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Sushant Singh Rajput: Bollywood star dies at 34

I am disappointed by no condolence message by dhoni of all people as of yet. This is the guy who portrayed you in a film which became a mega blockbuster and he did an amazing job in doing so.

For all the praise Dhoni gets, I have always believed he is a very cold individual. V V S Laxman complained Dhoni never respected him as a senior player and part of the reason why he retired the way he did was due to the lack of support and respect from Dhoni where he wouldn't even return phonecalls

Dhoni hasn't tweeted anything since February 14 - not sure what's up.

In any case, why should be put out something on Twitter - the condolences can be made in private.

Also, I just read VVS Laxman's autobiography just last week and he is very complementary about Dhoni and the entire episode around his retirement. I suggest you don't go by media reports and give it a read to get the message out of the horse's mouth too.
 
Most of the indians only care about masala and gossip. the obituaries are mostly by virtue signalling muppets. Indians don't really care when humans die.

So true.

More than celebrities, many of whom actually know each other in person, through parties and events etc, its so lame seeing regular people with these long posts about mental health and stuff.

Also do you realize how the middle class suddenly gets an excuse to say money and fame cannot buy happiness every single time a celebrity dies. As if being broke and sharing a 2 bhk with 6 people guarantees happiness.
 
One of my friends committed a suicide at the age of 17. His death memories still haunt me. He needed some money from his parents for buying some stuff and his parents were out for some social event. When they reached home, his body was hanging off the fan. He was 2 years older than me at that time.

His parents had to sell their house and had to live in another neighborhood. The crazy thing is, before that fateful day we played cricket together in the evening and the next day I had to hear this sad news. I was so shocked to see him do that. He was a very chilled and cool headed guy but again people with a sensitive soul hides a lot of pain. Like everyone else, he was a big fan of watching bollywood movies and to be honest in 80s and 90s, indian movies were really good. Storyline and music. Those suicide acts depicted in the movies. Teenagers are exposed to all kinds of things.

I went through a serious bouth of depression where I had to lose touch with reality. I lived in pain for the next 16 years due to depression and I used to get a lot of sucidal ideations.

I am not the right person to talk about mental health it is a very slippery slope topic some people say it is due to genetics or chemical imbalance, I would say that "it is just being a normal/sane person among crazies." That's how I would describe mental health and depression. Sane people are known as mental nutcases in our modern world.

RIP.
 
One of my friends committed a suicide at the age of 17. His death memories still haunt me. He needed some money from his parents for buying some stuff and his parents were out for some social event. When they reached home, his body was hanging off the fan. He was 2 years older than me at that time.

His parents had to sell their house and had to live in another neighborhood. The crazy thing is, before that fateful day we played cricket together in the evening and the next day I had to hear this sad news. I was so shocked to see him do that. He was a very chilled and cool headed guy but again people with a sensitive soul hides a lot of pain. Like everyone else, he was a big fan of watching bollywood movies and to be honest in 80s and 90s, indian movies were really good. Storyline and music. Those suicide acts depicted in the movies. Teenagers are exposed to all kinds of things.

I went through a serious bouth of depression where I had to lose touch with reality. I lived in pain for the next 16 years due to depression and I used to get a lot of sucidal ideations.

I am not the right person to talk about mental health it is a very slippery slope topic some people say it is due to genetics or chemical imbalance, I would say that "it is just being a normal/sane person among crazies." That's how I would describe mental health and depression. Sane people are known as mental nutcases in our modern world.

RIP.

Tyson Fury is the right guy to talk too. Even now when he is back from the lowest of lows and now the HW Champion of the World with a big fat bank account. He claims he is now better equipped and able to handle his low moments and his only piece of advice to people who feel very low, sad, depressed is to please be open about it with people regardless of the social stigma and to see qualified doctors, medical professionals with immediate effect.

Didn't Deepika Padukone also deal with it?
 
Just rewatched MS Dhoni the Untold Story. Going to rewatch PK tomorrow.

I’m incredibly saddened right now.
 
RIP


Sarfaraz dhoka deh gaya :/

Depression is a crazy disease a true silent killer
 
As a guy, only slightly younger than SSR, this death feels so personal.

He seemed to have pretty much all that a young teenager guy aspires of.

It's a tough world out there which can break anyone.

No celebrity death since Chester Bennington from Linkin Park has shaken me this much honestly.
 
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The Maharashtra Cyber, a nodal agency established by the Maharashtra government for the investigation of cyber crime and maintenance of cyber security, has issued a stern warning to those circulating ‘disturbing’ photos of Sushant Singh Rajput. The 34-year-old actor died by suicide on Sunday.

In a series of tweets shared on its official Twitter handle, the Maharashtra Cyber said that the circulation of such pictures was not only ‘in bad taste’ but also illegal. “A disturbing trend has been observed on Social Media platforms by Maharashtra Cyber that pictures of deceased actor Shri. Sushant Singh Rajput are being circulated, which are disturbing and in bad taste,” the agency said.

“It is emphasised that circulation of such pictures is against legal guidelines and court directions, and are liable to invite legal action,” another tweet read. A final tweet added that the pictures doing the rounds online must be deleted: “Maharashtra Cyber exhorts and directs all netizens to refrain from circulating the aforesaid pictures. The pictures already circulated should be deleted henceforth.”

DCP Pranay Ashok, spokesperson of the Mumbai Police, said in a statement that Sushant died by suicide and a police investigation is on. No suicide note was found, he said. “The last rites will be performed after his father and other family members arrive in Mumbai from Patna tomorrow,” the actor’s spokesperson told PTI on Sunday.

Sushant acted in shows such as Kis Desh Mein Hai Mera Dil and Pavitra Rishta before making his Bollywood debut in 2013. He had acted in films such as Kai Po Che!, Detective Byomkesh Bakshy, MS Dhoni: The Untold Story and Chhichhore.

Sushant’s last film will be the romantic drama Dil Bechara, which marks casting director Mukesh Chhabra’s directorial debut. The unreleased film is an official adaptation of John Green’s bestselling novel The Fault In Our Stars.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/boll...ingh-rajput/story-E3OlqbStKcc7PTsVJlk9DL.html
 
Actor Sushant Singh Rajput’s death should be investigated by the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI), Jan Adhikar Party chief Pappu Yadav demanded on Monday.

Sushant Singh Rajput, who dropped out of an engineering college to pursue a career in Bollywood and delivered several hit films over the past decade, was found dead in his apartment in Mumbai on Sunday. He was 34.

Dattatreya Bargude, an assistant commissioner of Mumbai Police, confirmed the actor’s death and said that no “note” was found at his residence.

“I cannot imagine how this happened. I request the government to launch a CBI inquiry. I think there is a deep conspiracy behind his death. Sushant cannot commit suicide,” Pappu Yadav told reporters.

“I want a CBI inquiry in the matter. Sushant was a workaholic and good man, not the kind of person that would commit suicide. He rose from the bottom. Made Bihar proud. Now the state of Bihar is in mourning,” he added.

