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Suggest ways/plans to get Virat Kohli out

"Suggest ways"......oh dear, you're making him out to be some kind of alien or supernatural. He's just another player...
 
Steve Waugh on Rahul Dravid:- "Try to get him out in the first 15 minutes, if you can't then try to take the remaining wickets".

Opposition bowlers can apply this one to get rid of kohli.
 
Let Rohit Sharma make a 200....he himself will run Kohli out :inzi

Try to Patch up Kohli and Anushka and sponsor a fully paid trip to her to watch the game :shehzad

or since Indian batsmen are perceived to be Selfish give Kohli 99 runs very quickly and then try to put pressure on him to see if he throws his wicket away with tension to reach the milestone :srt
 
Ab Fan said:
Steve Waugh on Rahul Dravid:- "Try to get him out in the first 15 minutes, if you can't then try to take the remaining wickets".

Opposition bowlers can apply this one to get rid of kohli.
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Dravid was the best batsman India ever produced..
 
Can't believe there is a thread for this :))

I hope Kohli doesn't stumble on PP and finds this thread, then he'll know our plans and will counterattack :kohli
 
Syed1 said:
Dravid was the best batsman India ever produced..
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Every Pakistani jealous of Tendulkar's achievements tells himself that, it is a way of coping with the stomach bugs The Little Master has given people on this side of the border for 20+ years.
 
Mamoon said:
Every Pakistani jealous of Tendulkar's achievements tells himself that, it is a way of coping with the stomach bugs The Little Master has given people on this side of the border for 20+ years.
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Exactly my thoughts.

Dravid is used by many as a tool to fight the sachination.
 
Mamoon said:
Every Pakistani jealous of Tendulkar's achievements tells himself that, it is a way of coping with the stomach bugs The Little Master has given people on this side of the border for 20+ years.
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that's not completely true. Dravid fared against Pakistani bowling attack better than Sachin. That might be the reason. Also Dravid was a better overseas player which earns him more respect.
 
Mamoon said:
Every Pakistani jealous of Tendulkar's achievements tells himself that, it is a way of coping with the stomach bugs The Little Master has given people on this side of the border for 20+ years.
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that's not completely true. Dravid fared against Pakistani bowling attack better than Sachin. That might be the reason. Also Dravid was a better overseas player which earns him more respect.
 
Easy, Kidnap Kohli, replace him with Shehzad without anyone knowing about it. And then you wont even have to get him out to win :kohli :shehzad
 
This is how you contain Virat Kohli

Be nice to him.

Kohli has been a near unstoppable force in cricket for a good fair few years now and people keep pondering on how to find a weakness.

One thought I have had was after watching New Zealand yesterday and then thinking about why Kohli is particularly prolific against teams like Pakistan and Australia.

And the answer (or atleast part of it) I believe is the pressure scenarios, opposing teams sledging/getting excited. Kohli likes a battle and relishes when things get heated up. Against NZ for example yesterday, the players were playing with smiles on their faces and NZ especially don't have a tendency to get excited and stay calm and I think that almost deters Kohli in some ways (even he gave a smile after an incident yesterday).

This is what I think all teams.should do against Kohli. Be friendly with him, don't get excited on the pitch and maintain a very calm, almost chilled out demeanour. Not sure what others think is the way to go?
 
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nice plan sallu bhai..:))

I don't think that's the case. The key was the amount of turn happening there. Kohli has improved his game against fast bowlers but he finds hard time scoring against spin early.
 
Partially right,the other side of the truth MRSN has mentioned already,Indians are terrible against spin.
 
Ofcourse I'm not saying this will turn him from a run scoring machine to Rahat Ali with the bat but what I was trying to say was behaviour towards Kohli is slightly more important than the average batsman because it has an effect on his performance
 
Nah, target him on off stump or just outside off stump early in his innings, that is your best bet or hope for some help from the pitch because on a flat pitch he will just score runs against you.
 
How do you contain Hafeej and Shehjad?

Regards,

Bangladeshi fans.
 
