South India

[Electron]

You are ignorant

How safe are Madurai streets after 9 pm?

Every second month, the same educated Keralites jam highways and destroy vehicles just because of some political protest. Tamils hate Keralites, Kerala people hate Tamils and they keep smashing each other's vehicles all year.

I have never seen something like this up here in North.

 

[Electron]

the red one looks like just a banana gone bad lol

Have you seen these before in Pakistan?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Tamil Nadu, the ultimate freebie state in India.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...the-ultimate-freebie-state/article7046314.ece

Too much personality cult there. People commit suicides when their favourite leader gets arrested. And garland huge cut outs of their movie stars and bathe it in milk.

 

[Slog]

Have you seen these before in Pakistan?

nope

 

[Slog]

How safe are Madurai streets after 9 pm?

Every second month, the same educated Keralites jam highways and destroy vehicles just because of some political protest. Tamils hate Keralites, Kerala people hate Tamils and they keep smashing each other's vehicles all year.

I have never seen something like this up here in North.

but you dont hear abt rape cases or cases of female child infanticide as much as north inda

 

[CricketCartoons]

what is this theory that north Indians are Aryans and south Indians are dravidians are that north indiians pushed the original Dravidian inhabitants south due to their ivasions.

just an old crackpot theory?

also where did Hinduism originate. is there any credible version of what part of india it was

The people who settled in the north were not aryans. they only spoke indo-aryan. Indo-aryan is a language label, not a racial term. but this misconception persists.

 

[CricketCartoons]

but you dont hear abt rape cases or cases of female child infanticide as much as north inda

Only Kerala has a good male/female ratio. Rest are all dicey and suggest female infanticide happens. But the worst are haryana, punjab, UP and Delhi.

 

[Ambi]

How safe are Madurai streets after 9 pm?

Every second month, the same educated Keralites jam highways and destroy vehicles just because of some political protest. Tamils hate Keralites, Kerala people hate Tamils and they keep smashing each other's vehicles all year.

I have never seen something like this up here in North.

How many people are getting killed/raped in Madurai every year ? Again how many malyalis/tamils kill each other ? In a democratic country people has got the right to protest. If those protests turns violent we have a system in place to control those and cases are registered against violent protesters.

 

[Electron]

but you dont hear abt rape cases or cases of female child infanticide as much as north inda

We don't hear about them in a lot of neighboring countries too, but how accurate is that depiction? Pakistan for example has 50% more rape rates compared to India, yet we hear nothing.

My point was about a false idea people have about South India. Higher literacy rates don't mean lack of jahalat.

I'll tell you my experience. On my way to a hill station in Kerala, protesters had wrecked a tourist car just 100 meters away from police station. Next they stopped us, but my driver pleaded me to keep quite because if I opened my mouth in front of protesters, his car too would have met the same fate and police would pretend like they saw nothing.

I have never ever experienced police being scared of political parties anywhere in India. It wasn't once, but in all my 3 visits, I have had similar experiences. South scares me because I don't trust their police.

 

[CricketCartoons]

My point was about a false idea people have about South India. Higher literacy rates don't mean lack of jahalat.

I agree with this. I LOLed at the rational minds comment. But don't want to expose this myth. Let this thread be for good things.

 

[mallu]

My only gripe with North India is the Babri masjid demolition which put hate/suspicion in the minds of Muslims in Kerala. During my childhood days nobody cared about other's religion and people just got along very well.

 

[Electron]

How many people are getting killed/raped in Madurai every year ? Again how many malyalis/tamils kill each other ? In a democratic country people has got the right to protest. If those protests turns violent we have a system in place to control those and cases are registered against violent protesters.

I am not talking about rapes or murders. I am sure South has a lot of such crime, but that's not the point.

There is nothing peaceful about these states, and that's all I said.

As for the system, I am sorry but I have seen it in front of my eyes. There were cars being demolished in front of your policemen, and they did nothing. Didn't call more force, or anything. They just pretended like it wasn't happening. I wish I could have video recorded that, but I was too scared for my life.