Yadav also claimed that it could be a case of homicide.

Rajput was born in Bihar’s capital of Patna and was the youngest of five children of a government employee. He completed his schooling in Delhi before securing a seat in an engineering college in the Capital in 2003.

He dropped out of the course to pursue acting professionally three years later and joined the Barry John Acting School.

The actor landed his first role in the Hindi serial, Kis Desh Mein Hai Meraa Dil, in 2008 but gained popularity the next year with his character in the popular soap, Pavitra Rishta.

He debuted in Bollywood in 2013 with the movie Kai Po Che!, adapted from a novel by Chetan Bhagat but became a household name with the success of MS Dhoni: The Untold Story, a biopic on the World Cup-winning Indian cricket captain, in 2016.

Sushant Singh Rajput was last seen in Nitesh Tiwari’s Chhichhore in 2019 and also acted in the thriller Drive that was released on Netflix the same year.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...put-s-death/story-znKqDhs3VF0d1l1LqqMJnM.html
 
I know this has shocked many people as from the outset it looked like he was a young high flying actor on his way to a brilliant career. However, in reality that wasn't the case. Firstly, being from outside of the film fraternity he had to struggle a lot to get where he got to. He was mocked by Alia Bhatt and Karan for being a 'TV actor'. I remember reading about his journey and how he struggled in the beginning as people kept labeling him a 'tv actor'.

Recently, work had been hard to come by for him as there was this entire campaign to malign him. He faced sexual harassment allegations. His reputation was taking a hit with regards to his antics at parties and his attitude to work. A couple of his recent movies had been shelved and it appeared as though he wasn't getting much work. This may have led to depression and the eventual suicide.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I knew the pain you were going through. I knew the story of the people that let you down so bad that you would weep on my shoulder. I wish Iwas around the last 6 months. I wish you had reached out to me. What happened to you was their Karma. Not yours. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SushantSinghRajput?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SushantSinghRajput</a></p>— Shekhar Kapur (@shekharkapur) <a href="https://twitter.com/shekharkapur/status/1272424331893563393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Mumbai: Filmmaker Shekhar Kapur on Monday condoled Sushant Singh Rajput's untimely demise and said that he was aware of the late actor's problems.

He also wished that he could have been there for Sushant or if only the actor would have reached out to him. He tweeted, "I knew the pain you were going through. I knew the story of the people that let you down so bad that you would weep on my shoulder. I wish I was around the last 6 months. I wish you had reached out to me. What happened to you was their Karma. Not yours. (sic)."

Renowned hairstylist Sapna Bhavnani had also on Sunday revealed that Sushant was going through a tough phase of his life since the past few years and yet no one from the film industry stood by his side.

"It’s no secret Sushant was going through very tough times for the last few years. No one in the industry stood up for him nor did they lend a helping hand. To tweet today is the biggest display of how shallow the industry really is. No one here is your friend. RIP (sic)," she wrote.

Film producer Nikhil Dwivedi on Sunday called out the film industry's "hypocrisy" and said that people did not keep in touch in Sushant because of a low phase in his career. He wrote, "At times our movie industry's hypocrisy gets to me. High &mighty announcing they shud ve kept in touch wth Sushant..Cmon u didn't! &thts coz his career dipped. So ****! R u in touch with Imran Khan, Abhay Deol &others? No! But u were, whn they were doing well (sic)."

Sushant passed away on Sunday morning at his Bandra residence from where his body was taken to the RN Cooper hospital. Meanwhile, his family has arrived in Mumbai from Patna to carry out the actor's final rites in the city.

https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com...writes-shekhar-kapur/articleshow/76385700.cms
 
A great actor whose story was quite inspirational. He had a lot more to achieve. It's really a sad year! RIP Sushant!

Thanks for the memories- Koi Po Che, Peekay, MS Dhoni- Biopic , Kedarnath, Chichore!
 
A great actor whose story was quite inspirational. He had a lot more to achieve. It's really a sad year! RIP Sushant!

Thanks for the memories- Koi Po Che, Peekay, MS Dhoni- Biopic , Kedarnath, Chichore!

You forgot Pavitra Rishta.
 
I am disappointed by no condolence message by dhoni of all people as of yet. This is the guy who portrayed you in a film which became a mega blockbuster and he did an amazing job in doing so.

For all the praise Dhoni gets, I have always believed he is a very cold individual. V V S Laxman complained Dhoni never respected him as a senior player and part of the reason why he retired the way he did was due to the lack of support and respect from Dhoni where he wouldn't even return phonecalls

People with high sportsman spirit aren't supposed to be apathic and cold, regardless of their celebrity status. And I believe Dhoni has a high sportsman spirit.
 
I know this has shocked many people as from the outset it looked like he was a young high flying actor on his way to a brilliant career. However, in reality that wasn't the case. Firstly, being from outside of the film fraternity he had to struggle a lot to get where he got to. He was mocked by Alia Bhatt and Karan for being a 'TV actor'. I remember reading about his journey and how he struggled in the beginning as people kept labeling him a 'tv actor'.
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If you know Sapna Bhavnani (?) who is a hairstylist for celebrities and knows many actors personally, she actually posted stuff blaming the industry for having given Sushant a hard time and now acting sad...

As for being mocked for being a tv actor?
Far better to have worked your way up from being a tv actor than to enter through nepotism

Alia Bhat herself, along with half the actors/actresses of this generation - Sara Ali Khan, Varun Dhawan, Tiger Shroff and so on are proof of that
 
Thanks for the memories- Koi Po Che, Peekay, MS Dhoni- Biopic , Kedarnath, Chichore!

As much as his movies, he has acted in the scenes for some amazing songs ...

When I think of it, most days over the last 6-7 years, I have heard one song at least with him in it (and as such his face is one that appeared subconsciously in my mind on an almost daily basis)..

Chaar Kadam, Manjhaa, Ik vaari aja, Tere mere beech (a very unique duet by the 2 Chauhans, who have hardly sung together otherwise), Jaan Nisar are some of the notable ones
 
Anyways extremely sad and feel for his dad, who lost his wife many years back and now his son....

True. The sympathy should be for those he left behind, but not for him. Anyone committing suicide is selfish and a coward, who is passing his pain to the others he leaves behind. The last thing we need is giving sympathy to these people and driving other strugglers to suicide because they think the world will be kind to them after they die.
 
If you know Sapna Bhavnani (?) who is a hairstylist for celebrities and knows many actors personally, she actually posted stuff blaming the industry for having given Sushant a hard time and now acting sad...

As for being mocked for being a tv actor?
Far better to have worked your way up from being a tv actor than to enter through nepotism

Alia Bhat herself, along with half the actors/actresses of this generation - Sara Ali Khan, Varun Dhawan, Tiger Shroff and so on are proof of that

Other people in the industry who are completely from outside and non-filmi backgrounds like Arjun Rampal, John Abraham and co have also struggled and are fighting each day, their acting career prospects may no longer be promising but they diversified into other avenues by investing in restaurants, sports teams, production houses in order to keep busy and make sure that their lifestyle does not depend on receiving acting offers.

