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So does anyone have any doubts that Virat Kohli will be a better Test captain than MS Dhoni?

So Anyone Has Any Doubts That Kohli Will Be A Better Test Captain Than Dhoni?

Abhilash93 said:
He would have played Aaron over Bhuvi if that was the case.

A good decision in hindsight. Atleast, Bhuvi batted well and did not go at 5 rpo.
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Sorry, I was under the impression that Varun injured himself after the second Test match. Still though, no Indian captain would risk dropping a fit Bhuvneshwar following the series that he had in England.
 
DHONI183 said:
Sorry, I was under the impression that Varun injured himself after the second Test match. Still though, no Indian captain would risk dropping a fit Bhuvneshwar following the series that he had in England.
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No he had gone back to India due to demise of his grandfather. Was back in time for 4th Test but wasn't in mental shape to play I guess
 
So Anyone Has Any Doubts That Kohli Will Be A Better Test Captain Than Dhoni?

Saurav said:
No he had gone back to India due to demise of his grandfather. Was back in time for 4th Test but wasn't in mental shape to play I guess
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Ah´, thanks for correcting me on this. I was close though as I at least remembered Varun not being available for a match.
 
Well.....Well...Well....

I haven't seen much of him to judge his tactical acumen but he is proving to be a very aggressive captain.

1. Went for the 6-5 combo and promises to do the same (something which Dhoni never understood his Test captaincy career)
2. Winning attitude which impacts team culture (went for follow on and tried to see if anything is possible with 30 overs)
3. Aggressive field settings for our bowlers
4. When Bangla batsmen smashed a few, he didn't bring back the field....he placed a few fielders at the deep (without taking off fielders from attacking positions) if a batsmen repeated smashed a few balls...

Verdict as of now: Very very impressed by his approach

But long way to go. Have to see how he does when things are really bad for us.
 
The way he rotated the bowlers was also impressive.

Its easy to rotate bowlers when you have 5 of them but hey he went for that combo.

Could have picked 3 spinners instead of 3 pacers but those things can be sorted.
 
Dhoni is over-rated as a test captain. One of the all time best in ODIs though. Ok in T20s, T20s are for a young captain
 
[MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION]

unfortunately I have not gone through all the forum posts (which is why I am in no position to say that what I am about to say has not been said earlier).

The thing is, I do not follow Indian Cricket but from what I have heard and seen in the last few days, all the noise coming from the dressing room is just brilliant.

Kohli stating that he is not afraid to lose in going for a win.

Shastri stating that he wants India to play aggressive cricket.

To me, this is the essence of Kohli. He is the face of modern India and while the past had great players like Gavaskar and Sachin, the modern India needs new Idols. To me, Kohli is the successor of Ganguly, an aggressive captain who wants to win.

Ganguly, despite his brilliance lived under the shadows of Tendulkar and rarely managed to make critical decisions that would have seen Indian cricket tumble (decisions such as axing Tendulkar when out of form, changing his number and giving Sehwag number 4 position etc.).

Kohli, does not carry the additional weight of reputations in his team - a rarity in Sub-Continent.

Team India is moving forward and improving. As a Pakistani, this may be difficult to admit but the cues point towards a better stronger test team for India in foreign conditions.

As much as I would hate that to happen, I have to admire the audacity, panache and tenacity of Kohli and Shastri (a cricketer who many people fail to appreciate).

The jury is out on Indian bowling (like always) but it is not impossible to see a triumvirate of Indian bowlers consisting of Arun, Yadav, Ishant (or Shami/Bhuvi) backed up by Harbhajan/Axar/some other spinner and Ashwin (as the all-rounder) taking teams head on and causing serious damage.

For all that is worth, this is a brilliant start.

Now only time will tell, if this will work as planned or not.

A part of me wishes it does not happen, a part of me also wishes for Indian success - may be it will be the catalyst to wake us from our deep slumber and even if it does not change anything for us, it will still be better to enjoy competitive cricket played by India in foreign conditions rather than dull bore fests.

A man can wait, for the lord of time reveals all!
 