 

[Electron]

I agree with this. I LOLed at the rational minds comment. But don't want to expose this myth. Let this thread be for good things.

Yeah, agreed. Thread needs to get back to it's positive vibe.

 

[mallu]

As for the system, I am sorry but I have seen it in front of my eyes. There were cars being demolished in front of your policemen, and they did nothing. Didn't call more force, or anything. They just pretended like it wasn't happening. I wish I could have video recorded that, but I was too scared for my life.

Hmm.. could have been on a hartal day. But no political party goons will cause any harm to the tourists.

 

[Ambi]

I am not talking about rapes or murders. I am sure South has a lot of such crime, but that's not the point.

There is nothing peaceful about these states, and that's all I said.

As for the system, I am sorry but I have seen it in front of my eyes. There were cars being demolished in front of your policemen, and they did nothing. Didn't call more force, or anything. They just pretended like it wasn't happening. I wish I could have video recorded that, but I was too scared for my life.

So two claims disappeared in to thin air last one has not enough evidence. I won't say we have no issues here.

 

[Lords]

South India is a general word used by North Indians.

In reality south India is divided in four major parts while being very different from each other in all respects that op had mentioned. Different language, different culture, food, clothing, history.

People generally call them madrasi but they are either from Kerala, Tamil, Andhra or Karnatak. Now there is a new stater also called Telengana.

 

[Electron]

So two claims disappeared in to thin air last one has not enough evidence. I won't say we have no issues here.

Don't lie. I didn't claim that (Because I have no knowledge of that).

The post I quoted was the one which claimed Kerala and Tamil Nadu have more rational people and have more peaceful people. That was a lie.

As CricketCartoons above said, the thread should be about good things, which I agreed to. But since I don't like end up looking like a fool, so I'll burst the "rational people" and "peaceful place" bubble with something more concrete than my possibly fabricated experience.

Crime rate statistics in terms of offences coming under the ambit of the Indian Penal Code during 2012 have put Kerala on top with 455.8 cases for every 1,00,000 persons. National Crime Records Bureau figures put Madhya Pradesh, with a rate of 298.8, second, and Tamil Nadu, with a rate of 294.8, third.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/crime-rate-highest-in-kerala/article4822947.ece

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I really don't want to talk negative, but if you keep quoting me trying to make me look like a fool, then I'll have to reply.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Madrasi is a historical term. Till 1956 there was no Kerala, Karnataka etc. It was all Madras State, Mysore State and Travancore State. That is why the term Madrasi was so much in vogue. It is like the term Hindustan, which was meant to refer to north India.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I really don't want to talk negative, but if you keep quoting me trying to make me look like a fool, then I'll have to reply.

Even I am trying hard to resist the urge to shatter this myth of "rational minds".

 

[Ambi]

Don't lie. I didn't claim that (Because I have no knowledge of that).

The post I quoted was the one which claimed Kerala and Tamil Nadu have more rational people and have more peaceful people. That was a lie.

As CricketCartoons above said, the thread should be about good things, which I agreed to. But since I don't like end up looking like a fool, so I'll burst the "rational people" and "peaceful place" bubble with something more concrete than my possibly fabricated experience.



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I really don't want to talk negative, but if you keep quoting me trying to make me look like a fool, then I'll have to reply.

Who said we don't have any problems here. I said this before we have a better system in place . People here trust police and are not afraid of reporting cases. Your were claiming that Madurai is very unsafe and malayalis/tamils are daily fighting with each other, Those claims were really stupid.

 

[Laal]

Doesn't Kerala outperforms the rest of India on most of the development indicators. If I remember correctly, Amartya Sen called it the 'Kerala experience' - high social expenditures resulting in growth.

 

[Ambi]

The role of migrants workers from UP/Bihar/Bengal/Orissa in crimes are very high

 

[mallu]

Kerala has high literacy, but literacy does not make people nice.

