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Pakistan’s new cycle of the ICC World Test Championship 2025-27 will begin on 12 October, when they host the 2023-25 ICC World Test Champions South Africa for a two Test-match series. The first Test will be played at Lahore’s Gaddafi Stadium from 12 to 16 October, which will also be the first five-day match at the stadium since it’s complete renovation earlier this year to host the ICC Champions Trophy 2025.

The second Test match is scheduled to take place at the Rawalpindi Cricket Stadium from 20 to 24 October. This will be South Africa’s first Test tour to Pakistan since January 2021, when they lost a two-Test match series 2-0 to the hosts.

At the conclusion of the red-ball matches, both sides will feature in three T20Is from 28 October to 1 November, with first T20I taking place at the Rawalpindi Cricket Stadium, while the remaining two T20Is will be hosted at the Gaddafi Stadium. The series will conclude with three ODIs taking place from 4 to 8 November at the Iqbal Stadium in Faisalabad. This will be the first ODI at the stadium in 17 years, with Pakistan having beaten Bangladesh by seven wickets at the venue on 11 April, 2008.

PCB Chief Operating Officer Sumair Ahmed Syed:

“We are looking forward to welcome South Africa for the opening series of our ICC World Test Championship 2025-27 campaign. Starting the new cycle against the current Test champions will provide quality cricket for our players and fans.

“The return of ODI cricket to Faisalabad after 17 years is a special moment. Iqbal Stadium holds a proud place in our cricketing history and we are excited to bring international cricket back to this part of the country.”

South Africa tour to Pakistan

12-16 October – First Test at Gaddafi Stadium, Lahore

20-24 October – Second Test at Rawalpindi Cricket Stadium, Rawalpindi

28 October – First T20I at Rawalpindi Cricket Stadium, Rawalpindi

31 October – Second T20I at Gaddafi Stadium, Lahore

1 November – Third T20I at Gaddafi Stadium, Lahore

4 November – First ODI at Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad

6 November – Second ODI at Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad

8 November – Third ODI at Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad
 
A rare all-format tour which is good to see. Not a fan of segmented tours which has become commonplace.
 
A rare all-format tour which is good to see. Not a fan of segmented tours which has become commonplace.
I will be happy with segmented tours.am not sure where u live( in pak or outside of pak).as per my experience in aus , all 3 formats will happen in same ground say Sydney/Melbourne. We cant spend high amount both for a test match and one of limited formats .it will force any one to settle for one match .As kids will prefer a t20 than a test match, at the end we have to settle for t20 even though its not ur cup of tea.if its a segmented tour, it will give a chance to view both formats with out much stress .
 
Pakistan should win the Test series 2-0 if they give turning tracks.

ODI and T20 can go either way.
 
3 ODIs in the middle of smog month in the middle of the smog capital (central Punjab).

Bravo.
 
Will hesson agree to the industrial fans? Sa have better spinners and batsmen too.Pak can go for the slow paced pitches if not turners/flat tracks .Markram will kill the attack if its flat track.
 
If I'm in Pakistan next month I will definitely go to GSL to watch the first test.

Always wanted to see a test match there but never got the chance to. I hope people turn up because the last test that was held there (v Australia in 2022) had a fairly disappointing turnout.
 
If Pakistan prepare the same pitches they prepared in the England series (excluding first test) last year then they will be very hard to beat. South Africa are one of the weakest teams against spin-bowling. And eventhough they have an elite spinner in Maharaj, he will more than likely be carrying the load on such pitches and bowling a large quota of overs which would theoretically reduce his effectiveness. South Africa's other spin options are pretty hopeless. It will more than likely be an all-rounder like Linde or Mutusamy partnering with him.

That said, preparing lottery pitches is not the answer. On those pitches any team can win as Pakistan saw in the series against West Indies last year.
 
JOHANNESBURG: The South African Men’s selection panel has named the squads for the upcoming all-format tour of Pakistan as well as the one-off T20 International (T20I) against Namibia.

The Proteas will begin their defence of the ICC World Test Championship Mace with a two-match Test series against Pakistan from 12 - 24 October, taking place in Lahore and Rawalpindi.

Test captain Temba Bavuma has been ruled out of the series, as he continues his recovery from a left grade two calf strain sustained during the recent tour of England. In his absence, Aiden Markram will lead the side.

