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For me it has to be:
Shadab out ——> Usman in
Danish out ——> Shafique in
Asif out ———> Haider in
Hasnain out ——> Hasan in
 
Absolutely. But instead of shafique maybe nawaz should be tried. Shafique isn't suited for no.6
 
For me it has to be:
Shadab out ——> Usman in
Danish out ——> Shafique in
Asif out ———> Haider in
Hasnain out ——> Hasan in

How about play completely new 11 players. Relax man, Danish and Hasnain must play next game, they are new and need experience, this is the reason we have failed to develop as a cricket team, sab apni marzi chahte hain, but no one gives a toss about players, who performs for so long and get selected atleast give them 20 games before judging them, if hafeez and malik can play till their 40s and possibly retirement age, then newbies deserve long run.

For me next I would go with this line up -

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Rizwan
Danish
Sarfraz ahmed
Shadab as a batsmen and should only be used for 5 overs max.
Fahim
Hassan Ali
Rauf
Hasnain

Shaheen need a rest.
 
Asif Ali deserves to be dropped. Replace him with Haider or Abdullah.

Hasan Ali should come back in.

Shadab and Danish Aziz’s places also need to be looked at.
 
I agree with all but I'd say give Danish one more chance so that he gets the full chance to prove himself this series. I know he hasn't been impressive, but I'm thinking on the lines of players getting a proper opportunity as opposed to playing 1-2 games and then dropped as we've seen this too many times. Them being selected in the first place is a whole other topic of discussion, but I hope that Danish isn't one of those 1-2 games played and then dropped immediately after.
 
Asif Ali deserves to be dropped. Replace him with Haider or Abdullah.

Hasan Ali should come back in.

Shadab and Danish Aziz’s places also need to be looked at.

Its selection team fault, he should have made debut in Pakistan at home conditions to get experience, but we thrown him in SA in tough conditions not fair, this is not how u develop players.
 
Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Rizwan
Haider
Sarfaraz
Faheem
Nawaz
Hasan Ali
Husnain
Shaheen
Asif should never play for Pak again. He isn't good enough for domestic cricket. I will drop danish because another failure will break his confidence completely. Will ease him in international cricket against an easier opponent.
Sarfaraz is way better better than asif. Can atleast score run a ball 40. Shadab the "VC" will be dropped and nawaz will get a game
 
For me it has to be:
Shadab out ——> Usman in
Danish out ——> Shafique in
Asif out ———> Haider in
Hasnain out ——> Hasan in

Think Hassan must play but Danish - think he should continue to play because they have to be fair to him.
 
Haris Sohail needs to enter the field of the 3rd ODI from a PAF helicopter in a black leather jacket like Shah Rukh Khan in Kabi Khushi Kabi Ghum.

Enough of these two bit hacks polluting the middle order. Misbah and Md Wasim or whoever else wanted Haris dropped needs to answer for their crimes.

Also, Rizwan is a dear friend of mine, but he needs to perform now too. When it matters. I expect the best from him and Babar.
 
These would be my three changes:

Hassan Ali in for Hasnain

Haider Ali in for Asif Ali

Nawaz in for Shadab

Danish deserves the full series since he is new.
 
These would be my three changes:

Hassan Ali in for Hasnain

Haider Ali in for Asif Ali

Nawaz in for Shadab

Danish deserves the full series since he is new.

That seems sensible, but I think they are saving Hassan for the t20s. Might be a case for Sarfaraz coming in as a specialist batsman for the series decider? Poor Danish looks like a rabbit in headlights and we need some experience in the middle order. Not ideal but needs must.
 
Definently need to get haider ali in the team.

So asif and danish need to go

Probably bringing in nawaz might be option can't be any worse with the bat plus is very economical bowler who is also very good at bowling in the powerplays definetly brings more options to the team.
 
For me it has to be:
Shadab out ——> Usman in
Danish out ——> Shafique in
Asif out ———> Haider in
Hasnain out ——> Hasan in

Leg spin has been pretty ineffective in this series so far so i don't see Qadir doing much. I'd bring in Nawaz over Shadab instead so the batting stays relatively steady.
 
How can people be thinking of multiple changes, have you forgotten who the coach is?
 
