"Spin of the coin cannot decide who gets a very significant advantage"- Sanjay Manjrekar

[Major]

Sanjay Manjrekar has pointed out that the toss has played an important role in deciding the results of the Asia Cup 2022 matches.

The final of the Asia Cup 2022 will take place between Pakistan and Sri Lanka on Sunday in Dubai, and ahead of the same, both of them will face each other in the last Super 4 game of the tournament in Dubai.

Both Pakistan and Sri Lanka have won both of their games in the Super 4, and they are certainly the deserving teams to play the final of the tournament. However, this fact cannot be ignored that both of them have been lucky with the toss as well. Both teams won their toss in both games and won the games by chasing.


Sanjay Manjrekar calls to negate the importance of toss
Former Indian cricketer and commentator Sanjay Manjrekar has criticized the unfair importance of tosses in the Asia Cup 2022. He pointed out that the teams who were unlucky with the toss missed the finals of the tournament. India lost all three tosses in the Super 4, whereas Afghanistan lost two of them. Both of them missed a place in the finals.

Manjrekar pointed out that a spin of a coin should not decide the results of the games and insisted that T20 cricket needs to explore a fairer method to decide the winner of the game.

“Fact that cannot be ignored in this Asia cup – Teams that lost most tosses in super 4s are not in the finals. India lost all 3. Afghanistan 2. Hence spin of the coin cannot decide who gets a very significant advantage. T20 Cricket needs to explore a fairer method,” Sanjay Manjrekar tweeted.


It has been seen that the chasing teams have done relatively well in UAE, be it Dubai or Sharjah. The tracks have become really easier for batting in the 2nd innings, and it has to be said that the tosses have played a big part in the Asia Cup 2022 results this season.

https://thesportsrush.com/cricket-n...0-matches-after-recent-asia-cup-2022-results/

 

[daytrader]

Can't just blame the toss. India beat Afghanistan even though they lost the toss. And Afghanistan lost to Pakistan even though they won the toss.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

What is the alternative to the coin toss?

 

[SpiritOf1903]

What is the alternative to the coin toss?

Bowl off

 

[SamNJ]

Give 2 overs extra to team batting first in UAE.

 

[Rajdeep]

Sanju Manju is right.

India scored 192, 181, 173 and 212 batting first...yet they are out of the tournament.

Pakstan just batted twice and scored 147 and 121 respectively. But they are in finals.

This just goes to show toss has been a massive factor in UAE and the best side need not necessarily is in the finals.

 

[Marooned]

Only Indians crying about it.

Give me a 175 score and we will defend it no problem.

 

[Ozeirk]

Sanju Manju is right.

India scored 192, 181, 173 and 212 batting first...yet they are out of the tournament.

Pakstan just batted twice and scored 147 and 121 respectively. But they are in finals.

This just goes to show toss has been a massive factor in UAE and the best side need not necessarily is in the finals.

I didn't know the game was only played by batters. Bowlers are their for moral support.

 

[Major]

What is the alternative to the coin toss?

visiting team gets to decide what they want to do, while home team have to accept the decision.

In icc tournaments, A VS B, B decides

 

[Gayle_Force]

There is at most a slight advantage from toss in the Asia Cup. By no means is it win toss win match scenario like what we saw in last World T20. Look at the last two T20s that Pak played against Afghanistan and SriLanka can you tell me if toss played a factor in these two games even though the side chasing won?

 

[Kianig89]

With India exited Manjtekar didnot had any other point to ride home henceforth the toss factor, somebody tell him toss is there from ages even when he was in nappies spin of the coin decided who will bat first

 

[Fenrir]

Pakistan lost due to poor batting not because of toss.The shot selection was terrible by all batsmen.Only Nawaz played a proper innings.

 

[adzzy786]

Bowl off

How did I misread that? Lol



Also i don’t think the factor this tournament has been the toss. Someone being sore

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Some fans are using this as an excuse to cover up India's poor performance in this Asia Cup.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Only Indians crying about it.

Give me a 175 score and we will defend it no problem.

Forget about about defending. Didn't Pakistan concede 181 bowling first?