Momentum Multiply Titans spinner Simon Harmer has earned a recall to the national side for the first time since March 2023. He is joined by fellow spinners Senuran Muthusamy and Hollywoodbets Dolphins’ Prenelan Subrayan. Keshav Maharaj, meanwhile, has been named for the second Test only as he completes the final stages of rehabilitation from a left groin strain.

The all-format players selected for the Test series - with the exception of Titans all-rounder Corbin Bosch and Titans batter Dewald Brevis - will be rested for the white-ball leg of the Pakistan tour, which features three T20Is from 28 October - 01 November and three One-Day Internationals (ODIs) from 04 - 08 November.

David Miller will lead the T20I squad, while Dafabet Warriors batter Matthew Breetzke will stand in as captain for the ODI series. Titans batter Donovan Ferreira will take the captaincy reins in the T20I against Namibia on 11 October in Windhoek.

Quinton de Kock has been added to both T20I squads as well as the ODI squad. The 32-year-old wicketkeeper, who retired from 50-over cricket at the conclusion of the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup 2023, has reversed his retirement, citing his desire to represent the Proteas across both white-ball formats.

He also returns to the T20I setup for the first time since the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2024 final against India in Barbados last June.

There are also maiden call-ups for Ferreira and Warriors wicketkeeper Sinethemba Qeshile, who have been named in the ODI squad, as well as Titans batter Rivaldo Moonsamy, included in the T20I squad to face Namibia.

The T20I against Namibia will be the first limited-overs international match between the two national senior sides and will also mark the official opening of the Namibia Cricket Ground, one of the host venues for the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup 2027.

Convenor of Selector for the Proteas Men, Patrick Moroney said: “Getting our World Test Championship defence underway in Pakistan is an exciting moment for this group. It marks the beginning of another important cycle, and the white-ball leg of the tour also presents valuable opportunities to build depth and test ourselves against quality opposition as we continue shaping squads for the T20 and 50-over World Cups.

“We have had to contend with a number of injuries in recent months, and it has been important for the medical and management teams to work closely together to ensure we continue to field the strongest possible squads. While injuries are never ideal, they also create opportunities for other players to step up, which is an important part of building that depth across all formats.

“Temba’s calf strain will unfortunately keep him sidelined for six to eight weeks, but the focus is on giving him the best chance to be fully ready for the India tour in November.”

Proteas Men’s Head Coach Shukri Conrad added: “Naturally, we are disappointed not to have Temba available. He has been such an important leader and batter for us in the Test side, and his presence on and off the field will be missed. At the same time, the majority of the Test squad have experience of playing in the subcontinent and understand the demands that come with it, so I’m confident they will embrace the challenge.

“Pakistan is one of the tougher places to tour, and with spin-friendly conditions expected and Keshav only available from the second game, it was important to have an experienced campaigner like Simon in the squad to provide extra depth in the spin department.

“Quinton’s return to the white-ball space is a major boost for us. When we spoke last month about his future, it was clear that he still has a strong ambition to represent his country. Everyone knows the quality he brings to the side, and having him back can only benefit the team.

“Matthew has really come into his own in the 50-over space and has lead SA A and the Warriors in this format before, and I have no doubt he’ll captain the ODI side with that same character and composure which he brings to his game.”

“During the T20I series against England, I was impressed by Donovan’s maturity, his understanding of the game, and the way he connects with the younger players in the squad. His appointment as captain for the T20I against Namibia presents an exciting challenge, one that I believe will only enhance his development as a cricketer.”

The Test squad will convene for a two-day camp at the Centre of Excellence in Pretoria from 05 - 06 October, before their departure to Lahore from OR Tambo International Airport on 07 October.

Proteas Test squad against Pakistan

Aiden Markram (captain, Momentum Multiply Titans), David Bedingham (World Sports Betting Western Province), Corbin Bosch (Momentum Multiply Titans), Dewald Brevis (Momentum Multiply Titans), Tony de Zorzi (World Sports Betting Western Province), Zubayr Hamza (DP World Lions), Simon Harmer (Momentum Multiply Titans), Marco Jansen (Momentum Multiply Titans), Keshav Maharaj* (Hollywoodbets Dolphins), Wiaan Mulder (DP World Lions), Senuran Muthusamy (Dafabet Warriors), Kagiso Rabada (DP World Lions), Ryan Rickelton (DP World Lions), Tristan Stubbs (Dafabet Warriors), Prenelan Subrayen (Hollywoodbets Dolphins) and Kyle Verreynne (World Sports Betting Western Province).