He was the only one who looked confident on that pitch playing proper shots, just needed a partnership with Dhoni there. Got out for 23 at the wrong juncture, I had shutdown my tv set after that as I knew the result :facepalm
 
Kohli at least scored some runs.

The rest of us crumble with or without sledging.
 
Varun said:
Kohli at least scored some runs.

The rest of us crumble with or without sledging.
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Felt like watching India of 90's when only Sachin middles the ball, once he's gone rest just collapse.

Pandya and Jadeja are total hacks with the bat.
 
Lol.

He's Kohli, not Bradman. There are a few weaknesses that bowlers have exploited already. A good start would be to bowl at a fifth or sixth stump line and try to move the ball away from his outside edge. Will eventually nick it.
 
[MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] you sound like someone who has taken 800-900 international wickets.If what you suggest were so easy then Virat would be some galli mohalla batsman from Karachi like your Manzoors and Maqsoods.
 
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[MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] you sound like someone who has taken 800-900 international wickets.If what you suggest were so easy then Virat would be some galli mohalla batsman from Karachi like your Manzoors and Maqsoods.
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And you sound like someone who didn't watch Kohli bat in England or against any decent bowler on pitches with something in it for the bowlers.
 
*sallu* said:
Be nice to him.

Kohli has been a near unstoppable force in cricket for a good fair few years now and people keep pondering on how to find a weakness.

One thought I have had was after watching New Zealand yesterday and then thinking about why Kohli is particularly prolific against teams like Pakistan and Australia.

And the answer (or atleast part of it) I believe is the pressure scenarios, opposing teams sledging/getting excited. Kohli likes a battle and relishes when things get heated up. Against NZ for example yesterday, the players were playing with smiles on their faces and NZ especially don't have a tendency to get excited and stay calm and I think that almost deters Kohli in some ways (even he gave a smile after an incident yesterday).

This is what I think all teams.should do against Kohli. Be friendly with him, don't get excited on the pitch and maintain a very calm, almost chilled out demeanour. Not sure what others think is the way to go?
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Lool. Good idea. Perhaps the Pakistan players can also give him valentines cards and send him bday invitations.. [emoji8]


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Titan of Technique said:
[MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] you sound like someone who has taken 800-900 international wickets.If what you suggest were so easy then Virat would be some galli mohalla batsman from Karachi like your Manzoors and Maqsoods.
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It's all relative. No one is saying Kohli is perfect and equally just being nice to him won't do jack. But as professional cricketers, the mental and physical aspects of the game should be taken into account. Yes there should be bowling plans and those can be discussed in a separate thread but to compliment that my point was you should avoid getting in his face and intensifying the game because history has shown that only has a further positive effect on him. So part of a bigger plan.

Ask Shane Warne the importance of mind games and attitude to getting wickets/containing batsmen.
 
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Lool. Good idea. Perhaps the Pakistan players can also give him valentines cards and send him bday invitations.. [emoji8]


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It's real genius if you ask me. I suggest flowers and chocolates as well.
 
[MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] now you sound like someone who does not watch enough cricket and forms opinion on hearsay and bias :amla
Kohli averages 45+ in both ODIs and T20s vs Pakistan.So unless you mean that Pakistan doesn't have one decent bowler or BCCI conspired its way to prepare flat pitches for Kohli in India-Pak matches..... :srini Even your legend Wasim said Kohli is a different player than what he was in England.Your opinion surely holds more weight than his :sanga
 
Titan of Technique said:
[MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] now you sound like someone who does not watch enough cricket and forms opinion on hearsay and bias :amla
Kohli averages 45+ in both ODIs and T20s vs Pakistan.So unless you mean that Pakistan doesn't have one decent bowler or BCCI conspired its way to prepare flat pitches for Kohli in India-Pak matches..... :srini Even your legend Wasim said Kohli is a different player than what he was in England.Your opinion surely holds more weight than his :sanga
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Firstly, you seem to be under the false impression that I give a rat's tail about what you think of me.