Asif out ———> Haider in
Hasnain out ——> Hasan in

Shadab worth another game. His performance in the match won was reasonable. No point culling everyone after a loss.

With Haris injured then Danish probably gets another chance.
 
Hope SSA and Hassan show up for the game and take the coward qdk to cleaners.
 
Yes along with other key SA players

Pakistan winning now would not mean as much in my eyes

Nah, doesn't matter, it's not Pak's fault and you can only play what's in front of you.

SA also need a good whalopping for their insolence.
 
Pakistan play the experienced guys relatively better than the inexperienced ones. The 3rd odi will be much tougher because we are definitely going to make a complete unknown a hero.
 
Shadab asif out
Qadir haider in

Bits n pieces always go missing in challenging situations. Wonder how long it'll take for misbah and babar to realize that.
 
For me it has to be:
Shadab out ——> Usman in
Danish out ——> Shafique in
Asif out ———> Haider in
Hasnain out ——> Hasan in

I'd rather see Danish given another chance. Maybe bring in Usman for Haris Rauf to exploit the Saffers vulnerability against spin.
 
Momentum with SA and with our brain dead management, they stand a good chance to take the series even with a depleted squad
 
South Africa's bowling attack next game is going to be Sipamla, Dala, Hendricks and Phehlukwayo.... :rabada2

If Pakistan doesn't win with 10 overs to spare or by 100+ runs.....
 
Just don't see the logic behind dropping Hasnain after one bad game. People need to chill.

He does need to pitch the ball up in the next game. Learn from Hassan Ali since Waqar cannot impart his own methods to the youngsters.
 
To be honest I don’t understand what the PCB is doing with Waqar. Becoming the coach for the 4th time in the last 15 years yet he still has so much ego and can’t pass on any skills to the younger guys. Which incompetent person brought him back. This guy had some of the most lethal Yorkers in history and I don’t think I’ve seen a single yorker in this series from anyone. What does he tell them at training? Death bowling is a huge concern. Pakistan were by far the best team when it came to bowling toe crushing Yorkers with their dangerous reverse swing. Sadly I think that era ended when Umar Gul retired.
 
The only players who get to stay in the team as of now are Fakhar, Imam, Babar, Shaheen, and Haris Rauf.

Rauf makes the cut only because he bowled with some sense in the last ODI, and wasn't a complete scattergun.

The bulk of the changes need to come in the middle order.

We can start by removing Asif for Haider.

Rizwan has been pretty inconsistent in ODIs, and he's averaging less than Sarfaraz even, with an average of 29.6. I'd keep him for now, but Sarfaraz should replace Danish Aziz.

Now comes the case with Shadab. I think he needs to be dropped for his own good, and he should be sent to the NHPC to train and perhaps build upon his skillset and his control in the bowling. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be playing Usman Qadir either. Shamsi and Shadab, both wristspinners, got a hammering in the series, so it would be better to go with Nawaz, and the added bonus he provides with his batting.

Hasnain should get chances in the T20s, but I think he needs to work on his endurance and stamina for the ODI game. He should get replaced with Hasan Ali.

The final team I would play looks like this:

Fakhar Zaman
Imam-ul-Haq
Babar Azam (c)
Mohammad Rizwan
Sarfaraz Ahmed
Haider Ali
Mohammad Nawaz
Faheem Ashraf
Hasan Ali
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Haris Rauf

The only issue with this is the lack of a 6th bowling option, which is why Rizwan could miss out for Sarfaraz to accomodate either Shadab Khan or Danish Aziz.
 
How about play completely new 11 players. Relax man, Danish and Hasnain must play next game, they are new and need experience, this is the reason we have failed to develop as a cricket team, sab apni marzi chahte hain, but no one gives a toss about players, who performs for so long and get selected atleast give them 20 games before judging them, if hafeez and malik can play till their 40s and possibly retirement age, then newbies deserve long run.

For me next I would go with this line up -

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Rizwan
Danish
Sarfraz ahmed
Shadab as a batsmen and should only be used for 5 overs max.
Fahim
Hassan Ali
Rauf
Hasnain

Shaheen need a rest.