Crime rate statistics in terms of offences coming under the ambit of the Indian Penal Code during 2012 have put Kerala on top with 455.8 cases for every 1,00,000 persons. National Crime Records Bureau figures put Madhya Pradesh, with a rate of 298.8, second, and Tamil Nadu, with a rate of 294.8, third.

Actually you cannot take crimes 'recorded' as a proof of how peaceful a region is. In Kerala a lot of people (women especially) go to police stations and file cases.

 

[CricketCartoons]

That is true. High reporting of crimes does not mean rise in crimes, and low crime reporting does not mean less crimes. Especially in conservative countries where victims are encouraged/forced to keep silent.

 

[Laal]

Kerala has high literacy, but literacy does not make people nice.



Actually you cannot take crimes 'recorded' as a proof of how peaceful a region is. In Kerala a lot of people (women especially) go to police stations and file cases.

Very good point.

 

[Slog]

Doesn't Kerala outperforms the rest of India on most of the development indicators. If I remember correctly, Amartya Sen called it the 'Kerala experience' - high social expenditures resulting in growth.

same. one of the few keralites i know once said that if it was just looked in isolaton, kerala is a first world state.

didnt really bother to check the claim or even remember tlll right now

 

[Slog]

That is true. High reporting of crimes does not mean rise in crimes, and low crime reporting does not mean less crimes. Especially in conservative countries where victims are encouraged/forced to keep silent.

but dont you agree that a society where people are more likely to and willing to report such crimes and not be tied down by fear or honor is already a more sophisticated society than the one where this doesnt happen?

 

[Electron]

Who said we don't have any problems here. I said this before we have a better system in place . People here trust police and are not afraid of reporting cases. Your were claiming that Madurai is very unsafe and malayalis/tamils are daily fighting with each other, Those claims were really stupid.

Ok, let me clear things here.

The only reason I quoted Ignited was because he assumed Kerala and Tamil Nadu people to be more "rational" and "peaceful" than North Indians. I hear this so many times, but my experience or crime rates there suggest nothing like that. Infact, these two states have been regular top 3 when it comes to crime in India.

Why can't we just get rid of the superiority complex? "South India is more cultured", "we are more rational", "we are the peaceful ones".... it gets annoying.

 

[Laal]

same. one of the few keralites i know once said that if it was just looked in isolaton, kerala is a first world state.

didnt really bother to check the claim or even remember tlll right now

Yep. If you cover any of the Heterodox economists, they'd always point towards the example of Kerala. The claim about development indicators is very much a fact. What led to it is often debated.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Why can't we just get rid of the superiority complex? "South India is more cultured", "we are more rational", "we are the peaceful ones".... it gets annoying.

Both north south have their own complexes. And prejudices against the other. I hate northies and southies equally, without any prejudice.

 

[mallu]

Why can't we just get rid of the superiority complex? "South India is more cultured", "we are more rational", "we are the peaceful ones".... it gets annoying.

1. Culture. Agree. South Indian culture is not better than North Indian. Both are a bit different, that's all. I like a lot of values in the north culture too.

2. We are not more rational.

3. Peacuful. I will have to disagree a bit. (Babri Masjid, numerous riots, etc).

 

[Electron]

but dont you agree that a society where people are more likely to and willing to report such crimes and not be tied down by fear or honor is already a more sophisticated society than the one where this doesnt happen?

Assam, Nagaland, Meghalya, Manipur, Tripura, Uttaranchal, Himachal Pradesh etc are North Indian states which are not at all tied down by fear or honor. The society in these states is culturally immune to these problems, yet the crime rates are not 1/10th of Kerala or Tamil Nadu.

I think it will be good if people from certain South Indian states actually realize their problems and come out of their usual superiority complex. Yes, you may be doing well in all development indexes, but that does not mean that stereotyping rest of India as inferior societies.

 

[Electron]

Both north south have their own complexes. And prejudices against the other. I hate northies and southies equally, without any prejudice.