 

[Officer Barbrady]

Lame excuse based on a small example size. It’s a real problem when dew becomes an issue later in the game and gives the team batting second a distinct advantage. However I don’t believe dew has been a factor in these games

 

[Mamoon]

Only Indians crying about it.

Give me a 175 score and we will defend it no problem.

Pakistan couldn’t defend 176 in the WT20 Semifinal in Dubai. Australia cantered home with an over to spare.

Manjrekar is right - toss plays an excessively influential role in Dubai/UAE, teams batting first have a huge disadvantage.

Pakistan have played poor cricket in this tournament and does not deserve to be the final. Like the World T20, Babar’s luck at the toss is the only reason why Pakistan have qualified for the knockout stage.

 

[Mamoon]

Lame excuse based on a small example size. It’s a real problem when dew becomes an issue later in the game and gives the team batting second a distinct advantage. However I don’t believe dew has been a factor in these games

It is not a small sample size though.

Toss was a massive factor in the World T20 2021 as well. Pretty all matches were won by teams chasing.

Dubai/UAE seems to be an impossible place to defend these ways.

 

[Farabi]

It is not a small sample size though.

Toss was a massive factor in the World T20 2021 as well. Pretty all matches were won by teams chasing.

Dubai/UAE seems to be an impossible place to defend these ways.

Aligned. But, the nature of the wins was very marginal. If you look at score line, it feels biased. But if you actually watched some of these games, they were very very close and could have gone either way. For example, Naseem hit the two sixes on 2 back2back full tosses, which was down to poor execution of the bowler and some luck for the batsmen, but it had nothing to do with the pitch/toss. Afghanistan should have won that game 99 out of 100 times but they didn’t and it’s lame to blame anyone but themselves.
Ditto Pak/India game which was in India’s favor until a blinder from Nawaz, and even then Pak relied on some luck and poor fielding, wides to get through.
I wonder how much of this is just mental where teams defending give up sooner.

The sample size is big enough to take this seriously but I reckon champion team will still win regardless of the toss.

 

[jnaveen1980]

This was brought up during world T20 as well. Australia looked totally out of depth. Then series of toss wins. Bam. They ended up winning the world T20. I most definitely don't think they were the best T20 team.

 

[skhanmac]

Pakistan couldn’t defend 176 in the WT20 Semifinal in Dubai. Australia cantered home with an over to spare.

Manjrekar is right - toss plays an excessively influential role in Dubai/UAE, teams batting first have a huge disadvantage.

Pakistan have played poor cricket in this tournament and does not deserve to be the final. Like the World T20, Babar’s luck at the toss is the only reason why Pakistan have qualified for the knockout stage.

So India deserve to be in the finals? They barely won against Pak in the first game, gave away 152 runs to HK, lost to Sri, lost to Pak and won 1 game comprehensively against a tired/heartbroken Afghanistan team.

What a lame excuse bro - but that's what we expect from you anyway.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pakistan couldn’t defend 176 in the WT20 Semifinal in Dubai. Australia cantered home with an over to spare.

Manjrekar is right - toss plays an excessively influential role in Dubai/UAE, teams batting first have a huge disadvantage.

Pakistan have played poor cricket in this tournament and does not deserve to be the final. Like the World T20, Babar’s luck at the toss is the only reason why Pakistan have qualified for the knockout stage.

Another factor is team batting first consciously try to play for bigger total knowing fully well chasing gets easier and in the process lose their way. Setting target has become a challenge because of that.

 

[Love Pakistan]

Why don’t teams bat the opposition out of the match? If you know batting first means you’ll lose, why not score 200+?

 

[ExpressPacer]

They have all been close games. The toss has only given a slight advantage but not enough of an advantage to determine the outcome of the game.

The toss plays a crucial role everywhere and has been so for as long as the game has been played. Why else do you think teams want to win the toss?

 

[docteurmanish]

Aligned. But, the nature of the wins was very marginal. If you look at score line, it feels biased. But if you actually watched some of these games, they were very very close and could have gone either way. For example, Naseem hit the two sixes on 2 back2back full tosses, which was down to poor execution of the bowler and some luck for the batsmen, but it had nothing to do with the pitch/toss. Afghanistan should have won that game 99 out of 100 times but they didn’t and it’s lame to blame anyone but themselves.
Ditto Pak/India game which was in India’s favor until a blinder from Nawaz, and even then Pak relied on some luck and poor fielding, wides to get through.
I wonder how much of this is just mental where teams defending give up sooner.

