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Sialkot Stallionz revealed as the name of Pakistan Super League’s newest Sialkot-based franchise [Update@ Post 44]

Sialkot joins the PSL: What should be the name of one of Pakistan Super League's newest franchises?

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Rana said:
He is hyped as a brand

Pakistan’s biggest PSL signing was Finn Allen. The nation in general doesn’t have the vision to see it.
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Brand matters more. More people want to watch Smith in PSL than Finn. Same was the reason behind Babar's signing in the BBL.
 
If you have signed him, make him your captain too.

Don’t even think about the initial stupidity of potentially appointing Rizwan as captain!
 
Rana said:
If you have signed him, make him your captain too.

Don’t even think about the initial stupidity of potentially appointing Rizwan as captain!
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Good for the league.

Make him captain. Have him addressing the media.

I know test and T20 is different format but he is arguably the GOAT batsman after Bradman ( if you consider test supreme as most do)

If we can get him on a multi year deal it can be attractive to younger players who may want to sign up and play alongside Smith.

If our journalists have this opportunity to sell the league, and instead ask him dumb questions about biryani or if he enjoys playing with Babar, I will be very disappointed!!!
 
Smith
Joe root
Kane
Whatever you say these are the top players. And psl will benefit alot from them.

Smith should be the captain of stallionz with a young local player as his deputy (maybe saim if peshawar releases him or haris)
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Good for the league.

Make him captain. Have him addressing the media.

I know test and T20 is different format but he is arguably the GOAT batsman after Bradman ( if you consider test supreme as most do)

If we can get him on a multi year deal it can be attractive to younger players who may want to sign up and play alongside Smith.

If our journalists have this opportunity to sell the league, and instead ask him dumb questions about biryani or if he enjoys playing with Babar, I will be very disappointed!!!
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I agree w/ most of your takes brother, but I could not disagree here more. No PSL franchise should appoint a foreign captain. It’s the premier domestic competition and it’s here where you put your young players in leadership positions and develop them. Smith can be vice captain and guide a young player along.

I want to reiterate that I’m not asking for some old timer Pakistan journeyman to be captain but for that responsibility to be given to a young player, as we need to develop captains too.

E.g. I realise it won’t happen, but I’d love Quetta to give the captaincy to young Shamyl Hussain. Similarly I’d like Irfan Niazi, Arafat Minhas and Saim Ayub to all be given captaincy roles as I see them all having leadership potential.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Good for the league.

Make him captain. Have him addressing the media.

I know test and T20 is different format but he is arguably the GOAT batsman after Bradman ( if you consider test supreme as most do)

If we can get him on a multi year deal it can be attractive to younger players who may want to sign up and play alongside Smith.

If our journalists have this opportunity to sell the league, and instead ask him dumb questions about biryani or if he enjoys playing with Babar, I will be very disappointed!!!
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KingOfPakBreakfast said:
I agree w/ most of your takes brother, but I could not disagree here more. No PSL franchise should appoint a foreign captain. It’s the premier domestic competition and it’s here where you put your young players in leadership positions and develop them. Smith can be vice captain and guide a young player along.

I want to reiterate that I’m not asking for some old timer Pakistan journeyman to be captain but for that responsibility to be given to a young player, as we need to develop captains too.

E.g. I realise it won’t happen, but I’d love Quetta to give the captaincy to young Shamyl Hussain. Similarly I’d like Irfan Niazi, Arafat Minhas and Saim Ayub to all be given captaincy roles as I see them all having leadership potential.
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Normally I would be against the idea of a foreign captain, but Steve Smith is one of the best tactical minds in world cricket. Someone who simply has a better and deeper understanding of the game than most players. So I think him being captain could be a masterstroke.
 
Steve Smith playing the PSL is excellent. He is high profile and it's not all about the hitting power. The overall presence, insight and the strategic thinking he will bring to the dressing room will be a big learning curve for the local boys.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Normally I would be against the idea of a foreign captain, but Steve Smith is one of the best tactical minds in world cricket. Someone who simply has a better and deeper understanding of the game than most players. So I think him being captain could be a masterstroke.
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If Sialkot can. They should make Smith captain for this season and groom a young local future captain.
 
Absolutely disagree that a PSL Franchise cannot appoint a foreign captain. They absolutely can, a local does not have a birth right for the role, they have to earn it via their performances and leadership skills
 
Savak said:
Absolutely disagree that a PSL Franchise cannot appoint a foreign captain. They absolutely can, a local does not have a birth right for the role, they have to earn it via their performances and leadership skills
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They can appoint a foreign captain, it’s a matter of if they should. I believe that leadership isn’t an inborn trait but a skill that can be developed, as different people grow in different ways.

You should always use your most high profile domestic completion to develop your own players, first and foremost. Captaincy in a high pressure tournament (like the PSL) is a skill that needs development. It’s not like Pakistani young players get other domestic captaincy opportunities in other leagues. This is how you develop young captains in domestic competition, thus getting them ready for a potential international captaincy stint. It also develops mental resilience in young players.

