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These are refering to British Indians not RSS Indians on a visit visa while riding uber scooters.

British Indians have got kind of swamped in the last decade or so with the swarms of immigrants coming from India. The backlash hasn't got much traction yet due to media attention being pushed by israeli interests, but I expect it to happen like it is in other western countries. You can't even go to a Pakistani restaurant in the UK these days without being met by Indian immigrant workers who you know will be working cash in hand.
 
British Indians have got kind of swamped in the last decade or so with the swarms of immigrants coming from India. The backlash hasn't got much traction yet due to media attention being pushed by israeli interests, but I expect it to happen like it is in other western countries. You can't even go to a Pakistani restaurant in the UK these days without being met by Indian immigrant workers who you know will be working cash in hand.

Yes they are doing all sorts of jobs now with many not able to speak basic English. At Heathrow I saw some arriving taking selfies in front of the arrival sign. In the gym I noticed a new few Indians working out in trousers too.

The west is in decline now. It doesnt make any sense to arrive in the UK, middle east would be better for them.
 
How many people in the real world would bother digging up statistics to prove the worth of Indian people though Raj? Come on man, we both know this is just desperation for acceptance.

It's ok bro, we accept you. Just understand your place.

When shown the mirror, i.e the stats from Home office site, suddenly who cares about stats. Wah ji 😂

So no one in real world cares about stats which tell you the truth but everyone according to Bradford logic plays the caricature and goes with the stereotypes against Indians. Shabash beta.

Then again you believe everything in social media...so that is bit telling.

And did I read it correctly that you accepting me in this country? There was a story I read in 4th standard where a crow tried to become swan. I read a similar story in 10th class where a donkey tried to become a stallion. Same is the condition for some here.

#JaoMoohDohKeAao

:kp
 
British Indians have got kind of swamped in the last decade or so with the swarms of immigrants coming from India. The backlash hasn't got much traction yet due to media attention being pushed by israeli interests, but I expect it to happen like it is in other western countries. You can't even go to a Pakistani restaurant in the UK these days without being met by Indian immigrant workers who you know will be working cash in hand.
I don’t see a problem with hardworking blue collar. I would have a problem if they turn out to be groomers or welfare scroungers like you know who.
 
I don’t see a problem with hardworking blue collar. I would have a problem if they turn out to be groomers or welfare scroungers like you know who.

A lot of them are groomers and welfare scroungers, Jayda Fransen's group caught out quite a few by mistake when they did a sting operation using young girls as bait.

But to be fair, the ones I've come across in the Pakistani restaurants have been really good at their job, very friendly and menial.
 
A lot of them are groomers and welfare scroungers, Jayda Fransen's group caught out quite a few by mistake when they did a sting operation using young girls as bait.

But to be fair, the ones I've come across in the Pakistani restaurants have been really good at their job, very friendly and menial.
Don’t think so, I don’t think these are Indian immigrants on student visa working in a restaurant 👇
 

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When shown the mirror, i.e the stats from Home office site, suddenly who cares about stats. Wah ji 😂

So no one in real world cares about stats which tell you the truth but everyone according to Bradford logic plays the caricature and goes with the stereotypes against Indians. Shabash beta.

Then again you believe everything in social media...so that is bit telling.

And did I read it correctly that you accepting me in this country? There was a story I read in 4th standard where a crow tried to become swan. I read a similar story in 10th class where a donkey tried to become a stallion. Same is the condition for some here.

#JaoMoohDohKeAao

:kp


Ha ha, this one is where all Indians on this site get caught out. For them only white folk count as British...which is fine, but that is exactly why I speak to you in the language of true Brits. So you may understand.
 
Gang groomers in that pic, tis a big issue. So much so that @Cpt. Rishwat was forced to start a thread on how serious the problem was. Turns out he got upset when Indians started posting in that thread lol.


There's actually videos in that thread where they turned out to be Indian immigrants but I don't feel the need to go digging through it just to point score. To the sort of person who committed the rape we are talking about in this thread, they all look the same.
 