The sample size is big enough to take this seriously but I reckon champion team will still win regardless of the toss.

games that were close

india-sl and india -pak and afghan-pak

note all these games had one factor -india had the best batting power in the tournament and afghanistan have a very good bowling attack

credit has to go to these teams for getting the game so close. its fair to say that this tournament has actually benifitted india the most-they got to bat first and tried and post huge scores. teams batting second and winning might be in for a rude shock in the world cup

 

[NishanKonar]

This is why I keep saying. India should not worry about this Asia Cup. India lost all 3 tosses in the 2nd round. If we won even 2 tosses we wud be in the final

Of course trolls will say this is lame excuse from Indians. But if almost 100% wins at Dubai in both Asia Cup & World T20 is by the team batting 2nd - can u really argue the toss is not a factor ?

U can say India has poor bowling attack. But then Aus , Eng , NZ , Pak , South Africa - all lost batting 1st in Dubai. None of them managed a win. Do all of them have poor bowling ?

 

[NishanKonar]

At the T20 World Cup all teams won in Dubai after batting 2nd

Same in Asia Cup. almost all teams won batting 2nd

In statistics - this is what u call correlation factor of 1. It means when 1 factor almost always correlates to a particular result - that is win toss and u win match. Funny thing is you rarely get a correlation factor of 1 in real life in sports. But in Dubai its actually for real !

 

[Gayle_Force]

At the T20 World Cup all teams won in Dubai after batting 2nd

Same in Asia Cup. almost all teams won batting 2nd

In statistics - this is what u call correlation factor of 1. It means when 1 factor almost always correlates to a particular result - that is win toss and u win match. Funny thing is you rarely get a correlation factor of 1 in real life in sports. But in Dubai its actually for real !

Difference is there was actually dew factor in T20 WC last year but no dew factor in Asia Cup. You can point out the stats but we have all seen the matches most of the matches, where score was chased, went down to the wire and could have gone either way. Toss does not automatically mean win in Asia Cup.

 

[Marooned]

Forget about about defending. Didn't Pakistan concede 181 bowling first?

On a very good batting pitch. It was a good effort to restrict India to 181.

 

[Marooned]

Pakistan couldn’t defend 176 in the WT20 Semifinal in Dubai. Australia cantered home with an over to spare.

Manjrekar is right - toss plays an excessively influential role in Dubai/UAE, teams batting first have a huge disadvantage.

Pakistan have played poor cricket in this tournament and does not deserve to be the final. Like the World T20, Babar’s luck at the toss is the only reason why Pakistan have qualified for the knockout stage.

Last wc atleast had the dew factor to account for in theory.

Better not give verdict like a scorecard reading bot, it was a close game vs Australia and Hasan Ali's pathetic over at a crucial time followed by that catch drop shaped up that game.

 

[Marooned]

As expected it's more of Indians still crying about toss, desperately searching for some validation.

It's just sad fan psychology. You would rather put the blame on external factors than come to terms with your own shortcomings.

Afterall, Dubai used to be our home and we have defended middling totals here without breaking a sweat. Witchcraft?

All said and done I say again, give me a 175 total to defend in final and we will defend it. No Hasan Ali to save the opposition this time

 

[ask_analyse_act]

The game against Pakistan was an easy one for India to win

Pakistan chasing 181 were 68-3 in 9 overs. They let it loose for Nawaz and carried on the momentum, even then it was still a lot to chase in the final 3-4 overs

In Asia cup there was no dew factor , India bowled and fielded poorly in the last 4 overs to gift Pakistan the win

Pakistan on the other hand with khushdil, Asif , Shadab and Ifthikar are not Hardik, Dhoni, Pollard, Miller waiting in the ranks to finish games

At one point I thot they are letting khushdil and Asif to hit boundaries and let win the game so that in the long run these 2 mugs with the bat will play for Pakistan next 5 years for their past glory which is a win-win for India in the long run lol.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Last wc atleast had the dew factor to account for in theory.