Varun Dhawan, Tiger Shroff, Alia Bhatt have delivered in the box office and have received acclaim for some of their acting performances. Unfair to blame them for this episode.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RIPSushantSinghRajput?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RIPSushantSinghRajput</a> &#55357;&#56911; <a href="https://t.co/gttlJHY3r3">pic.twitter.com/gttlJHY3r3</a></p>— Vivek Anand Oberoi (@vivekoberoi) <a href="https://twitter.com/vivekoberoi/status/1272580050542489601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Ayushman Khurana is another self made actor doing pretty well. Have been following him since his Roadies days. :inti
 
True. The sympathy should be for those he left behind, but not for him. Anyone committing suicide is selfish and a coward, who is passing his pain to the others he leaves behind. The last thing we need is giving sympathy to these people and driving other strugglers to suicide because they think the world will be kind to them after they die.

This stigma has to go brother.


That suicide is a thing of cowards, losers failed people is what drives more and more to conclude suicide to be the end point of them giving up on their struggles.
 
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This stigma has to go brother.


That suicide is a thing of cowards, losers failed people is what drives more and more to conclude suicide to be the end point of them giving up on their struggles.

Depression should not be stigmatised, but suicide should always be stigmatised, so that people are discouraged from taking this step.

Just like the glorification of fallen solders and the martyrdom of those fighting for religion/nation drives more people to put their life at risk. Take away the glory and don't make it an attractive option.
 
It is so unfair on someone like Alia Bhatt who is being blamed for Sushant suicide. Just read some of the comments on her twitter. So cruel on this girl.

And she has had nothing to do with him.

It is so dumb to blame the industry. Surely there is nepotism, but Sushant was getting good roles. If you look at his filmography he has had at least 1 film pr. year. His latest film Chhichhore made 215 crore in box office which was a big hit.

Look at Shah Rukh Khan he was a tv actor as well. Look at Auyshmann Khurrana he is one of the best actor right now. He made low budget films. There are so many actors who struggles.

He left nothing behind. People can only speculate. And tbh do you really think he committed suicide because of films? Often there are more to it.

Indian twitter user are the most toxic in the entire world.
 
Salman Khan has a lot to answer for. He has destroyed countless careers to keep himself relevant
 
True. The sympathy should be for those he left behind, but not for him. Anyone committing suicide is selfish and a coward, who is passing his pain to the others he leaves behind. The last thing we need is giving sympathy to these people and driving other strugglers to suicide because they think the world will be kind to them after they die.
C'mon I thought we moved past it already wth!?
 
And now, as per latest reports, Sushant's cousin brother's wife, Sudha Devi has passed away at his native, Purnia in Bihar. The report further stated that she couldn't bear the loss of the actor. She took her last breath when Sushant's funeral was being conducted in Mumbai. The report also stated that she had stopped eating after she got to know about Sushant's suicide.

Meanwhile, a lot of celebs took to their social media to mourn the demise of Sushant. Several others came forward and shared that Bollywood didn't support the 'Raabta' actor when he needed it the most.
 

This is a uncalled for rant Has it be even proven that he took his life because of not getting films?

Hes only been dead 2 mins and people are jumping on the bandwagon and pushing their own agendas At least show some respect for the deceased
 
Salman Khan has a lot to answer for. He has destroyed countless careers to keep himself relevant

Apparently he got into a fight with one of Salman Khan`s protege at a party and apparently Salman Khan called him up and threatened him that he will make sure he never gets any work in the industry. Salman Khan has a lot of power in Bollywood. One thing that i strongly dislike about this guy is that whenever there is a big case of casting couch, harrassment, suicide, depression cases in the film industry, the guy always goes missing and never even comments or contributes to the debate in any way shape or form.
 
What Vivek Oberai did was stupid and naive of the young man, but to destroy his career the way Salman did was ruthless. Just to make an example of him due to his personal ego.

Now there are reports about Salman pulling the plug on movies/deals with Sushant.

I heard somewhere that Salman also pulled the plug on Irfan Khan for a role in Dabangg.

Most recently and clearly, Salman pretty much ended Saif Ali Khan’s career by signing Race, and then turning it into a pathetic family movie due to his own terms and conditions.

Whilst the guy has only produced one decent movie in his life (Bajrangi Bhaijaan). He has still looted millions of dollars from the sheep awaam with his self centred, pointless masala roles.
 
What Vivek Oberai did was stupid and naive of the young man, but to destroy his career the way Salman did was ruthless. Just to make an example of him due to his personal ego.

Now there are reports about Salman pulling the plug on movies/deals with Sushant.

I heard somewhere that Salman also pulled the plug on Irfan Khan for a role in Dabangg.

Most recently and clearly, Salman pretty much ended Saif Ali Khan’s career by signing Race, and then turning it into a pathetic family movie due to his own terms and conditions.

Whilst the guy has only produced one decent movie in his life (Bajrangi Bhaijaan). He has still looted millions of dollars from the sheep awaam with his self centred, pointless masala roles.

Saif is himself product of nepotism(the biggest scam of national award for Hum tum due to his mother belonging to Congress), Salman didn't do anything to his career other than that who knows.

Also Vivek Oberoi's father was an actor as well, so it's not he had to do major struggle to get his first role.
 
Saif is himself product of nepotism(the biggest scam of national award for Hum tum due to his mother belonging to Congress), Salman didn't do anything to his career other than that who knows.

Also Vivek Oberoi's father was an actor as well, so it's not he had to do major struggle to get his first role.

Look my theory on Star kids is different. Some people may not like the fact that they have it all paved for them unlike the self made guys such as SRK and Akshay Kumar, but others believe that the weight of expectations with that pavement of opportunity is far greater. It is enough to crush you, and write you off far earlier than expected.

The other thing is, the Bollywood business runs on a connection between the star and the audience. That connection can last for decades, and it can grow stronger and stronger with time. Such is the case with Amitabh Bachan, Salman Khan, Amir Khan, Akshay and Shah Rukh. The audience who grew up watching them do not want them to ever leave really, and this is why these guys still make big bucks at the age of 60, portraying guys who have the athletic ability of a 25 year old man. Hence, the connection can continue through the heir of those screen icons, as they will remind the audience of the magic, nostalgia of their parents. I don’t think there is anything wrong with this, and it is up to the child now to continue with the legacy with hard work or end it through poor work.

The issue in Sushant’s case isn’t the opportunity or capturing the imagination such as Alia Bhatt or Varun Dhawan can afford to make happen. It was more to do with being an outsider to this community, and he struggled to connect with them. But I think the lad gave up too early. I believe Akshay Kumar went a decade or so in the same situation, he wasn’t half as talented as Sushant was when it came to using intellect and creativity. But Akshay was still riding along and doing what any young red blooded man would. He was enjoy the popularity, the attention, the fact that he was a desirable man to female attention. Eventually he broke through into the community when he married Twinkle, a daughter of the ‘group’, and that’s when his career just took off.