*Second Test only

Proteas T20I squad against Pakistan

David Miller (captain, Hollywoodbets Dolphins), Corbin Bosch (Momentum Multiply Titans), Dewald Brevis (Momentum Multiply Titans), Nandre Burger (World Sports Betting Western Province), Gerald Coetzee (Momentum Multiply Titans), Quinton de Kock (DP World Lions), Donovan Ferreira (Momentum Multiply Titans), Reeza Hendricks (DP World Lions), George Linde (World Sports Betting Western Province), Kwena Maphaka (DP World Lions), Lungi Ngidi (Momentum Multiply Titans), Nqaba Peter (DP World Lions), Lhuan-dré Pretorius (Momentum Multiply Titans), Andile Simelane (Hollywoodbets Dolphins), and Lizaad Williams (Momentum Multiply Titans).

Proteas ODI squad against Pakistan

Matthew Breetzke (captain, Dafabet Warriors), Corbin Bosch (Momentum Multiply Titans), Dewald Brevis (Momentum Multiply Titans), Nandre Burger (World Sports Betting Western Province), Gerald Coetzee (Momentum Multiply Titans), Quinton de Kock (DP World Lions), Tony de Zorzi (World Sports Betting Western Province), Donovan Ferreira (Momentum Multiply Titans), Bjorn Fortuin (DP World Lions), George Linde (World Sports Betting Western Province), Kwena Maphaka (DP World Lions), Lungi Ngidi (Momentum Multiply Titans), Nqaba Peter (DP World Lions), Lhuan-dré Pretorius (Momentum Multiply Titans), and Sinethemba Qeshile (Dafabet Warriors).

Proteas T20I squad against Namibia

Donovan Ferreira (captain, Momentum Multiply Titans), Nandre Burger (World Sports Betting Western Province), Gerald Coetzee (Momentum Multiply Titans), Quinton de Kock (DP World Lions), Bjorn Fortuin (DP World Lions), Reeza Hendricks (DP World Lions), Rubin Hermann (North-West Dragons), Kwena Maphaka (DP World Lions), Rivaldo Moonsamy (Momentum Multiply Titans), Nqaba Peter (DP World Lions), Lhuan-dré Pretorius (Momentum Multiply Titans), Andile Simelane (Hollywoodbets Dolphins), Jason Smith (Hollywoodbets Dolphins), and Lizaad Williams (Momentum Multiply Titans).

Pakistan Tour Fixtures

Test Series


1st Test - Sunday, 12 October - Thursday, 16 October
Pakistan vs South Africa - Gaddafi Stadium, Lahore

2nd Test - Monday, 20 October - Friday, 24 October
Pakistan vs South Africa - Rawalpindi Cricket Stadium, Rawalpindi

T20I Series


1st T20I - Tuesday, 28 October
Pakistan vs South Africa - Rawalpindi Cricket Stadium, Rawalpindi

2nd T20I - Friday, 31 October
Pakistan vs South Africa - Gaddafi Stadium, Lahore

3rd T20I - Saturday, 01 November
Pakistan vs South Africa - Gaddafi Stadium, Lahore

ODI Series


1st ODI - Tuesday, 04 November
Pakistan vs South Africa - Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad

2nd ODI - Thursday, 06 November
Pakistan vs South Africa - Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad

3rd ODI - Saturday, 08 November
Pakistan vs South Africa - Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad

T20I Namibia


Saturday, 11 October
Namibia vs South Africa – Namibia Cricket Ground, Windhoek
 
Surprised to see de Kock back. I wonder what the reason is.

Pakistan should rest some of their first team players for the ODIs. There is nothing to be gained from beating a second-string South African side, but much to lose by losing to them.
 
Surprised to see de Kock back. I wonder what the reason is.

Pakistan should rest some of their first team players for the ODIs. There is nothing to be gained from beating a second-string South African side, but much to lose by losing to them.
Test series sajid and noman going to be handful again it's gonna be fun watching them.
 
Surprised to see de Kock back. I wonder what the reason is.

Pakistan should rest some of their first team players for the ODIs. There is nothing to be gained from beating a second-string South African side, but much to lose by losing to them.
50 over World Cup at home

South Africa big favourites to win.

QDQ one last ride for his country

Klaasen should come back too.
 
ODI Series

1st ODI - Tuesday, 04 November
Pakistan vs South Africa - Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad

2nd ODI - Thursday, 06 November
Pakistan vs South Africa - Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad

3rd ODI - Saturday, 08 November
Pakistan vs South Africa - Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad

A lot of these RizBar cry babies are gonna have their Tassali done in this series
 
Surprised to see de Kock back. I wonder what the reason is.

