but it backfired in spectacular fashion.

IPL became bigger and bigger with every year and it showed that it did not need Pakistani players to become successful.

They did not open their doors after 2009 because they did not need Pakistani players to be successful, and they could no longer trust PCB. If PCB could block its players once, it could do it again.

IPL franchises did not find it feasible to build their squads around Pakistani players when their availability was subject to PCB’s whims.

PCB learned an important lesson in the 2010 auction: you cannot walk in and out of the tournament depending on your mood.

Nevertheless, as I said above, Pakistani players would have been eventually banned under Modi regime anyway, but there is no doubt that they would have played in the IPL until around 2013-14.

After all, Pakistan did play it’s last bilateral series vs India in 2012-13, and if PCB did not act in bad faith in 2009, the players would have played IPL as well.

PCB’s shallow arrogance and delusions certainly cost the likes of Afridi, Misbah, Malik, Hafeez, Gul, Ajmal, Akmal, Wahab etc. a fortune. These players would have certainly played in the IPL in the first few seasons and would have earned a lot of money.

Blame the Pakistani govt at the time and not the PCB. The PCB under Ijaz Butt were following orders from the then President and PM Asif Zardari and Yousaf Raza Gillani. The Pakistani bound IPL players even approached Zardari and Gillani to reconsider their decision or to compensate them for their losses and they refused to budge.
 
Absolutely not. Why would you want to show a competition that has banned your own players?

This is the main argument for me. Pakistan need to maintain some element of self-respect in the face of a league that has only banned them.

It's nice that India are showing PSL but in no way bridges the gap which currently exists between the two nations. Until Pak players can play IPL there's no need for us to follow suit.
 
This is the main argument for me. Pakistan need to maintain some element of self-respect in the face of a league that has only banned them.

It's nice that India are showing PSL but in no way bridges the gap which currently exists between the two nations. Until Pak players can play IPL there's no need for us to follow suit.

Why do you want PK players in the IPL? It's weird how some of our fans obsesss over this league.
 
Why do you want PK players in the IPL? It's weird how some of our fans obsesss over this league.

Why shouldn't they be in the league in the first place?

Not to mention facts like IPL being the highest level t20 league tournament in the world, offers the most profits to the respective cricket boards and has it's own window.
 
Why shouldn't they be in the league in the first place?

Not to mention facts like IPL being the highest level t20 league tournament in the world, offers the most profits to the respective cricket boards and has it's own window.

I don't them anywhere near the IPL until relations are Normalised and Kashmiris are given a vote for self determination.
 
I have no problem in India banning Pak players from the IPL. It doesn't bother me at all when I don't even watch it. Only international Cricket matters to me.
 
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IPL is the biggest cricket tournament in the world which features the current best players at the peak of their career. A tournament that dwarfs any other contemorary cricket leagues.

Pakistan has not banned IPL bcoz of its enimity with India. If that is the case Indian international matches wont be telecasted as well or PCB regularly wont ask for India series. The reason IPL is banned bcoz airing it will saturate the market and dwarf all other sporting events including PSL. PCB do not want to give its viewers the option to watch a league which they know is superior than their home league. So banning IPL is not political at all. If I recall, few years ago a Quaid e Azam match (or some other domestic game) was postponed on demand of PTV sports as they wanted to show IPL finals.

Banning of IPL is a strategic step to keep PSL defacto league in Pakistan.

India on the other hand has no reason to ban PSL bcoz BCCI is not insecure about it. They are not afraid that viewership of IPL will reduce or market will be saturated due to PSL. So they are cool with airing PSL in mainstream channel.
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IPL is rightfully banned in Pakistan due to the current relations between the two nations. Irrespective of what India allows with the PSL, most Pakistanis support this decision by the government. Doesn’t matter anyway though, as the absence of Pakistani players makes IPL worthless in the average Pakistan cricket fan’s eyes.
 
PCB’s stunt cost Pakistani players at least 3-4 additional seasons if not more. However, they would have been banned by the Modi regime eventually.

