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India should focus on redrawing its anti-terrorism policy rather than blaming Pakistan without evidence for the Pulwama attack and holding China responsible for blocking efforts to list Jaish-e-Muhammad (JeM) Chief Masood Azhar as a terrorist at the UN also without proof, Hindustan Times reported quoting Chinese state media.

India has failed to provide “solid evidence” against Azhar and China has rightly practised caution against listing him as a terrorist, the state media comment piece said.

It advised “quiet diplomacy” on India’s part to “better address” the Azhar issue.

At least 44 Indian paramilitary personnel were killed in a suicide bombing in occupied Kashmir’s Pulwama district on February 14, the attack reportedly claimed by JeM, proscribed as terror group since 2002 by the UN.

The comment piece published in the nationalistic tabloid Global Times — affiliated to the Communist Party of China’s (CPC) People’s Daily — dismissed New Delhi’s assertions.

“Without solid evidence, India has long accused Pakistan of sponsoring terrorist attacks by JeM and other militant groups and China of providing uncritical support for Pakistan,” the article said.

At least 44 Indian paramilitary personnel were killed in a suicide bombing in occupied Kashmir’s Pulwama district on February 14, the attack reportedly claimed by JeM, proscribed as terror group since 2002 by the UN.

The comment piece published in the nationalistic tabloid Global Times — affiliated to the Communist Party of China’s (CPC) People’s Daily — dismissed New Delhi’s assertions.

“Without solid evidence, India has long accused Pakistan of sponsoring terrorist attacks by JeM and other militant groups and China of providing uncritical support for Pakistan,” the article said.
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It asked a question: “Instead of simply blaming other countries, especially Pakistan and China, shouldn’t the Indian government make more self-introspection on its anti-terrorism policy?

“As for the issue of listing Azhar, Beijing has reiterated its stand several times that New Delhi should provide solid facts and proofs for banning Azhar.”

The article added that China has reason to cautiously handle the issue. “Observers worry that blacklisting Azhar could be used by India to increase its military pressure on Pakistan, thus risking exacerbating tensions between the two countries.”

It also dismissed the argument that by blocking India’s bid to proscribe Azhar, China was supporting terrorism.

asked a question: “Instead of simply blaming other countries, especially Pakistan and China, shouldn’t the Indian government make more self-introspection on its anti-terrorism policy?

“As for the issue of listing Azhar, Beijing has reiterated its stand several times that New Delhi should provide solid facts and proofs for banning Azhar.”

The article added that China has reason to cautiously handle the issue. “Observers worry that blacklisting Azhar could be used by India to increase its military pressure on Pakistan, thus risking exacerbating tensions between the two countries.”

It also dismissed the argument that by blocking India’s bid to proscribe Azhar, China was supporting terrorism.
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“Citing China’s refusal to support the bid to have Azhar blacklisted by the UN, India in recent years has aggressively blamed China for allying with Pakistan in shielding terrorists. It disregards the fact that as a victim of terrorism itself, China has pledged to support the international community’s anti-terrorism efforts and stands ready to work with India and all other countries to fight terrorism,” the article said.

“Blaming Beijing and Islamabad for the terrorist attack will arouse Indians’ anxieties over neighbouring countries. A tough stance by the BJP government may help the ruling party win more support. But this will risk anti-terrorism cooperation being sabotaged for the political interests of parties in India.”

Blaming Pakistan and China could also disrupt the anti-terrorism efforts under the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), which admitted New Delhi and Islamabad in 2017, the Global Times said.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1913306/9/
 
I can understand what they are saying but seriously Azhar Masood? I cannot even put my head around how China expects us to provide any more proof against that guy? I mean seriously the terrorists that hijacked the effin plane demanded his release China OMG lol.
 
I can understand what they are saying but seriously Azhar Masood? I cannot even put my head around how China expects us to provide any more proof against that guy? I mean seriously the terrorists that hijacked the effin plane demanded his release China OMG lol.

