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Somerset vs Pakistanis | Tour Match | Taunton | Jul 3rd-5th, 2016 | Day 1

#GreenRoars said:
Shan Masood playing on 22 off 57, and 20 runs he scored by boundaries.

Dude is not rotating strike well.
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Shan scoring runs here is a BAD BAD sign for Pakistan.

He will be selected for the Tests and then humiliate us there. But we have no other openers and Sami shouldn't be risked.. stuck with this Shan mediocrity.

Also, Hafeez was poor today. Worrying signs for us. Got bowled in a hopeless fashion, tried to score runs via boundaries probably got nervous there.

Poor temperament by both the openers.
 
Insh Allah Shan gets a 100 here, we need him more than he needs us out there. Sole left hander in the team.
 
Hawkeye said:
Shan scoring runs here is a BAD BAD sign for Pakistan.

He will be selected for the Tests and then humiliate us there. But we have no other openers and Sami shouldn't be risked.. stuck with this Shan mediocrity.

Also, Hafeez was poor today. Worrying signs for us. Got bowled in a hopeless fashion, tried to score runs via boundaries probably got nervous there.

Poor temperament by both the openers.
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Runs karay to bhi muskhkil, Runs na karay phir toh Mushkil hi Mushkil....
Akhir Kia chatay ho tum log is larkay say mere bahiyon ??? :facepalm: :facepalm:
 
This summer will be a big test for Eng. Pakistan is a fantastic test side atleast on paper. Middle order consists of players like Misbah and YK. Fast bowling of Amir, Wahab and Sohail. And then Yasir Shah.

If all clicks and plays to their potential, I dont see a reason why they cant beat Eng.

Though I will be supporting Eng but it will be a very hard fought series for us.

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Omg look at our Run rate. If we play like this in the upcoming tests we will lose by an inning or most matches will be boring draws.
 
I'm listening from the Promenade des Anglais in Nice!

A promising session. Shan Masood has lasted two hours and Azhar Ali has lasted one.

The Hafeez cameo was exactly as feared. He is simply hopeless when cricket becomes a game of attrition on and outside off-stump. Like everyone else, the only ball I have watched was his dismissal, but it was the eternal Hafeez Outside Asia dismissal: unable to judge whether he can afford to leave a ball round about off-stump, and failing to move his front foot so he got clean bowled.
 
The Last Of The Stars said:
Poor run rate, they should have been playing with 4 RR at least.
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Why?

This is exactly what they need to do in the Tests: get to 80-1 off 30 overs and then use the fifty overs with the old ball until the second new ball to score another 180.

The target should be:

80-1 at lunch off 30 overs
190-3 at tea off 60 overs.
270-4 when the second new ball is taken at 80 overs
290-5 after 90 overs.

That should set up innings scores around 420-450, which would win the series.
 
Saeed said:
Omg look at our Run rate. If we play like this in the upcoming tests we will lose by an inning or most matches will be boring draws.
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How does that work?

The only "rate" that counts in Test innings is the fall of wickets. And you lost one in a session of thirty overs, which is really good.

79-1 after 30 overs is far, far better than 120-3.
 
Junaids said:
Why?

This is exactly what they need to do in the Tests: get to 80-1 off 30 overs and then use the fifty overs with the old ball until the second new ball to score another 180.

The target should be:

80-1 at lunch off 30 overs
190-3 at tea off 60 overs.
270-4 when the second new ball is taken at 80 overs
290-5 after 90 overs.

That should set up innings scores around 420-450, which would win the series.
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Too slow, I want 400 on Day 1.
 
Junaids said:
How does that work?

The only "rate" that counts in Test innings is the fall of wickets. And you lost one in a session of thirty overs, which is really good.

79-1 after 30 overs is far, far better than 120-3.
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We're talking about a Pakistani side here. A collapse is always around the corner. So for that reason we should score at a healthy rate before we get out.
 
Solid start by Pak.

Not sure whether attritional cricket would work against better English bowlers though.
 
Indian_Supporter said:
This summer will be a big test for Eng. Pakistan is a fantastic test side atleast on paper. Middle order consists of players like Misbah and YK. Fast bowling of Amir, Wahab and Sohail. And then Yasir Shah.

If all clicks and plays to their potential, I dont see a reason why they cant beat Eng.

Though I will be supporting Eng but it will be a very hard fought series for us.

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agreed, i think it's going to be a brilliant series
 
Another median and misbah is yet to come. Thank god this is not being televised. Imagine watching this boring match.
 