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[MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION]

unfortunately I have not gone through all the forum posts (which is why I am in no position to say that what I am about to say has not been said earlier).

The thing is, I do not follow Indian Cricket but from what I have heard and seen in the last few days, all the noise coming from the dressing room is just brilliant.

Kohli stating that he is not afraid to lose in going for a win.

Shastri stating that he wants India to play aggressive cricket.

To me, this is the essence of Kohli. He is the face of modern India and while the past had great players like Gavaskar and Sachin, the modern India needs new Idols. To me, Kohli is the successor of Ganguly, an aggressive captain who wants to win.

Ganguly, despite his brilliance lived under the shadows of Tendulkar and rarely managed to make critical decisions that would have seen Indian cricket tumble (decisions such as axing Tendulkar when out of form, changing his number and giving Sehwag number 4 position etc.).

Kohli, does not carry the additional weight of reputations in his team - a rarity in Sub-Continent.

Team India is moving forward and improving. As a Pakistani, this may be difficult to admit but the cues point towards a better stronger test team for India in foreign conditions.

As much as I would hate that to happen, I have to admire the audacity, panache and tenacity of Kohli and Shastri (a cricketer who many people fail to appreciate).

The jury is out on Indian bowling (like always) but it is not impossible to see a triumvirate of Indian bowlers consisting of Arun, Yadav, Ishant (or Shami/Bhuvi) backed up by Harbhajan/Axar/some other spinner and Ashwin (as the all-rounder) taking teams head on and causing serious damage.

For all that is worth, this is a brilliant start.

Now only time will tell, if this will work as planned or not.

A part of me wishes it does not happen, a part of me also wishes for Indian success - may be it will be the catalyst to wake us from our deep slumber and even if it does not change anything for us, it will still be better to enjoy competitive cricket played by India in foreign conditions rather than dull bore fests.

A man can wait, for the lord of time reveals all!
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Thanks bro.

We have to take step by step.

1. We need to find a spin partner for Ashwin cos Bhajji seems past it.
2. We need to find reliable pacers who can bowl fast but without spraying it all over (there must be a balance - no point in speed without accuracy)
3. We need to figure out who is our opener to partner Vijay and give more chances to Pujara to develop

In Asia, we should be fine if we get the spin partner for Ashwin right but outside Asia...a lot of work needs to be done.

Let's see how things unfold.

Kohli will be tested when he comes across situations where we can't simply mindlessly attack and there we will get to see how he marshalls his troops.
 
Most people tend to confuse Dhoni's batting talent with his captaincy. He's a great finisher but his captaincy is ordinary.
 
The only problem i had with Kohli during the first test was , No hit over Pujara ? Really ? :facepalm:
 
2 years almost up....So what's the verdict now?

Strengths

1. Super proactive

2. Lifts the team morale up

3. Backs pacers

4. Talks the small but crucial contributors and makes them feel important (in the press conference he said that big performances will be talked about anyway and instead talked about Jaddu, Shami, Saha, Yadav performances...could have mentioned Bhuvi too...probably forgot cos he played just 1 game)

5. Makes mistakes but is willing to learn (he made a huge mistake by attacking too much in Sabina Park - of course bowlers let us down too - but later on he changed in...even in press conference he talked about how its important to keep things tight during tough periods of play....the DIFFERENCE is that he keeps things tight while doing everything possible to get wickets...he doesn't let the game meander in the name of defense....)

Weaknesses

1. Focus on Rohit...yes, he has repaid Kohli's faith this series but he is not the future
2. Some dangerously bad team selections which weren't exposed cos Ashwin and Saha bailed him out...if Pujara wasn't selected for the 3rd test in SL, we would have lost that series....
3. [Minor flaw] Sometimes in the name of .doing the right thing, Kohli can waste overs....Backing pacers is important but if spinners are getting more life out of the pitch, just give it to them instead of wasting 5-10 overs...This doesn't happen often but it happens at times....

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Horses For Courses Policy For Pacers - While its a good thing for short term, it may not be ideal for long term.....but with Indian home season, Kohli just has 2 pacer spots so it makes more sense to rotate pacers and give everyone a chance instead of giving 2 set pacers all the chance and creating a situation where those 2 pacers must be fit or else we would go to overseas with pacers who haven't played test cricket for years....

