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Suggest ways/plans to get Virat Kohli out

Over reaction here. Kohli gets out plenty of time cheaply as well. Thread is making him sound as if he is a Bradman of ODI scoring 100 runs in each inning.
 
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Suggest ways/plans to get Kohli out

Basically. Just admit he will torture our 'decent' bowlers. Even :junaid wont be a threat :kohli is really gonna destroy us. We better hope he has a concentration lapse


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Over reaction here. Kohli gets out plenty of time cheaply as well. Thread is making him sound as if he is a Bradman of ODI scoring 100 runs in each inning.

On these bangla wkts (which includes this cup and the t20 cup to follow) he is 'un-outable' lol
 
Over reaction here, Pakistan will come out with a plan against Kohli and he will get out cheaply, my guess 11-16
 
Keep a deep midwicket. Thats his release shot. He will loft flick or pull (depending on the length of the ball) there. Regardless of a catch we will block his release shot and stop a boundry and dry up his runs a litl bit more.
 
Keep a deep midwicket. Thats his release shot. He will loft flick or pull (depending on the length of the ball) there. Regardless of a catch we will block his release shot and stop a boundry and dry up his runs a litl bit more.

A release shot usually means that a batsman manufacturers a shot out of a good ball to release pressure. Kohli does not do that, he punishes the bad balls as he picks ups lengths extremely fast. Even his shots to midwicket are of bad balls, either short or on leg

And he plays that shot so controlled that even if you put a fielder or two there, he will play to either side of them easily
 
Keep a deep midwicket. Thats his release shot. He will loft flick or pull (depending on the length of the ball) there. Regardless of a catch we will block his release shot and stop a boundry and dry up his runs a litl bit more.

I think his release shot is through cover. Haven't seen anyone in a while able to time the ball so well through there and beat fielders as easily as Kohli does there.
 
On these cement tracks what can a fast bowler do ? There is no bounce or seam to get him out.

Spinners may have a better chance if they keep it very tight, that too if there is no dew

Othetwise Just keep it tight outside off and hope he makes a mistake.
 
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Junaid Khan.

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A release shot usually means that a batsman manufacturers a shot out of a good ball to release pressure. Kohli does not do that, he punishes the bad balls as he picks ups lengths extremely fast. Even his shots to midwicket are of bad balls, either short or on leg

And he plays that shot so controlled that even if you put a fielder or two there, he will play to either side of them easily

But i noted this today and in new zealand that he usually picks the ball up from off stump and then clips it powerfully when hes not singles thats over. Could be wrong but bowling wicket to wicket on these flat tracks with a deep midwicket might do the trick.

And please no full length balls on this pitch unless you're intending a yorker. Gets too easy
 
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Let me describe Kohli: Talent comes naturally, his skill comes from hours and hours of beating on his craft, which is why he so good. He should be the ultimate role model for any young players, SRT has passed the torch onto his true successor now its upto rest of the other young bats from around the world to learn from kohli instead of saying stupid things like; 'If I hit one ball for four I want to hit the next one for four as well'


Oh and I feel he will score well against Pak next game......
 
as there is no dhoni.....kohli will play with more respobsibility....as he knows there is no finisher left in indian team...so he ll cncentrate more on pakistan game....difficult to stop him.....
 
Keep bombarding him with bouncers for about 3-4 bowls. On the 5th bowl, york him out. :gul

only if umar gul can get the yorker to tail back in ,then there might be a chance with a yorker. Otherwise you should ask malinga how well kohli plays yorkers
 
I think in series vs NZ, They got him early in 3rd & 4th ODI by consistently bowling good length on 6th or 7th stump outside off. Those pitches had very good bounce for fast bowlers though. Apart from inning of 183 Kohli is struggled against Pakistan in ODI's. Like Tendulkar his average is going to be below par against South Africa & Pakistan in ODI's.
 
I think in series vs NZ, They got him early in 3rd & 4th ODI by consistently bowling good length on 6th or 7th stump outside off. Those pitches had very good bounce for fast bowlers though. Apart from inning of 183 Kohli is struggled against Pakistan in ODI's. Like Tendulkar his average is going to be below par against South Africa & Pakistan in ODI's.

What is the par average in ODIs nowadays?
 
LOL. We aren't professionals but I have played the game for a local to understand that just doing simple things will get you the wicket. If you don't get any purchase for hard work and perseverance, than it's just bad luck and it's a game at the end of the day. I just watched the Ind-Bangla highlights on a stream a few hours ago. However, long before that I read this thread and you guys think it's so hard to dismiss him after just watching that one game.