Secondly, there is no doubt that Kohli is a very fine player but to pretend like there are no weaknesses in his game and that being nice to him is the only way to keep him quiet is false.
 
There's nothing special about Kohli he wilts under pressure we've already seen his poor technique in the last T20 match. A technically sound batsman would have won the match for India on those turning pitches but he failed miserably. Don't rate him highly at all.
 
Bilal7 said:
Firstly, you seem to be under the false impression that I give a rat's tail about what you think of me.

Secondly, there is no doubt that Kohli is a very fine player but to pretend like there are no weaknesses in his game and that being nice to him is the only way to keep him quiet is false.
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Read post properly and don't make assumptions. Nowhere did I mention that is the ONLY thing you should be doing. It's one facet where you should work on though because clearly when intensity levels pick up Kohli is at his best. If you execute your bowling plans and at the same are able to not get in his face I think you give yourself a better chance
 
He should be attacked from the word go. He's lucky there's no asif at the other end else his career would be finished after facing a genuine swing bowler like him.
 
Win the toss and field first. That's how you beat Kohli. His average is something ridiculous like 80 when chasing, and since it's a late game with dew that'll be the only way to actually win. If Pak lose the toss, they've more or less lost the game.

If that doesn't happen then give Amir the ball and just hope he can produce some magic, otherwise it's curtains
 
*sallu* said:
Read post properly and don't make assumptions. Nowhere did I mention that is the ONLY thing you should be doing. It's one facet where you should work on though because clearly when intensity levels pick up Kohli is at his best. If you execute your bowling plans and at the same are able to not get in his face I think you give yourself a better chance
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I did read it properly. The first line of your opening post is "Be nice to him". That is ridiculous. Kohli has quite a few weaknesses that bowlers can exploit without being nice to him.
 
We HAVE to bowl first if we win the toss.

If we do lose the toss and go out to bat first anything below 180 and India will chase it down without breaking a sweat.
 
LegendAli said:
We HAVE to bowl first if we win the toss.

If we do lose the toss and go out to bat first anything below 180 and India will chase it down without breaking a sweat.
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The way the pitches (minus nagpur) have behaved, 180 might not be enough.
 
Kohli did struggle against Amir's inswinger. He got lucky with an lbw shout and edged one..It's just about keeping an attacking field placement for him. MAKE SURE AMIR BOWLS TO KOHLI BEFORE HE SETTLES IN. Don't want Wahab or Irfan to make him comfortable on the crease before he faces Amir
 
Madplayer said:
The way the pitches (minus nagpur) have behaved, 180 might not be enough.
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We're Pakistan, your statement is very true for every team except Pakistan, In sha allah we're coming for the kill big time tomorrow.
 
Ball him too many gem of deliveries and hope 1 would get better of him along the line.


Asghar on a square turner could do what Santner did to him.


Great player Kohli. Respect.
 
His technique is more compact now but yet to be tested with away swingers. The white kookaburra doesn't last long enough to test your technique.

In Bangladesh, when Amir came around the wicket and took the ball away, he did look vulnerable and was reaching away from his body.

Either away swing or extra bounce at 5th stump but his deficiencies are nothing like they were in England.

His stance is more upright now and plays the ball a lot later and if the ball is moving he looks to guide it rather than use the full bat flow. Just playing with softer hands and more side-on.

And this is the difference between the coaches in India compared to Pakistan. He of course is a mental genius and would've rectified his deficiencies sooner than later but knowledgeable coaches working with you certainly helps.
 
ChachaCricket said:
His technique is more compact now but yet to be tested with away swingers. The white kookaburra doesn't last long enough to test your technique.

In Bangladesh, when Amir came around the wicket and took the ball away, he did look vulnerable and was reaching away from his body.

Either away swing or extra bounce at 5th stump but his deficiencies are nothing like they were in England.

His stance is more upright now and plays the ball a lot later and if the ball is moving he looks to guide it rather than use the full bat flow. Just playing with softer hands and more side-on.