It’s better to do it this way, rather than just giving captaincy to a complete newbie at international level.

You can still have Steven Smith as a vice captain that a young captain relies on heavily for advice. But you give the responsibility to the young player to develop him.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
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Very smart picks. They’ve almost sorted out their entire bowling line up whilst also having very good lower order hitting:
- Slow Left arm allrounder, check
- Leggie bowling allrounder who’s also emerging - check
- Pace bowling allrounder who’s very good at the death - check
- Left arm pacer who can ball in all phases - check

Similar to Hyderabad and Multan, they’ll struggle to find quality local bats in the auction, but let’s see if they can surprise us w/ smart local batting picks in the auction.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
Very smart picks. They’ve almost sorted out their entire bowling line up whilst also having very good lower order hitting:
- Slow Left arm allrounder, check
- Leggie bowling allrounder who’s also emerging - check
- Pace bowling allrounder who’s very good at the death - check
- Left arm pacer who can ball in all phases - check

Similar to Hyderabad and Multan, they’ll struggle to find quality local bats in the auction, but let’s see if their
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Nafay sameer farhan faiq abdullah fazal and many more.
There is no shortage of exciting young batters
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
Very smart picks. They’ve almost sorted out their entire bowling line up whilst also having very good lower order hitting:
- Slow Left arm allrounder, check
- Leggie bowling allrounder who’s also emerging - check
- Pace bowling allrounder who’s very good at the death - check
- Left arm pacer who can ball in all phases - check

Similar to Hyderabad and Multan, they’ll struggle to find quality local bats in the auction, but let’s see if they can surprise us w/ smart local batting picks in the auction.
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Great local spinners who are in form are very few.

Teams with no local spinners will have to settle with the likes of Yaqoob, Qadir, Noman, Sajid, Zahid, etc.
 
Sialkot Stallions sold 75% of their stakes to an Australian sports medicine company
 
Savak said:
Not sure if people are following this team but one of the owners is accusing the other owner of fraud
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What would happen if something were to collapse in this ownership? Will PCB then look for a new owner like Schon Group / Multan Sultans case? Will the team be get sold for the price it was initially sold?
 
8 Jan – OZ Group bought Sialkot Stallionz for PKR 185 crore.

20 Jan – One partner left the team.

9 Feb – OZ Group sold 75% of its shares in Sialkot to Australia’s Alpha Sports Group.

18 Feb – Alpha Group made serious allegations against OZ Group & left the team.

22 Feb – A new party agreed to buy 90% shares .

Joke of the league. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

:klopp :kp
 
RidiculousMan said:
What would happen if something were to collapse in this ownership? Will PCB then look for a new owner like Schon Group / Multan Sultans case? Will the team be get sold for the price it was initially sold?
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The price disparity between the new 3 and old 5 is so big that it won't work smoothly.

Genuinely hope that the groups who bought the franchises are able to manage the financials but the inequality & difference will cause multiple issues which will cause a rift sooner or later.
 
RidiculousMan said:
What is even happening. Is this a Franchise of PSL or Aalo in sabzi mandi?
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That OZ group looked dodgy as it was and rightly pointed out by @Major

It’s good that they have managed to offload it to one stable owner instead of that group of guys who couldn’t understand who is the actual spearhead admin of the company
 
Savak said:
Embarrassing stuff by the PCB and the PSL Administration. Due Diligence and Homework on the bidders and their financial strength was their responsibility
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Embarrassing stuff again from Jhootiayas like you

The PCB did their ground work and disqualified bidders who didn’t pass their vetting process. Clearly the OZ group ticked all boxes when they came through the process

Your warlord Ali Tareen also passed the vetting process and was given a fair chance to reclaim his franchise. Why are you crying about it??
 
Rana said:
That OZ group looked dodgy as it was and rightly pointed out by @Major

It’s good that they have managed to offload it to one stable owner instead of that group of guys who couldn’t understand who is the actual spearhead admin of the company
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This is an old play book from property dealers in pakistan. They never have the funds, make false promises, buy a thing on lease and than desperately try to generate funds.
 
Rana said:
That OZ group looked dodgy as it was and rightly pointed out by @Major

It’s good that they have managed to offload it to one stable owner instead of that group of guys who couldn’t understand who is the actual spearhead admin of the company
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Why would they sell ownership? Was this their intention all along?
 
RidiculousMan said:
Why would they sell ownership? Was this their intention all along?
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As @Major rightly pointed out, they agreed to buy the franchise at a price they cannot truly afford and therefore one or more of their investors has pulled out on them. They then tried to sell majority shares internally or may have tried to outsource them, but the guys who did agree to buy majority shares became suspicious of the others selling the remaining shares at illegal rates.

It’s a big mess.
 