Better not give verdict like a scorecard reading bot, it was a close game vs Australia and Hasan Ali's pathetic over at a crucial time followed by that catch drop shaped up that game.

Exactly same here with India as well, some poor bowling at the death and followed by catch drops and misfileds cost them the game. .

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Some Indians taking the poms route of crying at little things after losing.

 

[par]

All the posters who feel the toss is insignificant, tell me one thing. What would you think if Babar wins the toss and elects to bat first in the final?

Will you be satisfied considering runs on the board is helpful in big matches?

 

[docteurmanish]

All the posters who feel the toss is insignificant, tell me one thing. What would you think if Babar wins the toss and elects to bat first in the final?

Will you be satisfied considering runs on the board is helpful in big matches?

if babar does that, it will be like azar choosing to bat second in Calcutta in wc semifinal. everybody knew pitch was gonna break up , but fixer azar fixed it for a lifetime of fun and happiness and wealth anyways by decidibg to bat second. if babar does that, i would consider match fixing as alive and rampant.

 

[Smbhayi]

if babar does that, it will be like azar choosing to bat second in Calcutta in wc semifinal. everybody knew pitch was gonna break up , but fixer azar fixed it for a lifetime of fun and happiness and wealth anyways by decidibg to bat second. if babar does that, i would consider match fixing as alive and rampant.

Prove that he fixed that match.. if india lost inaugural wt20 final will you say dhoni fixed that match?

 

[thecrusade911]

May be we should have 2-legged tournaments. One team bats first in one leg and the other in the 2nd one.

 

[docteurmanish]

Prove that he fixed that match.. if india lost inaugural wt20 final will you say dhoni fixed that match?

I don’t need to prove anything bro . Hansie , azar etc were dishonorable cricketers who clearly took decisions which were nonsensical . They were punished by their boards - if they were out of developed countries like usa , criminal penalties and civilian penalties would have been tremendous

If Babar decides to bat first or for that matter the Sri Lankan captain , I don’t see any logical person not supporting my view .

 

[Mamoon]

Last wc atleast had the dew factor to account for in theory.

Better not give verdict like a scorecard reading bot, it was a close game vs Australia and Hasan Ali's pathetic over at a crucial time followed by that catch drop shaped up that game.

I don’t need lectures on what happened in that game. I watched every ball. The drop catch is an excuse, Pakistan was not going to defend the total.

Australia always had the advantage because it is almost impossible to bowl at the death in Dubai, England lost the semifinal to a crap New Zealand team for the same reason.

In Dubai, you have to aim for 190-200 to give your bowlers breathing space at the death, but that’s impossible when you have selfish stats padders like Babar and Rizwan opening the innings who gifted Australia the match with their slow batting.

176/4 in a T20 game screams bad tactics and inability to utilize your wickets. 176/4 should be converted into 196/7 and perhaps then you can defend totals in Dubai.

 

[docteurmanish]

Case for tactical decisions and case for illogical decisions

Don’t remember Dhoni making senseless decisions . In the 90s , it was a different world . Cricketers didn’t get the money they get today - especially the Indians . Times have changed now . Harder to fix in the big stage but still you will see young cricketers like Asif ( he was the best bowler of his generation imo ) and Amir who lost their careers due to money . Countries whose domestic cricket structure is not as well. Structured like india will always be targets for bookies.

Don’t get emotional , it’s a game . Not all men are born equal . Some will not have same morals like others .

 

[Mesozoic]

Chasing is usually preferred in T20s irrespective of the venue and it's usually 60-40 in favor of the chasing team. But in the UAE (esp Dubai) , that ratio jumps up to 80-20 due to the sheer difference in batting at 6:30 PM in the evening and 9 PM at night (usually the crucial death overs).

Only way to negate this is to start the games at 8 but broadcasters wouldn't want to lose out on prime time viewership.

 

[docteurmanish]

Well said .

Gap between teams in t20 is not that wide . Toss advantage giving a 20 run boost is more than enough for any side .

It’s actually similar to matches in which wickets breaks after 20 overs . Side batting second had most disadvantage .

Pitch and dew should not play as much a part in t20 or odi . People loose interest .