Gang groomers in that pic, tis a big issue. So much so that @Cpt. Rishwat was forced to start a thread on how serious the problem was. Turns out he got upset when Indians started posting in that thread lol.
I feel we have reached a point in this discussion where the next line of argument is what are Indian posters doing on this forum. That’s usually a sign that topic is going to die soon 👍
 
Ha ha, this one is where all Indians on this site get caught out. For them only white folk count as British...which is fine, but that is exactly why I speak to you in the language of true Brits. So you may understand.

Again white and black logic. No part of my post has any mention of me thinking only whites are British. As I said many times before, people like us who moved here as immigrants couldnt care less about skin color. That is the stigma with which people like you who grow up in this country as colored person carries.

You stereotyped couple of things in this thread in last few days -

1. How Britishers considers Indians as people who celebrate religion of throwing poop.

2. How Britishers considers Indians as call centre scammers.

When asking for what is your source for these stereotypes, you are like...its all over social media and heard from there.

To the above allegations, I mentioned them to be incorrect as wider perception towards Indians are they are most well to do and affluent minority.

On this you said, I am living in fantasy world.

To prove you incorrect - I also quoted actual data and statistics from UK Govt website.

Now you are saying people on street dont care about statistics.

Not sure how much more clear I can be. Sometimes its good to accept defeat and move on rather than getting exposed again and again.

:kp
 
Again white and black logic. No part of my post has any mention of me thinking only whites are British. As I said many times before, people like us who moved here as immigrants couldnt care less about skin color. That is the stigma with which people like you who grow up in this country as colored person carries.

You stereotyped couple of things in this thread in last few days -

1. How Britishers considers Indians as people who celebrate religion of throwing poop.

2. How Britishers considers Indians as call centre scammers.

When asking for what is your source for these stereotypes, you are like...its all over social media and heard from there.

To the above allegations, I mentioned them to be incorrect as wider perception towards Indians are they are most well to do and affluent minority.

On this you said, I am living in fantasy world.

To prove you incorrect - I also quoted actual data and statistics from UK Govt website.

Now you are saying people on street dont care about statistics.

Not sure how much more clear I can be. Sometimes its good to accept defeat and move on rather than getting exposed again and again.

:kp

Do you honestly think ordinary Brits read statistics about Indians? Far more likely they are seeing the videos of them throwing poop at a festival if they are going viral. Definitely more of them would think of Indians when it comes to call centre scammers, you know it even if you don't want to admit it.
 
Do you honestly think ordinary Brits read statistics about Indians? Far more likely they are seeing the videos of them throwing poop at a festival if they are going viral. Definitely more of them would think of Indians when it comes to call centre scammers, you know it even if you don't want to admit it.
“Ordinary” Brits is a very vague definition. Ordinary Brits most of them are probably hustling to make a better lives for themselves, not wasting time on illiterate arguments on India-Pak politics or Hindu-Muslim relations.

So most of this specific details Rajdeep provided is catered towards the Brit-Pakistanis (not all obviously but the type we are going for ) who kind of seem to stick out differently from the so called ordinary Brits.

We see the distinction crystal clear and probably so do you but just want to shift goalposts 🤣🤣🤣
 
Do you honestly think ordinary Brits read statistics about Indians? Far more likely they are seeing the videos of them throwing poop at a festival if they are going viral. Definitely more of them would think of Indians when it comes to call centre scammers, you know it even if you don't want to admit it.

Why dont you show some proof or any sort of substance to back your claim that 'Ordinary Brits' think about those racists stereotypes against Indians?

You are going on passing the racist caricature which you heard in your Pakistani British circle and trying to pass it as norm.

I mean moment any 'Ordinary Brit' hear the term muslim, the word terrorist comes to mind. Or when the hear the word Pakistani, they ask their daughters to stay away thinking they will be groomed. There are some amount of truth in all these stereotypes. However, I am not going to pass them as norm.

The point remains - Indians, along with Chinese nationals are most successful minority population where as Pakistanis are the lowest of the lows. This is not stereotype which I heard on street but backed by Govt data.
 
Why dont you show some proof or any sort of substance to back your claim that 'Ordinary Brits' think about those racists stereotypes against Indians?

You are going on passing the racist caricature which you heard in your Pakistani British circle and trying to pass it as norm.