India still hasn't provided any evidence Hafeez Saeed was the mastermind of the attacks in Mumbai in 2008. The same will be probably happen now. If India has the evidence and is sure, why not show it to the world and embarrass Pakistan into action?

Even Indians inc on this forum are saying this recent incident is a false flag.
 
India still hasn't provided any evidence Hafeez Saeed was the mastermind of the attacks in Mumbai in 2008. The same will be probably happen now. If India has the evidence and is sure, why not show it to the world and embarrass Pakistan into action?

Even Indians inc on this forum are saying this recent incident is a false flag.

Im specifically referring to Azhar here which the article states ,one really has to be blind to assume that guy is not a terrorist.
 
Im specifically referring to Azhar here which the article states ,one really has to be blind to assume that guy is not a terrorist.

It doesn't mean he was involved in this. Your own people are saying it was in inside job.
 
It doesn't mean he was involved in this. Your own people are saying it was in inside job.

? We have been trying to get him included for long before this , please read up.on him even the most biased sources read up plz.
 
? We have been trying to get him included for long before this , please read up.on him even the most biased sources read up plz.

Well here is golden opportunity. Show the evidence against him for this recent incident and while you're at it show the evidence against Saeed for the attacks in 2008. Bangladesh will dominate world cricket before Indians show this
 
I can understand what they are saying but seriously Azhar Masood? I cannot even put my head around how China expects us to provide any more proof against that guy? I mean seriously the terrorists that hijacked the effin plane demanded his release China OMG lol.

This guy has a huge rap sheet. It is mind boggling that two nations are protecting him. Even if he's innocent, it doesnt make sense for Pak and CHina to protect him as part of a key policy. That entire region of China, India, Pakistan and SL have horrendous human right violations and for them to protect one guy is a mystery.
 
Seems like China got Pakistan's back BIG TIME this time around. I am guessing CPEC's got something to do with it . Don't think India will be messing with Pakistan much except for talking crap .On a side not , does anyone find teh timing of the attacks a bit suspicious considering Elections are close and Modi Sarkar needs a win .
 
This guy has a huge rap sheet. It is mind boggling that two nations are protecting him. Even if he's innocent, it doesnt make sense for Pak and CHina to protect him as part of a key policy. That entire region of China, India, Pakistan and SL have horrendous human right violations and for them to protect one guy is a mystery.

There is no way Pakistanis will ever send someone who is a Pakistani to India, so protecting him is the only option short of extraditing him. It also doesn't make sense for India to whine about someone so much as to make him a part of a key policy everytime someone passes gas in India.
 
There is no way Pakistanis will ever send someone who is a Pakistani to India, so protecting him is the only option short of extraditing him. It also doesn't make sense for India to whine about someone so much as to make him a part of a key policy everytime someone passes gas in India.

What was he doing in India on a fake passport when he's a Pakistani citizen. Why was there a hijack of a commercial airline to release him. This guy is not any ordinary Pakistani citizen. There is something mysterious. WHy is China indulging themselves for a common Pakistani extremist when they deal with an iron fist againt their own Uighur extremists. He probably has his diary hidden somewhere with names if you know what I mean. Mysterious indeed.
 
What was he doing in India on a fake passport when he's a Pakistani citizen. Why was there a hijack of a commercial airline to release him. This guy is not any ordinary Pakistani citizen. There is something mysterious. WHy is China indulging themselves for a common Pakistani extremist when they deal with an iron fist againt their own Uighur extremists. He probably has his diary hidden somewhere with names if you know what I mean. Mysterious indeed.

Yeah except he isn't Thanos that an entire country can't move beyond it. If they were suffering from that much indigestion and if this guy was so extraordinary then they shouldn't have let him go, hijack or no hijack.

And whatever crimes he has supposedly done hell would freeze over before a Pakistani is ever handed to Indians. India can deal with this reality and move on or cry.
 
Yeah except he isn't Thanos that an entire country can't move beyond it. If they were suffering from that much indigestion and if this guy was so extraordinary then they shouldn't have let him go, hijack or no hijack.

