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South Africa are chokers!

Atif

Atif

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SA will forever remain chokers!

Agree?


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lol bowlers are choking today left and right lots of fulltoses short balls over the head of wicket keeper also quinten de koack almost choked and threw the ball away while stumping buttler
 
Lol 20 wides. how do you explain that, other than choking?
 
They just loose it when the going gets tough in the ICC tournaments. They have some mental issues which seems to be triggered by the word ICC :D
 
Short by 15 runs? lol.

Any decent bowling attack could easily defend this. Bowling was poor, too many full tosses, too many looseners. Captaincy was equally bad, very defensive field, no inner ring to stop easy singles.

229 runs on the board, how do you lose from this? You guys choked, that's what happened.
 
It wasn't a choke. Their bowling with the exception of Tahir isn't very good. Steyn is finished as a LOI bowler and the others like Morris and Abbot are bang average. Faf's captaincy and batting was very poor too.
 
errr...they are not anymore . Eng was always the favs to win this .

on a slightly difficult situation/pitch see how their batting gets exposed .
 
The_KING said:
It wasn't a choke. Their bowling with the exception of Tahir isn't very good. Steyn is finished as a LOI bowler and the others like Morris and Abbot are bang average.
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Just because your bowling isn't good, doesn't mean you can give 20 wides. Defending 230, SA should have easily won. Mental pressure got the bowlers, it was a choke.
 
ridiculous bowling by morris could you believe this guy s worth a million, the ipl has lost its mind :mj
 
From the likes of Alan Donald and Shaun Pollock, SA are down to Kyle Abbot and Chris Morris :facepalm:
 
Itachi said:
People need to understand the meaning of choke....
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I learned to live with it. People on PP call any loss suffered by SA a choke. I'd call them stupid, but I'll reserve those words for when we actually win a WC.
 
jog_1 said:
Short by 15 runs? lol.

Any decent bowling attack could easily defend this. Bowling was poor, too many full tosses, too many looseners. Captaincy was equally bad, very defensive field, no inner ring to stop easy singles.

229 runs on the board, how do you lose from this? You guys choked, that's what happened.
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Truly idiotic things being said. Scored 220+ and the geniuses here are saying that they were short by 15 runs. Wow.

The difference between the two sides were the 24 extras that South Africa gave away compared to the four that England gifted them.
 
We they did get nervous and bowled a lot of wides.

Steyn is finished in LOIs. Was never a good LOI bowler to begin with.
 
Bilal7 said:
Truly idiotic things being said. Scored 220+ and the geniuses here are saying that they were short by 15 runs. Wow.

The difference between the two sides were the 24 extras that South Africa gave away compared to the four that England gifted them.
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exactly extras means more overs to chase it, you should easily defend 230.
 
I'm sure if the losing team wasn't SA today, nobody would be calling it a "choke". It has become a permanent tag, for some reason. Every time SA loses, that's first word that comes to everybody's mind. I think half the people here don't even understand the term "choke".

Things to consider:

1. It was a batting paradise. Anything short of a yorker disappeared into the stands today. The margin of error was unusually tight.
2. Kyle Abbott bowled a decent amount of yorkers. It took England 4 deliveries to score the winning run. Guess who's choking.
3. Joe Root is too good for most bowlers living today.
 
Bilal7 said:
Truly idiotic things being said. Scored 220+ and the geniuses here are saying that they were short by 15 runs. Wow.

The difference between the two sides were the 24 extras that South Africa gave away compared to the four that England gifted them.
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Learn from history.

"OK, guys, I think the bowlers have done their job. Now it’s up to the batsmen. They’re 15 runs short; this is a 450-wicket"

Jacques Kalis (after Australia hitting 434)

Today, Amla amd rsa misread the pitch. Simple as that.
 
Itachi said:
RSA was not anywhere in winning position. 220 is just what 350 in a 50 over odi game.
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it was 229 :mj how is that 350 in 50 overs more like 400. How many times has over 220 been chased in t20 , i like SA but its a choke plain and simple.
 
norman bates said:
it was 229 :mj how is that 350 in 50 overs more like 400. How many times has over 220 been chased in t20 , i like SA but its a choke plain and simple.
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Because of the pitch and lack of quality bowlers.

RSA bowling department is worse than india.

Steyn is finished in t20
 
They didn't choke. You choke when you lose from a winning position.

England played good cricket from ball 1.
 
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Had Englnd lost 2 wickets more in the final over, that would had been a choke,. Sa losing is not a choke really
 
Steyn bowled rubbish, he isn't suited for T20s, Amir is a better LOI bowler than Steyn. Rabada too was taken apart, South Africa needed another spinner for today's match. England was just brilliant with the bat, the way they came at Proteafire. Expecting England and West Indies to go to the next round. I have a feeling South Africa will lose against Srilanka, Herath will make it difficult for the Proteas.
 
Bilal7 said:
Truly idiotic things being said. Scored 220+ and the geniuses here are saying that they were short by 15 runs. Wow.