And this is the difference between the coaches in India compared to Pakistan. He of course is a mental genius and would've rectified his deficiencies sooner than later but knowledgeable coaches working with you certainly helps.
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The head and feet are more aligned now. The legs follow as soon as he leads to gauge the ball whereas previously quite often his head would lead but the legs stayed crease bound for an instant longer which made all the difference and left a gap between bat and ball. Also made him chase balls which should've been left alone.
 
ChachaCricket said:
His technique is more compact now but yet to be tested with away swingers. The white kookaburra doesn't last long enough to test your technique.

In Bangladesh, when Amir came around the wicket and took the ball away, he did look vulnerable and was reaching away from his body.

Either away swing or extra bounce at 5th stump but his deficiencies are nothing like they were in England.

His stance is more upright now and plays the ball a lot later and if the ball is moving he looks to guide it rather than use the full bat flow. Just playing with softer hands and more side-on.

And this is the difference between the coaches in India compared to Pakistan. He of course is a mental genius and would've rectified his deficiencies sooner than later but knowledgeable coaches working with you certainly helps.
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And in Pakistan Waqar can't even read the pitch.
 
He struggles against the ball that swings away on off stump. You've got to swing it away close to off stump and cramp him for a caught behind; slips will help a lot as well. He struggles against some nice bounce though.
 
He scores of pretty much every ball. If the ball doesn't swing then your not getting him.

Only Anderson has had the wood over him
 
Captains needs to understand that Kohli is not going to risk the aerial route therefore if chances are going to be created they have to be forced.

On current form, it looks as if he can dissect any field but every great batsman has weakness which can be exploited and favourite areas they like to target. You look to close those gaps and force him to play elsewhere.

This is how Australia worked over Williamson who gets really deep in the crease to give himself more time against the short ball. What do Australia do? They started bowling full and straight and set really straight fields covering the region from cover to midwicket. You can't pull or square cut full balls which leaves over the top as the only option. Williamson who isn't a power hitter risks getting caught every time he tries to hit over the top. Once, twice, thrice, the Aussies knew he's gonna mistime one and that's all they needed. Williamson didn't adjust by coming out of the crease instead tried to dissect the field. This is where they won the battle.

For Kohli it's the point to cover region, create a ring in that region and bowl full at the 7th stump line consistently. If he dissects once or twice then hats off to him but how many times is he going to do it. Also by doing so, he risks edging one. It becomes a test of temperament. Now he will either leave the ball or shuffle to rotate the strike or target mid-on and midwicket region. This is where the bowler and captain is in control now.

They can cut off the midwicket-midon angle by putting two fielders there and closing the gap between them, deep fine leg and square leg for protection. Now not only does he have to play across the line he has to hit over the top as well.

It's all about limiting his option and forcing the batsmen to change their natural scoring areas. If the batsman adjusts and does well then you have to counter again. Cricket is as much a mental game as physical.

When two great teams play each other, they're often led by great minds and if the viewer can see the mental battles going on, the game becomes that much more enthralling.
 
ChachaCricket said:
For Kohli it's the point to cover region, create a ring in that region and bowl full at the 7th stump line consistently. If he dissects once or twice then hats off to him but how many times is he going to do it. Also by doing so, he risks edging one. It becomes a test of temperament. Now he will either leave the ball or shuffle to rotate the strike or target mid-on and midwicket region. This is where the bowler and captain is in control now.

They can cut off the midwicket-midon angle by putting two fielders there and closing the gap between them, deep fine leg and square leg for protection. Now not only does he have to play across the line he has to hit over the top as well.

It's all about limiting his option and forcing the batsmen to change their natural scoring areas. If the batsman adjusts and does well then you have to counter again. Cricket is as much a mental game as physical.

When two great teams play each other, they're often led by great minds and if the viewer can see the mental battles going on, the game becomes that much more enthralling.
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Seems like a good strategy, Will it work on Steven Smith too particularly in test cricket?

He seems like a run machine at the moment.
 
The strategy to neutralize Virat Kohli

Well based on what i have seen if you cannot get him out in the first 10-12 deliveries, then you need to minimize his impact.