Some things I wanted to point out was that Bangladesh's overall fielding and bowling were off the mark. In terms of bowling, they couldn't pitch the ball consistently in the right areas. This is a stark contrast to when they played SL and I did notice that they were bowling consistent line and length and building up the pressure. Then, SL went to 60-8 till Perera delivered a pounding. Bangladesh are very capable and they just didn't play to their potential yesterday. Problems such as Naeem Islam giving away 3 wides in a 15 run over which pretty much bought the run rate down from 6.88 to 6.2 and Razaq's second spell bowling full tosses and leg stump lines.

Plus, their fielding was abysmal. You know that Kohli was targeting straightish mid on and deep midwcket boundaries and peppering them throughout his ton. I noticed that some times the bangla fielders overran their fielding, didn't bother to dive or slide or too slow. Their overall standard of fielding was lower than what they are capable of in this match. What they should have done is bowl to their field, then less mistakes will be made. Look at SL for example, people such as Malinga, Perera and Senanayake can bowl the wrong line and length and get hit for runs, but that's where SL's standard of fielding makes up for that. Its simple, if you bowl to your field, you will apply the pressure.

However, I'm not going to take anything away from Kohli. That guy bats with than arrogance that only Lord Voldemort can match. His run making is smooth and versatile. His shot selection varies all around the ground and his work ethic was amazing. In a few years time, he will have cemented himself as one of the 10 greatest ODI batsman of all time.
 
One thing they need to get right Sunday is give Junaid the new ball.He is the only one who can get it to swing/seam, if there is any. Gul will be blasted to all parts,with the new ball, and the game will over before it has started.
 
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What is the par average in ODIs nowadays?

It's relative to overall average set by quality ODI batsmen like Kohli or Tendulkar in this case. In case of Sachin less than 44 against any opponent or for Kohli less than 50 at the moment. It may change for him in future though as per change in his overall ODI average. My post about below par was strictly based on relative to that player's ODI average for them. It's not criterion for measuring par for other players.
 
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One thing they need to get right Sunday is give Junaid the new ball.He is the only one who can get it to swing/seam, if there is any. Gul will be blasted to all parts and

Gul is the only fast bowler in this tournament along with SHami , who can get something out of these dead tracks. I see every chance of him producing that one wicket-taking delivery against Kohli. :kohli
 
Gul is the only fast bowler in this tournament along with SHami , who can get something out of these dead tracks. I see every chance of him producing that one wicket-taking delivery against Kohli. :kohli

No way Gul is that good.He is just an okay third seamer and the only weak link in our bowling line up.He is really good at death bowling and that is how he should be used.While Junaid has in recent times become the main strike weapon for Pakistan.Whenever Misbah needs a wicket he has produced one, has that ability to come up with a wicket ball..Take a look at the games after CT.You will notice how important is he to our ODI setup.The recent series against SriLanka is another example.He is in beast mode in ODI's whether he plays on dead tracks on green tops.One bad game doesn't change that.
 
I think Junaid will get him. All he needs to do is bowl the one coming slightly in from over the wicket first up when Kohli arrives at the crease.

Something like what Irfan Pathan bowled to Younis Khan during that Karachi test hat trick.
 
Compulsive puller, he may find himself in trouble against the quicker bowlers in Aus.

He did well in Perth, last time vs Aus test series, scoring a 45 & 70 had no issues against the short ball ditched up by the aussie quicks..
 
He did well in Perth, last time vs Aus test series, scoring a 45 & 70 had no issues against the short ball ditched up by the aussie quicks..
That's the only real crack I see, he's otherwise mentally strong and technically sound.
 
He scored more than 100 runs in a test @ Perth and scored a 100 in the very next test @ Adelaide

Adelaide was flat but both wickets had good bounce and except him every one else failed in our team :facepalm:
 
Throw the ball to a good fast bowler who can bowl just line and length on off stump or just outside of it.
 
Added responsibility as captain will likely go in our favour this time around, I don't think he will score that many. Just get the bowlers to bowl their lines and keep it straight since the wicket wont be doing much anyways, and catch all the chances that come along the way.
 
Suggest ways/plans to get Kohli out

Just hope that he has a bad day. The guy is phenomenal.
 
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The only time we have faced him before in Bangladesh he scored 180 against us. But in the other 7 ODIs against Pakistan he has struggled.

These ar his scores in 8 ODIs against Pakistan. 183, 22, 18, 16, 9, 7, 6, 0. Not very impressive except for one great knock.
 
The only time we have faced him before in Bangladesh he scored 180 against us. But in the other 7 ODIs against Pakistan he has struggled.

These ar his scores in 8 ODIs against Pakistan. 183, 22, 18, 16, 9, 7, 6, 0. Not very impressive except for one great knock.