Sushant probably had a lot to offer for 2 more decades, he gave up a dream life which millions of young men have tried so hard to live, but have always failed to reach it.
 
Tbh depression is high among the general population because of social media like instagram and facebook. It can only be higher on celebrities because they are expected to always look and do fabolous things on social media and pressured to get more followers.

I am on the old school boat, I don't believe in social media, following or showing my life in public to people I barely even know, nor do I care about what others are doing either because that's how you get trapped. If you suffer from depression get out from social media isolate yourself from it and your mind will thank you.
 
Look my theory on Star kids is different. Some people may not like the fact that they have it all paved for them unlike the self made guys such as SRK and Akshay Kumar, but others believe that the weight of expectations with that pavement of opportunity is far greater. It is enough to crush you, and write you off far earlier than expected.

The other thing is, the Bollywood business runs on a connection between the star and the audience. That connection can last for decades, and it can grow stronger and stronger with time. Such is the case with Amitabh Bachan, Salman Khan, Amir Khan, Akshay and Shah Rukh. The audience who grew up watching them do not want them to ever leave really, and this is why these guys still make big bucks at the age of 60, portraying guys who have the athletic ability of a 25 year old man. Hence, the connection can continue through the heir of those screen icons, as they will remind the audience of the magic, nostalgia of their parents. I don’t think there is anything wrong with this, and it is up to the child now to continue with the legacy with hard work or end it through poor work.

The issue in Sushant’s case isn’t the opportunity or capturing the imagination such as Alia Bhatt or Varun Dhawan can afford to make happen. It was more to do with being an outsider to this community, and he struggled to connect with them. But I think the lad gave up too early. I believe Akshay Kumar went a decade or so in the same situation, he wasn’t half as talented as Sushant was when it came to using intellect and creativity. But Akshay was still riding along and doing what any young red blooded man would. He was enjoy the popularity, the attention, the fact that he was a desirable man to female attention. Eventually he broke through into the community when he married Twinkle, a daughter of the ‘group’, and that’s when his career just took off.

Sushant probably had a lot to offer for 2 more decades, he gave up a dream life which millions of young men have tried so hard to live, but have always failed to reach it.

John Abraham was not only an outsider but he also got in Salman Khan's bad books. But he still managed to create his own place and niche in Bollywood
 
John Abraham was not only an outsider but he also got in Salman Khan's bad books. But he still managed to create his own place and niche in Bollywood

Exactly, there is plenty of opportunity as long as you hang in there. Sushant was on the right track IMO, but maybe he believed he was well behind where he should have been up to that point. Also the lockdown, the prospects of Directors/producers making big cuts for another 2-3 years on production due to the economic crisis. Too much to think about, and time really ticks slow during quarantine.
 
Look my theory on Star kids is different. Some people may not like the fact that they have it all paved for them unlike the self made guys such as SRK and Akshay Kumar, but others believe that the weight of expectations with that pavement of opportunity is far greater. It is enough to crush you, and write you off far earlier than expected.

The other thing is, the Bollywood business runs on a connection between the star and the audience. That connection can last for decades, and it can grow stronger and stronger with time. Such is the case with Amitabh Bachan, Salman Khan, Amir Khan, Akshay and Shah Rukh. The audience who grew up watching them do not want them to ever leave really, and this is why these guys still make big bucks at the age of 60, portraying guys who have the athletic ability of a 25 year old man. Hence, the connection can continue through the heir of those screen icons, as they will remind the audience of the magic, nostalgia of their parents. I don’t think there is anything wrong with this, and it is up to the child now to continue with the legacy with hard work or end it through poor work.

The issue in Sushant’s case isn’t the opportunity or capturing the imagination such as Alia Bhatt or Varun Dhawan can afford to make happen. It was more to do with being an outsider to this community, and he struggled to connect with them. But I think the lad gave up too early. I believe Akshay Kumar went a decade or so in the same situation, he wasn’t half as talented as Sushant was when it came to using intellect and creativity. But Akshay was still riding along and doing what any young red blooded man would. He was enjoy the popularity, the attention, the fact that he was a desirable man to female attention. Eventually he broke through into the community when he married Twinkle, a daughter of the ‘group’, and that’s when his career just took off.

Sushant probably had a lot to offer for 2 more decades, he gave up a dream life which millions of young men have tried so hard to live, but have always failed to reach it.

I agree on everything but Akki is a very diff person, he knew his fan following and his calibre, he was very liked among my family even in 90s, his Khiladi films are iconic, his career might had boomed after marrying Twinkle but he was still top star, even after marrying Twinkle he was still in same "class", its only after cities were not the big earners like rural ones and multiplexes came up in tier 2 towns that Akki's actual fans who had loved him were now buying expensive tickets to watch his movies in these multiplexes. This is similar reason for Salman's success. Akki is mentally strong, he is only one who can ridicule Karan Johar,SRK and get away with it ease.

If It was upto Overseas Desis and Indian urban crowd SRK would still be a loverboy getting super hits.

Only Amir Khan,Amitabh Bachan have Pan Indian audience everyone else is divided between Urban and not so urban unlike before 1985 where a movie was usually hit across India.
 
John Abraham was not only an outsider but he also got in Salman Khan's bad books. But he still managed to create his own place and niche in Bollywood

John is very tough mentally, it's clear mental health is a thing and everyone should work on getting better.
He predicted the Indian Rupee would be 65 to one dollar when it was 50's and then predicted it would go to 75 and that's what happened in last 2-3 months.
He has also figured out his audience and that's why he is making such movies only now..
 
And now, as per latest reports, Sushant's cousin brother's wife, Sudha Devi has passed away at his native, Purnia in Bihar. The report further stated that she couldn't bear the loss of the actor. She took her last breath when Sushant's funeral was being conducted in Mumbai. The report also stated that she had stopped eating after she got to know about Sushant's suicide.

Oh no :(

Thoughts and prayers with their family who are going through horrific times
 
John is very tough mentally, it's clear mental health is a thing and everyone should work on getting better.
He predicted the Indian Rupee would be 65 to one dollar when it was 50's and then predicted it would go to 75 and that's what happened in last 2-3 months.
He has also figured out his audience and that's why he is making such movies only now..

Very tough to survive in Bollywood while being in Salman Khan's bad books. John was smart enough to focus on his biggest assets i.e. his physique and branding himself as an action hero due to which stuck to that genre. He has given some good performances as well here and there. Unlike Vivek Oberoi who has shamelessly tried to apologize to Salman in Public, John kept his head high and never stooped to those levels.
 
As much as his movies, he has acted in the scenes for some amazing songs ...

When I think of it, most days over the last 6-7 years, I have heard one song at least with him in it (and as such his face is one that appeared subconsciously in my mind on an almost daily basis)..

