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Sri Lanka appoint Mickey Arthur as Head Coach, Grant Flower as Batting Coach

Hasan123 said:
I like Mickey. But if you are going to praise him for the batting performance, surely you have to criticise him for the bowling? I'm sure If they bowled well , you would be praising Mickey.
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They're two bowlers down - Rajitha and de Silva who averaged 11 on the last tour of SAF.
 
Markhor said:
They're two bowlers down - Rajitha and de Silva who averaged 11 on the last tour of SAF.
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Don't think De Silva would have made a difference here and the other seamers are struggling so not sure what Rajitha would have done here.
 
Not going well so far. In recent times got whitewashed away in tests vs SA, got whitewashed in tests at home vs Eng, got whitewashed by WI in T20s at home and following 2-1 defeat in T20s vs WI away now whitewashed by WI in ODIs (WI’s first series win against top 7 sides in last 8 years).
 
Mickey and Grant Flower taking Sri Lanka for a ride now. Flower stole a living from the PCB, Pakistan for 5 long years and then had the audacity to criticize living in Pakistan after the end of his tenure. Any other board would have fired him a lot earlier.
 
Savak said:
Mickey and Grant Flower taking Sri Lanka for a ride now. Flower stole a living from the PCB, Pakistan for 5 long years and then had the audacity to criticize living in Pakistan after the end of his tenure. Any other board would have fired him a lot earlier.
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PCB must have seen something in Flower due to which they kept him going for 5 years. I mean if they didn't get anything in return, he would have been fired much earlier.
 
WOAH.

Not surprised.

Best decision by Wasim Khan to kick him out and appoint Misbah.

Sri Lanka is seeing results already -- LOSING EVERYTHING.

Misbah putting us on a winning trajectory finally, and reclaiming our lost glory in Tests.
 
There is not much Mickey and Flower can do, Srilanka are just a very weak side now, I think batting wise they still have some hope, but bowling desperately needs someone to step up.

WI have also improved lately, they have let go of players like Russell, Narine, Bravo, etc. Who were only interested in playing T20 leagues and making money and have instead focussed on the available lot and have groomed them brilliantly.
 
sam_ahm said:
There is not much Mickey and Flower can do, Srilanka are just a very weak side now, I think batting wise they still have some hope, but bowling desperately needs someone to step up.

WI have also improved lately, they have let go of players like Russell, Narine, Bravo, etc. Who were only interested in playing T20 leagues and making money and have instead focussed on the available lot and have groomed them brilliantly.
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The seniors have returned though, bravo made a hundred to; pollard is captain. It’s about balance really and utilising youth and experience
 
Hawkeye said:
WOAH.

Not surprised.

Best decision by Wasim Khan to kick him out and appoint Misbah.

Sri Lanka is seeing results already -- LOSING EVERYTHING.

Misbah putting us on a winning trajectory finally, and reclaiming our lost glory in Tests.
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I actually do prefer Misbah-Younis in the “winning games” department to Mickey-Grant and that’s saying something :))

Misbah was a terrible selector though.

The third metric is talent development which Mickey was decent at in terms of attitude building but terrible at in terms of technicals. It remains to be seen how Misbah fairs in this metric for whom it’s too early to make a call.

We should have a clearer picture by the end of this year.
 
Hawkeye said:
WOAH.

Not surprised.

Best decision by Wasim Khan to kick him out and appoint Misbah.

Sri Lanka is seeing results already -- LOSING EVERYTHING.

Misbah putting us on a winning trajectory finally, and reclaiming our lost glory in Tests.
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Lol. There's being delusional but this is outright denying facts.

Just home win against SA is all Misbah has on his CV. Just because Mickey was terrible in home tests it doesn't mean this is some great achievement. Teams are supposed to win at home, and this was the worst SA team to tour in living memory.

In any other metric you can think of Misbah doesn't have a patch on Mickey's tenure. You can choose ODI's, t20's, tests abroad, development of talent, improving strike rates etc. Misbah is a grand old failure in every department and Mickey wipes the floor with him in comparison.
 