Both are wrong. It wouldn't be wrong if South Indians object to prejudices against them.

 

[Slog]

Assam, Nagaland, Meghalya, Manipur, Tripura, Uttaranchal, Himachal Pradesh etc are North Indian states which are not at all tied down by fear or honor. The society in these states is culturally immune to these problems, yet the crime rates are not 1/10th of Kerala or Tamil Nadu.

I think it will be good if people from certain South Indian states actually realize their problems and come out of their usual superiority complex. Yes, you may be doing well in all development indexes, but that does not mean that stereotyping rest of India as inferior societies.

its ironic to see you say that south indian people may have superiorty complex whereas in my experience both oon the internet and to a lesser extent in real life, north indians seem to look down upon south indians and have stereotypes and whatnot

anyways why do you (and others) think that atleast on a global level north indian culture and food is more predominant, known and identified. for eg here in the states, an indian restaurant will usually be north indan food you can automatically assume. if its south indian restaurant that needs to be mentioned. same with bollywood. why is it more famous worldwide. i was shocked to find out that the movie industry in the south is equally huge. basically why have south indian not been able to popularize their culture and food in the west?

 

[Slog]

Assam, Nagaland, Meghalya, Manipur, Tripura, Uttaranchal, Himachal Pradesh etc are North Indian states which are not at all tied down by fear or honor. The society in these states is culturally immune to these problems, yet the crime rates are not 1/10th of Kerala or Tamil Nadu.

I think it will be good if people from certain South Indian states actually realize their problems and come out of their usual superiority complex. Yes, you may be doing well in all development indexes, but that does not mean that stereotyping rest of India as inferior societies.

by north india, i mean the hindi belt really. i dont know much abt the states you mentioned and they dont really figure into the conversation for most non indians atleast

 

[mallu]

Assam, Nagaland, Meghalya, Manipur, Tripura, Uttaranchal, Himachal Pradesh etc are North Indian states which are not at all tied down by fear or honor. The society in these states is culturally immune to these problems, yet the crime rates are not 1/10th of Kerala or Tamil Nadu.

Assam, Nagaland, Meghalaya, Manipur and Tripura are not in 'North India'.

 

[Slog]

Assam, Nagaland, Meghalaya, Manipur and Tripura are not in 'North India'.

yes tbh apart from assam ive not even heard the other names.

Lets assume for the purpose of this thread:

North India : hindi speaking belt and Punjab
South india: Tamil nadu, kerala,karnataka, deccan

 

[Slog]

btw another random question

what role has islam played if any. i know the mughals never got to the South. But there was the nizam of hyderabad. Any other Muslim headed princely states or Muslim kingdoms in the history of south india?

 

[CricketCartoons]

btw another random question

what role has islam played if any. i know the mughals never got to the South. But there was the nizam of hyderabad. Any other Muslim headed princely states or Muslim kingdoms in the history of south india?

Whenever I look at the maps of various kingdoms, kerala and part of tamil nadu has always been independent. Tipu Sultan's Mysore state (karnakata) is the southern most muslim kingdom I know of.

 

[Electron]

Assam, Nagaland, Meghalaya, Manipur and Tripura are not in 'North India'.

Ok, so Gujrat riots would be East India?

 

[mallu]

India's first mosque is in Kerala.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheraman_Juma_Masjid

We had trade relations with the Arabs before the british took over the trade.
One of our local ruler went to mecca, got converted (peacefully of course) and that is the start.

In Kerala, we had one muslim dynasty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arakkal_kingdom

 

[Slog]

Whenever I look at the maps of various kingdoms, kerala and part of tamil nadu has always been independent. Tipu Sultan's Mysore state (karnakata) is the southern most muslim kingdom I know of.

we learned abt tipu sultan of mysore in school and how he was betrayed

oh so mysore is karnataka. i thought it was somewhere in deccan. man my indian geography sucks beyond delhi, UP, punjab etc!