Difference is the process. Has Danish been given exposure at A team tours especially to SENA? Had he performed on these tours, he would have found it easier to adapt at intl level.
Its totally unfair to throw him like this at intl level without much exposure.
 
South Africa's bowling attack next game is going to be Sipamla, Dala, Hendricks and Phehlukwayo.... :rabada2

If Pakistan doesn't win with 10 overs to spare or by 100+ runs.....

Pakistan should have won first match comfortably against their best attack instead of taking to the last ball, and in the second match if they had made a couple of changes Pakistan would have won that also.

And now when SA play a second string attack, knowing Pakistan well, they might lose the match.
 
Pakistan should have won first match comfortably against their best attack instead of taking to the last ball, and in the second match if they had made a couple of changes Pakistan would have won that also.


Ifs, buts and should haves work both ways.

If Van Der Dussen had taken that dolly of Rizwan(?) or had Ngidi didn't bowl that no-ball , South Africa would have led this series 2-0.....

All that matters is what actually happened as we or no one can predict those tangibles.
 
It is a shame Shadab will not be fit, he has missed a lot of cricket already and he is a vital player for Pakistan as he provides balance to batting as an all rounder and can be relied to deliver atleast 5 overs with some effectiveness. More he bowl the better he will get. These pitches have nothi g for spinners, Shamshi the specialist spinner got hammered. I expect Usman Qadir ri provide more turn and he will be bowling to some less experienced SA batsmen too. Hasnain has bowled well despite couple of overs where some runs were leaked but that happens on a flat wicket in a high scoring game. Haris also bowled better than last game. So no changes are required in pace bowling. For god sake no more Asif Ali ever, it took Pak long time to get rid of Iftikhar, now we need to retire Asif Ali too from internationals. Sarfraz should be given a game ahead of Danish too as Danish will flop here again due to alien conditions for him. However, Danish offers few overs of tidy spin. Only other option is Nawaz if we need bowling too but his batting is terrible.
 
Think Hassan must play but Danish - think he should continue to play because they have to be fair to him.

Yes I think Danish needs another chance, dropped after 2 matches is unfair plus they don’t have any express bowlers anymore.
 
1. Imam Ul Haq
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Azam (c)
4. Abdullah Shafique
5. Muhammad Rizwan
6. Danish Aziz
7. Muhammad Nawaz/Muhammad Wasim jr
8. Faheem Ashraf
9. Shaheen Afridi
10. Muhammad Hasnain/Hassan Ali
11. Hairs Rauf
 
1 Imam Ul Haq
2 Fakhar Zaman
3 Babar Azam
4 Haider Ali
5 Mohammad Rizwan
6 Sarfaraz Ahmed
7 Fahim Ashraf
8 Hassan Ali
9 Mohammad Nawaz
10 Mohammad Hassnain
11 Haris Rauf
 
The only players who get to stay in the team as of now are Fakhar, Imam, Babar, Shaheen, and Haris Rauf.

Rauf makes the cut only because he bowled with some sense in the last ODI, and wasn't a complete scattergun.

The bulk of the changes need to come in the middle order.

We can start by removing Asif for Haider.

Rizwan has been pretty inconsistent in ODIs, and he's averaging less than Sarfaraz even, with an average of 29.6. I'd keep him for now, but Sarfaraz should replace Danish Aziz.

Now comes the case with Shadab. I think he needs to be dropped for his own good, and he should be sent to the NHPC to train and perhaps build upon his skillset and his control in the bowling. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be playing Usman Qadir either. Shamsi and Shadab, both wristspinners, got a hammering in the series, so it would be better to go with Nawaz, and the added bonus he provides with his batting.

Hasnain should get chances in the T20s, but I think he needs to work on his endurance and stamina for the ODI game. He should get replaced with Hasan Ali.

The final team I would play looks like this:

Fakhar Zaman
Imam-ul-Haq
Babar Azam (c)
Mohammad Rizwan
Sarfaraz Ahmed
Haider Ali
Mohammad Nawaz
Faheem Ashraf
Hasan Ali
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Haris Rauf

The only issue with this is the lack of a 6th bowling option, which is why Rizwan could miss out for Sarfaraz to accomodate either Shadab Khan or Danish Aziz.