Our touring pattern is the problem...we are having home tours fully then away tours...that sucks from a team development point of view...but you can only do with what is put in front of you.
 
His learning from mistakes is probably the best thing about him and tbh unlikely him too considering his attitude.
I guess even Shami praised him for the support during his daughter's illness.

Hopefully he keeps learning and throws Rohit out soon.
 
Is there any doubt that Imran and Misbah are better test captains than MSD? Can't believe there was a thread comparing Dhoni to Imran.

Virat Kohli is better too.
 
Wow - I can't believe it's been two years already.

Well done Kohli! Away victories in Lanka and the Caribbean with home series wins against New Zealand and South Africa.

Not to mentioned the daredevilry in Adelaide where we almost snatched a win.
 
Unbelievable that for some inexplicable reason BCCI has continued to stick with Dhoni as captain. ODI team is saturated and Dhoni, after 9 years as captain, is not the right persn to prepare for 2017 CT and 2019 WC.

Before its too late, hope better sense prevails on BCCI/Dhoni (:pray)
 
He is already better than Dhoni who was a pathetic Test match captain. Don't see any defensive move from Kohli, either lose, or lose while trying to win.
 
Kohli cannot be as bad as Dhoni.

He'll come back fighting in the 2nd and 3rd tests. Dhoni would have simply drooped.
 
Kohli will improve in time. This is a big series for him but he can still save it and in fact win it. But does he have the players with him that will help him achieve this.
 
TeymurBlake said:
Kohli will improve in time. This is a big series for him but he can still save it and in fact win it. But does he have the players with him that will help him achieve this.
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Yes! He has much better player than what Dhoni had when he was a Test Captain. But ufortunately, Kohli's favoritism is not only spoiling his career as a captain but also the Team's success rate!
 
Aggression is not everything.. dhoni was a great example how you can still manages to attack while keeping yourself calm and cool.. kohli losses his mind while captaining..
 
Dhoni had a damage control attitude before even a single delivery was bowled. He never encouraged pace. It was all line and length and not allowing opponents to score too many runs. Worked well in LOI cricket. But not tests.

Kohli is the exact opposite. He likes match winners. Not tuk tuk defensive minded ones. He wants instant results. He thinks a quick fire century will change the outcome of the match. Which is true. So he picks guys like Rohit who are great ODI players. But they do not have it in them to play Tests. He keeps chopping and changing the team every match. Never has a settled team.

I would still take Kohli over MSD as Test captain. Under Kohli, our pacers have looked internaitonal class. Kohli encouraged pacers who can bowl at good speeds. No more 125k trundlers like Vinay Kumar, Praveen Kumar, Munaf, Dinda in the Test Squad.
 
I'm going to mentally give him one more test.

All will be revealed by the toss at Jo'burg whether Kohli has indeed got it in him or not. And I swear, if I see Rohit or Dhawan or his other buddies in there again...

And it still doesn't take away from the fact that Dhoni was a dud as test captain.
 
Dhoni didn't hav ability in test cricket.

Kohli has but screws up due to ego.

Not sure what has happened to him these days but i hope he comes back down to earth.
 
troodon said:
Yupp by selecting 125k line and length trundlers and letting the opposition rack up huge scores?

MSD is a pathetic test captain.
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So what is Kohli's master strategy and how is it different to MSD?
 
Dhoni is a defensive captain in test virat has had more flair and positive intent to win

Tactically he may not be that wise but i love his character and never hide emotions

The country won't find a better leader than virat at the moment
 
sshakir411 said:
I genuinely want to know. I haven't watched Kohli captain in tests.
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1. Plays to win. Understands that historically, Indian team has had issues taking 20 wickets. So is willing to play with 5 bowlers.

2. Backs pacers. Not mere line and length bowlers.

3. Not afraid to make changes (though now it has gone to an extreme level).

4. Maintains energy levels on the field. Bowlers and fielders are forced to give it all they got.

5. Poor tactically but a great leader (or was till recently).

Look at his recent press conference. Leaving aside some stupidly defensive egotistical comments, he made excellent observations which is what India needs from its captain.