I mean moment any 'Ordinary Brit' hear the term muslim, the word terrorist comes to mind. Or when the hear the word Pakistani, they ask their daughters to stay away thinking they will be groomed. There are some amount of truth in all these stereotypes. However, I am not going to pass them as norm.

The point remains - Indians, along with Chinese nationals are most successful minority population where as Pakistanis are the lowest of the lows. This is not stereotype which I heard on street but backed by Govt data.

There are many forms of proof. You can keep digging up the stats which no one except Indians would know about, I'll keep posting the viral videos. We can both be happy with this conclusion. :)
 
There are many forms of proof. You can keep digging up the stats which no one except Indians would know about, I'll keep posting the viral videos. We can both be happy with this conclusion. :)

It is not about me being happy with any conclusion. That is not how debates work. When you claim something, you need to substantiate with proof. Viral Vidoes in social media is not proof.

I mean we all see viral videos on social media about muslims/Pakistanis but if I try to base my arguement on those, you will be the first one to accuse me of racism and far right.
 
“Ordinary” Brits is a very vague definition. Ordinary Brits most of them are probably hustling to make a better lives for themselves, not wasting time on illiterate arguments on India-Pak politics or Hindu-Muslim relations.

So most of this specific details Rajdeep provided is catered towards the Brit-Pakistanis (not all obviously but the type we are going for ) who kind of seem to stick out differently from the so called ordinary Brits.

We see the distinction crystal clear and probably so do you but just want to shift goalposts 🤣🤣🤣
You can’t tell the difference between the food hole and the exit hole, that’s why every comment you make sounds like it’s taken a scenic route through your digestive system. Half digested by bile, marinated in confusion, and served hot and steaming straight from the wrong end.
 
Do you honestly think ordinary Brits read statistics about Indians? Far more likely they are seeing the videos of them throwing poop at a festival if they are going viral. Definitely more of them would think of Indians when it comes to call centre scammers, you know it even if you don't want to admit it.

I highly doubt you even interact with white people (what you mean by 'ordinary Brits') in the UK. You get all your information about them from the internet i.e social media and parrot them on here.
 
It is not about me being happy with any conclusion. That is not how debates work. When you claim something, you need to substantiate with proof. Viral Vidoes in social media is not proof.

I mean we all see viral videos on social media about muslims/Pakistanis but if I try to base my arguement on those, you will be the first one to accuse me of racism and far right.
Be cautious, I sense a vibe of Hindutva, Moody, RSS, Beeeeef argument somewhere around the corner 👆. Be ready to get OWNED!!!
 
You can’t tell the difference between the food hole and the exit hole, that’s why every comment you make sounds like it’s taken a scenic route through your digestive system. Half digested by bile, marinated in confusion, and served hot and steaming straight from the wrong end.
What the hell did I just read 🤣.

Summary- someone’s nerve got pinched in an intimate area looks like lol.
 
What the hell did I just read 🤣.

Summary- someone’s nerve got pinched in an intimate area looks like lol.
You do not read. Only @Rajdeep can understand what you have written. At times, I doubt even you know what you have written, as long as it sound condescending, you just post it.
 
I highly doubt you even interact with white people (what you mean by 'ordinary Brits') in the UK. You get all your information about them from the internet i.e social media and parrot them on here.

A Pakistani and a muslim should be the last one to generlize another group based on social media caricature. This has to be heights of irony and pot calling kettle black.

And I am just being respectful.

😊
 
You can’t tell the difference between the food hole and the exit hole, that’s why every comment you make sounds like it’s taken a scenic route through your digestive system. Half digested by bile, marinated in confusion, and served hot and steaming straight from the wrong end.

That is some impressive colonic prose.
 
It is not about me being happy with any conclusion. That is not how debates work. When you claim something, you need to substantiate with proof. Viral Vidoes in social media is not proof.

I mean we all see viral videos on social media about muslims/Pakistanis but if I try to base my arguement on those, you will be the first one to accuse me of racism and far right.

I won't accuse you of anything. No one cares about your personal views how debates work. You do you, I will do me.
 