Pakistan players were humiliated in the 2010 auction. All of them were unsold, and this was a direct reaction to PCB blocking the players from participating in the 2009 edition.

PCB did not act in good faith and tried to sabotage IPL by blocking its players in 2009. PCB thought it would damage but it backfired in spectacular fashion.

IPL became bigger and bigger with every year and it showed that it did not need Pakistani players to become successful.

They did not open their doors after 2009 because they did not need Pakistani players to be successful, and they could no longer trust PCB. If PCB could block its players once, it could do it again.

IPL franchises did not find it feasible to build their squads around Pakistani players when their availability was subject to PCB’s whims.

PCB learned an important lesson in the 2010 auction: you cannot walk in and out of the tournament depending on your mood.

Nevertheless, as I said above, Pakistani players would have been eventually banned under Modi regime anyway, but there is no doubt that they would have played in the IPL until around 2013-14.

After all, Pakistan did play it’s last bilateral series vs India in 2012-13, and if PCB did not act in bad faith in 2009, the players would have played IPL as well.

PCB’s shallow arrogance and delusions certainly cost the likes of Afridi, Misbah, Malik, Hafeez, Gul, Ajmal, Akmal, Wahab etc. a fortune. These players would have certainly played in the IPL in the first few seasons and would have earned a lot of money.

If i am not wrong, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis Ramiz Raja all worked in the IPL till 2016. So pakistani cricketers would have got a chance in IPL till atleast 2016 if PCB didn't try to pull off that stunt.

BCCI has become so huge that PCB cannot dent it in anyway, financially or at the ICC.
 
The responses on this thread means, no one will complain if PSL is banned in India in future.
 
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IPL is rightfully banned in Pakistan due to the current relations between the two nations. Irrespective of what India allows with the PSL, most Pakistanis support this decision by the government. Doesn’t matter anyway though, as the absence of Pakistani players makes IPL worthless in the average Pakistan cricket fan’s eyes.

That's an excuse mate. Why aren't Indian international matches banned then? Why PCB always demand bilateral cricket ties with BCCI to resume and maintained they never mix politics with sport? Why arent current relations between the two nations is factored in above scenarios then?

Banning IPL is a business move and it has nothing to do with politics. They want to keep PSL as the defacto league and are aware a league like IPL will saturate the market. Precisely the reason BCCI dont allow Indian players to play in any other league as they want to keep IPL relevant.

Whether IPL is worthless among Pakistani fans eyes or not, well let PCB first give it a free market in Pakistan and then we will see how worthless it actually is..LOL. Once back in 2014, on demand of PTV sports to air IPL finals...a domestic Pak game had to be rescheduled. Just saying.
 
Why does pakistan import pharma products from India then? Relations or Kashmiris dont matter then?

A bit like “why does India play us in ICC events but not in bilaterals, do your soldiers not matter then”.

Why does India import cement from Pakistan, are we not terrorists then and, what about the soldiers, do they not matter then?
 
IPL is the biggest cricket tournament in the world which features the current best players at the peak of their career. A tournament that dwarfs any other contemorary cricket leagues.

Pakistan has not banned IPL bcoz of its enimity with India. If that is the case Indian international matches wont be telecasted as well or PCB regularly wont ask for India series. The reason IPL is banned bcoz airing it will saturate the market and dwarf all other sporting events including PSL. PCB do not want to give its viewers the option to watch a league which they know is superior than their home league. So banning IPL is not political at all. If I recall, few years ago a Quaid e Azam match (or some other domestic game) was postponed on demand of PTV sports as they wanted to show IPL finals.

Banning of IPL is a strategic step to keep PSL defacto league in Pakistan.

India on the other hand has no reason to ban PSL bcoz BCCI is not insecure about it. They are not afraid that viewership of IPL will reduce or market will be saturated due to PSL. So they are cool with airing PSL in mainstream channel.

I have a choice if watching both leagues I have not watched a single game of IPL in last 4 years but have been watching PSL fairly regularly. I have a preference of watching Pakistan layers in action if given the choice and so does most Pakistan fans.