Unfortunately, now he has become too big for his own boots. Ego through the roof. No one to control him.

And hence the result shows in SA.
 
sshakir411 said:
So what is Kohli's master strategy and how is it different to MSD?
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Kohli is the best available test captain in India atm. He is different to MSD because he lets the bowlers flourish. Does not dictate from bwhind the stumps that you stick to line and length all the while ignoring pace.

If it were up to MSD, the likes of Bumrah, Yadav would Never get a chance. Even shami too. We would still be seeing Dinda and Vinay in the squad.

All Kohli needs to learn is have trust in the batsmen. He loves match winners. Those match winners work in India. Not abroad.

Kohli has done wonderfully well so far. Batting let the team down.

For all praising Rahane and how his presence would have made the difference, people need to check his form of late. He was struggling against Lankan bowlers and that too in Home. Conditions. Nothing wrong in his exclusion.

It’s obvious Rahane will play 3rd Test. Let’s see how he performs. Same was said about Rahul who was also struggling for form for more than a year now. When Rahul played it was obvious why Kohli did not select him for the 1st Test.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Dhoni didn't hav ability in test cricket.

Kohli has ...
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This. MSD was not meant for test cricket especially abroad hence he never succeeded as a player moreover his ODI/ T20 results were so good it was hard to ignore him in test. He was defensive from ball 1, if he was captain SA would have declared instead of getting bowled out in these past 2 tests.
 
Kohli is better as a Test captain easily. The snore fests where we were drubbed overseas under Dhoni's captaincy were pointless to watch. At least here, there is hardly a dull passage of play.

As an ODI captain it remains to be seen since Dhoni is partial captain even now. Will be hard to surpass Dhoni though in LOIs.
 
Kohli is just a bundle of negative energy for the team tbh, don't be fooled by all that chatter he exhibits on the stump mic. Incredibly volatile, abusive on the field, chiding his fielders every second and himself proceeding to drop catches and miss run outs, reviewing stone dead decisions as a batsman, no protocol for team selections (flip flops on his reputation vs current form criteria), pressurizing players to change their game to add unnecessary "intent" to their game, has a coach and support staff put in especially to make him feel comfortable after getting Kumble kicked out of the team. Even disregarding the recommendations of the Legends panel.

Kohli's just not a captain tbh. He's a pseudo dictator who wants everything his way. With Rahane as the captain and Kumble as the coach, I'm damn sure India would be performing much much better as a unit. This will only get worse when the England tour comes and beyond.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Wow kohli managed to surpass them in this series.
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hate to say it but I told you this long time ago ... MSD would have done better if he had been given a team like this. for starters there is no way in hell Rohit and Dhawan be playing in lieu of Rahane and Rahul and you would obviously have a faar superior keeper than Parthiv.
 
Proactive_ said:
Kohli is just a bundle of negative energy for the team tbh, don't be fooled by all that chatter he exhibits on the stump mic. Incredibly volatile, abusive on the field, chiding his fielders every second and himself proceeding to drop catches and miss run outs, reviewing stone dead decisions as a batsman, no protocol for team selections (flip flops on his reputation vs current form criteria), pressurizing players to change their game to add unnecessary "intent" to their game, has a coach and support staff put in especially to make him feel comfortable after getting Kumble kicked out of the team. Even disregarding the recommendations of the Legends panel.

Kohli's just not a captain tbh. He's a pseudo dictator who wants everything his way. With Rahane as the captain and Kumble as the coach, I'm damn sure India would be performing much much better as a unit. This will only get worse when the England tour comes and beyond.
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If we do have a bad tour of England as well (If), then pretty sure the whole of India will start turning on Kohli. It will be interesting to see what happens then, and how it affects his batting form for starters.
 
Both are rubbish test captains. India's greatest test leaders are Kapil Dev and Saurav Ganguly. Those two dont even come into discussion.
 