Mickey is a joke. Completely clueless. No international team should go anywhere near him.

No wonder he hasn’t attracted interest from a top team after the Australian disaster and has never been considered by an IPL franchise.

Probably the worst coach in the world.
 
Mamoon said:
Mickey is a joke. Completely clueless. No international team should go anywhere near him.

No wonder he hasn’t attracted interest from a top team after the Australian disaster and has never been considered by an IPL franchise.

Probably the worst coach in the world.
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Wouldn't you consider Misbah worse than him?
 
Mamoon said:
Mickey is a joke. Completely clueless. No international team should go anywhere near him.

No wonder he hasn’t attracted interest from a top team after the Australian disaster and has never been considered by an IPL franchise.

Probably the worst coach in the world.
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Under his coaching Pakistan has won CT and drew a series in England. Allowed PCT to get rid of Umar Akmal.
Infused some sense of accountability into Pakistan team. These are good things.
 
Arthur's been in charge of Sri Lanka for 18 months now and almost all their batsmen have regressed under his charge. It's absolutely painful watching them bat.

Sri Lankan cricket had slowly been moving in the right direction under Chandika Hathurusingha, but the egotistical administrators in the board had never been comfortable with the idea of a local coach. It's staggering that largely the same team won a series in South Africa a couple of years ago.
 
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They've lost 11 out of their last 12 matches across all formats.

Horror run dating back to March 2020.
 
Sri Lanka seem to be struggling for talent but most of the games they are losing, they aren't even competing in. Serious questions need to be asked of Mickey Arthur. He went on a similar losing run as Pakistan coach. That's 2 jobs in a row where he has been on a serious losing run.

I think when it comes to player development for younger players he has something. But when it comes to building a team and tactics, I don’t think he is upto the mark.
 
Arthur used to be good back in 2000s before he developed massive ego and refused to evolve. Now he's gone out of touch with strategies and is only good at identifying talent. Apart from that, his strategies in all formats is backwards, refuses to go horses for courses, refuses to accept spin dominant attacks could win tests. In his current tenure, he has messed with SL's batting order too much already.

Grant Flower is the worst batting coach one can have. All he has to say is I have no words for our performance, I don't know why we batted so poorly etc etc.

Steve Rixon is the only good coach under their current management.

Mickey made an average coach Darren Lehmann look like treasure.

He is too rigid in his approach and needs to be more open minded in terms of planning and making and following strategies.
 
Mickey used to take many public digs at Pakistani players and had a terrible habit of throwing players under the bus when things got tough. I wonder if he misses the Pakistani gig now and is realizing that the grass is greener on the other side
 
Actually more than Mickey , problems for SL has been quite prevalent for last 5 years or so after the departure of Sanga-Mahela, and then fading Mahela... They dont even have a good fast bowler to reckon with for last 4 years now.. they might have few good spinners coming, and their batting is too inexperienced..

And then they have corruptions in selecting players, and that is why they sacked their chief selector in past month or so..

They really not getting it , or not able to channelize their talents up to the highest level.. Except for may be 2/3 players, no one is a starter in playing 11 for them..
 
Savak said:
Mickey used to take many public digs at Pakistani players and had a terrible habit of throwing players under the bus when things got tough. I wonder if he misses the Pakistani gig now and is realizing that the grass is greener on the other side
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To be fair to him, he came to a lot of press conferences after a bad showing and took the questions and flak on the chin, rather than hiding in the dressing room.
 
Saj said:
To be fair to him, he came to a lot of press conferences after a bad showing and took the questions and flak on the chin, rather than hiding in the dressing room.
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Our fans are mercurial ...