The only time IPL will take over PSL in Pakistan is if Pakistan players are allowed in the IPL. PSL is lucky Pakistan fans are banned in the IPL and therefore PSL brand is growing.
 
A bit like “why does India play us in ICC events but not in bilaterals, do your soldiers not matter then”.

Why does India import cement from Pakistan, are we not terrorists then and, what about the soldiers, do they not matter then?

I question the age of such a poster if he has to ask why does a country import Pharma products from neighboring country? It makes business sense.
 
If i am not wrong, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis Ramiz Raja all worked in the IPL till 2016. So pakistani cricketers would have got a chance in IPL till atleast 2016 if PCB didn't try to pull off that stunt.

BCCI has become so huge that PCB cannot dent it in anyway, financially or at the ICC.

And that would have only benefited IPL and few Pakistanis who would have made some money. Banning of Pakistan players is the best thing that can happen for PSL popularity.
 
Blame the Pakistani govt at the time and not the PCB. The PCB under Ijaz Butt were following orders from the then President and PM Asif Zardari and Yousaf Raza Gillani. The Pakistani bound IPL players even approached Zardari and Gillani to reconsider their decision or to compensate them for their losses and they refused to budge.

you do know that the 2008 mumbai attacks happened, and every Indian was being a jerk about Pakistan.


There was no way the govt would had want Pakistani players to participate in that league. The shift of venue took place later on.
 
PCB’s stunt cost Pakistani players at least 3-4 additional seasons if not more. However, they would have been banned by the Modi regime eventually.

Pakistan players were humiliated in the 2010 auction. All of them were unsold, and this was a direct reaction to PCB blocking the players from participating in the 2009 edition.

PCB did not act in good faith and tried to sabotage IPL by blocking its players in 2009. PCB thought it would damage but it backfired in spectacular fashion.

IPL became bigger and bigger with every year and it showed that it did not need Pakistani players to become successful.

They did not open their doors after 2009 because they did not need Pakistani players to be successful, and they could no longer trust PCB. If PCB could block its players once, it could do it again.

IPL franchises did not find it feasible to build their squads around Pakistani players when their availability was subject to PCB’s whims.

PCB learned an important lesson in the 2010 auction: you cannot walk in and out of the tournament depending on your mood.

Nevertheless, as I said above, Pakistani players would have been eventually banned under Modi regime anyway, but there is no doubt that they would have played in the IPL until around 2013-14.

After all, Pakistan did play it’s last bilateral series vs India in 2012-13, and if PCB did not act in bad faith in 2009, the players would have played IPL as well.

PCB’s shallow arrogance and delusions certainly cost the likes of Afridi, Misbah, Malik, Hafeez, Gul, Ajmal, Akmal, Wahab etc. a fortune. These players would have certainly played in the IPL in the first few seasons and would have earned a lot of money.

A country that discriminates and says no Pakistani players allowed to play unless they are dual nationals, would you allow the broadcasting of such a league that openly discriminates against us?
 
This is the main argument for me. Pakistan need to maintain some element of self-respect in the face of a league that has only banned them.

It's nice that India are showing PSL but in no way bridges the gap which currently exists between the two nations. Until Pak players can play IPL there's no need for us to follow suit.

Why do you want your players to feature in IPL when they are slightly doing better in LOIs than India these days? Your players are featuring in ICC LOI XIs, your guys beat us in the recently concluded T20 World Cup yet you want your players to feature in an Indian Pyjama League? That is pretty strange. :inti
 
Why do you want your players to feature in IPL when they are slightly doing better in LOIs than India these days? Your players are featuring in ICC LOI XIs, your guys beat us in the recently concluded T20 World Cup yet you want your players to feature in an Indian Pyjama League? That is pretty strange. :inti

There's no definitive proof that a correlation lies between IPL and results in international cricket. Pakistan have been lucky to find Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen. Aside from those 3 Pakistan remain a poor side with nothing in reserve in the domestic scene either.
 
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