Needs to conduct himself a lot better but Kohli over Dhoni as test captain any-day. The team plays with a commendable attitude. We lack in skill in batting department. None of the players other than Virat, Vijay and Rahane look skillful enough to score consistently away from home. A batting lineup of passengers. Pujara stays at the crease but unlike in subcontinent, you are often wondering where the next run will come from. Rahul can be really good in due time but needs to be backed completely. And Rohit and Dhawan are legends. Hope we get it all solved till the England series. I still believe this team has in it to win away.
 
Hermoine Green said:
:))) He will never be able to tie the show lace of captain Dhoni.

As a player he he is a better ODI player than Dhoni. But as a captain, he is going to be the worst one with worst brain and rubbish attitude :))
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Lost 1 test series so he isn't a bad captain. He's made bad selection calls.
 
Varun said:
If we do have a bad tour of England as well (If), then pretty sure the whole of India will start turning on Kohli. It will be interesting to see what happens then, and how it affects his batting form for starters.
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Indian team can't move forward with Kohli and Shastri at the helm tbh. They were incredibly lucky to scrape through 2-1 in the only home test series where the opposition actually came in with decent spin bowlers in Australia. Funnily, Rahane was the captain in the deciding match who looked twice the captain Kohli does when Kohli was replaced by Kuldeep who did incredibly well on the most pace friendly pitch of the series.

Kohli's value to this team is massively overstated tbh, India can very well win test matches with or without Kohli if the rampant politics in the team is contained at the earliest and some proper people are put in places of influence.
 
Didn't Kohli accuse Dhawan of cowardice against Mitchel Johnson once?
 
Proactive_ said:
Kohli's value to this team is massively overstated tbh, India can very well win test matches with or without Kohli if the rampant politics in the team is contained at the earliest and some proper people are put in places of influence.
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And who was going to Score those Nine 150+ Scores if Kohli wasnt playing ? Funniest thing I ever heard :))
 
Proactive_ said:
Indian team can't move forward with Kohli and Shastri at the helm tbh. They were incredibly lucky to scrape through 2-1 in the only home test series where the opposition actually came in with decent spin bowlers in Australia. Funnily, Rahane was the captain in the deciding match who looked twice the captain Kohli does when Kohli was replaced by Kuldeep who did incredibly well on the most pace friendly pitch of the series.

Kohli's value to this team is massively overstated tbh, India can very well win test matches with or without Kohli if the rampant politics in the team is contained at the earliest and some proper people are put in places of influence.
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Just that Shastri was no where near the Indian team then. It was Kumble, who was the coach, but I agree Kohli wouldn't have selected Kuldeep. It was a bold move by Rahane and that won us the game!
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
1. Plays to win. Understands that historically, Indian team has had issues taking 20 wickets. So is willing to play with 5 bowlers.

2. Backs pacers. Not mere line and length bowlers.

3. Not afraid to make changes (though now it has gone to an extreme level).

4. Maintains energy levels on the field. Bowlers and fielders are forced to give it all they got.

5. Poor tactically but a great leader (or was till recently).

Look at his recent press conference. Leaving aside some stupidly defensive egotistical comments, he made excellent observations which is what India needs from its captain.

Unfortunately, now he has become too big for his own boots. Ego through the roof. No one to control him.

And hence the result shows in SA.
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I think these are excellent attributes for any test captain let alone Kohli. The only thing I would point out is that when the King is brought down, his family, his flag-bearers, and his flag is wiped out. If Kohli wins, the upside is clear, if he fails, the board will over-react and throw out not just the captain but his philosophy.
I would think Kohli needs to do two things here:
- to understand at a personal level, that success might come gradually at international level not immediately. Understanding will allow him to carry the fan and selectors with him
- not make this about "the kohli way": the points you mentioned should be the foundation regardless of who plays or leads India.

It could be that his way will bear fruit now, it could be that it takes time. The best thing he can do is to make this an enduring legacy of how India should play test cricket.
 
Doubt Shastri is even involved in any sort of serious coaching. His job is basically being a yes-man for the captain.
 