Pakistan should rest some of their first team players for the ODIs. There is nothing to be gained from beating a second-string South African side, but much to lose by losing to them.
lol. A second string South Africa team can still be a challenge for most teams especially Pak. We hardly play any tests and in Odi’s we are quite weak. Our seniors need as much experience as possible. Right now our test at home strategy is make rank turners and pack the team with spinners. So where do the fast bowlers get to test themselves against the best?
 
Surprised to see de Kock back. I wonder what the reason is.

Pakistan should rest some of their first team players for the ODIs. There is nothing to be gained from beating a second-string South African side, but much to lose by losing to them.
Triggering Amir and Imad for another comeback
 
Oh we are giving QDK pindi and Lahore? Yeah PK is finished 🤣🤣.

Especially if the lineup is Abdullah, Babar, Rizwan at 1,3 and 4 lol.
 
Pakistan needs to beat these kind of sides well for them to make a statement for next year's World Cup. If you lose to these second string sides, then there's no point in crying when we lose to India in world tournaments.
 
Pakistan needs to beat these kind of sides well for them to make a statement for next year's World Cup. If you lose to these second string sides, then there's no point in crying when we lose to India in world tournaments.
Doesn't matter what side of south africa playing they are always good pakistan have to play good cricket.
 
50 over World Cup at home

South Africa big favourites to win.

QDQ one last ride for his country

Klaasen should come back too.
If they can convince de Kock, they can convince Klaasen to come back too.

South African side is suddenly looking even more dangerous and destructive. And they haven't even debuted Donovan Ferreirra in ODI yet. I guess they were not convinced with Rickleton at the top.
 
lol. A second string South Africa team can still be a challenge for most teams especially Pak. We hardly play any tests and in Odi’s we are quite weak. Our seniors need as much experience as possible. Right now our test at home strategy is make rank turners and pack the team with spinners. So where do the fast bowlers get to test themselves against the best?
I feel that if Pakistan win they will take the wrong lessons from this, which has often been the case in the past when they have won bilateral series against second string teams. I guess you could play Babar and Rizwan since they have been on a break because of Asia Cup. But is there really a need to play all the senior players like the seamers?
 
If they can convince de Kock, they can convince Klaasen to come back too.

South African side is suddenly looking even more dangerous and destructive. And they haven't even debuted Donovan Ferreirra in ODI yet. I guess they were not convinced with Rickleton at the top.
I think they want Rickleton and QDQ

Markram at 3/4 and RVD
 
One interesting selection in South Africa's test squad is Simon Harmer. He's a very experienced campaigner in county cricket for Essex. Has been playing for them since the Kolpak days. I think South Africa would like someone of his experience in there, especially if Maharaj is missing the first test. He did fairly well on some rank-turners in India 10 years ago, but it's been a couple of years since he last played for South Africa.
 
I think they want Rickleton and QDQ

Markram at 3/4 and RVD
Don't think so. Markram has transitioned to the opening slot in all formats. Breetzke is their man for 3 or 4, depending on Bavuma's fitness.
 
If they can convince de Kock, they can convince Klaasen to come back too.

South African side is suddenly looking even more dangerous and destructive. And they haven't even debuted Donovan Ferreirra in ODI yet. I guess they were not convinced with Rickleton at the top.
This is great for RSA. I was not convinced at all with their lineup especially with Bavuma, Rickleton and Stubbs despite winning in OZ and ENG.

Conrad has pulled a coup with QDK .

If he can get Klaasen and Miller onboard, they can potentially have a Top 8 of

QDK
Markram
Breetzke
Klassen
Miller
Brevis
Mulder
Jansen

It might be a bit too white but they need to balance their quotas before the World Cup and this lineup has a strong chance of winning it.
 
This is great for RSA. I was not convinced at all with their lineup especially with Bavuma, Rickleton and Stubbs despite winning in OZ and ENG.

Conrad has pulled a coup with QDK .

If he can get Klaasen and Miller onboard, they can potentially have a Top 8 of

QDK
Markram
Breetzke
Klassen
Miller
Brevis
Mulder
Jansen

It might be a bit too white but they need to balance their quotas before the World Cup and this lineup has a strong chance of winning it.
This is the kind of batting line-up that can strike fear in the heart of the opposition. Especially on tracks that these guys consider home. Feels like a complete line-up for ODI cricket if you include Rabada, Maharaj and Coetzee too.