IMO I think the PCB are not being fair here by allowing CD Ventures to take 98% ownership.

The second franchise went through a fair bidding process and it should be the group who had the second highest bid to have first dibs of whether they wish to buy out the franchise. It was that uncle in the sweater who should get a fair chance @Major
 
Rana said:
IMO I think the PCB are not being fair here by allowing CD Ventures to take 98% ownership.

The second franchise went through a fair bidding process and it should be the group who had the second highest bid to have first dibs of whether they wish to buy out the franchise. It was that uncle in the sweater who should get a fair chance @Major
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The concept of paying fees yearly basis was always going to mess things up in expansion.

The OG 5 can pay the yearly fees cause its less money, compared to what the others have to pay. A better option should had been been, allow the OG continue on yearly fee model, and the new expansion teams should had been sold on one time payment against forever ownership.

After which during the screening process, only those bidders should had been allowed whose statement showed they have the amount to buy it off as one time payment.

Schonn properties wasnt able to afford Multan Sultans, and that was just i think 50 carores, and it was evident that Ali Tareen wasnt afford it either.

Same is gonna happen with hyderabad and rawalpindi
 
Major said:
Same is gonna happen with hyderabad and rawalpindi
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I think Hyderabad and Pindi look legit. Although this Pindi group I feel is going to turn out to become a big big problem for the PCB and Pakistan cricket in general. Their intentions are not exactly in line with my way of how things should be heading. I always trust my instincts/intuition, and they are telling me that Pakistan cricket is heading in a dark direction with this Pindi group as their major investor. Plus, the group will also own the broadcasting rights of the PSL in Pakistan. They are going to dictate a lot of things going forward.
 
Rana said:
I think Hyderabad and Pindi look legit. Although this Pindi group I feel is going to turn out to become a big big problem for the PCB and Pakistan cricket in general. Their intentions are not exactly in line with my way of how things should be heading. I always trust my instincts/intuition, and they are telling me that Pakistan cricket is heading in a dark direction with this Pindi group as their major investor. Plus, the group will also own the broadcasting rights of the PSL in Pakistan. They are going to dictate a lot of things going forward.
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Both groups cant afford to keep the team .

Pulling out 200 carores every year is only possible if the return is very very high. Maybe they pay this fee next year or the year after that, but by the third or fourth year, they will have to sell it.

Down the line, its better to sell the franchises on a one time payment option, or atleast lease out payments on a 10 year basis that converts into lifetime ownership after 10 years.
 
Rana said:
As @Major rightly pointed out, they agreed to buy the franchise at a price they cannot truly afford and therefore one or more of their investors has pulled out on them. They then tried to sell majority shares internally or may have tried to outsource them, but the guys who did agree to buy majority shares became suspicious of the others selling the remaining shares at illegal rates.

It’s a big mess.
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How can this even happen at this level. Not even a season has completed and the owners found out that they cannot afford the bid that they made?

Or if their plan was to like @Major mentioned, develop a scheme from the real estate playbook in hopes of grabbing money from other people, then what was PCB doing? How did they green light them after the KYC?

Also by illegal rates, do you mean more or less than the share price?
 
Rana said:
Plus, the group will also own the broadcasting rights of the PSL in Pakistan. They are going to dictate a lot of things going forward.
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They are also paying a ridiculous amounts of money compared to the 2nd highest bidder in broadcast landscape.
 
I'm also shocked that there is no cool-down policy in the terms to prevent selling of the team or its shares this early into its creation.
 
Team 1 sold to owners who instantly sold the team themselves.

Team 2 sold to owners who added an American City in the name.

Team 3 sold to owners who changed the city name completely.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Team 1 sold to owners who instantly sold the team themselves.

Team 2 sold to owners who added an American City in the name.

Team 3 sold to owners who changed the city name completely.
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Nothing wrong with what team 3 did. This is done in leagues.

Team 2 did what every other team is doing in other leagues.

Team 1 did what lq has also done.
 
If the allegations being thrown around are true, then this is a sham league. What was the point of due diligence and pre-qualification for bidders if this is happening?

Absolute rubbish management. Current PCB administration may be one of the worst we’ve had.

I realize this is PSL team related thread but this just adds to the garbage this administration is putting up. We have an unsettled national team, unsettled domestic structure, stadiums half finished, and our marquee product is on the verge of becoming a joke.
 
Accident waiting to happen, thus franchise everything seems dubious let's hope the players are paid in advance otherwise more chaos
 
PCB should have properly checked history

Now facing embarrassment just before start of PSL

That's why this new teams addition should have been done timely
 
Kianig89 said:
And people were praising Salman Naseer as Pakistani Jeff Bezos
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Wow! We have Salman Naseer fans too? That guy’s been the one constant in the mess that is Pakistan cricket. Chairmen, captains, selectors, and coaches have come and gone but in every setup there’s always space for him.
 
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