Imran > Ganguly > Misbah > Kohli > Dhoni > Sarfaraz >>>>> Sachin in the captaincy hierarchy, thus far. Sarfaraz can certainly climb up the ranks once he figures out how to captain a test team.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
1. Plays to win. Understands that historically, Indian team has had issues taking 20 wickets. So is willing to play with 5 bowlers.

2. Backs pacers. Not mere line and length bowlers.

3. Not afraid to make changes (though now it has gone to an extreme level).

4. Maintains energy levels on the field. Bowlers and fielders are forced to give it all they got.

5. Poor tactically but a great leader (or was till recently).

Look at his recent press conference. Leaving aside some stupidly defensive egotistical comments, he made excellent observations which is what India needs from its captain.

Unfortunately, now he has become too big for his own boots. Ego through the roof. No one to control him.

And hence the result shows in SA.
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1. Easier to do with guy like Pandya.In Dhoni's time best pace AR we had was Binny.Though he could have tried two spinners overseas too

2.Then Umesh and even Aaron should have been backed more.He's not got the best from them which was main criticism of Dhoni .Also constant dropping of Bhuvi in Tests and Shami in ODIs(would have won CT if he played) makes no sense.Thats not how you give confidence to performers

Agree with other things .He's great on field though can be little calmer.Dhoni was very defensive abroad which Kohli isn't.Doesn't let the game drift.Leads from the front.

Overall Kohli has higher ceiling and can still do wonders.But needs to be reigned in a little.Perhaps we need some stronger coach than Shastri who's all talk.
 
Saurav said:
1. Easier to do with guy like Pandya.In Dhoni's time best pace AR we had was Binny.Though he could have tried two spinners overseas too

2.Then Umesh and even Aaron should have been backed more.He's not got the best from them which was main criticism of Dhoni .Also constant dropping of Bhuvi in Tests and Shami in ODIs(would have won CT if he played) makes no sense.Thats not how you give confidence to performers

Agree with other things .He's great on field though can be little calmer.Dhoni was very defensive abroad which Kohli isn't.Doesn't let the game drift.Leads from the front.

Overall Kohli has higher ceiling and can still do wonders.But needs to be reigned in a little.Perhaps we need some stronger coach than Shastri who's all talk.
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Good captain is someone who backs pacers but also keeps an eye on performance. Umesh has been heavily backed by Kohli.

As for Bhuvi, well he was dropped cos Kohli turned into a legendary kaptan king Kohli this series.
 
Kohli may be an idiot as a captain but he truly is an inspirational leader.

Brought back Umesh in to ensure he gets his 10fer even though spinners would have done the job in another 5 minutes.

And look at his elation when Umesh got his 10fer.

This may be just against the WI but for Umesh, it means the world.

First time in his career.

Look at the way the team celebrated it.

Wow wow wow.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Kohli may be an idiot as a captain but he truly is an inspirational leader.

Brought back Umesh in to ensure he gets his 10fer even though spinners would have done the job in another 5 minutes.

And look at his elation when Umesh got his 10fer.

This may be just against the WI but for Umesh, it means the world.

First time in his career.

Look at the way the team celebrated it.

Wow wow wow.
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Given that Thakur limped off,this effort should not be downplayed in anyway

When was the last time Indian pacer did it in India?

Dhoni would have not brought back Umesh for sure :))
 
Saurav said:
Given that Thakur limped off,this effort should not be downplayed in anyway

When was the last time Indian pacer did it in India?

Dhoni would have not brought back Umesh for sure :))
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True.

Also this is not the first time I am seeing Umesh come up with a memorable performance in India.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Kohli may be an idiot as a captain but he truly is an inspirational leader.

Brought back Umesh in to ensure he gets his 10fer even though spinners would have done the job in another 5 minutes.

And look at his elation when Umesh got his 10fer.

This may be just against the WI but for Umesh, it means the world.

First time in his career.

Look at the way the team celebrated it.

Wow wow wow.
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SIF, i think you're trying hard to signify a non event.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Kohli may be an idiot as a captain but he truly is an inspirational leader.

Brought back Umesh in to ensure he gets his 10fer even though spinners would have done the job in another 5 minutes.

And look at his elation when Umesh got his 10fer.