Chaar Kadam, Manjhaa, Ik vaari aja, Tere mere beech (a very unique duet by the 2 Chauhans, who have hardly sung together otherwise), Jaan Nisar are some of the notable ones


This one is also great
 
Very tough to survive in Bollywood while being in Salman Khan's bad books. John was smart enough to focus on his biggest assets i.e. his physique and branding himself as an action hero due to which stuck to that genre. He has given some good performances as well here and there. Unlike Vivek Oberoi who has shamelessly tried to apologize to Salman in Public, John kept his head high and never stooped to those levels.

You are right about Salman. Salman also tried to end Arijeet's career but couldn't succeed. :inti
 
Sushant's suicide is truly disturbing. He seemed like such a genuinely nice bloke who knew how to properly act. I was listening to his Dhoni movie song that day and watched the "video" for the first time and i was like this guy has a million dollar smile. Truly tragic.

Suicide is and should never be an option.
 
Varun Dhawan, Tiger Shroff, Alia Bhatt have delivered in the box office and have received acclaim for some of their acting performances. Unfair to blame them for this episode.


Of course I am not blaming them, I am just saying there is nothing to mock a tv actor joining Bollywood as opposed to those who got their first chances because of their parents.
The 3 you mentioned are successes in their own right, but if any of them mocked SSJ (as Alia Bhat apparently did), it was in poor taste
 
Sushant may have been the only decent man in bollywood, yet he killed himself.
It is not only sad, but frustrating. He came from nothing and was a genius in all aspects of life. A top ranked engineering student whom the Indian public could actually relate to.
Now we have to stuck to evergreen 55 year olds playing the role of 20 year olds in films
 
Sushant from all accounts seemed like a thinker and a deep personality with opinions on a number of things. He was too intellectual for the field he was in and may be mocked for it or maybe not. But such people end up looking for some recognition for their genius/talent and his interviews seemed to suggest that a bit. The galmour world is cruel and insecure that he wouldnt get it there ever. He seemed to be off his meds during the last few days from reports and all of this lockdown might have compounded the situation. Seems like a life lost in all this turbulence.
 
Mumbai: Amid an outpouring of grief, support and anger after actor Sushant Singh Rajput's death, the Maharashtra government has said it will look into allegations of professional rivalry along with his reported clinical depression in its investigations.

The 34-year-old rising star of Hindi films killed himself at his home in Mumbai's Bandra on Sunday and was cremated yesterday.

Maharashtra Home Minister Anil Deshmukh commented on Twitter on reports that he was depressed because of professional rivalry.

"While the post mortem report says the actor committed suicide by hanging himself, there are media reports that he allegedly suffered from clinical depression because of professional rivalry. Mumbai Police will probe this angle too," the minister tweeted.

No suicide note has been found from the actor's apartment. A post-mortem confirmed asphyxia due to hanging and foul play has been ruled out, according to the police.

Sushant Singh Rajput transitioned successfully from television to films and starred in big ticket films such as "Kai Po Che", "Shuddh Desi Romance", "PK", "Kedarnath" and "Sonchiriya". He was nominated for acting awards for his portrayal of former Indian skipper MS Dhoni in the 2016 biopic "MS Dhoni: The Untold Story". One of his most recent films, "Chhichhore", was widely appreciated.

The shocking death has roiled the film industry, which has been battling allegations of nepotism and cliquism. Many have been tweeting about alleged sidelining of the talented star, who quit his engineering course to pursue acting. There are unconfirmed reports about the actor being rebuffed by Bollywood's so-called big league.

Among those whose social media posts highlighted the actor's turmoil was that of acclaimed filmmaker Shekhar Kapur. "I knew the pain you were going through. I knew the story of the people that let you down so bad that you would weep on my shoulder. I wish I was around the last 6 months. I wish you had reached out to me. What happened to you was their Karma. Not yours," he tweeted.

Many have responded strongly to that post and more and more celebrities are coming out against what some of them have described as the "Bollywood privilege club".

Members of the actor's family had called for an investigation as they struggled to understand what pushed him over the edge.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/sus...ra-home-minister-2247028?pfrom=home-topscroll
 
Saif Ali Khan is angry about the film industry’s sudden outpouring of love for Sushant Singh Rajput after his death on Sunday. He feels that a day of silence would be more appropriate than the ‘hypocrisy’ of pretending to care.

In an interview with The Times of India, Saif called the news of Sushant’s death ‘just awful’, but hit out at those ‘talking rubbish’ in the wake of the tragedy. “There are so many people who’ve made comments so quickly. And it just seems to me that people are somewhere gaining some mileage from this poor fellow’s tragedy, you know, whether it’s to show compassion or to show interest or to show some political stance. So many people are talking rubbish in this nonstop kind of barrage on social media and it’s just embarrassing, really, I think,” he said.

“Out of respect for him, for Sushant’s tragedy, maybe a day of silence or introspection would be a little more becoming than this outpouring of love – an outpouring of love from people who obviously didn’t care about him and people who famously don’t care about anybody else,” he said.

Saif said that the film industry was famously competitive and the pretense of caring for Sushant was an ‘insult’ to him. “I mean, we don’t care about anybody. You know, it’s a very cutthroat line of work. But to pretend that you do care is like the ultimate hypocrisy and I think that’s an insult to the dead, you know, it’s an insult to the soul that’s gone,” he said.

The sudden display of love for Sushant is ‘a little much to digest’ for Saif, who admitted that though ‘nobody really cares in this town’, they want to come across as empathetic to their fans. He added that people writing lengthy social media posts are unlikely to show the same level of love and compassion in real life.

“We live in an age where people write 10 lines for you on Twitter and will walk past you on the street - won’t even touch you or shake your hand. You know, you get wished for your birthday, but people don’t actually call you. There’s no contact,” he said.

There has been talk of Sushant being failed by bigwigs of the film industry. Filmmaker Shekhar Kapur had tweeted after his demise: “I knew the pain you were going through. I knew the story of the people that let you down so bad that you would weep on my shoulder…” Kangana Ranaut shared an angry video, in which she said that the late actor was not given his due as he was an outsider, and was constantly told that he was ‘worthless’.

However, Saif does not completely agree with this. “People are failing people constantly. Everyone talking about him, even those saying who failed you or didn’t fail you is, I think, somewhat exploiting his name. To take any stand at the moment, apart from just sorrow, and just saying that I’m really sad that he had no way out except this - any other comment is somewhere manipulating the situation, I feel. You have come across this as an opportunity to take a shot at somebody, and you’re taking a shot,” he said.

When asked about Bollywood camps having an impact on an actor’s career, Saif said, “These are the wrong comments to make now. I mean, you can say, listen, it’s just really bad, what happened. It’s really sad that this is the only way he could see out. But to blame anybody or to you know, draw these camps out, this is pathetic. I think it’s a function of lockdown plus social media. And it’s sad that film people can’t think beyond films. We will all assume that this terrible thing happened to him because of his films. There is more to life. Maybe he was upset about other things in his life. Maybe it was a personal reason. Maybe it’s nothing to do with films. If you can’t see beyond that, you will put everything on that – the movies you do.”