The Last Of The Stars said:
Too slow, I want 400 on Day 1.
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Be my guest. If you try to score 400 we will dismiss you for 180.

I can tell you know, this has been the formula for Tests in England for decades:

70 overs (420 balls) per day bowled by quick bowlers.
20 overs maximum (120 balls) per day of spin.

350 of the 420 quick balls on or outside off-stump on a full length, with 2-4 slips in place.
200 of those 350 balls outside off-stump.
150 of those 350 balls on off-stump.
30 bouncers
40 balls off quick bowlers which are the wrong line or length or both.

Where are the deliveries to score 400 runs? You need to leave the 200 balls outside off stump alone, so you have:

150 quick balls on off-stump.
40 misdirected balls.
30 bouncers
120 balls of spin.

I repeat, you can only get to 400 off 90 overs by trying to hit balls that you should be leaving.
 
as per normal pattern of three days , I guess Pakistan will have to utilize first 90 overs and then declare. So People wanting Pakistan to score 400 will be disappointed
 
People are being harsh here.

It's a solid start. Just a bit sedate in run rate. Pakistan will do well to score at a sedate run rate and get 350 runs rather than going at 4 and getting shot out for 150.
 
People say azhar is to slow for LOI formats he should stick to tests which I can understand. But now he is playing a fort class game and batting at a slow rate he is getting flak. Strike rotation is important and nerds to be better but at least he is still there and showing he can survive in English conditions.

Azhar will do well in England
 
street cricketer said:
People are being harsh here.

It's a solid start. Just a bit sedate in run rate. Pakistan will do well to score at a sedate run rate and get 350 runs rather than going at 4 and getting shot out for 150.
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If you have Dravid, Kallis like skills, then blocking away is fine.

By the way, even they got screwed when they tried blocking too much against insane quality bowling but you get the general point.

Someone like Pujara who could block for hours on end....when he was in zone, could make 100s and 200s and be super effective. When he toured overseas and lost form and lost some of his tight technique....the same blocking ensured that he was of little impact in NZ, Eng and mostly Aus.

So it depends.

If you have the skills to make it work, blocking endlessly can be PURE DESTRUCTION.

Or else....80/1 could easily turn into 120/2 and 150/5 (which can happen against quality bowling) and all the hard work lost.
 
Azhar is someone you can probably trust to block for long.

Shan, Hafeez and others...not so much.

Misbah probably can too. Will see in the tour.
 
I think they will have to declare after 80 or 90 overs considering this is a 3 day game not FC. They can't bully the bowlers for 3 whole days.
 
Almost runout, great dive. See the pressure is getting to them. They must take single and doubles.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
If you have Dravid, Kallis like skills, then blocking away is fine.

By the way, even they got screwed when they tried blocking too much against insane quality bowling but you get the general point.

Someone like Pujara who could block for hours on end....when he was in zone, could make 100s and 200s and be super effective. When he toured overseas and lost form and lost some of his tight technique....the same blocking ensured that he was of little impact in NZ, Eng and mostly Aus.

So it depends.

If you have the skills to make it work, blocking endlessly can be PURE DESTRUCTION.

Or else....80/1 could easily turn into 120/2 and 150/5 (which can happen against quality bowling) and all the hard work lost.
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I'm not sure but I think Pak are following their UAE strategy here as well. Just deadbat the pacers into exhaustion while picking up the odd boundary and after they get changed, make hay against the spinners. I'm not sure though and it has just been one session. We should wait and see their approach after lunch and in the third session to make a conclusion.
 
There is no set formula. Every team plays to its strengths and Pakistan's strength is attritional cricket. They must back their strength and try and continue what they have been doing in UAE. It is simply impossible to try and score fast all of a sudden, will not work.
 
street cricketer said:
I'm not sure but I think Pak are following their UAE strategy here as well. Just deadbat the pacers into exhaustion while picking up the odd boundary and after they get changed, make hay against the spinners. I'm not sure though and it has just been one session. We should wait and see their approach after lunch and in the third session to make a conclusion.
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Yes they are following UAE strategy.
 
If Azhar keeps doing this in Test from No. 3, PAK should find themselves at 134/5 before tea with 35 of the 58 overs bowled by the 2 premium pacers.

No point repeating as Misbah won't change his UAE formula, at least not before 2-0; but MoHa @ 2 & Azzu at 3 are disasters to happen. MoHa has lots of potential once the new ball is done, therefore he should definitely bat at 6, while Azhar's single dimensional game can't work at 3. Biggest risk is that Azzu with his A game can cost the team more than a duck. In England, unless teams cash on from Over 30 to 80, hardly would cross 300 as the bowling game is new ball there.