And whatever crimes he has supposedly done hell would freeze over before a Pakistani is ever handed to Indians. India can deal with this reality and move on or cry.

No I agree with you about the obsession. I'm just trying to think objectively how three governments are obsessed with this guy. India's obsession to get him and Pak, CHina's obsession to protect him by hook or crook.

Donno if hell would freeze over but a bunch of accounts in Pak will be frozen with added scrutiny if Pak gets into the grey list of FAFT andf this guy is at the center of that too...
 
No I agree with you about the obsession. I'm just trying to think objectively how three governments are obsessed with this guy. India's obsession to get him and Pak, CHina's obsession to protect him by hook or crook.

Donno if hell would freeze over but a bunch of accounts in Pak will be frozen with added scrutiny if Pak gets into the grey list of FAFT andf this guy is at the center of that too...

Noone cares about FAFT, we have been on and off the list time and again.

If not Azhar, Indians will find some other bogeyman. As I am sure you're aware the bogeyman for the latest attack was Ghazi, who Indians claimed to have located and killed. Despite Ghazi being dead since 2007 after Pak army killed him :))
 
Noone cares about FAFT, we have been on and off the list time and again.

If not Azhar, Indians will find some other bogeyman. As I am sure you're aware the bogeyman for the latest attack was Ghazi, who Indians claimed to have located and killed. Despite Ghazi being dead since 2007 after Pak army killed him :))

FAFT is serious dude. Imran needs cash inflow and grey list will spook every investor. Let's see how he handles it. As far as Ghazi or some other bogeyman goes, if one's dead, there is always another. It never ends
 
Well here is golden opportunity. Show the evidence against him for this recent incident and while you're at it show the evidence against Saeed for the attacks in 2008. Bangladesh will dominate world cricket before Indians show this

Plz stop diverting,read about him and how he is free today.
 
There is no way Pakistanis will ever send someone who is a Pakistani to India, so protecting him is the only option short of extraditing him. It also doesn't make sense for India to whine about someone so much as to make him a part of a key policy everytime someone passes gas in India.

Congratulations for supporting a person that was freed by terrorists that hijacked a plane .
 
Plz stop diverting,read about him and how he is free today.

lol What diversion. The thread is regarding what China have said. India can plea with then UN but China being a member of UNSC will always veto any resolution against Pakistan. So the question is what evidence is there against him? All you have pointed to is something which happened decades ago.
 
Congratulations for supporting a person that was freed by terrorists that hijacked a plane .

Where have I supported him? How does me saying he should not be given to the Indians make it supporting him?

You guys are a pathetic dramay baaz nation, don't put words in my mouth.
 
lol What diversion. The thread is regarding what China have said. India can plea with then UN but China being a member of UNSC will always veto any resolution against Pakistan. So the question is what evidence is there against him? All you have pointed to is something which happened decades ago.

The resolution is against Azhar Masood..
 
Where have I supported him? How does me saying he should not be given to the Indians make it supporting him?

You guys are a pathetic dramay baaz nation, don't put words in my mouth.

Im pathetic for calling out you on how you are saying Pakistan will defend this guy?
Do you even remotely realize how he was caught and freed?
And you are saying not to put words in your mouth, say what you want to say nothing is remaining , you are the one getting frustrated here when all we are asking is what else China needs when this guy freed by terrorists was caught in India.
 
Im pathetic for calling out you on how you are saying Pakistan will defend this guy?
Do you even remotely realize how he was caught and freed?
And you are saying not to put words in your mouth, say what you want to say nothing is remaining , you are the one getting frustrated here when all we are asking is what else China needs when this guy freed by terrorists was caught in India.

He is a Pakistani. Never will he be given to India.

Get that through your head. No matter what he is done. No Pakistani will ever be sent to India. And if his crimes are fighting Indian oppressors in Kashmir, too bad for India.
 
He is a Pakistani. Never will he be given to India.