This may be just against the WI but for Umesh, it means the world.

First time in his career.

Look at the way the team celebrated it.

Wow wow wow.
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In one of your earlier posts, you said Kohli is corrupt. (I dont remember which thread, but it was a reply to my question of Kohli's captaincy)

Kohli is not corrupt. He is egoistic and he is an idiot. But he aint corrupt. But its his ego that makes him an inspirational captain. All he needs to do is listen a bit more to his lieutenants and a little less to Shastri. He will become a very good captain.

Shastri, the good for nothing, on the other hand......
 
Sidilicious said:
In one of your earlier posts, you said Kohli is corrupt. (I dont remember which thread, but it was a reply to my question of Kohli's captaincy)

Kohli is not corrupt. He is egoistic and he is an idiot. But he aint corrupt. But its his ego that makes him an inspirational captain. All he needs to do is listen a bit more to his lieutenants and a little less to Shastri. He will become a very good captain.

Shastri, the good for nothing, on the other hand......
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Dhawan friendship and test selections points to corruption imho.

Vijay who helped us win a test in SA was dropped after 1 test in Eng while Dhawan got the full series.

What about Rayudu decision?

Why he didnt put his foot down?

He knows he needs Dhoni in loi so puts up with his nonsense.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Dhawan friendship and test selections points to corruption imho.

Vijay who helped us win a test in SA was dropped after 1 test in Eng while Dhawan got the full series.

What about Rayudu decision?

Why he didnt put his foot down?

He knows he needs Dhoni in loi so puts up with his nonsense.
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tbf, if Dhawan ends up in the XV, then first and foremost the selectors need to be questioned.

Would you call his selection corruption? No.
It would be called corruption if it were done with intention of getting monetary benefit. I dont think thats the case here. I think its just a bit of friendship and plus Kohli is possibly awed by Dhawan's LOI exploits.

He has a habit of making decisions on logic that do not add up.

Firstly, dropping Bhuvi for the 2nd test in SA because of horses for courses. But not using the same criteria for Rohit ji.
Now, in Rohit's case it could be corruption because Rohit's brother in law is also Kohli;s manager.

But, again like Dhawan, I feel Kohli gives too much thought to this aggressive batting nonsene, and also he is awed by Rohit's batting. Lets face it, when Rohit scores, he does look better than most.

For Rayudu, I would question the selectors again. If they put someone in the XV, the captain will end up playing him.

So, in the end, I would not Kohli's decisions a factor of being corrupt. But a factor of his ego and stupidity.

I am not that worried about ego, as all great captains have had a bit of ego - Immy, Ganguly, Pataudi et all have been a bit egoistic. But they have listened to their lieutenants (Miandad for Immy, Dravid, Sachin and Kumble for Ganguly etc).

Other than Dhoni, Kohli does not have a dependable lieutenant. None that plays all 3 formats. If we can get one player that is a must in the XI of all 3 formats after Kohli, it will significantly help Kohli.

For now, we have to put up with Shastri whispering in his ear..
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Dhawan friendship and test selections points to corruption imho.

Vijay who helped us win a test in SA was dropped after 1 test in Eng while Dhawan got the full series.

What about Rayudu decision?

Why he didnt put his foot down?

He knows he needs Dhoni in loi so puts up with his nonsense.
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You were amongst the ones who said that kohli doesn't like rahul in the team.
The amount of backing he is getting is raising eyebrows, some experts have started saying that rahul is in the team coz of kohlis friendship.
If dhwan is an overseas failure than so is rahul (uptil now).
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Good captain is someone who backs pacers but also keeps an eye on performance. Umesh has been heavily backed by Kohli.

As for Bhuvi, well he was dropped cos Kohli turned into a legendary kaptan king Kohli this series.
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He most certainly has not.

If he was backed then Umesh would have played the 1st test in SA instead of debutant Bumrah. Especially after the series Umesh had against Australia in 2017 where he outbowled Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins.

And if Kohli backed Umesh so much then he wouldn't have dropped him for Kuldeep in the Lord's test either.
 
How many Indian pacers have averaged 30 in India?
 
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