Saif’s daughter Sara Ali Khan, who made her Bollywood debut opposite Sushant in Kedarnath, was shocked and ‘very, very, very upset’ by the news. “She liked him very much. She was quite impressed with certain aspects of his personality. She told me he was very intelligent, that he could discuss, you know, Jean-Paul Sartre and he could discuss various aspects of philosophy and engineering and that he had learned how to shoot with a bow and arrow left handed, and he was very fit as well as very hard-working, and a good actor,” Saif said, adding that she always talked of him as ‘being a really remarkable person’.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/boll...to-the-dead/story-VxZHecHJWBdMzJTg5YlUtL.html
 
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Saif Ali Khan is angry about the film industry’s sudden outpouring of love for Sushant Singh Rajput after his death on Sunday. He feels that a day of silence would be more appropriate than the ‘hypocrisy’ of pretending to care.

In an interview with The Times of India, Saif called the news of Sushant’s death ‘just awful’, but hit out at those ‘talking rubbish’ in the wake of the tragedy. “There are so many people who’ve made comments so quickly. And it just seems to me that people are somewhere gaining some mileage from this poor fellow’s tragedy, you know, whether it’s to show compassion or to show interest or to show some political stance. So many people are talking rubbish in this nonstop kind of barrage on social media and it’s just embarrassing, really, I think,” he said.

“Out of respect for him, for Sushant’s tragedy, maybe a day of silence or introspection would be a little more becoming than this outpouring of love – an outpouring of love from people who obviously didn’t care about him and people who famously don’t care about anybody else,” he said.

Saif said that the film industry was famously competitive and the pretense of caring for Sushant was an ‘insult’ to him. “I mean, we don’t care about anybody. You know, it’s a very cutthroat line of work. But to pretend that you do care is like the ultimate hypocrisy and I think that’s an insult to the dead, you know, it’s an insult to the soul that’s gone,” he said.

The sudden display of love for Sushant is ‘a little much to digest’ for Saif, who admitted that though ‘nobody really cares in this town’, they want to come across as empathetic to their fans. He added that people writing lengthy social media posts are unlikely to show the same level of love and compassion in real life.

“We live in an age where people write 10 lines for you on Twitter and will walk past you on the street - won’t even touch you or shake your hand. You know, you get wished for your birthday, but people don’t actually call you. There’s no contact,” he said.

There has been talk of Sushant being failed by bigwigs of the film industry. Filmmaker Shekhar Kapur had tweeted after his demise: “I knew the pain you were going through. I knew the story of the people that let you down so bad that you would weep on my shoulder…” Kangana Ranaut shared an angry video, in which she said that the late actor was not given his due as he was an outsider, and was constantly told that he was ‘worthless’.

However, Saif does not completely agree with this. “People are failing people constantly. Everyone talking about him, even those saying who failed you or didn’t fail you is, I think, somewhat exploiting his name. To take any stand at the moment, apart from just sorrow, and just saying that I’m really sad that he had no way out except this - any other comment is somewhere manipulating the situation, I feel. You have come across this as an opportunity to take a shot at somebody, and you’re taking a shot,” he said.

When asked about Bollywood camps having an impact on an actor’s career, Saif said, “These are the wrong comments to make now. I mean, you can say, listen, it’s just really bad, what happened. It’s really sad that this is the only way he could see out. But to blame anybody or to you know, draw these camps out, this is pathetic. I think it’s a function of lockdown plus social media. And it’s sad that film people can’t think beyond films. We will all assume that this terrible thing happened to him because of his films. There is more to life. Maybe he was upset about other things in his life. Maybe it was a personal reason. Maybe it’s nothing to do with films. If you can’t see beyond that, you will put everything on that – the movies you do.”

Saif’s daughter Sara Ali Khan, who made her Bollywood debut opposite Sushant in Kedarnath, was shocked and ‘very, very, very upset’ by the news. “She liked him very much. She was quite impressed with certain aspects of his personality. She told me he was very intelligent, that he could discuss, you know, Jean-Paul Sartre and he could discuss various aspects of philosophy and engineering and that he had learned how to shoot with a bow and arrow left handed, and he was very fit as well as very hard-working, and a good actor,” Saif said, adding that she always talked of him as ‘being a really remarkable person’.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/boll...to-the-dead/story-VxZHecHJWBdMzJTg5YlUtL.html

Thats some brutal honesty from Saif there.
 
Thats some brutal honesty from Saif there.

He tells people to stay quiet and then does an entire interview about the lad? Hypocrite. Wasn't he the one supporting nepotism and should nepotism rocks slogans and gave an entire interview about genetics and eugenics supporting the whole nepotism culture?
 
He tells people to stay quiet and then does an entire interview about the lad? Hypocrite. Wasn't he the one supporting nepotism and should nepotism rocks slogans and gave an entire interview about genetics and eugenics supporting the whole nepotism culture?

I get where you are coming from but I dont think what he spoke about was Sushant or his death rather about how Bollywood people are reacting to the news and their hypocritical shower of 'love' for him suddenly when really nothing such as that exists.
He is a supporter of nepotism though, he is a product of that as is his wife and daughter.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Such perfection.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SushantSinghRajput?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SushantSinghRajput</a> & MS Dhoni <a href="https://t.co/73UekTHdKW">pic.twitter.com/73UekTHdKW</a></p>— Sarang Bhalerao (@bhaleraosarang) <a href="https://twitter.com/bhaleraosarang/status/1272186594640883712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He loved me so much...I will miss him so much. His energy, enthusiasm and his full happy smile. May Allah bless his soul and my condolences to his near and dear ones. This is extremely sad....and so shocking!! <a href="https://t.co/skIhYEQxeO">pic.twitter.com/skIhYEQxeO</a></p>— Shah Rukh Khan (@iamsrk) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamsrk/status/1272127567944794113?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

"He loved me so much"?

Unlike that dingbat Karan Johar and the prima donna Alia Bhatt SRK gets off a little easy all said and done because he was also an outsider to begin with. Until getting hand in glove with Johar and his ilk.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He loved me so much...I will miss him so much. His energy, enthusiasm and his full happy smile. May Allah bless his soul and my condolences to his near and dear ones. This is extremely sad....and so shocking!! <a href="https://t.co/skIhYEQxeO">pic.twitter.com/skIhYEQxeO</a></p>— Shah Rukh Khan (@iamsrk) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamsrk/status/1272127567944794113?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

"He loved me so much"?

Unlike that dingbat Karan Johar and the prima donna Alia Bhatt SRK gets off a little easy all said and done because he was also an outsider to begin with. Until getting hand in glove with Johar and his ilk.

Quite cringe worthy caption that from SRK bro.
 