The difference between the two sides were the 24 extras that South Africa gave away compared to the four that England gifted them.
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England would have won even without the extras , the difference between the two sides is lack of versatile players in SA except for AB
 
Ozymandiasza said:
Rubbish bowling, but still embarrassing.
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Choking is a umbrella word, essentially collectively they had shown once again inability to preform when pressed by opposition in big tournament, they get bullied so easily, to simply put people call it choking.... There faces shows very early in the game (by third over) that they have lost it, that's mental weakness and burden of history... I don't know how they can get over this, I feel sorry for whole SA team, this should not have happened... They lack serious self belief when bullied by opposition!!

If AFG, IRE, Neitherland cannot defend 230, one can understand, but SA has lot of experience and quite a few world class bowlers(Styen, Rabada, Tahir) and three experience Captains... They never once tried to stop singles, everybody was on the edge of circle all the time, why?? - You are not here to give them batting practice... Single has to stopped, if good balls are still resulted in single, bowlers cannot have a breather... That was very poor and defensive approach...

Bowling was rubbish, but why so rubbish?? - 20 Wides... Captain has no faith in anybody after two overs?? - If it was unto Fa he was have put everybody to boundary, how can you get bullied by opposition so quickly?? - Result is your bowlers loose their confidence as well.... 11 guys who don't have any fight left in them...
 
4 extras vs 22 made all the difference.
 
norman bates said:
even with an elite batting lineup it would be an uphill task unless the bowlers and captain choke under pressure. and is england an elite batting line up?
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It is in the short form of the game, with the caveat that this applies only when they are chasing or consciously decide to go hell for leather rather than the measured approach that lost them the game against WI.
 
I think half of the posters here do not even know the meaning of choke.

When the scorecard says 44/0 after 2 overs, it is no choke but extremely poor bowling.
 
:))) :))) :))) @ the guy that said they were 15 runs short.

:)) :)) :)))
[MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION]
 
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Bangladesh beats South Africa in World Cup 2019.

Add one more to the choke count is it it even choke anymore or are they truly just an average team now
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Bangladesh beats South Africa in World Cup 2019.

Add one more to the choke count is it it even choke anymore or are they truly just an average team now
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Not a choke, both teams are pretty much equal in skills and form right now. So the better team won on day. Not everything is choke..

90s and early 2000s SA team were too good and choked few times in pressure situations, but that doesn't mean everything to do with SA cricket is a choke
 
How was this a choke? Right from the beginning Bangladesh played very good cricket and deservingly won.
 
They're not chokers. Good teams choke. South Africa is an average team, there's no expectation of them to perform well.
 
You have to feel for them. Steyn not fit, Amla is out and Ngidi got injured. Though he went for plenty in his spell, he could have bounced back later.

And the stupid AB could still play...
 
When Faf and Makram were batting, I gave up. Have to say good captaincy, captaincy and team effort won Bangladesh the match. Need the same kind of spirit against Kiwis
 
Joseph Gomes said:
They're not chokers. Good teams choke. South Africa is an average team, there's no expectation of them to perform well.
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this. the current RSA isn't chokers. they are just average and the defeats are nothing out of ordinary.
 
South Africa always under perform in ICC tournaments.They had very good teams in the past but they choke when it matters.They will always produce top class cricketers esp bowlers because their domestic cricket is very good but at international level they don't know how to win.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
But going for a run when ball barely crossed the keeper was stupidity at best.
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Also Van Der Dussen almost got run out running for a ball that was never a single, but sent back by Duminy. They still have brainfades.
 
I cannot understand why Duminy keeps getting selected never seen him do anything in all the matches I have watched.
 
For whatever it is worth and no matter how they perform South Africa need Amla and Steyn in the line up.

Right now the team looks very average on paper itself One of Duminy or Miller has to go... and if Morris is anyhow so average they can consider playing Shamsi as a second spinner.. I mean why not, India play 2 spinners all the time and with success. England are playing Ali and Rashid... Similarly Tahir and Shamsi could do well in tandem.
 
They didn't choke today, they were outplayed, out-thought and easily beaten by the better team.
 
Smbhayi said:
and you still want Mash to sit out?
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We need him as the captain, he can come in as the substitute in the field and captain the side :butt replace mithun in the field

1: Liton
2: Soumya
3: Shakib
4: Mushy
5: Mithun
6: Riyadh
7: Mosaddek
8: Miraz
9: Saifuddin
10: Rubel
11: Mustafiz

12: Mashrafee (Kaptaan)
13: Sabbir

Tamim hasn't done anything special in world cups, he is slow in the field nowadays also eats up a lot of deliveries. He was as bad as Imrul Kayes. He will go for a duck against Kiwis, better let our superstar Liton open.
 
Today it was not a choke. We just outbatted them. We were pretty professional
 
South Africa were thoroughly outplayed by Bangladesh today. This victory was as clinical as it comes.

Also, these performances make you understand the kind of pressure ABD was under once the likes of Smith, Gibbs and Kallis retired. No wonder he cracked and quit.
 
Disagree, they are just bad, rubbish batting. Avg bowling. They need ABD back
 
The Viper said:
Also Van Der Dussen almost got run out running for a ball that was never a single, but sent back by Duminy. They still have brainfades.
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There were several run out chances created by panic running between the wickets from them. Mahmdulla missed a direct hit early on.
 
Partially no!

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This "choker" tag is only applicable to their men's team.

Women's cricket is different. This tag doesn't apply to their women's team maybe.
 
Idk why records for Men and Women team are mixed up. SA men will remain chokers even if the women win 100 trophies
 
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