Bavuma should do everyone a favor and retire because his injuries are getting too much, and I don't see it getting any better in the next two years.
 
It might be a bit too white but they need to balance their quotas before the World Cup and this lineup has a strong chance of winning it.
Exactly. Use the useless T20 bilaterals and whatnot to balance transformation targets so that you don't have to worry about any of that during the World Cup. If they win the World Cup at home I don't think anyone in South Africa will care if they missed the target by however many percent.
 
This is the kind of batting line-up that can strike fear in the heart of the opposition. Especially on tracks that these guys consider home. Feels like a complete line-up for ODI cricket if you include Rabada, Maharaj and Coetzee too.
Those are exactly the players I had in mind as well to complete that first XI

They've usually either lacked batting firepower or squad experience in all their failed campaigns.

Great opportunity for Conrad to rectify historical mistakes
 
Those are exactly the players I had in mind as well to complete that first XI

They've usually either lacked batting firepower or squad experience in all their failed campaigns.

Great opportunity for Conrad to rectify historical mistakes
Reminds me of 2019 when AB wanted to come back for the World Cup at the last moment but Faf declined. I understood both view-points, particularly that of Faf who felt AB didn't respect the team enough to make this call at the last moment, but at the same time you do wonder how South Africa's World Cup campaign would have turned out with someone like him still in the squad.
 
Nice to see us play a test series for a change. I would have preferred 3 tests, but 2 tests are still better than nothing.

Also, nice to see no Karachi for a change. They don't deserve to host any matches.

I am sick of always seeing Lahore, Karachi, Rawalpindi & Multan always host matches, so it is nice to see another city, Faisalabad, get to host some matches.
 
Reminds me of 2019 when AB wanted to come back for the World Cup at the last moment but Faf declined. I understood both view-points, particularly that of Faf who felt AB didn't respect the team enough to make this call at the last moment, but at the same time you do wonder how South Africa's World Cup campaign would have turned out with someone like him still in the squad.
Yeah they looked terrible with Amla a pale shadow of the batsman he was at his peak and a bowling attack that was really struggling without Steyn and Morkel.
 
Nice to see us play a test series for a change. I would have preferred 3 tests, but 2 tests are still better than nothing.

Also, nice to see no Karachi for a change. They don't deserve to host any matches.

I am sick of always seeing Lahore, Karachi, Rawalpindi & Multan always host matches, so it is nice to see another city, Faisalabad, get to host some matches.

Agree.

Test is the ultimate format. I am tired of T20. Too much T20.
 
I feel that if Pakistan win they will take the wrong lessons from this, which has often been the case in the past when they have won bilateral series against second string teams. I guess you could play Babar and Rizwan since they have been on a break because of Asia Cup. But is there really a need to play all the senior players like the seamers?
You are very confident of a Pak win. Our senior bowlers whoever they are need a lot of practice in the longer format.
 
South Africa has decided to rest Markram, Rabada, Stubbs, Jansen, and Maharaj for the white-ball tour of Pakistan.

Is this an insult to Pakistan cricket, because it treats Pak cricket like Zimbabwe?

When was the last time a team played with full strength side against Pakistan in bilateral series

:kp
 
You are very confident of a Pak win. Our senior bowlers whoever they are need a lot of practice in the longer format.
If we win, it means nothing because we beat a second-string side. If we lose, it's even more embarrassing because then people will say that your first choice team couldn't even beat their second-string team. It's a lose-lose situation. Better to use the series to try out some new players.
 
One interesting selection in South Africa's test squad is Simon Harmer. He's a very experienced campaigner in county cricket for Essex. Has been playing for them since the Kolpak days. I think South Africa would like someone of his experience in there, especially if Maharaj is missing the first test. He did fairly well on some rank-turners in India 10 years ago, but it's been a couple of years since he last played for South Africa.
It's a low bar but he has comfortably been the best spinner in county cricket since he has played. He is rated very highly here.
 
If we win, it means nothing because we beat a second-string side. If we lose, it's even more embarrassing because then people will say that your first choice team couldn't even beat their second-string team. It's a lose-lose situation. Better to use the series to try out some new players.
Once again you seem to think Pak will win. I’m not so sure. We wrong footed England and surprised them be making a rank turner. But West Indies were prepared. As Australia were prepared and now South Africa are prepared.

An all spin strategy is not much of a strategy
 
Once again you seem to think Pak will win. I’m not so sure. We wrong footed England and surprised them be making a rank turner. But West Indies were prepared. As Australia were prepared and now South Africa are prepared.