 

[Electron]

** West

 

[Electron]

by north india, i mean the hindi belt really. i dont know much abt the states you mentioned and they dont really figure into the conversation for most non indians atleast

Yeah, ok, I get your point.

In that case, yes, North is more prone to riots and religious tensions.

 

[Slog]

India's first mosque is in Kerala.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheraman_Juma_Masjid

We had trade relations with the Arabs before the british took over the trade.
One of our local ruler went to mecca, got converted (peacefully of course) and that is the start.

In Kerala, we had one muslim dynasty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arakkal_kingdom

does TN have significant muslim population comparable to kerala or other states?

so how did islam come to these places.

i know north had tons of invasions whch played a role. (doesnt mean forceful conversion but the fact that Islam mhad the patronage of the invading forces and subsequent rulers plays a part). but as CC said theres not much of hstory of muslm kngdoms and i guess invasions, so how did 3-4 million ppl in TN and 25% of kerala's population become muslim?

 

[Slog]

Ok, so Gujrat riots would be East India?

doesnt Gujrat fall in hindi speaking belt?

 

[Electron]

doesnt Gujrat fall in hindi speaking belt?

Ok, I got it. North Indians = Hindi speaking belt.

I was assuming that South Indians see rest of India as North.

 

[mallu]

Ok, so Gujrat riots would be East India?

I mean the Hindi speaking region.

The north east states you have mentioned have a totally different culture. Nagaland has a christian majority if I am not mistaken.
Most of them dont even look Indian.

 

[eradicator]

doesnt Gujrat fall in hindi speaking belt?

Nope, people in Gujarat speak Gujarati. Same for Maharashtra, where people speak Marathi. both these states are neither North Indian nor South Indian.

 

[mallu]

i know north had tons of invasions whch played a role. (doesnt mean forceful conversion but the fact that Islam mhad the patronage of the invading forces and subsequent rulers plays a part). but as CC said theres not much of hstory of muslm kngdoms and i guess invasions, so how did 3-4 million ppl in TN and 25% of kerala's population become muslim?

Arab marriages, tipu sultan's conversions, conversion from low castes, etc.

 

[Slog]

Ok, I got it. North Indians = Hindi speaking belt.

I was assuming that South Indians see rest of India as North.

i dont know what south indans view as north

for me north india is punjab and hindi speaking belt.

and only recently got to know abt and got interested in south india. so for south it is TN, kerala, karnataka, deccan.

rest, without any offence to anyone, i dont really know or care about for the purpose this thread and the comparisons we are discussing

 

[eradicator]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_India

 

[Slog]

These states are hindi speaking belt according to wiki:


Bihar
Uttar Pradesh
Madhya Pradesh
Haryana
Rajasthan
Himachal Pradesh
Uttarakhand
Chhattisgarh
Jharkhand
Delhi

so these are North Inda

 

[Slog]

add Punjab to the list and maybe gujrat

 

[samplepiece]

Whenever I look at the maps of various kingdoms, kerala and part of tamil nadu has always been independent. Tipu Sultan's Mysore state (karnakata) is the southern most muslim kingdom I know of.

I guess Arcot (around Vellore in TN) was also a Muslim princely state.

Not sure what you mean by independent. Most of Kerala and TN was under the Vijayanagar empire (the ruins of its capital lay near Hampi in Karnataka) indirectly.

On topic, the 4 states of South India differ considerably. And within Karnataka itself, the coastal region (Konkani speaking) differs greatly from the Deccan (Kannada and Telugu in some pockets) and the hills of Western Ghats (Coorgi speaking).

 

[kaayal]

One thing that really surprised me in South India was that it is hard to find regular bananas there. They have two more common varieties.

Here are the midget ones :

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View attachment 55834

Ans the red ones :

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The red one is the palenkodan pazham and the yellow ones are in my house. Very common here.

 

[CricketCartoons]

we learned abt tipu sultan of mysore in school and how he was betrayed

oh so mysore is karnataka. i thought it was somewhere in deccan. man my indian geography sucks beyond delhi, UP, punjab etc!