India has overnight not deteriorated to the worst team in Asia nor has Sri Lanka become better than india or pak .

 

[AAli98]

Manju Sanju is right.. last years World Cup eng & Pak were the best sides by miles lost the toss in semis but still done well to take games into 19th over, where as chasing teams were getting totals by 12/13th over. UAE should be banned from hosting tournaments!!

 

[Mesozoic]

Manju Sanju is right.. last years World Cup eng & Pak were the best sides by miles lost the toss in semis but still done well to take games into 19th over, where as chasing teams were getting totals by 12/13th over. UAE should be banned from hosting tournaments!!

Australia lost the toss and then lost in 11 overs against England in the group stage. Then they started winning all crucial tosses and ended up winning the world cup.

Sri Lanka lost in 10 overs against Afghanistan when they lost the toss. Now they're looking like the team to beat in this Asia cup once they've started calling them right.

T20 is already too fickle a format to judge a team's overall potential but UAE just takes it to a whole another level. But it's still kind of entertaining though. It's like watching a movie when you know the protagonist is eventually going to win but still watch it with bated breath.

 

[Marooned]

I don’t need lectures on what happened in that game. I watched every ball. The drop catch is an excuse, Pakistan was not going to defend the total.

Australia always had the advantage because it is almost impossible to bowl at the death in Dubai, England lost the semifinal to a crap New Zealand team for the same reason.

In Dubai, you have to aim for 190-200 to give your bowlers breathing space at the death, but that’s impossible when you have selfish stats padders like Babar and Rizwan opening the innings who gifted Australia the match with their slow batting.

176/4 in a T20 game screams bad tactics and inability to utilize your wickets. 176/4 should be converted into 196/7 and perhaps then you can defend totals in Dubai.

I'm not sure what your point here is. If it was a toss wc why bash Pakistan? For losing toss? What stopped other "quality teams" from putting up better totals to give their bowlers "breathing space" at death?
Selfish Babar Rizwan don't play for England do they? Perhaps they shouldn't have lost to crap NZ then.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Angoor khattey hai

This is really strange and funny from my fellow indian fans. You guys were first calling this Asia Cup an irrelevant tournament and now you are trying to find excuses to justify india's poor show in this tournament. Just like our selectors our fans are one of the most confused lot out there.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

This is why I keep saying. India should not worry about this Asia Cup. India lost all 3 tosses in the 2nd round. If we won even 2 tosses we wud be in the final

Of course trolls will say this is lame excuse from Indians. But if almost 100% wins at Dubai in both Asia Cup & World T20 is by the team batting 2nd - can u really argue the toss is not a factor ?

U can say India has poor bowling attack. But then Aus , Eng , NZ , Pak , South Africa - all lost batting 1st in Dubai. None of them managed a win. Do all of them have poor bowling ?

These are indeed lame excuses from trolls who are only looking at the scorecard and not watching the actual match. There was not even any dew out there. Watch before commenting.

 

[Mesozoic]

These are indeed lame excuses from trolls who are only looking at the scorecard and not watching the actual match. There was not even any dew out there. Watch before commenting.

Lol saying toss is significant at a venue where 19 of the 20 games played between the top sides were won by team winning the toss is suddenly an "lame excuse" but saying "aUsTrAliA wErE wEaK wHeN iNdIa bEAt tHeM " even though former were at full strength and the latter fielded a third string side is a valid excuse. )

 

[Mesozoic]

Angoor khattey hai

This is really strange and funny from my fellow indian fans. You guys were first calling this Asia Cup an irrelevant tournament and now you are trying to find excuses to justify india's poor show in this tournament. Just like our selectors our fans are one of the most confused lot out there.

Lol at khattey angoor. We won 3 out of the last 5 Asia Cups. Jadeja has more Asia cup trophies than you guys.

 

[Saurav]

Can't just blame the toss. India beat Afghanistan even though they lost the toss. And Afghanistan lost to Pakistan even though they won the toss.

Pak won the toss v Afghanistan

 

[Suleiman]

Then stop playing cricket in the UAE. Everyone knows how the pitches work in the UAE. This isn’t really a new discovery.