An all spin strategy is not much of a strategy
I was talking about the ODI series.

Ofcourse Pakistan should play their best team in the test series. We are a rubbish test side as it is.
 
Test series can be competitive but I think White-ball thrashing is coming for Pakistan...
 
We are not a rubbish test side but bowlers definitely need to step up. Two of the bowling spots pick themselves. Noman and Sajid. Two bowlers from abbas Mir hamza and Khurram shaheen Naseem is the only issue.
 
Once again you seem to think Pak will win. I’m not so sure. We wrong footed England and surprised them be making a rank turner. But West Indies were prepared. As Australia were prepared and now South Africa are prepared.

An all spin strategy is not much of a strategy
Spin strategy is a solid strategy as long you don't make minefields and you are confident that on decent spinning matches you have better spinners than the opposition
 
Spin strategy is a solid strategy as long you don't make minefields and you are confident that on decent spinning matches you have better spinners than the opposition
Yes plus the obvious banana skin that we are worse at playing half decent spin as the opposition is at playing good spin.

India were successful for many reasons in the 1990’s 2000’s but this point has been as glaring as can be. many opposition couldn’t play kumble or harbajan but Indians could play any opposition spinner.

Sri Lanka too. Could play any spinner but few have been able to master murali and herath.

Paks ability to play spin is on par with England or West Indies not India or Sri Lanka. It’s going to be competitive for sure.
 
PCB Chairman Mohsin Naqvi met with Pakistan Test team captain Shan Masood and coach Azhar Mahmood.

The discussion focused on preparations for the upcoming Test series against South Africa.

Captain Shan Masood and coach Azhar Mahmood have been given a free hand regarding the Test team.

"You have my full support for the Test series against South Africa," said Mohsin Naqvi.
 
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Surprised to see de Kock back. I wonder what the reason is.

Pakistan should rest some of their first team players for the ODIs. There is nothing to be gained from beating a second-string South African side, but much to lose by losing to them.
It's not second string...they played Same side against England and Australia recently...now even Quionton de kock is addition......Rabada didn't play odi series
 
I hope the tracks are like England series and not windies series. Spin tracks are fine bust dust bowls are bad
 
Sa have recently won icc test championship our best chance is spin friendly wicket.this should be our bowling lineup
Khurram shehzad
Abrar ahmed
Noman ali
Sajid khan
 
I hope the tracks are like England series and not windies series. Spin tracks are fine bust dust bowls are bad
Didn't Pakistan create turning pitches in the second and third Tests against England using industrial fan ? They even played the third Test on a used pitch – the first time a Test had been played on a used pitch.

:kp
 
Didn't Pakistan create turning pitches in the second and third Tests against England using industrial fan ? They even played the third Test on a used pitch – the first time a Test had been played on a used pitch.

:kp
Do you need me to explain difference between pitches for England series and windies series?

Try to do some homework yourself.
 
Overdid it with west indies series. Turned it into a bit of a lottery.

Overdid it with the first test against England where it hardly spun.

2nd and 3rd test were ok both teams could compete with spin.

Against South Africa Can’t go so far as to completely relegate fast bowlers to non entities as it does nothing to develop our own team. But it’s quite hard to get the balance just right.
 
Do you need me to explain difference between pitches for England series and windies series?

Try to do some homework yourself.
I have watched the series so I don't need any explanation.

England series ( Both Multan test ) pitches were similar to Westindies series thanks to industrial fan.

:kp
 
I have watched the series so I don't need any explanation.

England series ( Both Multan test ) pitches were similar to Westindies series thanks to industrial fan.

:kp
Both pitches were not the same. One strip had 4 days wear the other about 7 days by the end of it. Turned into a lottery
 
Both pitches were not the same. One strip had 4 days wear the other about 7 days by the end of it. Turned into a lottery
Are Bhai , Pitches of England series ( Last two test ) and Westindies series were rank Turner. That is my point :kp
 
Are Bhai , Pitches of England series ( Last two test ) and Westindies series were rank Turner. That is my point :kp
I know it’s your point. What I am saying and others are pointing out is that these turners went from turners to lotteries with the significant play over so many days from October 24 to January 2025. After so many days play by the time the 2nd West Indies test came round the Multan pitch had deteriorated too much to be viable international standard wicket.

So Pakistan should be careful in how they prepare pitches. Not go over board trying to get exaggerated turn from day one. It can back fire.

Nor should the over prepare like the first Multan pitch where it’s just flat and does nothing.
 
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