Sure, when he comes to the crease early, you go all out to get his wicket, bowl to him on off stump or outside, aim to get him caught behind or caught at first slip but he is a master at playing with a straight bat and defending the ball for a quick single. Or you can bring the ball back in aiming to get him LBW after moving the ball away from him, bottomline is if you cannot get him out in the first 10-12 deliveries then you know he is not going to get out.

What to do if you cannot get Kohli out? Keep things simple, accept the fact he is too good and is not going to get out. Give him the single and ruthlessly target all the other 10 batsmen the likes of Sharma, Dhawan, Raina, Yuvraj are so vulnerable. Dhoni is the only guy who is solid but if he comes to the wicket in a situation where 50-60 runs are needed with 5-6 wickets in hand then he with Kohli will take the team home.

The point i am making is that the opposition needs to understand what is the right time to be aggressive against Kohli and when to be defensive, they have to keep him off strike, the fielders have to be sharp and prevent him from taking two's, make the other batsmen struggle more.

Kohli is only human, if quick wickets keep falling at the other end and if Dhoni also falls, he out of frustration and the pressure of the match situation is going to make a mistake eventually.

On these wickets and in the usual form he is in, this is the only strategy i think the opposition needs to adopt against him. Sri Lanka did it in the 2014 T20 WC final, i think it is a template all other teams need to follow.
 
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Never, and I say never, ask India to chase in limited overs with Kohli in the team..That's how you can neutralise Kohli.
 
Well you cant really unless you have a batsman of that class on your side, like a Viv, Lara, Hafeez, Sobers or Manzoor.
 
Ab Fan said:
Never, and I say never, ask India to chase in limited overs with Kohli in the team..That's how you can neutralise Kohli.
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++ This

It is the only tried and test successful formula. Use it guys.
 
If you win the toss against India always bat first just to neutralize the Kholi factor

I'd odi and t20 game is based purely on knowing how to hunt down a total
 
No way. There is only 0.001% chance that he may make a mistake. Even if you make him bat with the tail, or with 11 pieces of wood, he will still win it more often than not.
 
Don't get Rohit out, he'll make sure to run kohli out, but then he will end up scoring a double ton :sachin
 
India have lost in only 4 games winning 15, while chasing in which Kohli batted, (the latest was after 2 years on an aberration of a pitch against the Kiwis)
While batting first India's record is 12 wins 8 losses, batting second its 17 wins and 5 losses in Kohli's presence.

Teacher, "What do you wanna do when you grow up"

Virat Kohli: "Chase ":D
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Kohli while setting a target ain't all that great.

So make India bat first.

Job done.
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Kohli in the first innings is still perfectly good. He averages 36 @ SR of 133 in the first innings, which are pretty impressive stats in t20.

It's just not as good as his 2nd innings record, where he basically turns into a Super Saiyan. Average of 92 @ SR of 132 Insane

And he averages 122.8 in successful chases.
 
The opposition can only plan around things in their control. Bowling first or batting first should not be the issue. The issue is what to do for the first 12 deliveries that Kohli is in at the crease, what to do if he is still batting after his first 12 deliveries have gone by.

Understand when to attack him to get him out and understand when it is wise to be defensive, give him the single and target the other batsman ruthlessly, keep him at the non strikers end. Sri lanka adopted a master full strategy in the 2014 T20 WC final bowling wide outside offstump yorkers with fielders placed on the boundry on the off side and going after the other batsman. This is the only way to deal with Kohli in the form of his life.
 
He is tremendous talent , finds gaps easily . I think its important to bring in a few a fielders and try and stop rotation of strike , and hope he plays a bad shot.
 
He is too good for the current set of bowlers he has faced, especially while chasing. A world class ODI bowler can stop him. Currently there is only world class ODI bowler and that is Mitchell Starc, and he hasn't been tested against him yet while chasing, in the current times. He also hasn't been tested against Mustafizur in T20Is, while chasing. Him vs Amir in ODIs would also be interesting.
 
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