 

[Saj]

8 matches have been played in Dubai so far at the Asia Cup:

6 matches won by team batting second
2 matches won by team batting first (India v Hong Kong & India v Afghanistan)

 

[chuck]

Thanks Saj. Stats are definitely pointing towards Team batting second having a significant advantage - HK was too weak a team and Ind-Afg was the only match where a 200+ score was achieved, which seems to be a minimum for a team batting first if they want to win. Last world cup had similar stats as well. I wonder why that's the case, any logical explanation on why conditions change in favor of team batting second in Dubai? and what specifically gets better or worse?

 

[Ashmal]

Yeah....toss made Arshdeep drop Asif Ali.

Why did India even bother to play they should've forfeited after losing the toss itself.

Btw...Pakistan has defended plenty of 150+ totals in the past on these same pitches of Dubai/Abu Dhabi/Sharjah.

Cricket in UAE didn't just start with the T20 WC last year.

 

[Mainul]

I agree with Manjrekar .


Toss is the winner in this Asia cup. And it is going to decide the final too

 

[TheSultan]

Pakistan couldn’t defend 176 in the WT20 Semifinal in Dubai. Australia cantered home with an over to spare.

Manjrekar is right - toss plays an excessively influential role in Dubai/UAE, teams batting first have a huge disadvantage.

Pakistan have played poor cricket in this tournament and does not deserve to be the final. Like the World T20, Babar’s luck at the toss is the only reason why Pakistan have qualified for the knockout stage.

Seems like someone’s upset India is out! You Indian fans need to be a bit less bitter.

If it was such an advantage, the chasing team would “canter” home and every match wouldn’t go to the final over with only a few balls to spare.

 

[happydavy]

Idiot Manjrekar doing it only to gain some subscribers and be in news. In India, these cheerleaders can't criticize Indian team, the only thing they can do is to look for ways to keep praising Indian team. First of all, i don't think toss decided the result, India lost because they are an average team. Secondly, does Manjrekar have any alternate to suggest, if not toss? For a moment let's assume pitches are better under lights then wot can anyone do about it? India has all the power, let bcci propose that matches be held during day time. They won't ever do that because our supertstars will then have issue with the heat. I am surprised no one questions this but the world cup and now the Asia Cup and India remains the only team in the world to play all their matches in Dubai (not a single one in Sharjah). Everything gets scheduled based upon indian cricketers comfort.

 

[Front Foot Pull]

doesn't matter what manjrekar says, the toss has had a significant impact in UAE. in both T20 WC 2021 and this asia cup. the stats are out there. people can choose to act blind. does the toss help 10/10 times? no. but mostly 8/10 times, yes.
all said, india can't use this as an excuse. they should aim to be as strong to overcome the toss factor.

 

[Major]

Indian fans used to claim that asia cup did not matter than why all of a sudden they crying about toss?

The pak vs india streak in wc, india won majority of the tosses. Last few games e lost to them in the wc, toss played a big factor there but did pakistan whined.

It seems as if bad performing teams have found an excuse.

India should had defeated sri lanka. It was irrelevent what the toss was. Sri lanka lost to afg, they were that terrible

 

[Front Foot Pull]

Indian fans used to claim that asia cup did not matter than why all of a sudden they crying about toss?

The pak vs india streak in wc, india won majority of the tosses. Last few games e lost to them in the wc, toss played a big factor there but did pakistan whined.

It seems as if bad performing teams have found an excuse.

India should had defeated sri lanka. It was irrelevent what the toss was. Sri lanka lost to afg, they were that terrible

Exactly.
Its not like playing WCs in various countries is different to playing in one paticular country where stats show something. They are both the same. No wonder we are crying since we've won the Asia cup only 7 times.

 

[castortroy]

Of course the toss has played a major roles in games in the UAE. Those that disagree are completely deluded

Tomorrow game will be decided by the toss.

 

[sweep_shot]

It is true.

But, no major team should blame the toss. If you play well, you can still win even if you bat first.

 

[jnaveen1980]

doesn't matter what manjrekar says, the toss has had a significant impact in UAE. in both T20 WC 2021 and this asia cup. the stats are out there. people can choose to act blind. does the toss help 10/10 times? no. but mostly 8/10 times, yes.
all said, india can't use this as an excuse. they should aim to be as strong to overcome the toss factor.