What about putting in Muhammad Wasim Jr as that bowling option plus he bats? Even though I wouldn’t be very afraid of the South Africa XI to come, with all their main players gone it’s about the wickets of Dussen and Bauvma other than that they look pretty basic on paper with no express bowlers at their disposal.
 
Middle overs bowling was pretty ineffective in both the matches for Pak and to be honest in the modern day cricket that is the issue with most teams.

SA is generally a pretty difficult place for spinner and Shadab didnt look much threatening. Next match is in Centurion and even Imran Tahir averaged 45 there, so Pak will have to make a call that whether they want to go with the attacking option in Usman Qadir as it can go either way or more of a tight line and length option in Nawaz.

I will give Danish the third match as well while Haider surely needs to replace Asif Ali (Have had ample opportunities in his career).

Imam
Fakhar
Babar (C)
Rizwan (WK)
Haider
Danish
Faheem
Nawaz/ Qadir
Hassan Ali
Shaheen
Haris Rauf
 
We could have won this 3-0 in theory. Guess we prefer to have Hafeez*, Imad and Hassan benched with Asif, Danish, Rauf as the preferred replacements.

Would be unfair on Hasnain to sit out for Rauf on the next one.

*Based on the idea that MH has not retired from LoIs but only Tests. Also, fail to see the argument of building towards 2023 with MH’s exclusion - it’s not like the remainder of the team has people north of 35 etc. By my count MH, is the only one. And given his fitness and combination of form/experience, I fail to see his exclusion.

In theory, a Top 4/5 of Rizwan, Imam, Babar, Hafeez, Haris/Fakhar (the more consistently able of the two) can be pencilled in for ‘23. Given Haris’ fitness and lack of recent form, albeit in Tests, and Fakhar’s fleeting but eye catching heroics which we are unlikely to let forget, it may well be Imam and Fakhar at the top with Babar, Rizwan and Hafeez to follow.

Two-three out of Imad, Faheem, Shadab, Nawaz in some combination could pave the way for Hassan, Shaheen and one-two other bowlers.

No clue why PAK cannot play such a combination and have c. 7 possible bowlers with some of them having some batting ability.

PAK should be challenging for Top 4 with this *in theory*, but with Danish Aziz, Asif, Rauf and co. we shall continue to have nail biters against ZIM and AFG.

As always, I expect PAK to figure this out on the eve of elimination from the tournament.
 
Really?? Some people want Husnain out of the playing XI already, after just 2 matches? Finally after such a long time we have a opening bowler alongside Afridi who can move the new ball and bow at pace and people are coming after him already. The same people probably went after Haris, but after his decent performance in the 2nd odi cant do that anymore and are now after poor Husnain.
 
They should go on with the same team... It will be extremely unfair on Haider to get one game to prove his worth... We all know why Asif Ali has been preferred over him in a starting 11 for ODI's despite his very ordinary or non-existent performances over the past couple of years in national team, so lets not make Asif Ali's case stronger here by giving Haider the last game and that too a series decider.
The sooner Misbah is parked away from his duties, the dead rubber from the team will start getting eliminated. Until then stay Calm !
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Haider Ali has been suffering from toothache. However the pain has eased and he is available for selection for the 3rd ODI against South Africa <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SAvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SAvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1379130668190470149?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2021</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Haider Ali has been suffering from toothache. However the pain has eased and he is available for selection for the 3rd ODI against South Africa <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SAvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SAvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1379130668190470149?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Oh God, just go and get the tooth extracted lol
 
Really?? Some people want Husnain out of the playing XI already, after just 2 matches? Finally after such a long time we have a opening bowler alongside Afridi who can move the new ball and bow at pace and people are coming after him already. The same people probably went after Haris, but after his decent performance in the 2nd odi cant do that anymore and are now after poor Husnain.