You do not read. Only @Rajdeep can understand what you have written.
That’s fine but don’t think even you have understood what you have written? Where you attempting to insult/ trigger me?

Ok you got me!!! :uak

Now go outside and play. As usual you are out of depth on matters that require some analysis or substance.
 
Yes. By posting stats from some site no one looks at.

That is not 'some site' but UK Govt's website. Jeez.

If no one in Britain reading from Govt sites and going by Viral videos from social media, that is very telling, isnt it?

However, consider I live in this country too....I am fully aware that is not happening. So we are good.
 
I won't accuse you of anything. No one cares about your personal views how debates work. You do you, I will do me.

What is the statement 'You do you...I do me' even means 😂

I thought we are debating. Lets continue na? I was just getting warmed up.

Btw, my views were not personal as they were quoted with govt backed data.
 
That’s fine but don’t think even you have not understood what you have written? Where you attempting to insult/ trigger me?

Ok you got me!!! :uak

Now go outside and play. As usual you are out of depth on matters that require some analysis or substance.

Analysis and substance? Have you even read your own post? Let’s break it down together and see if we can find that mysterious ‘substance’ you keep talking about, maybe it’s hiding between the nonsense?
 
Analysis and substance? Have you even read your own post? Let’s break it down together and see if we can find that mysterious ‘substance’ you keep talking about, maybe it’s hiding between the nonsense?
you should be last guy to talk about how to articulate on a topics. You barely can complete a statement without 3-4 crutch words. you are just the village “you know what” that we have some fun with once in a while. You haven’t said one thing that merits even an argument or response ever. So yeah stop tagging me for your nonsene. Not interested.
 
I highly doubt you even interact with white people (what you mean by 'ordinary Brits') in the UK. You get all your information about them from the internet i.e social media and parrot them on here.

Isn't that what everyone does on forums like this? Your friend @Rajdeep is a big fan of Tommy Robinson who is a big noise on social media. So is Andrew Tate for that matter. What is your point?
 
you should be last guy to talk about how to articulate on a topics. You barely can complete a statement without 3-4 crutch words. you are just the village “you know what” that we have some fun with once in a while. You haven’t said one thing that merits even an argument or response ever. So yeah stop tagging me for your nonsene. Not interested.
LOL, I get it,you’re upset.

Don’t worry, I’ll keep replying to your incoherence with full ‘choroncy’ energy. You bring condescension, I’ll bring creative insults. You try to be witty while defending bigots, I’ll keep dropping lines that go right over your head like your last three failed attempts at logic.

At this point, your only defense mechanism is the ‘ignore’ button, which, honestly, might be the smartest move you’ll ever make.

The only group who would try to defend 'rape' just because they want to score some point. Absolutely disgusting.
 
@Cpt. Rishwat no hard feelings bro and lets for a moment forget me the person. Just answer the below, HONESTLY -

1. Should you pass racist stereotypes against Indians as norms just because you have watched some viral videos in social media?

2. Do you think that is enough to claim that is what 'Ordinary Brits' think about Indians?

3. If I try to pass same racist stereotypes against Pakistanis and muslims that I see on social media as norms, will you like it? I am sure you know what videos I am talking about. If I do the same will you not call me racist and far right?

All I did on this debate is provided you Govt backed data. Your only counter arguements is - you have watched viral social media views about Indians, Rajdeep is Tommy Robinson supporter, how I am living on Visa here etc etc.

These are losers arguement. That is not how sensible people do debates.

Think and introspect bro.

Anyway, I got to go now back to my Tesco work as my lunch time over. Good bye friend.

:kp
 
@Cpt. Rishwat no hard feelings bro and lets for a moment forget me the person. Just answer the below, HONESTLY -

1. Should you pass racist stereotypes against Indians as norms just because you have watched some viral videos in social media?

2. Do you think that is enough to claim that is what 'Ordinary Brits' think about Indians?

3. If I try to pass same racist stereotypes against Pakistanis and muslims that I see on social media as norms, will you like it? I am sure you know what videos I am talking about. If I do the same will you not call me racist and far right?