Just wait for one bad series in SA and, all we will come out with Sack Misbah slogans
 
Savak said:
Mickey used to take many public digs at Pakistani players and had a terrible habit of throwing players under the bus when things got tough. I wonder if he misses the Pakistani gig now and is realizing that the grass is greener on the other side
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He did that until the 2018 Asia Cup where the brutal reality-check finally made him overcome his delusions and he realized that neither him nor the Pakistani players had the capability to play world class cricket.

The last 9-10 months of his tenure were all about him accepting the status quo and simply waiting for his contract to expire.
 
Mickey’s and Grant’s two years stint with Srl so has been horrible with nothing to show in terms of performance and even much improvement rather have been losing series against teams which they would have been expected to win couple of years ago.

I dont buy the argument that its just because Srl’s team is lacking quality players as they both knew what kind of resources they will have at their disposal and they took the job with the aim of improvement. Nobody expected them to set the world on fire but, atleast some direction and improvement.

Srl’s last head coach Harhurusingha had much more to show with almost similar set of players (Except the big absence of Herath in tests) than the current Srl team management.
 
Can’t blame him, it’s not his fault that the Sri Lankan team is worse than Pakistan’s women’s team.
 
You cant blame coach when your domestic cricket failed to produce quality cricketers.
 
I really liked him and would have him back in a heartbeat. Mickey, Grant and Rixon dragged the Pakistan cricket team kicking and screaming into the twenty first century. Sure they have their limitations but they didn't deserve to be replaced.
 
Titan24 said:
Mickey’s and Grant’s two years stint with Srl so has been horrible with nothing to show in terms of performance and even much improvement rather have been losing series against teams which they would have been expected to win couple of years ago.

I dont buy the argument that its just because Srl’s team is lacking quality players as they both knew what kind of resources they will have at their disposal and they took the job with the aim of improvement. Nobody expected them to set the world on fire but, atleast some direction and improvement.

Srl’s last head coach Harhurusingha had much more to show with almost similar set of players (Except the big absence of Herath in tests) than the current Srl team management.
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I watched the entire match and I don't think even god can help them. Sri lankan players looked very unintelligent. And I'm being very nice here. At least minnow players have passion and lack experience, these guys are something else. This team is worse than Bangladesh from 2003.
 
Mamoon said:
He did that until the 2018 Asia Cup where the brutal reality-check finally made him overcome his delusions and he realized that neither him nor the Pakistani players had the capability to play world class cricket.

The last 9-10 months of his tenure were all about him accepting the status quo and simply waiting for his contract to expire.
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Despite what you think we are a pretty solid team.

Other than India we are likely to beat all top teams at home and lose to them overseas. I believe England is ranked higher than us and we are likely to thrash them in a home series and be competitive for 1-2 tests away. We are a poor limited overs team but in tests we are well placed at being #4.
 
zarak said:
Despite what you think we are a pretty solid team.

Other than India we are likely to beat all top teams at home and lose to them overseas. I believe England is ranked higher than us and we are likely to thrash them in a home series and be competitive for 1-2 tests away. We are a poor limited overs team but in tests we are well placed at being #4.
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I wouldn’t agree.

Pakistan would beat most teams at home as long as Yasir is around. Our spin bowling stocks for the future look very ordinary and the type of pitch that Pakistan rolled out for South Africa at Rawalpindi can easily backfire against a team like Australia, England, New Zealand etc. who have superior pace attacks and stronger batting lineups.

Our Test batting has significantly weakened after Younis and Misbah. Babar has failed to set up and establish himself as a 50+ averaging Test batsman, and Fawad himself is not that consistent and is more of a 35-40 averaging player against quality attacks.

The white balls teams are almost minnow level but the Test side is cannot be categorized as a solid team either. It is short of two quality specialist batsmen including a quality opener and a proper spinner. The 2014-2016 Pakistan Test team will easily beat the current one.
 
Mickey still unhappy - his reaction to SL's troubles in 1st ODI vs England

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Mamoon said:
I wouldn’t agree.