Indian bowling was far too weak. Probably the weakest among all the sides. Even one they found was dropped against Srilanka. They indulged in bizarre experiments. Playing one bowler less was a poor idea. India's lack of batting depth exposed in both matches. They were in strong position by 15th over only to give away the momentum in the last 5.

 

[sweep_shot]

Indian bowling was far too weak. Probably the weakest among all the sides. Even one they found was dropped against Srilanka. They indulged in bizarre experiments. Playing one bowler less was a poor idea. India's lack of batting depth exposed in both matches. They were in strong position by 15th over only to give away the momentum in the last 5.

I feel like India were overconfident both in this Asia Cup and also last World T20.

Intensity was missing.

Reminds me of Brazil's 2006 World Cup team.

 

[BOBO4393]

Lol saying toss is significant at a venue where 19 of the 20 games played between the top sides were won by team winning the toss is suddenly an "lame excuse" but saying "aUsTrAliA wErE wEaK wHeN iNdIa bEAt tHeM " even though former were at full strength and the latter fielded a third string side is a valid excuse. )

What can you expect him,he may portray his identify as indian but all we know where he is filled with deep hatered against indian players that's clearly evident, And almost most posters are biased they don't discuss and appreciate cricket here instead they are driven by xenophobia But I truly admire A poster here called "Rana" That guys always appreciate good cricket may be a many others too .

 

[BOBO4393]

Whoever says toss is insignificant here than why almost 90% Team batting second won except a few where other team was far inferior, And Why every caption 10/10 Times choose bat second, if toss isn't factor and i would love to see babar today win the toss and bat first which babar wouldn't do ,But people couldn't any extent to justify their false supermacy, Same indian side thrashed world cup winning side Australia and England in practice matches and they do smash everyone in bilateral ,i accpet our bowler inferior to pakistan ,lanka and afgan specially in Asia cup But team india is still is best and their Ranking also proves that Though i admire pak's new pace bowler but their batting is even inferior to srilanka in t20

 

[daytrader]

Pak won the toss v Afghanistan

Yes, I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing it out!

 

[Ashmal]

Idiot Manjrekar doing it only to gain some subscribers and be in news. In India, these cheerleaders can't criticize Indian team, the only thing they can do is to look for ways to keep praising Indian team. First of all, i don't think toss decided the result, India lost because they are an average team. Secondly, does Manjrekar have any alternate to suggest, if not toss? For a moment let's assume pitches are better under lights then wot can anyone do about it? India has all the power, let bcci propose that matches be held during day time. They won't ever do that because our supertstars will then have issue with the heat. I am surprised no one questions this but the world cup and now the Asia Cup and India remains the only team in the world to play all their matches in Dubai (not a single one in Sharjah). Everything gets scheduled based upon indian cricketers comfort.

Good point.

India always get a favourable schedule in all events.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Idiot Manjrekar doing it only to gain some subscribers and be in news. In India, these cheerleaders can't criticize Indian team, the only thing they can do is to look for ways to keep praising Indian team. First of all, i don't think toss decided the result, India lost because they are an average team. Secondly, does Manjrekar have any alternate to suggest, if not toss? For a moment let's assume pitches are better under lights then wot can anyone do about it? India has all the power, let bcci propose that matches be held during day time. They won't ever do that because our supertstars will then have issue with the heat. I am surprised no one questions this but the world cup and now the Asia Cup and India remains the only team in the world to play all their matches in Dubai (not a single one in Sharjah). Everything gets scheduled based upon indian cricketers comfort.

I find it funny these entitled brats schedule everything under the sun in Dubai, where dew or no dew chasing team has always had an advantage, and then cry about losing tosses.

What’s stopping them from arranging matches in Sharjah?

 

[Front Foot Pull]

Good point.

India always get a favourable schedule in all events.

Lol. India gets a schedule favourable to the broadcaster, organisers and sponsors NOT india.
Last T20 WC star sports greedily got the first two india matches on sundays with a week gap between them, ideally the team would've liked a match in between to stay in flow. They got knocked out and star sports learnt a lesson.
Now go check this year's WC schedule they've realized and scheduled india matches on sundays again but with an extra match with yet to be qualified team in between those.
The venues, dates and times of india matches are scheduled by ICC to please the sponsors NOT india.