This is really tragic and thoughts should be with his family at this time, there are all sorts of allegations as to how it and why it happened I suppose only time will tell, there is definitely a form of bullying that exists in Bollywood, its evident for us to see, who knows what else happens in the background.
 
A lesson for all outsiders who want to become actors/actresses in Bollywood. Think before you join it. It is one of the worst industry to get into if you have no connections or godfather. I have seen so many youngsters wasting their lives now because of bollywood. 90% of these actors don't give a damn about who dies/lives.
Even if you somehow become an actor and give a hit movie, there are more chances of you losing work and getting depressed than giving back to back hit movies.

It is better to educate yourself, work for someone else or become self employed and stay away from this fakewood. :inti
 
Seems that this incident has been a bit of a wake-up call for Bollywood and its big names.

Lots of finger-pointing at each other in what appears to be a pretty ugly industry.
 
A lesson for all outsiders who want to become actors/actresses in Bollywood. Think before you join it. It is one of the worst industry to get into if you have no connections or godfather. I have seen so many youngsters wasting their lives now because of bollywood. 90% of these actors don't give a damn about who dies/lives.
Even if you somehow become an actor and give a hit movie, there are more chances of you losing work and getting depressed than giving back to back hit movies.

It is better to educate yourself, work for someone else or become self employed and stay away from this fakewood. :inti

I don't buy this about no connections or god fathers, lots of successful actors and actresses are those from outside the industry and there are numerous failures who came with connections

Successful or still surviving non industry-non connection Bollywood Stars

Shahrukh Khan
Preity Zinta
Aishwarya Rai
Priyanka Chopra
Siddharth Malhotra
John Abraham
Arjun Rampal

Unsuccesful Film Actors with Godfathers and Connections

Imran Khan
Abhsihek Bachchan
Harman Baweja
Zayed Khan
Fardeen Khan
Tushar Kapoor
Vivek Oberoi (Still struggling)

Ultimately its all about your acting performances, your box office results, your connection with the youth, fan following

Someone like John Abraham who has not delivered a single solo hit smartly diversified to modelling, getting into fitness, owning a sports team and having a clean image and some producers still picked him

I think its also about the quality of your net working. There is a reason why these Bollywood actors and actresses make sure that they attend all Bollywood parties, events because that is the only way you can keep in touch with big name directors, producers, actors to the point where they will pick you. It works the same way in the Corporate World in the west where a lot of hiring is done on a referral basis. If you stay stuck at home and don't meet people, things won't change.

Maybe youngsters or anyone coming into the industry need counseling, guidance on the challenges, highs and lows and how they should be expected to deal with it.
 
I don't buy this about no connections or god fathers, lots of successful actors and actresses are those from outside the industry and there are numerous failures who came with connections

Successful or still surviving non industry-non connection Bollywood Stars

Shahrukh Khan
Preity Zinta
Aishwarya Rai
Priyanka Chopra
Siddharth Malhotra
John Abraham
Arjun Rampal

Unsuccesful Film Actors with Godfathers and Connections

Imran Khan
Abhsihek Bachchan
Harman Baweja
Zayed Khan
Fardeen Khan
Tushar Kapoor
Vivek Oberoi (Still struggling)

Ultimately its all about your acting performances, your box office results, your connection with the youth, fan following

Someone like John Abraham who has not delivered a single solo hit smartly diversified to modelling, getting into fitness, owning a sports team and having a clean image and some producers still picked him

I think its also about the quality of your net working. There is a reason why these Bollywood actors and actresses make sure that they attend all Bollywood parties, events because that is the only way you can keep in touch with big name directors, producers, actors to the point where they will pick you. It works the same way in the Corporate World in the west where a lot of hiring is done on a referral basis. If you stay stuck at home and don't meet people, things won't change.

Maybe youngsters or anyone coming into the industry need counseling, guidance on the challenges, highs and lows and how they should be expected to deal with it.

You really are naive if you believe even the names you mentioned don’t have powerful backers, even at the time of their first film.

99% of the time in any industry, it comes down to either “I don’t know” or “I don’t like” that guy.
 
A lesson for all outsiders who want to become actors/actresses in Bollywood. Think before you join it. It is one of the worst industry to get into if you have no connections or godfather. I have seen so many youngsters wasting their lives now because of bollywood. 90% of these actors don't give a damn about who dies/lives.
Even if you somehow become an actor and give a hit movie, there are more chances of you losing work and getting depressed than giving back to back hit movies.

It is better to educate yourself, work for someone else or become self employed and stay away from this fakewood. :inti

The ceiling is being broken, Karan Johar was smart he associated himself with Akki and Bahubali in time to get commercial success.

Sunny Deol and his son flopped like nothing before, UTV had helped with this but they sold it off to Disney for a huge price and now they are back(RSVP), they have already called out Trade Analysts on lying about Yash Raj's fake BO collections.
 
I don't buy this about no connections or god fathers, lots of successful actors and actresses are those from outside the industry and there are numerous failures who came with connections

Successful or still surviving non industry-non connection Bollywood Stars

Shahrukh Khan
Preity Zinta
Aishwarya Rai
Priyanka Chopra
Siddharth Malhotra
John Abraham
Arjun Rampal

Unsuccesful Film Actors with Godfathers and Connections

Imran Khan
Abhsihek Bachchan
Harman Baweja
Zayed Khan
Fardeen Khan
Tushar Kapoor
Vivek Oberoi (Still struggling)

Ultimately its all about your acting performances, your box office results, your connection with the youth, fan following

Someone like John Abraham who has not delivered a single solo hit smartly diversified to modelling, getting into fitness, owning a sports team and having a clean image and some producers still picked him

I think its also about the quality of your net working. There is a reason why these Bollywood actors and actresses make sure that they attend all Bollywood parties, events because that is the only way you can keep in touch with big name directors, producers, actors to the point where they will pick you. It works the same way in the Corporate World in the west where a lot of hiring is done on a referral basis. If you stay stuck at home and don't meet people, things won't change.

Maybe youngsters or anyone coming into the industry need counseling, guidance on the challenges, highs and lows and how they should be expected to deal with it.

Obviously there will be exceptions but for every successful outsider you will find 1000 unsuccessful outsiders. If you don't believe me just visit streets of Mumbai. Even today you will find talented actors sleeping at footpath or living in slums. They all came to Mumbai to become actors but couldn't. This is a very dark industry. Success rate for an outsider is 2-3% here. Smart ones like Sunil Shetty, Ronit Roy do other businesses side by side. Others like Inder Kumar, Sushant, Nafisa Joseph, Kushal Punjabi choose to end their life.
 
Diverting a little but Rajkumar was outstanding in that film as well. Another outsider who has had to do a lot of small roles and only now is getting his due.

Absolutely and so was Amit Sadh actually.

Now that SSR is gone I feel most worried for Rajkumar. Talent like that deserves acknowledgement and success.

What a lovely film!!
 
[MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION] Look at this guy Savi Sidhu for example. He acted in some movies like Patiala House, D-Day but started working as a security guard after he stopped getting movies. One thing I liked about him is his down to earth nature and the way he kept fighting. I am not sure what he is doing currently but this video is 1 year old. There are thousands of actors like him but not all of them can survive like this guy.

 
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I don't buy this about no connections or god fathers, lots of successful actors and actresses are those from outside the industry and there are numerous failures who came with connections

Successful or still surviving non industry-non connection Bollywood Stars

Shahrukh Khan
Preity Zinta
Aishwarya Rai
Priyanka Chopra
Siddharth Malhotra
John Abraham
Arjun Rampal

Unsuccesful Film Actors with Godfathers and Connections

Imran Khan
Abhsihek Bachchan
Harman Baweja
Zayed Khan
Fardeen Khan
Tushar Kapoor
Vivek Oberoi (Still struggling)

Ultimately its all about your acting performances, your box office results, your connection with the youth, fan following

Someone like John Abraham who has not delivered a single solo hit smartly diversified to modelling, getting into fitness, owning a sports team and having a clean image and some producers still picked him

I think its also about the quality of your net working. There is a reason why these Bollywood actors and actresses make sure that they attend all Bollywood parties, events because that is the only way you can keep in touch with big name directors, producers, actors to the point where they will pick you. It works the same way in the Corporate World in the west where a lot of hiring is done on a referral basis. If you stay stuck at home and don't meet people, things won't change.

Maybe youngsters or anyone coming into the industry need counseling, guidance on the challenges, highs and lows and how they should be expected to deal with it.

First of all women are objectified in showbusiness and can get a role based off looks and their body, also the casting couch is rife in Bollywood as well as Hollywood so a lot of actresses get their break by "dating" directors and producers. Also A lot of those male "outsiders" in Bollywood had the patronage of established Bollywood stars like Shahrukh Khan had Yash Raj and later became buddies with Karan Johar and Arjun Rampal. Also some male actors and models are also victims of the casting couch, there are strong rumors of Shahrukh Khan being involved with Karan Johar and Rampal, they even joke about to make it seem like it's "fake news". You have powerful men in show business who exploit both men and women in exchange for "success".
 
Obviously there will be exceptions but for every successful outsider you will find 1000 unsuccessful outsiders. If you don't believe me just visit streets of Mumbai. Even today you will find talented actors sleeping at footpath or living in slums. They all came to Mumbai to become actors but couldn't. This is a very dark industry. Success rate for an outsider is 2-3% here. Smart ones like Sunil Shetty, Ronit Roy do other businesses side by side. Others like Inder Kumar, Sushant, Nafisa Joseph, Kushal Punjabi choose to end their life.

These realities apply to any entertainment industry in the world. Showbiz success chances are 1 in a million, its like a lottery ticket where the payoff is paycheques in crores per film, tv series. Hollywood i imagine must be equally tougher.

I realistically know my chances of getting into Bollywood or Hollywood are impossible. People should not have unrealistic expectations as in this industry there are winners and loosers.
 
You really are naive if you believe even the names you mentioned don’t have powerful backers, even at the time of their first film.

99% of the time in any industry, it comes down to either “I don’t know” or “I don’t like” that guy.

These people i mentioned did not know anyone or have any backer when they came into the industry. Once they got their breaks and appeared in a few films, then you can't hold it against them for networking and building relationships with the top actors, directors, producers as this is their field and they know relationships will get them work.
 
I think a lot of people are missing the point here.

Sushasnth’s death has nothing to do with the Bollywood industry. What he probably lacked in his life was a soul mate, a partner, who would have helped him go through the lows of his life.

In a lot of careers you have lows. Sports, entertainment, business..you just need someone to be beside you. Its silly to think that a colleague, a fellow businessman or a fellow sports teammate would come to you to console you. It has got to be your life partner or your own inner self or a close family member. Dont blame the industry, oh dont!
 
I think a lot of people are missing the point here.

Sushasnth’s death has nothing to do with the Bollywood industry. What he probably lacked in his life was a soul mate, a partner, who would have helped him go through the lows of his life.

In a lot of careers you have lows. Sports, entertainment, business..you just need someone to be beside you. Its silly to think that a colleague, a fellow businessman or a fellow sports teammate would come to you to console you. It has got to be your life partner or your own inner self or a close family member. Dont blame the industry, oh dont!

I am reading that his ex girlfriend getting engaged drove him through the edge, he lost his manager a few days ago someone he was close too, 6 films of his got shelved in the last 6 months and then you have the COVID-19 lockdown and the uncertainty associated with it. If only he had someone watching over him when all these things piled up over him

Tyson Fury's mental state was such in 2016-17 that the family doctor told his family that he was a suicide risk and not to leave him alone for a second
 
I am reading that his ex girlfriend getting engaged drove him through the edge, he lost his manager a few days ago someone he was close too, 6 films of his got shelved in the last 6 months and then you have the COVID-19 lockdown and the uncertainty associated with it. If only he had someone watching over him when all these things piled up over him

Tyson Fury's mental state was such in 2016-17 that the family doctor told his family that he was a suicide risk and not to leave him alone for a second

Yeah it sounds like a lot happened in his life. Its a failure of circumstances really and the people really close to him would be feeling like living in a hell. You think about it, some people are calling him a coward. How stupid! What is more brave a thing to do than to take ones own life. Its a sin of course. Only if Sushant had used this level of bravery to achieve some other feat than to kill himself.
 
Yeah it sounds like a lot happened in his life. Its a failure of circumstances really and the people really close to him would be feeling like living in a hell. You think about it, some people are calling him a coward. How stupid! What is more brave a thing to do than to take ones own life. Its a sin of course. Only if Sushant had used this level of bravery to achieve some other feat than to kill himself.

The crazy thing is it takes one split moment of madness to take your own life, if someone had been with him and just given him 5 minutes of hope, he might have momentarily come out of that depressed frame of mind and been able to get the energy needed to tackle whatever he was facing. All his loved ones, friends must be remorseful that they weren't with him in his dark moments
 
The crazy thing is it takes one split moment of madness to take your own life, if someone had been with him and just given him 5 minutes of hope, he might have momentarily come out of that depressed frame of mind and been able to get the energy needed to tackle whatever he was facing. All his loved ones, friends must be remorseful that they weren't with him in his dark moments
He must have been thinking or planning about it for a while though.

I mean for argument’s sake, I wanted to hang myself, I wouldnt even know where to start. For a start you dont have ceiling fans in England.

Jokes aside you need a proper thought process to kill yourself in a way that you actually kill yourself. I am pretty sure Sushant would have been carrying this thought of killing himself inside him for a while,,
 
Looks like Karan Johar didn’t like him and had it in for him. Would be surprised to see him wriggle out of this one.
 
Tbf, Karan Johar has not been a snake to Pakistanis and the Pakistani audience that appreciates Bollywood movies, so I don’t dislike him as much, but the stuff that is doing rounds on social media is quite enraging to see.
 
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