I think the bowling line-up i wouldn't change, you could perhaps entertain the idea of Hassan Ali coming in, someone who can bat a little as well:

1. Imam
2. Fakhar
3. Babar
4. Abdullah Shafique
5. Muhammad Rizwan
6. Muhammad Nawaz/Danish Aziz
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Hassan Ali/Muhammad Wasim Jr
9. Muhammad Hassnain
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Haris Rauf
 
To be honest I don’t understand what the PCB is doing with Waqar. Becoming the coach for the 4th time in the last 15 years yet he still has so much ego and can’t pass on any skills to the younger guys. Which incompetent person brought him back. This guy had some of the most lethal Yorkers in history and I don’t think I’ve seen a single yorker in this series from anyone. What does he tell them at training? Death bowling is a huge concern. Pakistan were by far the best team when it came to bowling toe crushing Yorkers with their dangerous reverse swing. Sadly I think that era ended when Umar Gul retired.

At best he is an academy coach, that's why he was rejected as coach for australian state team. He has extremely poor critical, analytical and tactical planning skills. Misbah is even worse.
 
They should go on with the same team... It will be extremely unfair on Haider to get one game to prove his worth... We all know why Asif Ali has been preferred over him in a starting 11 for ODI's despite his very ordinary or non-existent performances over the past couple of years in national team, so lets not make Asif Ali's case stronger here by giving Haider the last game and that too a series decider.
The sooner Misbah is parked away from his duties, the dead rubber from the team will start getting eliminated. Until then stay Calm !

Asif Ali's international career is over anyway. This is not an audition for Haider as he has shown enough (by Pakistan's low standards) to be an auto-pick for LOI's going forward even if he gets a duck on Wednesday.
 
1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Imam-ul-Haq
3. Babar Azam (C)
4. Abdullah Shafique
5. Mohammed Rizwan (WK)
6. Haider Ali
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Usman Qadir
9. Hasan Ali/Haris Rauf
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Mohammed Hasnain
 
1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Imam-ul-Haq
3. Babar Azam (C)
4. Abdullah Shafique
5. Mohammed Rizwan (WK)
6. Haider Ali
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Usman Qadir
9. Hasan Ali/Haris Rauf
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Mohammed Hasnain

Almost what i have but i think it won't be wise dropping Rauf for Hassan Ali seeing as he did quite well in his last match and nabbed a few wickets in the first ODI to limit the progress.

Abdullah I'm all for giving him the nod at no. 4 as well, however i think with Wednesday being the last ODI might as well trial Danish again.

In place of Qadir i would rather see Nawaz who might be a good option, i'd also play Muhammad Wasim Jr or Hassan Ali in place of Haider which gives you another pace option.
 
Asif Ali's international career is over anyway. This is not an audition for Haider as he has shown enough (by Pakistan's low standards) to be an auto-pick for LOI's going forward even if he gets a duck on Wednesday.
Guess what he can still not make it to the playing 11 for the first match of the series ahead of Asif Ali. Everything that is wrong with our cricket.
 
If PAK has any spine, they will crush the Proteas.
 
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1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Imam-ul-Haq
3. Babar Azam (C)
4. Abdullah Shafique
5. Mohammed Rizwan (WK)
6. Haider Ali
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Usman Qadir
9. Hasan Ali/Haris Rauf
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Mohammed Hasnain

Solid XI.

Now I'm thinking maybe Pak should keep on resting Hasan Ali and persist with Rauf 🤔
 
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Watch out that candy :)) Legend has it Kohli stopped eating toffies and became a beast :vk
 
It’s cute people putting guys like haider in

Chances are the lobbies will get their wish and Sarfraz will be picked
 
For me it has to be:
Shadab out ——> Usman in
Danish out ——> Shafique in
Asif out ———> Haider in
Hasnain out ——> Hasan in

Am not sure if they would want to field two greenhorns at the same time. It looks like Shafique is with the team for experience only, I would call it absolute madness to play him after just 1 List A. Maybe they seen Jazbaa/Junoon in him to succeed with no experience!
 
Misbah speaking in a PCB video today


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CENTURION: Head coach Misbah-ul-Haq is confident that his bowlers will make comeback in the ODI series decider against South Africa on April 7.

Speaking in a video released by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), Misbah said their bowlers were a bit rusty in the second ODI but they still controlled on the pitched like South Africa.

“Such bouncy pitches are not easy to bowl on but our bowlers tried to control. I am confident that they will make comeback in the third game,” he said.

Misbah said the team’s environment is good and players are looking forward to winning the series. “Our team is combined of young and experienced players. Players are pumped up and looking forward to winning the series,” he highlighted.