All I did on this debate is provided you Govt backed data. Your only counter arguements is - you have watched viral social media views about Indians, Rajdeep is Tommy Robinson supporter, how I am living on Visa here etc etc.

These are losers arguement. That is not how sensible people do debates.

Think and introspect bro.

Anyway, I got to go now back to my Tesco work as my lunch time over. Good bye friend.

:kp

My humble opinion is that I SHOULD post the racial stereotypes of Indians. Why? Because as long as there are Tommy Robinson supporting Indians on the forums, that is exactly what we should be doing. Because you see, most immigrants don't understand how the mind of Tommy works, but if there was any British Indians here they would agree with me. This stuff is actually educational. It's out there, it's not me making these videos. You are shooting the messenger.
 
Raj wants to be white . Why are so many Indians ashamed of their skin tone and background wishing they were born John smith as a baby ?
 
LOL, I get it,you’re upset.

Don’t worry, I’ll keep replying to your incoherence with full ‘choroncy’ energy. You bring condescension, I’ll bring creative insults. You try to be witty while defending bigots, I’ll keep dropping lines that go right over your head like your last three failed attempts at logic.

At this point, your only defense mechanism is the ‘ignore’ button, which, honestly, might be the smartest move you’ll ever make.

The only group who would try to defend 'rape' just because they want to score some point. Absolutely disgusting.
I don’t use ignore button lol, not that petty. I scroll past most garbage from you unless something really juvenile and dumb catches my attention.
 
My humble opinion is that I SHOULD post the racial stereotypes of Indians. Why? Because as long as there are Tommy Robinson supporting Indians on the forums, that is exactly what we should be doing. Because you see, most immigrants don't understand how the mind of Tommy works, but if there was any British Indians here they would agree with me. This stuff is actually educational. It's out there, it's not me making these videos. You are shooting the messenger.

I am not saying you making those videos but the issue is you passing those vidoes as norms and generalizing.

What is the difference then when Britain First posted some racist video against muslims and Donald Trump re tweeted. Those were also videos but the same people like you will accuse them as Islamophobe.

Okay so your logic is...you can be racist just because a fellow poster has right wing mindset? LOL.

So we can be Islamophobe because I see bunch of Islamists here? That is not how it works.

You have lost this debate big time and hanging onto some of the social media vidoes you have witnessed.
 
Raj wants to be white . Why are so many Indians ashamed of their skin tone and background wishing they were born John smith as a baby ?

I can answer this bro.

Friday 13th 2015 Nov...exactly at 21.26PM....Paris gets rocked by ISIS terrorism.

Next day I go out of home and gets all weird looks near Bank station. Those looks wanted to say me something which I felt very strongly.

Ran back home, trimmed by beard which I used to spot that time imitating King Kohli.

I have too many scars. Though I am not ashamed of my skin colour but it has its perks.
 
Raj wants to be white . Why are so many Indians ashamed of their skin tone and background wishing they were born John smith as a baby ?

To be fair, a lot of Indians are ok with being brown as long as there is someone who is hated more by whites, so if Tommy is going all in on Muslims, then many Hindus and Sikhs are happy to be seen as the good brownies.
 
I am not saying you making those videos but the issue is you passing those vidoes as norms and generalizing.

What is the difference then when Britain First posted some racist video against muslims and Donald Trump re tweeted. Those were also videos but the same people like you will accuse them as Islamophobe.

Okay so your logic is...you can be racist just because a fellow poster has right wing mindset? LOL.

So we can be Islamophobe because I see bunch of Islamists here? That is not how it works.

You have lost this debate big time and hanging onto some of the social media vidoes you have witnessed.


Well you are answering your own question. If Britain First and Trump are tweeting and posting, then this is a fight we are already in. You must have heard the catchphrase, if you can't beat them, join them. You can't have just one voice being heard otherwise there is no debate.
 
I can answer this bro.

Friday 13th 2015 Nov...exactly at 21.26PM....Paris gets rocked by ISIS terrorism.

Next day I go out of home and gets all weird looks near Bank station. Those looks wanted to say me something which I felt very strongly.

Ran back home, trimmed by beard which I used to spot that time imitating King Kohli.

I have too many scars. Though I am not ashamed of my skin colour but it has its perks.