Is tipu sultan praised in pakistani textbooks? he is praised in indian textbooks too. But he was an anti hindu bigot and destroyed temples and killed hindus in malabar.

 

[CricketCartoons]

The red one is the palenkodan pazham and the yellow ones are in my house. Very common here.

It is not pazham. It is Parram. Don't know why malayalis have to write R as ZH

 

[samplepiece]

It is not pazham. It is Parram. Don't know why malayalis have to write R as ZH

Even in TN. The DMK patriarch's daughter' name is spelled as Kanimozhi.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Even in TN. The DMK patriarch's daughter' name is spelled as Kanimozhi.

Whenever I read her name, I start humming the lines.. Akkakko Adi Kinnikozhi.. Appappo Enna Pinnikodi..

 

[samplepiece]

Whenever I read her name, I start humming the lines.. Akkakko Adi Kinnikozhi.. Appappo Enna Pinnikodi..

What do these lines mean?

 

[Slog]

Is tipu sultan praised in pakistani textbooks? he is praised in indian textbooks too. But he was an anti hindu bigot and destroyed temples and killed hindus in malabar.

not really praised as such. just a mention of how he was betrayed by his own men and how the british hold strengthened after his fall

 

[Slog]

very little mention of what kind of ruler he was or how his kingdom was. i guess cuz he never ruled over any part of modern Pakistan

the mughals are taught in detail.

 

[Electron]

The red one is the palenkodan pazham and the yellow ones are in my house. Very common here.

Yeah, I remember the name now. They said it was healthier than regular bananas and hence twice as expensive.

But I loved dwarf one the best.. it tastes too good. What is it called?

 

[Electron]

I mean the Hindi speaking region.

The north east states you have mentioned have a totally different culture. Nagaland has a christian majority if I am not mistaken.
Most of them dont even look Indian.

Actually, the whole of India is not as different, and that is the truth. A riot in 1992 or 2002 doesn't define North Indians.


I think one defining factor that really that really makes a difference to how South and North Indians come across is politics. All the crime and corruption is similar, but politics in North leads to greater sins in the form of religious riots.

 

[mallu]

But I loved dwarf one the best.. it tastes too good. What is it called?

Yellow one - Rasakadali ( butter plantain )
Red one - chenkadali/Kappa

There are more than ten types, each with different taste/smell/size/color (green, yellow, red, etc.)

 

[mallu]

I think one defining factor that really that really makes a difference to how South and North Indians come across is politics. All the crime and corruption is similar, but politics in North leads to greater sins in the form of religious riots.

Agreed.

I think it is the huge population in UP/Bihar that makes the whole north look bad.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Agreed.

I think it is the huge population in UP/Bihar that makes the whole north look bad.

Only 4 countries (excluding india) have more population than UP. UP should be a country on its own. But it remained a province, while being the major factor in birth of another country.

 

[Electron]

Yellow one - Rasakadali ( butter plantain )
Red one - chenkadali/Kappa

There are more than ten types, each with different taste/smell/size/color (green, yellow, red, etc.)

I wonder why they never make it to the markets here in Delhi(atleast, I am yet to see them).

I am sure these would sell like crazy, real good stuff..look exotic as hell.

 

[mallu]

I wonder why they never make it to the markets here in Delhi(atleast, I am yet to see them).

 

[mallu]

oops.

I wonder why they never make it to the markets here in Delhi(atleast, I am yet to see them).

We eat all of it ourselves High population density and not much agricultural land left for a big produce.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Back to the topic at hand. I think South India has some of the best breakfast foods in the world.

View attachment 55827

Without a doubt.

2 of my favourites breakfast types:

1. Aloo Paratha (something that almost no one makes well in south India )
2. South Indian breakfast (Pongal, Puri, Vada, Dosa, Idli) - Far superior to anything else

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

[MENTION=134240]Electron[/MENTION] - Here's is an explanation about the rational argument.