Get that through your head. No matter what he is done. No Pakistani will ever be sent to India. And if his crimes are fighting Indian oppressors in Kashmir, too bad for India.

Don't worry Im pretty clear on your views, thanks for detailing it. Good jihad bad Jihad gotcha.
 
Don't worry Im pretty clear on your views, thanks for detailing it. Good jihad bad Jihad gotcha.

There is nothing bad about fighting India's rapist army in Kashmir. And even if he is a mass murderer he will never be handed over to India. No Pakistani will ever be. And if Indians whine about it too much then shouldn't have let him go.
 
There is nothing bad about fighting India's rapist army in Kashmir. And even if he is a mass murderer he will never be handed over to India. No Pakistani will ever be. And if Indians whine about it too much then shouldn't have let him go.

I understood that in previous reply ,thanks for replying in your humane way once again focusing on mass murderer aspect this time.
 
I understood that in previous reply ,thanks for replying in your humane way once again focusing on mass murderer aspect this time.
No problem. I'm glad you understand that we won't ever hand any Pakistani to India. Never mind without any proof. India's proof is usually as valid as the tooth fairy stories.
 
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No problem. I'm glad you understand that we won't ever hand any Pakistani to India. Never mind without any proof. India's proof is usually as valid as the tooth fairy stories.

Whatever makes you feel better
 
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I said no Pakistani will ever be handed to India.

Where has that been proven untrue or are you incapable of reading?

Na. It's the case of two **** who are very similar. KSM and this other filth Azhar. Didn't understand why Pakistan wouldn't handover Azhar to India while they handed over KSM on a platter to USA. As I said earlier, Azhar probably has some info about deep state that makes him a valuable asset.
 
Na. It's the case of two **** who are very similar. KSM and this other filth Azhar. Didn't understand why Pakistan wouldn't handover Azhar to India while they handed over KSM on a platter to USA. As I said earlier, Azhar probably has some info about deep state that makes him a valuable asset.

No problem handing over citizens to any country, infact we handed a rapist over to UK a week back. However we will never ever hand over anyone to India, the entire nation would be up in arms. I am sure the reason is obvious and Indians never really provide iron clad proof for anything. We will just have to wait for Masood Azhar's natural life span to pass but then India will find another bogeyman. They found one in the dead Abdul Ghazi, so I am sure they can manage it again.

Now if Pakistan and India had a fantastic relationship, like we do with UK or even with US at times (which is home to a million Pakistanis) the situation would be easily be different.

And as for someone who told me last time he's not Indian, you spend an awful time cheerleading for them. ABCD, ideal term for you I guess :))
 
No problem handing over citizens to any country, infact we handed a rapist over to UK a week back. However we will never ever hand over anyone to India, the entire nation would be up in arms. I am sure the reason is obvious and Indians never really provide iron clad proof for anything. We will just have to wait for Masood Azhar's natural life span to pass but then India will find another bogeyman. They found one in the dead Abdul Ghazi, so I am sure they can manage it again.

Now if Pakistan and India had a fantastic relationship, like we do with UK or even with US at times (which is home to a million Pakistanis) the situation would be easily be different.

And as for someone who told me last time he's not Indian, you spend an awful time cheerleading for them. ABCD, ideal term for you I guess :))

Oh you should have seen how active I was during the drug war in Ciudad Juarez. I even visited it during it's most dangerous phase just to be part of it I ain't a Mexican either. Conflict is fascinating and I despise crime, terrorism in general. My views are usually based on logic because my stakes are not jingoism or patriotism but purely fascination with the topic.
 
Oh you should have seen how active I was during the drug war in Ciudad Juarez. I even visited it during it's most dangerous phase just to be part of it I ain't a Mexican either. Conflict is fascinating and I despise crime, terrorism in general. My views are usually based on logic because my stakes are not jingoism or patriotism but purely fascination with the topic.

Fair enough.
 
If i am not wrong, Masood and his brother / brother in law were caught by forces in 2016 and since then no one knows there whereabouts. And also there offices were sealed in 2016.
 
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