While concluding the statement, Misbah said that they will make changes if they feel any need. “We need a middle-order batsman to make our combination strong. We are looking at Shadab’s replacement too. We will make changes if we feel the need,” he mentioned.

ARY
 
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Need to get Haider Ali, Hassan and Safraz in if they want to win the series.

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Rizwan
Sarfraz
Haider
Faheem
Hassan
Qadir
Shaheen
Rauf

Should bat first and win by 40 runs easily.
 
Bring qadir or nawaz in for shadab.

Get hasan Ali back in side.

Also danish and asif need to be dropped.
 
My XI for the series decider:

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Imam-ul-Haq
3. Babar Azam(c)
4. Muhammad Rizwan(wk)
5. Danish Aziz
6. Haider Ali
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Hassan Ali
9. Muhammad Hussnain
10. Shaheen Shah Afridi
11. Usman Qadir

Team Management should give Danish another chance it would be extremely unfair to drop him after 2 games vs a very strong bowling unit in their home.

As per reports, Haider wasn't playing because of toothache :facepalm so he will be back.

No need to give Asif Ali another chance, he is only good for PSL.
 
Rizwan shouldn't be batting at number 4. He is a number 5 or 6 at best.

What are you talking about? Rizwan is best suited for number 4 because at number 4 he can come in to get quick singles & get set & after 20-25 deliveries he can start playing big shots.
 
Yes I know he scored runs in the T20s but in the longer format, I just feel you need a more accomplished batsman at 4.

Also, Shadab should be nowhere near this team. His bowling has regressed alarmingly and his batting is pathetic at best
 
Yeah...put Rizwan at no.5 and then who do you put at no. 4?
We're short on 2 middle order batters, no matter where you play em?
 
My XI for the series decider:

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Imam-ul-Haq
3. Babar Azam(c)
4. Muhammad Rizwan(wk)
5. Danish Aziz
6. Haider Ali
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Hassan Ali
9. Muhammad Hussnain
10. Shaheen Shah Afridi
11. Usman Qadir

Team Management should give Danish another chance it would be extremely unfair to drop him after 2 games vs a very strong bowling unit in their home.

As per reports, Haider wasn't playing because of toothache :facepalm so he will be back.

No need to give Asif Ali another chance, he is only good for PSL.

Agreed, this is the team I'd likely go for. If I recall correctly, Qadir can bat a bit? He'll probably be before Afridi.
 
Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Abdullah Shafique
Rizwan
Haider Ali
Nawaz
Faheem
Hassan Ali
Afridi
Haris suhail
 
Pictures (courtesy of the PCB) of the Pakistan squad training ahead of the final ODI against South Africa

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Middle overs bowling was pretty ineffective in both the matches for Pak and to be honest in the modern day cricket that is the issue with most teams.

SA is generally a pretty difficult place for spinner and Shadab didnt look much threatening. Next match is in Centurion and even Imran Tahir averaged 45 there, so Pak will have to make a call that whether they want to go with the attacking option in Usman Qadir as it can go either way or more of a tight line and length option in Nawaz.

I will give Danish the third match as well while Haider surely needs to replace Asif Ali (Have had ample opportunities in his career).

Imam
Fakhar
Babar (C)
Rizwan (WK)
Haider
Danish
Faheem
Nawaz/ Qadir
Hassan Ali
Shaheen
Haris Rauf

That'd be my lineup too. Hasnain has bowled fairly well upfront but loses the plot at the death. Perhaps worth giving him another go but wouldn't complain if they decide to inject some experience with Hasan, although the skiddy Hasan is more suited for low bounce pitches and was poor on his last tour of SAF.

Although I don't rate Nawaz, think a finger spinner will offer more control than a wrist spinner in Qadir on these non-turning pitches.
 
Abdullah Shafique needs to go play a full season of domestic cricket before playing any more international matches.

Not sure why some are naming him in their XIs given how poor he looked against the short ball in NZL, how's he gonna fare on a bouncier pitch at Centurion ?
 
Usman Qadir is so trash, I don't know why I am seeing his name come up on all these proposed XIs.
 
I read on here that it's gonna rain... Should I bother waking up early for the game if it's just a washout?
 
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