Ahmed is not there, therefore Shaan is only option & he is the solo Lefti in top 7 - should remain there to open.
 
It would be interesting to see that how succesfully Pakistan would be able to replicate their attritional cricket formula. It is doing fine so far. We have only lost two wickets.
 
Cool to see two Associate bowlers doing well vs Test opposition. Van Meekeren 2 wickets and Davey economical.
 
LowKiiSavage said:
It would be interesting to see that how succesfully Pakistan would be able to replicate their attritional cricket formula. It is doing fine so far. We have only lost two wickets.
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Shan was dropped twice. He won't get these chances against England.
 
anyone got vid of Azhar's wicket.

BTW - everyone getting ants in their pants about the pace of scoring... they have to play the way they know how. New ball is still more dangerous than older ball, so it makes sense to play 20 overs cautiously and of course, a new bat can take as much time as they feel they need to get in. No issues with scoring rate.

They will not deadbat all the pacers obv in UK, but will be cautious against spearheads. Practice match is about getting your eye in.
 
Donal Cozzie said:
Cool to see two Associate bowlers doing well vs Test opposition. Van Meekeren 2 wickets and Davey economical.
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Has nothing to do with the bowlers. Pakistani batsman play slowly and get out after meeting the quota.
 
FreePalestine said:
anyone got vid of Azhar's wicket.

BTW - everyone getting ants in their pants about the pace of scoring... they have to play the way they know how. New ball is still more dangerous than older ball, so it makes sense to play 20 overs cautiously and of course, a new bat can take as much time as they feel they need to get in. No issues with scoring rate.

They will not deadbat all the pacers obv in UK, but will be cautious against spearheads. Practice match is about getting your eye in.
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https://amp.twimg.com/v/6e8454bb-4fe6-4ac6-b578-fc388235c16a
 
Azhar's wicket

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Van Meekeren has 2/25 from 13 overs on debut. Very good ball this!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WeAreSomerset?src=hash">#WeAreSomerset</a><a href="https://t.co/UL81vlKolA">https://t.co/UL81vlKolA</a></p>— Somerset Cricket (@SomersetCCC) <a href="https://twitter.com/SomersetCCC/status/749593778307014656">July 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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hussain.r97 said:
Azhar's wicket

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Van Meekeren has 2/25 from 13 overs on debut. Very good ball this!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WeAreSomerset?src=hash">#WeAreSomerset</a><a href="https://t.co/UL81vlKolA">https://t.co/UL81vlKolA</a></p>— Somerset Cricket (@SomersetCCC) <a href="https://twitter.com/SomersetCCC/status/749593778307014656">July 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Looked all over the place here. Wasn't behind the ball, poked at it, static feet, and head fell over a bit. He needs to apply himself in these conditions.
 
Younis khan is playing well. Still the best test player on Pakistani side.
 
Shot from Shan. I think he has improved his short ball game which is good to see. I think his weakness is the rising delivery and not lateral movement.
 
Saeed said:
Shan was dropped twice. He won't get these chances against England.
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To be fair one of those drops was a tough caught and bowled chance the bowler couldn't cling on to in his followthrough. It wasn't a dolly to slip.

Sometimes a batsman will have a bit of luck but it shouldn't be held against them.
 
Junaids said:
Be my guest. If you try to score 400 we will dismiss you for 180.

I can tell you know, this has been the formula for Tests in England for decades:

70 overs (420 balls) per day bowled by quick bowlers.
20 overs maximum (120 balls) per day of spin.

350 of the 420 quick balls on or outside off-stump on a full length, with 2-4 slips in place.
200 of those 350 balls outside off-stump.
150 of those 350 balls on off-stump.
30 bouncers
40 balls off quick bowlers which are the wrong line or length or both.

Where are the deliveries to score 400 runs? You need to leave the 200 balls outside off stump alone, so you have:

150 quick balls on off-stump.
40 misdirected balls.
30 bouncers
120 balls of spin.

I repeat, you can only get to 400 off 90 overs by trying to hit balls that you should be leaving.
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Your bowling is not good enough to dismiss our batting for 180.
 
Team man understands the importance of strike rotation whilst comando seems to have improved his game
 
Anyone else surprised about Sohail and Rahat playing? Or just give Imran and Wahab rest before the next match and then the first test?
 
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