Whats happening boi ? getting ready for the draft ? you might miss out on Clowney.. PHEW THANK GOD.. :D
 
Whats happening boi ? getting ready for the draft ? you might miss out on Clowney.. PHEW THANK GOD.. :D

Sup bro. Definitely ready fro the draft. Don't worry about Clowney. He's gonna be gone long before we pick at 12. Should have went 0-16. We're probably going WR or OL with the pick. Can't wait! :D
 
Does Kohli have a weakness Pakistan can exploit?

Broadcaster Showing analysis of each batsman wtr his strong and weak zone...

They didn't show weak zone of kohli ??

So he really do not have any weak zone ??
 
Good quality swing.

Bring asif and amir in and I would like to see Kohlie survive them.

Though to be honest, he would smash them on these pitches.
 
Try to get him to hit the ball in the air or see if you can swing the ball so he nicks it.
 
His weakness is Full-Toss ..Simple..
He got out many times on a rank full-toss as he gets greedy and tries to smash it without worrying about gaps
 
Kohli avg mid 30s (??)against Pak and SA so like every other batsman he is also not invincible against quality bowling, but the big question is do these pitches give any chance to bowlers
 
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Does Kohli have a weakness Pakistan can exploit?

Asif would make Kohli his bunny outside SC like he did with KP but none of these bowlers will pose a threat to him on these wickets


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Make India bat first seems a good ploy. He can score but for some reason he is just invincible chasing.
 
Kohli is very good batting first but he is very very good when chasing is a score.

So our best bet is to field first and hope for the best
 
Asif would make Kohli his bunny outside SC like he did with KP but none of these bowlers will pose a threat to him on these wickets


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kohli is already junaid's bunny. bringing asif would be like bringing undertaker to a beat up a 12 year old kid.
 
Hes a quality bat, but like all players starting your innings can b a tricky period for anyone so i reckon thats the time to target him, if he gets in then good luck
 
Does Kohli have a weakness Pakistan can exploit?

Don't know what the fuss is all about kohli against Pak hasn't been exceptional, he will fail tomorrow
 
honesly speaking , the way his bat comes from 2nd slip i believe the bowler who can take ball away from him is a potent threat . it may be said that im suggesting inclusion of Talha , but who do we drop out ?? its certain that india would be playing mishra in next game , so we have to have maximum no of left handers in team but with uncertain sharjeel we are not sure if he ll last till spinners come , fawad should be in the team purely on grounds of being a left hander , so in my opinion drop sharjeel include fawad in his place and talha in place of Anwar ,, i wish afridi was injured :( . simple logic pitch the ball up, swing it away and pray that kohli nicks it :P:P:P
against India you should be playing least no of spinners , but alas the ever presetn afridi wont be dropped :( send him to open plz and get him done
 
Yorker to the head


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honesly speaking , the way his bat comes from 2nd slip i believe the bowler who can take ball away from him is a potent threat . it may be said that im suggesting inclusion of Talha , but who do we drop out ?? its certain that india would be playing mishra in next game , so we have to have maximum no of left handers in team but with uncertain sharjeel we are not sure if he ll last till spinners come , fawad should be in the team purely on grounds of being a left hander , so in my opinion drop sharjeel include fawad in his place and talha in place of Anwar ,, i wish afridi was injured :( . simple logic pitch the ball up, swing it away and pray that kohli nicks it :P:P:P
against India you should be playing least no of spinners , but alas the ever presetn afridi wont be dropped :( send him to open plz and get him done

Oh you still believe the hype.

Mendis destroyed India today.

The Indian middle order (for this Asia Cup) is the weakest we have had in a decade.

Get your spinners and rip apart our batting hacks.
 
left arm over swinging in or away like junaid owned him amir would have too lets be honest.....if amir does come back he would take kohli to the cleaners.
 
Suggest ways/plans to get Kohli out

Oh you still believe the hype.



Mendis destroyed India today.



The Indian middle order (for this Asia Cup) is the weakest we have had in a decade.



Get your spinners and rip apart our batting hacks.


1 man will destroy gul, afridi and bhatti/anwar. They themselves will concede probs 200... You 'hacks' are still :vivs to us :kohli


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Keep it short, make him pull. He can play good length/full length all day long with those back foot drives


Good length is called good for a reason and i have not seen a player who can easily play good length ball.The ball you are talking about is short ball.
 
not sure why some people think kohli is vulnerable to spin just because mendis got him out in the last game.
 
If ajmal can bowl him a beauty like mendis did he will get out.
But we won't need that, he will be out to our pacers :yk:junaid
Seriously speaking it will take a peach to dismiss him and I hope we produce it
 
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