Even if there were no attacks, racism has been alive in Europe for the last 1000 years.

I rarely get racist abuse or words thrown at for a few reasons. I can handle myself well, am very confident , can speak English better than most English. Dress sense, attitude etc . If you dont have this , it will be very difficult unless you get a face transplant or surgery to turn white, but even then your accent will remain.

The point is you have to accept who you are and live with it. Its your choice to move to Europe knowing all the information. I assume you are moving for economic purposes? Why not Saudi, UAE , Qatar or even South Asia? Much closer to India and far less racism?
 
Well you are answering your own question. If Britain First and Trump are tweeting and posting, then this is a fight we are already in. You must have heard the catchphrase, if you can't beat them, join them. You can't have just one voice being heard otherwise there is no debate.

But I am not in it as I have not posted social media hearsays and videos here and claimed those stereotypes as facts, isnt it? So no...there is no 'we' in this fight. It is you who has double standards, who choose to pass sweeping racist stereotypes against Indians taken from social media but then accuse others of right wings. All I have done in this thread is to show you that Indians as minorities along with Chinese nationals are doing the best and most affluent in UK based in GOV.UK data and Pakistanis/Bangladeshis doing the worst. A sensible person would introspect why that is the case but you clearly got hurt and started making silly arguements you picked in social media.
 
What a stupid statement from a total gorm.

A right winger in India isnt the same as a right winger in the UK or America, although the hatred of Muslims is one common denominator. A right winger in India believes in not eating beef and killing anyone that does, the right wing America and UK love big steaks, which according to you is like eating your mother.🤣🤣

The right wing in America also hate the Indians as much they hate Muslims, a right winger in the UK and US also hates immigration that dilutes their whiteness- the great replacement theory. I am not sure where you are but if in the UK or America you should be expelling yourself from these countries because thats what the right wants and as you say, you are a right winger. 🤣🤣🤣
@Rajdeep
Are you still right wing?
 
But I am not in it as I have not posted social media hearsays and videos here and claimed those stereotypes as facts, isnt it? So no...there is no 'we' in this fight. It is you who has double standards, who choose to pass sweeping racist stereotypes against Indians taken from social media but then accuse others of right wings. All I have done in this thread is to show you that Indians as minorities along with Chinese nationals are doing the best and most affluent in UK based in GOV.UK data and Pakistanis/Bangladeshis doing the worst. A sensible person would introspect why that is the case but you clearly got hurt and started making silly arguements you picked in social media.

I've not really said anything about right wing or left wing, so not sure what hypocrisy you are talking about. I think it is you who is hurt because you seem to be complaining about me posting racist stereotypes. Where are you seeing any complaints from me? I just said most average Brits would have no idea of the stats you are posting, however valid they might be. Why would they? They are far more likely to have seen viral videos of poop throwing festivals. This is just the world we live in bro, no point in getting upset about it.
 
I've not really said anything about right wing or left wing, so not sure what hypocrisy you are talking about. I think it is you who is hurt because you seem to be complaining about me posting racist stereotypes. Where are you seeing any complaints from me? I just said most average Brits would have no idea of the stats you are posting, however valid they might be. Why would they? They are far more likely to have seen viral videos of poop throwing festivals. This is just the world we live in bro, no point in getting upset about it.

So I am assuming you are not touchy about ISIS, grooming , welfare scrounging, inbreeding type stereotypes for your community then. Personally I don’t approve or endorse stereotypes but for my reference as next time I know what I am dealing with here. I obviously have an idea but double confirming. I get that also from viral videos, social media, social gatherings, media chatter etc etc so not really something too out of the box.
 
So I am assuming you are not touchy about ISIS, grooming , welfare scrounging, inbreeding type stereotypes for your community then. Personally I don’t approve or endorse stereotypes but for my reference as next time I know what I am dealing with here. I obviously have an idea but double confirming. I get that also from viral videos, social media, social gatherings, media chatter etc etc so not really something too out of the box.

I see all this every day anyway, either directly or more subtle dog whistle stuff. I am not touchy about it at all, that is why I actually started the thread about gang grooming.
 
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