Players who play their test matches in burning sun are afraid to play an evening T20 lol. Kuch bhi.

 

[Front Foot Pull]

I find it funny these entitled brats schedule everything under the sun in Dubai, where dew or no dew chasing team has always had an advantage, and then cry about losing tosses.

What’s stopping them from arranging matches in Sharjah?

"Entitled brats" nice. Then what should be a team who is eating money generated from india be called?
If one thinks rationally, we can easily see that the organizers wanted to exploit the extra seating capacity of dubai stadium compared to rubbish sharjah stadium. But nah, we just want to drill our agenda.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Indian fans used to claim that asia cup did not matter than why all of a sudden they crying about toss?

The pak vs india streak in wc, india won majority of the tosses. Last few games e lost to them in the wc, toss played a big factor there but did pakistan whined.

It seems as if bad performing teams have found an excuse.

India should had defeated sri lanka. It was irrelevent what the toss was. Sri lanka lost to afg, they were that terrible

Quite surprising you find that somehow contradictory. Asia Cup is an irrelevant tournament and toss being a factor at a venue . Those are facts that can co-exist.

Nothing contradictory about it.

 

[Mamoon]

Seems like someone’s upset India is out! You Indian fans need to be a bit less bitter.

If it was such an advantage, the chasing team would “canter” home and every match wouldn’t go to the final over with only a few balls to spare.

Last 19 T20Is in Dubai: 16 won by teams batting second.

There is no denying this fact.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Lol saying toss is significant at a venue where 19 of the 20 games played between the top sides were won by team winning the toss is suddenly an "lame excuse" but saying "aUsTrAliA wErE wEaK wHeN iNdIa bEAt tHeM " even though former were at full strength and the latter fielded a third string side is a valid excuse. )

You can look at the strength of a team and call it weakest/strongest and compare it to their previous teams but how can you put the blame of a loss on a coin? That's so lame lol. And why do these toss excuses only come up when India lose a match? Angoor abhi bhi khattey hai.

 

[Usman Chadda]

There is a certain advantage for sure, but the psychological pressure of batting first has been the downfall of teams in this Asia Cup. Also, none of the teams involved here have decent batting line-ups. India is declining, Pakistan and Sri Lanka have barely acceptable batters in their line-ups, and the less said about Bangladesh and Afghanistan the better.

 

[Mesozoic]

You can look at the strength of a team and call it weakest/strongest and compare it to their previous teams

Lmao you are still at it. Compared to whom were they the "weakest"? As I said before I'm only going to drag you further down on this matter how many times you run away from this topic..)

but how can you put the blame of a loss on a coin? That's so lame lol. And why do these toss excuses only come up when India lose a match? Angoor abhi bhi khattey hai.

I'll repeat again. 19 games between the top sides and 18 won by teams winning the toss and batting second. That's close to 95% winning probability if you are chasing. You can dig your head in the sand all you want.. but those are true facts. And lol at only indians complaining. You guys used the same "excuse" when you lost to India in the first game and the semifinal against Australia last year.

 

[Mesozoic]

There is a certain advantage for sure, but the psychological pressure of batting first has been the downfall of teams in this Asia Cup. Also, none of the teams involved here have decent batting line-ups. India is declining, Pakistan and Sri Lanka have barely acceptable batters in their line-ups, and the less said about Bangladesh and Afghanistan the better.

There is no batting lineup in the world that can undo the toss advantage in Dubai against a decent bowling attack. None.

 

[Usman Chadda]

There is no batting lineup in the world that can undo the toss advantage in Dubai against a decent bowling attack. None.

Regardless of a win or loss, your middle-order underperformed in the two must-win games. You will lose games in Australia too, specially since Sharma and Kohli are on the decline aswell.

 

[TheSultan]

What I don’t understand is - the people crying about it (if it indeed is an advantage), what is your proposed solution in a tournament? This is not like 5/6 match bilateral series where you can alternate.

In a tournament, you have way too many permutations and combinations for an alternation of toss to work.

What exactly do you all want? I’m sorry, someone has to bat first - that’s cricket, live with it!