1. First of all, let me say that there is no superiority stuff going on.
2. Second of all, it doesn't mean others aren't rational.

Now here's the thing:

A community is judged NOT by its lowest common denominator but by the experience most people have interacting with people of that community. This is assuming the lowest common denominator isn't so bad that it overpowers and clouds everyone's judgement.

South Indians are called more rational because the educated masses (whose numbers in absolute tersm are very high and you can meet these people in South India, North India, foreign countries, etc) are pretty good.

This doesn't mean other communities are bad or anything. It just means that if you meat 20 South Indian fellas and 20 felllas from other community, 99 out of 100 times, you would notice South Indian fellas to be more rational and less filled with hate.

Again, don't take it badly. Since I am a South Indian, this may look like a biased statement but I can assure you there is no superiority complex going on and my statement is based on NOT my views but views of others.

I have a Punjabi female friend living in North India and she says the same based on South Indians living there. I have seen people outside India saying the same. I have seen vast majority of Pakistanis here say the same. MMHS a Bangladesh origin guy says the same.

Its just an overwhelming opinion.

Take cricket for example (not that its some main kind of thing but something that gives a rough rough idea):

The most sporting crowd you would see is the Chennai crowd and one of the worst crowd you would see is Mumbai crowd (they even boeed SRT and I think Kohli once) and Kolkata crowd.

Of course, its possible some of the Eastern Indian states are more rational and stuff but sadly they don't get recognition.

With all being said,

1. Yes politics is a big deal here (in TN - dunno about other states). Even a rickshaw driver can hold incredible insightful conversations (not all...but some but everyone is strongly opinionated).
2. There is too much hero worship. Falling on the feet of Amma, etc.
3. Kerala does have a high crime rate but the educated people from there are class
4. Andhra Pradesh has as many crazy loons as TN or other South Indian state

All that is there.

But as I said, rightly or wrongly, we don't judge a community by its lowest common denominator but by our experience of interacting with them. Sometimes the lowest common denominator can screw it up for rest (like how Taliban creates perception problems reg Muslims all over the world, LTTE apologists even today make us look bad)...but in general, our experiences with a community, experiences of others around us shapes our view.

 

[CricketCartoons]

[MENTION=134240]
South Indians are called more rational because the educated masses (whose numbers in absolute tersm are very high and you can meet these people in South India, North India, foreign countries, etc) are pretty good.

This doesn't mean other communities are bad or anything. It just means that if you meat 20 South Indian fellas and 20 felllas from other community, 99 out of 100 times, you would notice South Indian fellas to be more rational and less filled with hate.

This is speculation on your part. Anecdotal experience at best. Not backed by serious study.
And literate doesnt make one rational. One can give oneself all the tributes one wants, but there is no evidence to back it up.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The thing about South Indian families (educated people from Tamil Nadu are notorious for this) which I dislike:

This would give you a good idea:

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

This is speculation on your part. Anecdotal experience at best. Not backed by serious study.
And literate doesnt make one rational. One can give oneself all the tributes one wants, but there is no evidence to back it up.

I didn't bring one statement about literacy rate.

Yes, I agree its my view but its also the view of almost everyone I have met. Its so overwhelming that its hard to ignore it.

You can call me biased but I would have said the same if I wasn't a South Indian.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I didn't bring one statement about literacy rate.

Yes, I agree its my view but its also the view of almost everyone I have met. Its so overwhelming that its hard to ignore it.

You can call me biased but I would have said the same if I wasn't a South Indian.

I am not saying you are biased or unbiased. Simply that this anecdotal experience doesn't count.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Of course, that example was a bit of exaggeration.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I am not saying you are biased or unbiased. Simply that this anecdotal experience doesn't count.

Yeah...if you are referring to the 99 times out of 100, it doesn't count cos in a flow I exaggerated it a bit too much.

 

[CricketCartoons]

South Indians are rational minded. What is rational minded? Belief in religion? Casteism? Personality cult? This statement is flawed at so many levels.