Pakistan would beat most teams at home as long as Yasir is around. Our spin bowling stocks for the future look very ordinary and the type of pitch that Pakistan rolled out for South Africa at Rawalpindi can easily backfire against a team like Australia, England, New Zealand etc. who have superior pace attacks and stronger batting lineups.

Our Test batting has significantly weakened after Younis and Misbah. Babar has failed to set up and establish himself as a 50+ averaging Test batsman, and Fawad himself is not that consistent and is more of a 35-40 averaging player against quality attacks.

The white balls teams are almost minnow level but the Test side is cannot be categorized as a solid team either. It is short of two quality specialist batsmen including a quality opener and a proper spinner. The 2014-2016 Pakistan Test team will easily beat the current one.
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I do not really care too much about white ball cricket; less said about t20 the better.

As far as tests are concerned England and Australia will find it hard to beat us at home. New Zealand would struggle too but they are a good competitive team

It does not matter so much if our spin bowling is weak because overseas teams are so pathetic at playing spin. Guys like Axar Patel, Zulfiqar Babar, and Abdur Rehman have been destroying overseas batsman. We just need a few mediocre blokes like Nauman Ali or Zahid Mehmood to get the job done. We will keep winning at home and losing overseas just like every other top team.

India and New Zealand are in a league above us. Australia, England are in our league. England may be worse since they have even started losing at home. Realistically the top 5 teams are likely

NZ: Win at home; competitive away
India: Win at home; competitive away

Australia: Win at home- terrible away
Pakistan: Win at home- terrible away
South Africa: Win at home- terrible away
England: Competitive home- terrible away

The rest do not count since they routinely lose at home and away

There you go. We are not the best but nearly not the worst
 
Sri Lankan cricket is an absolute shambles right now, however, it's hard to pinpoint precisely what Arthur can do to change results in the interim.
 
Last Monetarist said:
Sri Lankan cricket is an absolute shambles right now, however, it's hard to pinpoint precisely what Arthur can do to change results in the interim.
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Maybe recall someone like Angelo Matthews, Asela Gunaratne and maybe Chandimal. Thisara has been their biggest impact player since the retirements of their big guns but they forced him into retirement by telling him they don't plan to pick him in future.
 
Under Grant Flower, their batters aren't going to go anywhere.
He'll just go like "I have no idea what happened out there, they are better players than what they showed out there today" x infinity
 
The way things currently stand in Sri Lankan cricket, you could pretty much have anyone as Head Coach and it will make very little difference.

They seem to be heading in the same direction as West Indies, only without the T20 firepower.

Some dark days ahead for the Lankans it seems.
 
Sri Lanka's cricket board is planning disciplinary action against batting coach Grant Flower following allegations that he breached a bio-secure bubble during an England tour, cricket sources said Thursday.

Sri Lanka's preparations for a home series against India were disrupted when Flower, 50, tested positive for Covid-19 on his return to the national team on July 6.

Three Sri Lankan players, including vice-captain Kusal Mendis, were sent home early after they left the team's bio-secure hotel for a night out in Durham ahead of the first one-day international.

Official sources said Sri Lanka Cricket will investigate reports that Flower also breached the Covid-19 restrictions.

"An inquiry will be held after he (Flower) recovers fully," a board source told AFP. "There are allegations that he also breached the bio-secure bubble."

Media reports said the board was also unhappy with the performance of Flower, a former Zimbabwe Test player who is under contract until the end of the year.

Sri Lanka are eighth in the Test team rankings and ninth in one-day formats and team morale is reportedly low. The players have been at loggerheads with the board over new performance-linked contracts.

The board has brought in local coach Dhammika Sudarshana as a temporary replacement for Flower for three one-day games and three Twenty20 matches against India starting Sunday.

The India matches were delayed by five days to July 18 following positive tests by Flower and a team's data analyst.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...lanka-inquiry-over-virus-bubble-breach/785563
 
If there is anyone who deserve a big fat kick on his behind while being kicked out, it is Grant Flower. He has achieved zilch everywhere he has gone.
 
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